**NEW** 1/4 mile spreadsheet: Submit your time here

[Loe]

Hi all,

I'm going to run a spreadsheet on my google drive and link it to this original post. If you want yours submitted, please submit it in the following format below. I figured instead of digging into the 1/4 mile thread and then digging into each dragtime, this method would be easier for me to load onto the spreadsheet.

Include the following in this order:

Member name: Loe
Model: B8.5 S5
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: GIAC
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.110 (take your crank pulley and divide it by your s/c pulley)
D/A: 662
Date: 04/09/2016
Timeslip: http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/04092016_Dual_Pulley_E38_97octane_RACE.JPG
60ft: 1.xxc
330ft: 4.xxx
1/8 et: 7.xxx
1/8 mph: 97.xx
1000ft: 9.xxx
1/4 et: 11.xxx
1/4 mph: 122.xxx

Here is where you can find your pulley sizes (thank you AZ member whiped) ---> **OFFICIAL** Life Beyond Stage II the higher pulley ratio development thread (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/713242-**OFFICIAL**-Life-Beyond-Stage-II-the-higher-pulley-ratio-development-thread)

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa435/LaxerTech/pulleys_zpsfuvroxdu.jpg

**Your Timeslip must be IHRA/NHRA cert track only (or possibly any other cert track internationally to not exclude others?) in order to be placed on the list, and it must also be the full slip showing the track, date, and time**

I want to keep the list simple (For example, I only loaded my fastest time with a dual pulley, and also my fastest time for a single pulley).

Here is an example of the list, there will be pretty colors added once published on a shared google file. I'll update the times as much as I can, more than likely almost daily in the beginning and then eventually as needed (more than likely weekly) once the database becomes bigger.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/new_dragtime.JPG

**EDITED** here is a nice density altitude calculator, as well as being able to select your track, specific date, as well as a timeframe and it will automatically load the information to calculate density altitude --- > DENSITY ALTITUDE CALCULATOR (http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-altitude-calculator.php)

Here is a nice live density altitude tracker which also allows you to look at forecast data, you select your track underneath your state --- > LIVE DENSITY ALTITUDE (http://airdensityonline.com/tracks/)

Here is a nice conversion you can use to calculate how well you would run in "0" ft. D/A --- > Calculator/Conversion for a near 0 ft. density altitude run (http://www.hardtail.com/techtips/altitude.html)

***KEEP IN MIND THAT NOT ALL D/A's ARE CREATED EQUAL***

****Here is the link to the database to view****

Audi "3.0t" 1/4 Mile spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KpIl77LDxog8DcRee66nMrkBTVT0SPDa/view?usp=sharing)

Positive vendor/tuner comments are welcomed, unless they are 100% biased towards only one tune, otherwise start your own "pat yourself on the back" thread please [facepalm]

LINK TO THE OLD 1/4 mile thread here - - - > CLICK ME (https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/400241-The-Official-B8-B8-5-S4-1-4-Mile-Database)

**If you need or want this updated, please PM me if it hasn't been instead of putting up a thread reply. Signed, your neighborhood moderator...**

[bmoreS4]

Good stuff, sub'd.

[Vogz]

Member name: Vogz
Model: S4
Tran: 6MT
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Pump
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.818
D/A: -180ft
Date: 05/13/2015
Timeslip: http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/BriGuyMax/IMG_1745_zpsx5kjrdf8.jpg
60ft: 1.748
330ft: 5.128
1/8 et: 7.885
1/8 mph: 90.84
1000ft: 10.251
1/4 et: 12.245
1/4 mph: 112.62

[mrmomo313]

Thanks for putting this together Loe. Here are my two best passes (so far [:D])

Member name: mrmomo313
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: none
ECU Tune: APR v3.1
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: 100 octane
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.100
D/A: -480
Date: 11/07/2015
Timeslip: http://s1304.photobucket.com/user/msid9210/media/IMG_2231%20copy_zpskfkxawie.jpg.html
60ft: 1.686
330ft: 4.876
1/8 et: 7.511
1/8 mph: 93.36
1000ft: 9.767
1/4 et: 11.679
1/4 mph: 117.62


Member name: mrmomo313
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: none
ECU Tune: APR v3.1 + CW
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.100
D/A: +2380
Date: 06/22/2016
Timeslip: http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/msid9210/93%20passes%206-22_zpszqf836on.jpg
60ft: 1.739
330ft: 4.986
1/8 et: 7.511
1/8 mph: 91.82
1000ft: 9.951
1/4 et: 11.879
1/4 mph: 116.47

[pdqgp]

Member name: pdqgp
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR DSG
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: Pump
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: APR not sure of size
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: ?
D/A: N/A
Date: 04/29/2016
Timeslip: http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah133/PDQS4/Audi/NTR_zps3vurrul6.jpg
60ft: 1.811
330ft: 5.146
1/8 et: 7.898
1/8 mph: 89.48
1000ft: 10.247
1/4 et: 12.239
1/4 mph: 113.33


Full tank of gas and Stock Conti's at full 41psi. Run just like I would on the street.

