80k service?

**euromob** · 03-19-2013 04:06 PM

what ALL needs to be done at 80k miles?
want to keep this car running tip top.
i did a search, it doesnt bring up much besides spark plugs (already done) and control arms (going to do them soon)

**Mr-Next** · 03-19-2013 07:10 PM

Timing Belt
Idler Roller
Tensioner Roller
Hydraulic Tensioner
Relay Lever for Hydraulic Tensioner
Water Pump
Cam Seal
Crankshaft Seal
Thermostat
Thermostat O-Ring
Accessory Drive Belt
transmission fluid ATF1
Fuel filter
Fuel Pump (option)
coolant sensor and 1.5 Liter Bottle of G13 Coolant (two)

**JimmyBones** · 03-19-2013 07:56 PM

Do you have a 3.0 or 2.7T? You probably have a 3.0 but if you have a 2.7T then you need camshaft tensioner/adjuster seals and rear exhaust camshaft caps.

Automatic or manual? If Automatic than you should change the fluid, filter, pan gasket, and all the pan bolts. Manuals can get away with just a fluid change.

Either way you should get a new engine air filter, valve cover gaskets, serp belt tensioner, and change the rear diff fluid in addition to the stuff that Mr-Next mentioned. I think the fuel pump and coolant temp sensor are a bit overkill though.

**lucio_liu** · 03-19-2013 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mr-Next

Timing Belt
Idler Roller
Tensioner Roller
Hydraulic Tensioner
Relay Lever for Hydraulic Tensioner
Water Pump
Cam Seal
Crankshaft Seal
Thermostat
Thermostat O-Ring
Accessory Drive Belt
transmission fluid ATF1
Fuel filter
Fuel Pump (option)
coolant sensor and 1.5 Liter Bottle of G13 Coolant (two)

add up it would be over $2000...

**Mr-Next** · 03-19-2013 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by lucio_liu

add up it would be over $2000...

Full kit of TB Includes
Kit comes with the following:

Gates Racing High Strength Timing Belt
Idler Roller
Tensioner Roller
Hydraulic Tensioner
Relay Lever for Hydraulic Tensioner
Water Pump
Cam Seal - Two
Crankshaft Seal
Thermostat
Thermostat O-Ring
Accessory Drive Belt
1.5 Liter Bottle of G13 Coolant - Two

Link ~> http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-All_Ro...ing/ES2569851/

Transmission fluid 6 qt, filter, and gasket 300 something from VW dealer cheapest that Audi dealer. Also you can get that online.

Coolant sensor ~>
http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-All_Ro...nsor/ES264174/

fuel filter ~> http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-All_Ro...lter/ES258818/

I got mine AR done 3 days ago with all these list except injectors and fuel pump. + shop work = cost me 1200$ .

**lucio_liu** · 03-19-2013 11:15 PM

[QUOTE=Mr-Next;8552886]Full kit of TB Includes
Coolant sensor ~>
http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-All_Ro...nsor/ES264174/
QUOTE]

audi c5 a6 Coolant sensor is prone to fail? my dash coolant temp gauge was point to center. do I still need to replace it?

**Riktnr08** · 03-20-2013 02:33 PM

Tiptronic gearboxes doesn't have oil change as a service point.

**Mr-Next** · 03-20-2013 10:42 PM

[QUOTE=lucio_liu;8552990]

Originally Posted by Mr-Next

Full kit of TB Includes
Coolant sensor ~>
http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-All_Ro...nsor/ES264174/
QUOTE]

audi c5 a6 Coolant sensor is prone to fail? my dash coolant temp gauge was point to center. do I still need to replace it?

I suggest to save the time as well as you have time to work on your car its up to you but you can check on the coolant sensor if its not leaking thats fine also look at the temperature how long takes to get on normal position? if it take more than 10-12 minutes then replace it

**Mr-Next** · 03-20-2013 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Riktnr08

Tiptronic gearboxes doesn't have oil change as a service point.

what do you mean by tiptronic doesn't have oil change ?
do you know when you change the fluid of the transmission you can feel the power back to the car ? I've did that with many cars AND I do suggest to change the transmission oil at least 30K If you need your car more smooth with shifting

**4ringAR** · 03-20-2013 10:46 PM

You can change the tip fluid on low miles but its risky at high mileage. The transmission "relies" on the grit and metal in the fluid. Without the "crap" it is prone to slipping. It defies logic, but thats the way it is.

**Mr-Next** · 03-20-2013 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by 4ringAR

You can change the tip fluid on low miles but its risky at high mileage. The transmission "relies" on the grit and metal in the fluid. Without the "crap" it is prone to slipping. It defies logic, but thats the way it is.

