20/20 build

**killa** · 11-22-2006 05:17 AM

Ok, so i finally got around to gather most of the parts for that Audi build i told you guys about.

Quick Rundown:

1997 Audi A4 Quattro 5 speed with 100k miles on the clock.

Now for the stuff:

Goodies:
OBD1 forged ABA crank
Scat Rods
83mm 9.25:1 Wiseco pistons
Brand new AEB Head

Note: Boxer will not be involved in assembling motor

Also:

And the rest of the OEM stuff....

Thought I'd share, will try to get this together asap but will be hard since i'll have to deal with the 16vT's upcoming tuning and maintnance as well as working on two other Big turbo vw's (And I mean Big

)

Wrench on

Paul

**bOOOOstedAudi** · 11-22-2006 05:23 AM

that is insane man. good luck. cant wait till its done

**audimanj** · 11-22-2006 05:30 AM

samething that im piecing together but the only thing I have is the Obd-1 crank :(. What turbo are you going to run? Also could you send me the specs of those pistons and where you got them.

**killa** · 11-22-2006 05:34 AM

Originally posted by audimanj
samething that im piecing together but the only thing I have is the Obd-1 crank :(. What turbo are you going to run? Also could you send me the specs of those pistons and where you got them.

Thanks for the kind words boostedaudi

Got the pistons from here

83mm 9.25:1 c/r

Turbo will is a GT30R

**audimanj** · 11-22-2006 05:44 AM

cant wait to hear about this when it is all said and done.

**pipe7284** · 11-22-2006 05:49 AM

wwwoooowwww!!!! i`ll be thinking about that project until you post the outcome if it.

**k0mpresd** · 11-22-2006 05:55 AM

im so confused

pitguy? paul? killa?

whats the relation here....?

**killa** · 11-22-2006 06:06 AM

Originally posted by k0mpresd
im so confused

pitguy? paul? killa?

whats the relation here....?

Pitguy aka Ricky has the 2L 20v corrado, he hosted some of the pics.

This is my car/project Ian. I'd rather finish this quick so we can finish Ricky's corrado too, the guy's just too lazy to put together some wires lol

**Don Supreme** · 11-22-2006 06:49 AM

^ Where is the 9a IM shaft in those pictures? Don't you need that?

**k0mpresd** · 11-22-2006 07:00 AM

Originally posted by killa
Pitguy aka Ricky has the 2L 20v corrado, he hosted some of the pics.

This is my car/project Ian. I'd rather finish this quick so we can finish Ricky's corrado too, the guy's just too lazy to put together some wires lol

ohh..ok..makes a little more sense now

**xr4tic** · 11-22-2006 07:20 AM

ABA or AEB block? 9A IM shaft isn't needed with AEB. *Ignore this, I'm on crack again*

Is that ATP manifold? did you have the wastegate tube welded to it?

**audimanj** · 11-22-2006 08:56 AM

I was told that a 16v 2.0L im shaft was needed along with an oil pump gear so that the #4 rod doesnt hit the larger 1.8 oil pump drive gear

**badassb5** · 11-22-2006 09:17 AM

^^^ this is what i understood from the old 2.0 thread as well.

**yusoslo** · 11-22-2006 09:22 AM

please dont tell me that spec clutch is an ebay one. Those are terrible. Do it right the first time and get an ACT clutch. I learned once not to buy a cheap clutch...or anything that is hard to change out.

**Aliel** · 11-22-2006 10:20 AM

Nice to see its coming along Paul. Does that mean you have the price list for the oem motor parts?

Can't wait for you to get done with this project so you can start with the new one

**94jedi** · 11-22-2006 10:25 AM

Originally posted by audimanj
I was told that a 16v 2.0L im shaft was needed along with an oil pump gear so that the #4 rod doesnt hit the larger 1.8 oil pump drive gear

yep, wtf? Same here? I thought OBD1 ABA crank + AEB Block = 9a IM???

Unless his custom pistons/rods make up for that.

Maybe that was only if you planned to use the stock pistons. Damn, need to search again.

**k0mpresd** · 11-22-2006 10:28 AM

guys...im sure paul has is ish in order

if it takes a 9a shaft im sure he has/will get one

and im sure he'll chime in and clear up the confusion

**badassb5** · 11-22-2006 10:52 AM

killa - what head gasket is that? it appears to be a little different than other OEM ones I have seen?

**xr4tic** · 11-22-2006 11:01 AM

Oops, guess I stand corrected :)

**audimanj** · 11-22-2006 11:13 AM

Originally posted by xr4tic
Oops, guess I stand corrected :)

dont scare me like that !!!! I just got the IM shaft and oil pump gear Yesterday.