[OnEaNgRyBuNnY]

Member name: OnEaNgRyBuNnY
Model: S4 B8.5
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR v3.1
Stage: 2
File: 93 oct
Fuel: E85/93 1:3
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.100 (take your crank pulley and divide it by your s/c pulley)
D/A: ~325
Date: 06/17/2016
Timeslip: http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/ba9454c458aef0c61008e87634c57468.jpg
60ft: 1.621
330ft: 4.786
1/8 et: 7.442
1/8 mph: 91.52
1000ft: 9.716
1/4 et: 11.646
1/4 mph: 115.70

[Loe]

everyone who posted yesterday has been added

[Moloki]

Member name: Moloki
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 1
File: Pump
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: stock
Crank Pulley + size: stock
Pulley Ratio: stock
D/A: +1148 ft
Date: 06/22/2016
Timeslip:http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/4310ca96deea66961c1c092d53d05e8a.jpg
60ft: 1.795
330ft: 5.164
1/8 et: 7.928
1/8 mph: 89.16
1000ft: 10.30
1/4 et: 12.300
1/4 mph: 112.93


No spare or tools, over a third of a tank of gas.

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[Loe]

^^ that is an incredible time for a stage 1, especially since I keep hearing other members stating that NED isn't a track for the quickest time. Way to represent the stage 1 guys!

[FLYINGLEGGS]

Member name: FLYINGLEGGS
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 1
File: 93
Fuel: 103
S/C pulley + size: Stock
Crank Pulley + size: Stock
Pulley Ratio: Stock
D/A: +520
Date: 3/17/16
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.728
330ft: 5.008
1/8 et: 7.752
1/8 mph: 90.29
1000ft: 10.090
1/4 et: 12.071
1/4 mph: 113.72http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/0fd273c88eb10b28fd8eb1cdbcd9b974.jpg



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[andthen]

Member name: andthen
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: E85 Dual Pulley
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.100
D/A: -800
Date: 1/23/16
Timeslip: http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/b518a504b037cb486bdc0341cf32aa3c.jpg
60ft: 1.6180
330ft: 4.7153
1/8 et: 7.2969
1/8 mph: 94.08
1000ft: 9.5227
1/4 et: 11.4072
1/4 mph: 119.74


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[Alessandro]

Member name: Alessandro
Model: S5
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: GIAC
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: 104
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley stock
D/A: 327
Date: 23/10/2015
Timeslip: https://1drv.ms/i/s!As64ik-3WBMcn2A5h9bF1FPCzT8E
60ft: 1.6771
330ft: 4.88
1/8 et: 7.5579
1/8 mph: 92.45
1/4 et: 11.7511
1/4 mph: 116.24

new times should be update soon once weather is good ;)

[jran76]

Member name: jran76
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: 100
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: stock
Pulley Ratio: 2.808
D/A: 560
Date: 04/08/2016
Timeslip:
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/jran76/1027BDDE-BA2A-4E2E-B2BF-A25AF162F4EE_zpstvlm6qd7.jpg (http://s570.photobucket.com/user/jran76/media/1027BDDE-BA2A-4E2E-B2BF-A25AF162F4EE_zpstvlm6qd7.jpg.html)
60ft: 1.714
330ft: 4.934
1/8 et: 7.627
1/8 mph: 90.25
1000ft: 9.927
1/4 et: 11.869
1/4 mph: 118.36

I have a slightly faster run somewhere I believe, but I've moved and can't find the slip right now....

[Dirt]

Member name: FLYINGLEGGS
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 1
File: 93
Fuel: 103
S/C pulley + size: Stock
Crank Pulley + size: Stock
Pulley Ratio: Stock
D/A: +520
Date: 3/17/16
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.728
330ft: 5.008
1/8 et: 7.752
1/8 mph: 90.29
1000ft: 10.090
1/4 et: 12.071
1/4 mph: 113.72http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/0fd273c88eb10b28fd8eb1cdbcd9b974.jpg



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My local track! Nice time, btw.

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[Loe]

everyone has been updated. Thanks guys!

[cspcrx]

is year needed the B8 vs B8.5 thing? Different gears in transmission I believe.

Admins need to sticky this.

[14S4GWM]

Admins need to sticky this.

Good luck with that, not one around for a couple hundred miles. It should be stuck though.

[shoe3k]

Member name: andthen
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: E85 Dual Pulley
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.100
D/A: -800
Date: 1/23/16
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.6180
330ft: 4.7153
1/8 et: 7.2969
1/8 mph: 94.08
1000ft: 9.5227
1/4 et: 11.4072
1/4 mph: 119.74


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Are you running 100% e85 with the EPL tune? Just wondering because Loe's time with STG2+CW is working really well with the 93/e85 blend and would think that a dedicated e85 tune/dual-pulley tune would be stronger.


Also,

LOE's times are pretty awesome. His 1/8mile traps would let him hang with some high power cars, especially given the traction advantage he would have in the real world and would probably surprise a lot of people. To give you a hint of his power compared to a stock S4 running let's say a 12.9@108mph

Comparison in the real world
1/4 mile - 117.44 ft/second vs 101.89 ft/second (stock s4) = 11+ car lengths when finishing the 1/4 mile
1/8 mile - 91.54 ft/second vs 78.80 ft/second (stock s4) = almost 6 car lengths passing the 1/8 mile

[cspcrx]

That 12.9 is generous I think very few stock S4s get out of the 13s.

[Loe]

Member name: FLYINGLEGGS

1/4 et: 12.071
1/4 mph: 113.72

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Give me a shot in driving it next time, I bet I can get it into the 11's [drive]

[Loe]

is year needed the B8 vs B8.5 thing? Different gears in transmission I believe.