That's what I meant. you are right

**lucio_liu** · 03-20-2013 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mr-Next

That's what I meant. you are right

Plan to change ATF soon,I am hoping 80k is not too late to change the ATF. the good side is my tranny still working smoothly.

**lucio_liu** · 03-20-2013 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=Mr-Next;8556363]

Originally Posted by lucio_liu

I suggest to save the time as well as you have time to work on your car its up to you but you can check on the coolant sensor if its not leaking thats fine also look at the temperature how long takes to get on normal position? if it take more than 10-12 minutes then replace it

not that long, in warm texas weather the gauge get on the center about 3-5 minutes.

**Mr-Next** · 03-21-2013 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=lucio_liu;8556392]

Originally Posted by Mr-Next

not that long, in warm texas weather the gauge get on the center about 3-5 minutes.

so then you don't have to change it.

Originally Posted by lucio_liu

Plan to change ATF soon,I am hoping 80k is not too late to change the ATF. the good side is my tranny still working smoothly.

The most important is the TB get that done first after you can change the ATF . make sure you have to change the filter too

**lucio_liu** · 03-21-2013 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=Mr-Next;8558381]

Originally Posted by lucio_liu

so then you don't have to change it.

The most important is the TB get that done first after you can change the ATF . make sure you have to change the filter too

thanks, yes my TB was done @68K last summer. I have ordered geniune filter and gasket from online audi dealer..

**euromob** · 03-22-2013 10:17 AM

hey im so sorry guys, i totally forgot to put what engine it is.
its the 2.8 30v engine. the car is a quattro awd.

wow @MR NEXT. that is a long list of things that needs to be done.
how hard is a timing belt and water pump to replace on this car? i can try it myself and save a thousand bucks from what it looks to be.

**euromob** · 03-22-2013 10:19 AM

also, the previous owner claims the TB and WP have been replaced at 40,000 miles because the car was not driven very often.
so i am not sure if it needs replacement yet, but you can never be too safe i guess?

**lucio_liu** · 03-22-2013 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by euromob

also, the previous owner claims the TB and WP have been replaced at 40,000 miles because the car was not driven very often.
so i am not sure if it needs replacement yet, but you can never be too safe i guess?

if previous owner kept the receipt then you can wait to 120k, otherwise no. TB break risk will be very high after 80K. And that will lead to a major engine repair.

**euromob** · 03-22-2013 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by lucio_liu

if previous owner kept the receipt then you can wait to 120k, otherwise no. TB break risk will be very high after 80K. And that will lead to a major engine repair.

i will have to go to the shop and see if they have the receipts or records. because the PO didnt give me any paperwork for anything.
it was an older couple and they seemed legit but you never know.

**Mr-Next** · 03-22-2013 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by euromob

hey im so sorry guys, i totally forgot to put what engine it is.
its the 2.8 30v engine. the car is a quattro awd.

wow @MR NEXT. that is a long list of things that needs to be done.
how hard is a timing belt and water pump to replace on this car? i can try it myself and save a thousand bucks from what it looks to be.

Well Its not really easy to work with you have to get all the stuff out this is the DIY from ECStuning With pictures.

http://bd8ba3c866c8cbc330ab-7b26c6f3...34-10-2012.pdf

I did changed mine TB , ATF , and Fuel filter only 550$

So if you know someone can get that done cheap for you. or you can do that buy yourself if you do have space enough at your house .

**Mr-Next** · 03-22-2013 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by euromob

also, the previous owner claims the TB and WP have been replaced at 40,000 miles because the car was not driven very often.
so i am not sure if it needs replacement yet, but you can never be too safe i guess?

If the car has 80K at this moment and the TB has been done on 40K then you have 35K left to change it

**Mr-Next** · 03-22-2013 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by lucio_liu

if previous owner kept the receipt then you can wait to 120k, otherwise no. TB break risk will be very high after 80K. And that will lead to a major engine repair.

The dealer suggest to change the TB after 75K, but I suggest to replace it between 80~90K . anyway I got mine changed after 73K
you can get 100K with this racing gate TB ~> http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-All_Ro...ing/ES2569851/

Its more than powerful belt

**lucio_liu** · 03-22-2013 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mr-Next

The dealer suggest to change the TB after 75K, but I suggest to replace it between 80~90K . anyway I got mine changed after 73K
you can get 100K with this racing gate TB ~> http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-All_Ro...ing/ES2569851/

Its more than powerful belt

I will try it later my was done @68k last year and next change might until 150k-160k