**Eurotuned_A4** · 11-22-2006 12:21 PM

that SPEc wont last long. from what i experienced and from the info i gathered none of them do, but good luck.

looks like a great project. im looking forward to seeing the numbers the car will put down

**sean1.8t** · 11-22-2006 02:13 PM

looks like its going to be a beast man

hopefully next winter my car will be parked for this exact same thing. and i mean exact, it's kinda wierd actually

**Saturnine** · 11-22-2006 02:22 PM

These types of build threads are the best

Rock on!

**jmatto** · 11-22-2006 02:26 PM

Originally posted by killa
Pitguy aka Ricky has the 2L 20v corrado, he hosted some of the pics.

This is my car/project Ian. I'd rather finish this quick so we can finish Ricky's corrado too, the guy's just too lazy to put together some wires lol

i know rick hes in the same car club as me i just bought a forged 2.0 crank from him and i have to give him money for the rods and pistons i am also doing a big turbo aeb 1.8

**killa** · 11-22-2006 07:49 PM

Originally posted by xr4tic
ABA or AEB block? 9A IM shaft isn't needed with AEB. *Ignore this, I'm on crack again*

Is that ATP manifold? did you have the wastegate tube welded to it?

Not sure about that John, I've used the 1.8 16v Intermediate shaft which is the same as an AEB on 2L bubble blocks and cylinder number 4's rod hit the oil pump drive gear. I will test them both and post pics soon.

You will need to shave the walls on the inside of the block to make the 92.8mm crank with Scat rods work. Cyl #1 has to be shaved the most, then shave the inner reinforcement of #3 and the lower reinforcement of #3. No need to shave the wall on 4th cyl wall but the piston will hit the oil squirter. Answer: Run a copper shim to move the squirter up so it'll clear the piston squirt.

I will post pics soon, digi cam ran out of batteries

Paul

**killa** · 11-22-2006 07:50 PM

Originally posted by jmatto
i know rick hes in the same car club as me i just bought a forged 2.0 crank from him and i have to give him money for the rods and pistons i am also doing a big turbo aeb 1.8

Yup, he picked up those rods about two weeks ago, it was my last set but i just got another shipment

**killa** · 11-22-2006 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Aliel
Nice to see its coming along Paul. Does that mean you have the price list for the oem motor parts?

Can't wait for you to get done with this project so you can start with the new one

I didn't forget about you, will get back to you early next week

**audimanj** · 11-23-2006 05:19 AM

I think making a list of all items used whith where you got them or product code would help greatly.

**bitterchild** · 11-23-2006 10:13 AM

ugh, not another spec puck

**SoFresh** · 11-23-2006 10:46 AM

What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!

**bitterchild** · 11-23-2006 12:09 PM

Originally posted by high_octaneRS-4
What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!

garrett gt3076r, no, tial 38mm, el log exhaust manifold

just guesses

**k0mpresd** · 11-23-2006 12:15 PM

3071 i think

doubt thats an ebay turbo

it even says "tial" on the side of it

intake mani ...are you serious?

**94jedi** · 11-23-2006 01:04 PM

Originally posted by bitterchild
just guesses

not bad for just a guess

**SoFresh** · 11-23-2006 03:59 PM

damn, bitter, youre good! ..... almost too good....

**Wizard-of-OD** · 11-23-2006 05:09 PM

Originally posted by high_octaneRS-4
What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!

e-what?
Get familiar with Boostfactory dude

Paul's car is going to be a model for alot of cool ish

**sean1.8t** · 11-23-2006 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Wizard-of-OD

Paul's car is going to be a model for alot of cool ish

this is why this is my favorite thread i have seen on here yet.. i cant wait til its done and there is a full write-up on it..

for paul and boostfactory

**AudiA4_20T** · 11-23-2006 05:46 PM

I cant wait to see how this goes also... B6 guys are eventually going to catch onto this!

**Bigjuice** · 11-23-2006 05:59 PM

Intresting project

Definately keep us posted..........

**killa** · 11-24-2006 07:28 AM

Originally posted by high_octaneRS-4
What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!

The turbo is a Genuine Garrett GT3082R aka GT30/40R with a T04S Anti-surge housing

Wastegate is a Tial 38mm and the manifold is a cast unit pretty similar to ATP's but without the fitting issues. Intake manifold will be stock for now, perhaps just an 0bd2 VR6 TB.

**killa** · 11-24-2006 07:45 AM

New info: The 4th rod will hit the 1.8 intermediate shaft but won't hit the 2liter intermediate shaft. I will post pics as soon as i get them hosted.

Problem#2, the 4th rod will not hit the 2L 16v Intermediate shaft, however, the 2L 16v oil pump drive gear will not fit in the specific bore. This will not be a problem for those using 2liter blocks that already have the bigger bore to accomudate the bigger Oil pump drive gear.

I also figured out where the bigger 92.8mm crank will hit the block and how much to shave off.
Pics will follow shortly

Paul

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