Admins need to sticky this.

Do you feel its important? Has there been data to confirm if one gear set is better than the other? I can certainly add, no problem.

***EDIT*** added for all so far and edited my first post for future guys entering

[Loe]

LOE's times are pretty awesome. His 1/8mile traps would let him hang with some high power cars, especially given the traction advantage he would have in the real world and would probably surprise a lot of people. To give you a hint of his power compared to a stock S4 running let's say a 12.9@108mph

Comparison in the real world
1/4 mile - 117.44 ft/second vs 101.89 ft/second (stock s4) = 11+ car lengths when finishing the 1/4 mile
1/8 mile - 91.54 ft/second vs 78.80 ft/second (stock s4) = almost 6 car lengths passing the 1/8 mile

To put things into perspective, have no problem running neck-to-beck with a JB4 F10 M5 from a low speed roll to 100-110mph, the torque and the ability to put it down is very nice indeed [up] They start to slowly walk away after that because of their superior HP and long gears though.

[cspcrx]

Thanks Loe and thanks for taking this on.

Now for the most dumb question, where is the list? I see the link to the SC size file.
If its obvious I am blaming the Polish side of the family!

[Loe]

I went ahead and edited my original post to include a viewable link. I'll keep updating it and the link as we go. Lets keep it going and get more entered from across the board, unitronic/epl/giac/solo/034/apr/CW

[613B6]

Member name: 613B6
Model: B8S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: Pump Gas
Fuel: 94
S/C pulley + size: CTS 57.02mm
Crank Pulley + size: Stock
Pulley Ratio: 2.844
D/A: 145
Date: 04/23/2016
Timeslip: http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/ELSpool/Car%20Related/IMG_5058_zpstd5fp1vy.jpg
60ft: 1.693
330ft: 5.161
1/8 et: 7.586
1/8 mph: 91.60
1000ft: 0.0
1/4 et: 11.819
1/4 mph: 116.75

[mrmomo313]

I went ahead and edited my original post to include a viewable link. I'll keep updating it and the link as we go. Lets keep it going and get more entered from across the board, unitronic/epl/giac/solo/034/apr/CW

I ran 100 octane on the apr 100 map for the 11.6 pass. Please update when you have a chance

[OnEaNgRyBuNnY]

To put things into perspective, have no problem running neck-to-beck with a JB4 F10 M5 from a low speed roll to 100-110mph, the torque and the ability to put it down is very nice indeed [up] They start to slowly walk away after that because of their superior HP and long gears though.

I was just plucking through some BMW info on the n54/55 engines and stock turbo, bolt-on performance figures. I'm surprised no one made mention before that, as demonstrated by my dyno and times, we have significantly surpassed what they can do with a like level of modification [evilsmile]

~400rwhp with e85 and meth tuned vs ~400awp on 93 oct tune (pre-cw)
~11.7x @116.xx vs [email protected]

However, the power curve is entirely different...


Thanks Loe and thanks for taking this on.

Absolutely! This is a significant improvement over the last 1/4 mile thread. Thanks again, Loe.

[shoe3k]

I was just plucking through some BMW info on the n54/55 engines and stock turbo, bolt-on performance figures. I'm surprised no one made mention before that, as demonstrated by my dyno and times, we have significantly surpassed what they can do with a like level of modification [evilsmile]

~400rwhp with e85 and meth tuned vs ~400awp on 93 oct tune (pre-cw)
~11.7x @116.xx vs [email protected]

However, the power curve is entirely different...



Absolutely! This is a significant improvement over the last 1/4 mile thread. Thanks again, Loe.
Going through some of their dyno sheets I noticed that a lot of their runs are done with e85 on dynojets. Those results don't seem to reflect what I have run in the real world with JB4 tuned n55 motors on "93 octane or e85 blend".

[infinkc]

Member name: infinkc
Model: B8 S4
Tran: 6MT
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: 100
Fuel: 91/E85/Meth
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18
Pulley Ratio: 2.808
D/A: 321
Date: 03/11/2015
Timeslip: http://oi62.tinypic.com/e5mstu.jpg
60ft: 1.743
330ft: 5.103
1/8 et: 7.876
1/8 mph: 88.73
1000ft: 10.254
1/4 et: 12.263
1/4 mph: 113.43

[OnEaNgRyBuNnY]

Going through some of their dyno sheets I noticed that a lot of their runs are done with e85 on dynojets. Those results don't seem to reflect what I have run in the real world with JB4 tuned n55 motors on "93 octane or e85 blend".

What have you seen and experienced?


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[Loe]

Thanks all, everyone will be updated shortly

[BlownOne]

Can't find my 12.31 slip posted but I should have it in my cabinet so I will post it when I find it. In the mean time I'll give you some more numbers to crunch brotha lol
Member name: BlownOne
Model: B8 S4
Tran: Dsg
TCU Tune: 034
ECU Tune: APR034
Stage: 1
File: 91
Fuel: 91/E85
S/C pulley + size: Stock
Crank Pulley + size: Stock
Pulley Ratio: Stock
D/A: +398
Date: 02/27/2016
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.730
330ft: 5.137
1/8 et: 7.933
1/8 mph: 87.99
1000ft: 10.328
1/4 et: 12.342
1/4 mph: 111.57

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[Loe]

all items have now been updated. Thank you all for contributing to this!

