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    Ok, so i finally got around to gather most of the parts for that Audi build i told you guys about.

    Quick Rundown:

    1997 Audi A4 Quattro 5 speed with 100k miles on the clock.

    Now for the stuff:



    Goodies:
    OBD1 forged ABA crank
    Scat Rods
    83mm 9.25:1 Wiseco pistons
    Brand new AEB Head

    Note: Boxer will not be involved in assembling motor

    Also:



    And the rest of the OEM stuff....



    Thought I'd share, will try to get this together asap but will be hard since i'll have to deal with the 16vT's upcoming tuning and maintnance as well as working on two other Big turbo vw's (And I mean Big )

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    that is insane man. good luck. cant wait till its done
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    samething that im piecing together but the only thing I have is the Obd-1 crank :(. What turbo are you going to run? Also could you send me the specs of those pistons and where you got them.
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    Originally posted by audimanj
    samething that im piecing together but the only thing I have is the Obd-1 crank :(. What turbo are you going to run? Also could you send me the specs of those pistons and where you got them.
    Thanks for the kind words boostedaudi

    Got the pistons from here

    83mm 9.25:1 c/r

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    cant wait to hear about this when it is all said and done.
    >>98.5 1.8tqm<<
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    wwwoooowwww!!!! i`ll be thinking about that project until you post the outcome if it.
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    im so confused

    pitguy? paul? killa?

    whats the relation here....?
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    Originally posted by k0mpresd
    im so confused

    pitguy? paul? killa?

    whats the relation here....?

    Pitguy aka Ricky has the 2L 20v corrado, he hosted some of the pics.

    This is my car/project Ian. I'd rather finish this quick so we can finish Ricky's corrado too, the guy's just too lazy to put together some wires lol
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    ^ Where is the 9a IM shaft in those pictures? Don't you need that?

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    Originally posted by killa
    Pitguy aka Ricky has the 2L 20v corrado, he hosted some of the pics.

    This is my car/project Ian. I'd rather finish this quick so we can finish Ricky's corrado too, the guy's just too lazy to put together some wires lol
    ohh..ok..makes a little more sense now
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    ABA or AEB block? 9A IM shaft isn't needed with AEB. *Ignore this, I'm on crack again*

    Is that ATP manifold? did you have the wastegate tube welded to it?
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    I was told that a 16v 2.0L im shaft was needed along with an oil pump gear so that the #4 rod doesnt hit the larger 1.8 oil pump drive gear
    >>98.5 1.8tqm<<
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    ^^^ this is what i understood from the old 2.0 thread as well.

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    please dont tell me that spec clutch is an ebay one. Those are terrible. Do it right the first time and get an ACT clutch. I learned once not to buy a cheap clutch...or anything that is hard to change out.
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    Nice to see its coming along Paul. Does that mean you have the price list for the oem motor parts?

    Can't wait for you to get done with this project so you can start with the new one

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    Originally posted by audimanj
    I was told that a 16v 2.0L im shaft was needed along with an oil pump gear so that the #4 rod doesnt hit the larger 1.8 oil pump drive gear
    yep, wtf? Same here? I thought OBD1 ABA crank + AEB Block = 9a IM???

    Unless his custom pistons/rods make up for that.

    Maybe that was only if you planned to use the stock pistons. Damn, need to search again.
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    guys...im sure paul has is ish in order

    if it takes a 9a shaft im sure he has/will get one

    and im sure he'll chime in and clear up the confusion
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    killa - what head gasket is that? it appears to be a little different than other OEM ones I have seen?

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    Oops, guess I stand corrected :)
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    Originally posted by xr4tic
    Oops, guess I stand corrected :)
    dont scare me like that !!!! I just got the IM shaft and oil pump gear Yesterday.

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    that SPEc wont last long. from what i experienced and from the info i gathered none of them do, but good luck.

    looks like a great project. im looking forward to seeing the numbers the car will put down
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    looks like its going to be a beast man

    hopefully next winter my car will be parked for this exact same thing. and i mean exact, it's kinda wierd actually
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    Originally posted by killa
    Pitguy aka Ricky has the 2L 20v corrado, he hosted some of the pics.

    This is my car/project Ian. I'd rather finish this quick so we can finish Ricky's corrado too, the guy's just too lazy to put together some wires lol
    i know rick hes in the same car club as me i just bought a forged 2.0 crank from him and i have to give him money for the rods and pistons i am also doing a big turbo aeb 1.8

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    Originally posted by xr4tic
    ABA or AEB block? 9A IM shaft isn't needed with AEB. *Ignore this, I'm on crack again*

    Is that ATP manifold? did you have the wastegate tube welded to it?
    Not sure about that John, I've used the 1.8 16v Intermediate shaft which is the same as an AEB on 2L bubble blocks and cylinder number 4's rod hit the oil pump drive gear. I will test them both and post pics soon.

    You will need to shave the walls on the inside of the block to make the 92.8mm crank with Scat rods work. Cyl #1 has to be shaved the most, then shave the inner reinforcement of #3 and the lower reinforcement of #3. No need to shave the wall on 4th cyl wall but the piston will hit the oil squirter. Answer: Run a copper shim to move the squirter up so it'll clear the piston squirt.

    I will post pics soon, digi cam ran out of batteries

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    Originally posted by jmatto
    i know rick hes in the same car club as me i just bought a forged 2.0 crank from him and i have to give him money for the rods and pistons i am also doing a big turbo aeb 1.8
    Yup, he picked up those rods about two weeks ago, it was my last set but i just got another shipment
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    Originally posted by Aliel
    Nice to see its coming along Paul. Does that mean you have the price list for the oem motor parts?

    Can't wait for you to get done with this project so you can start with the new one
    I didn't forget about you, will get back to you early next week
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    I think making a list of all items used whith where you got them or product code would help greatly.
    >>98.5 1.8tqm<<
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    turbos, rods, pistons, clutches, etc.

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    What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!
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    Originally posted by high_octaneRS-4
    What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!
    garrett gt3076r, no, tial 38mm, el log exhaust manifold

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    3071 i think

    doubt thats an ebay turbo

    it even says "tial" on the side of it

    intake mani ...are you serious?
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    Originally posted by bitterchild
    just guesses
    not bad for just a guess
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    Originally posted by high_octaneRS-4
    What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!
    e-what?
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    Originally posted by Wizard-of-OD

    Paul's car is going to be a model for alot of cool ish

    this is why this is my favorite thread i have seen on here yet.. i cant wait til its done and there is a full write-up on it..

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    I cant wait to see how this goes also... B6 guys are eventually going to catch onto this!
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    Intresting project

    Definately keep us posted..........

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    Originally posted by high_octaneRS-4
    What brand and size turbo is that? Is that one from ebay? Also, what wastegate are you using and who made that intake manifold? Its interesting, and im interested in knowing!
    The turbo is a Genuine Garrett GT3082R aka GT30/40R with a T04S Anti-surge housing

    Wastegate is a Tial 38mm and the manifold is a cast unit pretty similar to ATP's but without the fitting issues. Intake manifold will be stock for now, perhaps just an 0bd2 VR6 TB.
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    New info: The 4th rod will hit the 1.8 intermediate shaft but won't hit the 2liter intermediate shaft. I will post pics as soon as i get them hosted.

    Problem#2, the 4th rod will not hit the 2L 16v Intermediate shaft, however, the 2L 16v oil pump drive gear will not fit in the specific bore. This will not be a problem for those using 2liter blocks that already have the bigger bore to accomudate the bigger Oil pump drive gear.

    I also figured out where the bigger 92.8mm crank will hit the block and how much to shave off.
    Pics will follow shortly
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