[xpoweruk]

Member name: xpoweruk
Model: B8 S4
Tran: 6MT
TCU Tune: NA
ECU Tune: REVO
Stage: 1+
File: 100RON
Fuel: 99RON/Ethanol
S/C pulley + size: REVO 57.65
Crank Pulley + size:OE 162.18
Pulley Ratio: 2.813
D/A: 1,389
Date: 03/19/2016
Timeslip: http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h128/shroonie29/WP_20160319_004.jpg
60ft: 1.97
330ft: 5.3147
1/8 et: 8.0194
1/8 mph: 92.34
1000ft: NA
1/4 et: 12.266
1/4 mph: 116.86

[Loe]

updated!

xpoweruk, that's strong trap for a stage 2 6MT!

[xpoweruk]

updated!

xpoweruk, that's strong trap for a stage 2 6MT!

Cheers Loe.
It was a shame it was a wet morning with poor track condition once it dried off.
Traction was a mare (as can be seen with my 60ft) I'm hoping to get to the strip again later this year (fingers crossed).got uprated cooling now too :)

@Loe I'm out of place on the chart ;) & my pulley size (crank) is wrong should be 2 spots higher [=(]

[Loe]

Corrected, forgot to sort after adding the last few actually.

[xpoweruk]

[up][drive] Cheers Loe

[BlownOne]

Member name: BlownOne
Model: B8 S4
Tran: Dsg
TCU Tune: 034
ECU Tune: 034
Stage: 2
File: 100 octane
Fuel: 91/e85 blend
S/C pulley + size: 034 57.xx
Crank Pulley + size:OE 162.18
Pulley Ratio: 2.xx
D/A: 1,771
Date: 07/17/2016
Timeslip: Pictured
60ft: 1.702
330ft: 4.934
1/8 et: xx
1/8 mph: xx
1000ft: 9.906
1/4 et: 11.840
1/4 mph: 118.09
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[BlownOne]

Went to a track rental at sac raceway today and had a blast!! Laid down some great times consistently for a stage2 car in the heat without ideal da's. Really happy and fairly sure I just set a record with the best pass of the day which I posted. Can't wait to get my lower pulley and hx put on, get retuned and then we can see what she will really do!!😎
Big thanks to 034 Motorsports for the awesome tuning...without them, this wouldn't be possible.

[Loe]

Time added! That is a very strong trap in 1,7xx D/A's. In lower D/A's, there is the potential to be right up near me (119.69mph) and pete (120.03mph) with our GIAC stage II files! 034 again comes barreling out of the box with traps to reflect a strong tune, even in not-so-ideal D/A's.

....now, time to work on that 60ft to lower your time! [:p]

I'm also going to just add everyone's time, whoever texts me it (s4matty) or whoever posts in here, regardless so that ALL times can be on the database for others to review

[BlownOne]

Time added! That is a very strong trap in 1,7xx D/A's. In lower D/A's, there is the potential to be right up near me (119.69mph) and pete (120.03mph) with our GIAC stage II files! 034 again comes barreling out of the box with traps to reflect a strong tune, even in not-so-ideal D/A's.

....now, time to work on that 60ft to lower your time! [:p]

I'm also going to just add everyone's time, whoever texts me it (s4matty) or whoever posts in here, regardless so that ALL times can be on the database for others to review
Thanks Loe! Yea the tune is really good even with the not so ideal da and stock hx is still in the car. 1.7's were about as good as it got for anyone with the track prep that day, but I didn't play with tire pressure. I just ran as is (35psi cold) which was probably close to 40psi hot since I didn't think any et records would be set with the condiditons.

[hckymstr19]

Member name: Hckymstr19
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: CTS 57.02mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.844
D/A: 3296
Date: 08/05/2016
Timeslip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihy04zxjz10ldl4/20160805_233932.jpg?dl=0
60ft: 1.712
330ft: 5.081
1/8 et: 7.893
1/8 mph: 87.02
1000ft: 10.312
1/4 et: 12.361
1/4 mph: 108.56

[Low Flyer]

That 12.9 is generous I think very few stock S4s get out of the 13s.

I ran a [email protected] stock, I will submit the slip

[Low Flyer]

That 12.9 is generous I think very few stock S4s get out of the 13s.

I ran a [email protected] stock, I will submit the slip

Sorry phone double submitted

[OnEaNgRyBuNnY]

I ran a [email protected] stock, I will submit the slip

Sorry phone double submitted

I did as well, but to be fair, they said few. I AM curious how many do.


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[Hofahome]

Thought I would share this so people could use it to take DA out of the equation when comparing times.

http://www.hardtail.com/techtips/altitude.html

[Loe]

Thought I would share this so people could use it to take DA out of the equation when comparing times.

http://www.hardtail.com/techtips/altitude.html

This link almost matches the spreadsheet of my own times showing that for every approx. 700ft, you gain/drop about 1 tenth, and gain approx. 8 tenths of a mph (or apparently more according to the conversion though)

The link corresponds to what I predicted I would have ran in near zero D/A when i ran my [email protected] in almost 2900 D/A's on the 179mm crank with the addition of my coldfront [email protected].

Way cool!

Also, gr8 to see another EPL time to be added to the list (a couple posts above), ill add it this evening.

[xpoweruk]

Wow,that would make my speed 118.5mph [drool]

[Loe]

I added all times.

I also added something that may be fun, I went ahead and did a conversion based on the calculator posted above for the E.T./mph for 0 ft. density altitudes to kind of "level" the playing field. Of course, it's not going to be 100% accurate as the hotter it is outside, the higher your IAT's will be when comparing apples-to-apples when running on a colder day. However, it is an interesting thing to gauge to see what you can possible run in ideal conditions.

[xpoweruk]

Very interesting to see the corrected results.I feel confident I can get into the 11's as I know how slippy it was when I ran (good old England lol )

[hckymstr19]

Member name: Hckymstr19
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: CTS 57.02mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.844
D/A: 2074
Date: 08/26/2016
Timeslip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsf5nfyegilcakc/20160827_092546.jpg?dl=0
60ft: 1.690
330ft: 4.975
1/8 et: 7. 719
1/8 mph: 88.78
1000ft: 10.088
1/4 et: 12.087
1/4 mph: 111.45

[Loe]

Great time! I'll get you added this week. Glad to see more EPL times starting to show on the list.

[hckymstr19]

Thanks. Yea I'll take that time with that DA, and I also had a little. Wheel spin off the line. I'll keep updating as I hit the track, plan on dual pulley in the future.

[derek.kritz]

Member name: Hckymstr19
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: CTS 57.02mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.844
D/A: 2074
Date: 08/26/2016
Timeslip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsf5nfyegilcakc/20160827_092546.jpg?dl=0
60ft: 1.690
330ft: 4.975
1/8 et: 7. 719
1/8 mph: 88.78
1000ft: 10.088
1/4 et: 12.087
1/4 mph: 111.45

Sick time!!!! U use mash and go or launch control?? Stock cooling??


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[KnewJack]

Hope to post up a time Tomorrow. DA should drop below 1800 and temps in upper 70's by sundown on a track day for the 1st time in forever.

[hckymstr19]

Sick time!!!! U use mash and go or launch control?? Stock cooling??


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Actually what I do (which is a crap shoot really), I let the RPMs Rev up with the launch control and try and release the brake just before it reaches the set point(4500). So try and release the brake as far up on the launch control RPM upswing if that makes sense. If you catch it right, the thing takes off like a monster.

And as for the cooling, I have what people are calling the "Hofa mod" or just a extra heat exchanger in Series with the oem one. But I also have two 9" fans behind the hest exchanger and also have the signal wire mod on my oem coolant pump so when I am at the track I can have coolant circulation and the fans on cooling that circuit with the engine off.

[Loe]

Upswing method, best way to launch imho (and basically how I launch myself).

..launch control, whats that? [:D]

[derek.kritz]

Actually what I do (which is a crap shoot really), I let the RPMs Rev up with the launch control and try and release the brake just before it reaches the set point(4500). So try and release the brake as far up on the launch control RPM upswing if that makes sense. If you catch it right, the thing takes off like a monster.

And as for the cooling, I have what people are calling the "Hofa mod" or just a extra heat exchanger in Series with the oem one. But I also have two 9" fans behind the hest exchanger and also have the signal wire mod on my oem coolant pump so when I am at the track I can have coolant circulation and the fans on cooling that circuit with the engine off.

Nice! [emoji1360][emoji1360]


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[cspcrx]

Upswing method, best way to launch imho (and basically how I launch myself).

..launch control, whats that? [:D]

Need to try this.

[ptper]

Actually what I do (which is a crap shoot really), I let the RPMs Rev up with the launch control and try and release the brake just before it reaches the set point(4500). So try and release the brake as far up on the launch control RPM upswing if that makes sense. If you catch it right, the thing takes off like a monster.


This is what I do. Is this aka the primetime method?!

[hckymstr19]

I'm hoping to hit the track tonight supposed to be in the mid 60s, hoping to get into the 11s.

[613B6]

Hit the track today, was pretty happy on pump gas, and race gas well, room for improvement. My 245 shitty Bridgestones aren't cutting it anymore, all my launches were hopping/spinning and short shifting 1-2 every time so need to get some better tires one day. But, 12 passes all below 11.7, best trap of 121mph and nothing broke is a great day!

Member name: 613B6
Model: B8S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: GIAC/CW
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Pump Gas
Fuel: 94
S/C pulley + size: CTS 57.02mm
Crank Pulley + size: Fluidampr 190mm
D/A: 853
Date: 11/09/2016
Timeslip: http://s54.photobucket.com/user/ELSpool/media/Car%20Related/IMG_5716_zpsaf04tvxl.jpg.html
60ft: 1.678
330ft: 5.067
1/8 et: 7.477
1/8 mph: 92.39
1000ft: 0.0
1/4 et: 11.66
1/4 mph: 117.58

Member name: 613B6
Model: B8S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: GIAC/CW
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Race Gas
Fuel: 94/MS109 Blend
S/C pulley + size: CTS 57.02mm
Crank Pulley + size: Fluidampr 190mm
D/A: 853
Date: 11/09/2016
Timeslip: http://s54.photobucket.com/user/ELSpool/media/Car%20Related/IMG_5716_zpsaf04tvxl.jpg.html
60ft: 1.604
330ft: 5.000
1/8 et: 7.394
1/8 mph: 92.88
1000ft: 0.0
1/4 et: 11.55
1/4 mph: 120.17

[KnewJack]

Member name: KnewJack
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85 (11/3gal)
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.808
D/A: 1659
Date: 09/09/2016
Timeslip: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/Chief_oneup/S4%20New%20Best%209-2%202.jpg
60ft: 1.698
330ft: 5.021
1/8 et: 7.767
1/8 mph: 89.13
1000ft: 10.103
1/4 et: 12.085
1/4 mph: 115.01

[cspcrx]

Great time! Are you running an AMS cooler? I thought you were.

Also notice 4 mph more than EPL above

[Hofahome]

Great time! Are you running an AMS cooler? I thought you were.

Also notice 4 mph more than EPL above

I wonder if the additional e85 helped keep timing up. Those runs serve as a pretty good comparison.

[cspcrx]

I am running the same setup so caught my eye. Have to wait several month before the air gets cool enough here in Phoenix!

[KnewJack]

Great time! Are you running an AMS cooler? I thought you were.

Also notice 4 mph more than EPL above
No cooler as of yet. A little E85 will def help you reach the timing targets of a 93 map. I am not logging though to see how it affects timing and no pure 93 comparison run. I have run 111.xx on straight 93, but that was before TCU tune. Ran E85 mix along with TCU tune each track visit since getting TCU tune. TCU made a marked difference on the butt dyno prior to mixing fuel, just never tracked it.

[cspcrx]

OK, agree these cars love a little E

[Loe]

613B6, great times, great traps! If you did short-shift on the 1-2, it affects the first half in traps/E.T., which affects the overall 1/4 mile trap/et by 1-2mph and .1-.2 second on both runs. You gained 27.29mph in the back half on your race file run (94/MS109 blend), that is incredible and shows that you are running a healthy timing advance/IAT control. Did you happen to log that run to see how much the 94 pump blended in affected anything? I ask because when MS109 is picky when blended too much with another fuel. How much time did you allow for race file adaptation?

KnewJack, your results mirror ChrisUCF99 his APR2 as well (he recently ran 11.9x in 1,8xxx D/A with a 93/E85 blend). The car runs healthier with these blends and allows the APR2 to hit near its maximum timing targets.

I added you both to the spreadsheet, well done representing both tunes guys! keep at it and use your lower D/A's to your advantage! It's still dreadfully near 2,800 D/A on my neck of the woods unfortunately for a clean pass.

[613B6]

613B6, great times, great traps! If you did short-shift on the 1-2, it affects the first half in traps/E.T., which affects the overall 1/4 mile trap/et by 1-2mph and .1-.2 second on both runs. You gained 27.29mph in the back half on your race file run (94/MS109 blend), that is incredible and shows that you are running a healthy timing advance/IAT control. Did you happen to log that run to see how much the 94 pump blended in affected anything? I ask because when MS109 is picky when blended too much with another fuel. How much time did you allow for race file adaptation?

KnewJack, your results mirror ChrisUCF99 his APR2 as well (he recently ran 11.9x in 1,8xxx D/A with a 93/E85 blend). The car runs healthier with these blends and allows the APR2 to hit near its maximum timing targets.

I added you both to the spreadsheet, well done representing both tunes guys! keep at it and use your lower D/A's to your advantage! It's still dreadfully near 2,800 D/A on my neck of the woods unfortunately for a clean pass.

Hi Loe, I had 1/8th tank of 94 and 5 gallons of MS109, timing was full tilt, 28 degrees peak and only slight correction (-1) in 4th gear. The car was a beast on the race file, way to much for the launch and tires. I ran 6 passes on race gas each went faster until the track closed, more left in it for sure, but very happy.

[Loe]

Hi Loe, I had 1/8th tank of 94 and 5 gallons of MS109, timing was full tilt, 28 degrees peak and only slight correction (-1) in 4th gear. The car was a beast on the race file, way to much for the launch and tires. I ran 6 passes on race gas each went faster until the track closed, more left in it for sure, but very happy.

Try to perfect the upswing method if it helps with traction (unless you are using it already), that 60ft time is wonderful for 245 cross-sectioned tires (or anything larger to be honest!). Sounds like there is more left in it since each pass went by faster and faster. I normally do 3-4 3rd gear WOT to allow trims/timing tables to adapt properly. Yeah, the GIAC race file is crazy with an upper/lower pulley combo! a WOT downshift into 2nd gear at 30mph can/will put some black tire marks on the road if you look in the rear view mirror lol [cool]

[KnewJack]

Made it back to track last night with better DA. Only got one run in but, it was my best so far. Car short shifted 1-2 shift due to wheel spin so more in it for sure on 93 file. Can't wait to try the race file.

Member name: KnewJack
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85 (11/3gal)
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.808
D/A: 709
Date: 10/07/2016
Timeslip: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/Chief_oneup/S4%20New%20Best%2010-7.jpg
60ft: 1.693
330ft: 4.977
1/8 et: 7.700
1/8 mph: 89.22
1000ft: 10.017
1/4 et: 11.982
1/4 mph: 116.16

[k9lovr]

Made it back to track last night with better DA. Only got one run in but, it was my best so far. Car short shifted 1-2 shift due to wheel spin so more in it for sure on 93 file. Can't wait to try the race file.

Member name: KnewJack
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85 (11/3gal)
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.808
D/A: 709
Date: 10/07/2016
Timeslip: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/Chief_oneup/S4%20New%20Best%2010-7.jpg
60ft: 1.693
330ft: 4.977
1/8 et: 7.700
1/8 mph: 89.22
1000ft: 10.017
1/4 et: 11.982
1/4 mph: 116.16

Which track did you run at?

[KnewJack]

Capitol Raceway.

[cspcrx]

Nice run!

What launch technique did you Use?

[Loe]

Capitol Raceway.

great job! I knew you could land 11's, it was only a matter of D/A's in your case and it looks like you can drop another .1 or possible .2 and gain 1-2mph once D/A's drop more. I'll get you added now

[colby7]

add me too, please!

[Loe]

added to the list.

*Update* List has now been expanded to all 3.0t guys from all Audi models since we share many performance bits and pieces.

[KnewJack]

Nice run!

What launch technique did you Use?

LC at 3500rpm. I did a prelaunch cause there was no way around the water box. Launch was closer to 3800 since I let her rip at the spike. I would try primetime's method but I haven't practiced it. May get a better launch.


great job! I knew you could land 11's, it was only a matter of D/A's in your case and it looks like you can drop another .1 or possible .2 and gain 1-2mph once D/A's drop more. I'll get you added now
Thanks Loe! I think once the DA drop into the negatives we'll see what happens. You've been on the money so far!

[KnewJack]

Also, Loe. I was thinking it might keep the list cleaner if you removed users previous times and just included their best times especially if nothing changed besides DA like mine.

[OnEaNgRyBuNnY]

Also, Loe. I was thinking it might keep the list cleaner if you removed users previous times and just included their best times especially if nothing changed besides DA like mine.

Is there any filter that can be applied to the spreadsheet to do that automatically?


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[cspcrx]

I agree the other thread got messy because of that. Someone ran 2 thousandths quicker and posted another result.

[Loe]

i can update it shortly (i'll just "hide" those rows).

[BlownOne]

Did you ever add my 11.58 run brotha? If not don't worry because I'm heading to be track next week after we adjust the tune and I'm going to crush that!

[Loe]

Did you ever add my 11.58 run brotha? If not don't worry because I'm heading to be track next week after we adjust the tune and I'm going to crush that!

could have sworn I did, but I just checked and didn't see it. I'll add it now.

[vdubed13]

Member name: Vdubed13
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: Unitronic Stage 2
ECU Tune: Unitronic Stage 2 + Race file
Stage: 2+
File: Race
Fuel: 104
S/C pulley + size: Unitonic 58.3
Crank Pulley + size:unitronic 180
Pulley Ratio: 3.087
D/A: 900
Date: 010/10/2016
Timeslip: http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy145/restep13/IMG_3216.jpg (http://s786.photobucket.com/user/restep13/media/IMG_3216.jpg.html)
60ft: 1.643
330ft: 4.790
1/8 et: 7.405
1/8 mph: 93.81
1000ft: 9.65
1/4 et: 11.557
1/4 mph: 117.02

[Johann@Carbnlab]

Member name: mtlquattro
Model: B8.5 s5
Tran: s-tronic
TCU Tune: OEM
ECU Tune: chipwerke pro
Stage: 1
File: 5-1
Fuel: 94
S/C pulley + size: OEM
Crank Pulley + size: OEM
Pulley Ratio: OEM
D/A: 352
Date: 10/01/2016
Timeslip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/25ogjyhu1vr5gjd/20161005_165436.jpg?dl=0
60ft: 1.781
330ft: 5.102
1/8 et: 7.854
1/8 mph: 89.21
1000ft: N/A
1/4 et: 12.219
1/4 mph: 112.99

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[KnewJack]

Weird. I just tried to pull up the sheet and get a blank spreadsheet. Also would be nice if this was a sticky.

[TSTARKZ]

Could also subtotal it by username and have the subtotal line be be average. Viewers can then go in and ungroup the rows to see the detailed runs


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[BlownOne]

Well that didn't go according to plan last night. New pb of 120.5 mph, but I could not get the tire spin or wheel hop to stop aside from the first pass when it was heat soaked from sitting 15 minutes🙄 The car is just getting harder to hook with all the torque of the 57/194 combo. Four wheel burnouts are fun, but spining ain't winning. #HorseowerProblems

[Loe]

Will thats a strong trap. Wheelspin will result in a slower first half, which results in a slower back half even if the delta is within the normal.

Google's "preview" doesn't seem to like my old format to I changed the link to link directly to the spreadsheet versus the "preview"

[BlownOne]

Will thats a strong trap. Wheelspin will result in a slower first half, which results in a slower back half even if the delta is within the normal.

Google's "preview" doesn't seem to like my old format to I changed the link to link directly to the spreadsheet versus the "preview"

Thanks Loe! It's coming around and it moves out for sure, but I just need to hit a test and tune with a decently prepped track to get it done. I was pedaling it of the line when I was getting wheel hop, so I know there's some more in it for sure. Also thinking my evo2's aren't sticky enough at this power level...

[Loe]

FWIW, PSS's are that great either...

I actually feel as though the OEM Dunlap Sport Maxx GT's were better for consistent 60ft's...

[Trent212]

I don't even have a proper DP file and my shit spins really bad with PSS, been looking at some R888 perhaps.

What tires are you rocking Loe?

[colby7]

New spreadsheet entry: Tony at EPL made me a 104 race file over the last week, and I took it out to the strip last night to do some initial logging. My fastest was 11.895 @ 114.07, including a 3.79 0-60. Loe you don't need to remove any previous lines in the spreadsheet since this is the first one on 104 fuel.

https://i.imgsafe.org/f2eadafbc2.jpg

[Loe]

I'm on PSS tires at the moment.

all times updated. Hoping I can get a run myself this week Weds, Thursday, Sunday or the following Weds.

[Johann@Carbnlab]

Hey Loe, on the spreadsheet my TCU and ECU are switched!

[BlownOne]

all times updated. Hoping I can get a run myself this week Weds, Thursday, Sunday or the following Weds.

Sweet! Just don't set the bar too high lol

[Ze_Nardo6]

Thanks Loe! It's coming around and it moves out for sure, but I just need to hit a test and tune with a decently prepped track to get it done. I was pedaling it of the line when I was getting wheel hop, so I know there's some more in it for sure. Also thinking my evo2's aren't sticky enough at this power level...

What size wheels are you running? Tires are everything for your situation! PSS seem to be a much better tire for the twisties than for a drag strip. R888, as mentioned above, may be worth a shot!

[KnewJack]

My track sucks. I was there for 4 hours and got one measly run in. Tried the primetime launch method and don't think I did it right. I was also running a lower mixture of E85. Didn't run my best E.T. but ran my best 1/8th mile mph. I've never broken 90 in the 1/8th before. Without launch control it sure feels like I get "Amax" acceleration quicker. Not even sure I know exactly what "Amax" is but I've heard it used before especially in the C7 RS7 forum. All I know is from 3000-7000rpm it revved out quicker. With launch control it always hangs a bit and then goes. Thoughts? I'm in the right lane. Left lane was a Ford Focus ST that surprised me with it's mph.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/Chief_oneup/10-14%20Run%20S4.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/Chief_oneup/media/10-14%20Run%20S4.jpg.html)

[chet.rowles]

Jesus Christ?! A focus ST? TRAPPING 117?!

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[Loe]

Was that run with LC or primetime? Were you in line the entire time? ET seems good for a pump file, but something happened that slowed you down slightly in the back-half so I am guessing IAT's or ignition corrections.

[BlownOne]

What size wheels are you running? Tires are everything for your situation! PSS seem to be a much better tire for the twisties than for a drag strip. R888, as mentioned above, may be worth a shot!

I'm on my 20" Hre's with 255x30 rubber bands so they aren't ideal for drag having basically zero sidewall. I did cut a 1.606 60' one of the passes so somehow it does hook when it feels like it lol. I would probably go with pilot sport cup 2's if I were going to buy now, but I'm going to wait until Michelin releases their new tire that's taking over for the pss in the spring tonsee how they compare.

[KnewJack]

Was that run with LC or primetime? Were you in line the entire time? ET seems good for a pump file, but something happened that slowed you down slightly in the back-half so I am guessing IAT's or ignition corrections.
That was my primetime attempt. I was in line the whole time cause there were so many oil downs with the outlaw cars that were running. I started the car every so often so it wasn't stone cold. It got pretty cool and DA was a whopping -690. The right lane at this track is known for lower traps which I really wanted to research if I could have gotten another run. I know with my bike I usually trap 148-150 in right lane and trapped a high of 152 in left.

[KnewJack]

Jesus Christ?! A focus ST? TRAPPING 117?!

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Yeah that thing hauled pretty good. Looked great from my rear view mirror! [:D]

Must have similar mods as this one here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2Au5OoYzmU

[Loe]

That was my primetime attempt. I was in line the whole time cause there were so many oil downs with the outlaw cars that were running. I started the car every so often so it wasn't stone cold. It got pretty cool and DA was a whopping -690. The right lane at this track is known for lower traps which I really wanted to research if I could have gotten another run. I know with my bike I usually trap 148-150 in right lane and trapped a high of 152 in left.

The launch went quite well IMHO, you'll maybe get an 1.69 60ft soon, but it's also very hard to land that when D/A's and track surfaces get cold (as well as tires because they are cold from the longer lines). Also, low D/A's can result in high IAT's due to long lines too unfortunately. Great run nonetheless, practice makes perfect!

[KnewJack]

The launch went quite well IMHO, you'll maybe get an 1.69 60ft soon, but it's also very hard to land that when D/A's and track surfaces get cold (as well as tires because they are cold from the longer lines). Also, low D/A's can result in high IAT's due to long lines too unfortunately. Great run nonetheless, practice makes perfect!
My best LC 60ft is 1.68. Hoping to best that using primtime method.

[jran76]

The launch went quite well IMHO, you'll maybe get an 1.69 60ft soon, but it's also very hard to land that when D/A's and track surfaces get cold (as well as tires because they are cold from the longer lines). Also, low D/A's can result in high IAT's due to long lines too unfortunately. Great run nonetheless, practice makes perfect!

Yeah, the ideal conditions are low-DA and temps WITH the sun out on the track. Unfortunately, scoring all that and good track prep is like finding the holy grail....

[xpoweruk]

Went to the track today,but made the mistake of using a different fuel :(
Didn't go to plan sadly & it was the last of the year for me
On the plus side It took 4 back to back runs to get the IAT's into the 60*C range :)

Best I could manage was a couple of 12.3's

[VeeDubbinJetta]

Took my new to me S4 to the track today for the first time. Sadly it had rained last night and they decided to only let us run the 1/8 mile which wasnt much fun. For some reason I couldnt figure out launch control, possibly due to the car sitting for way too long from the time I got there until actual race time. I turned ESC completely off, tried both S and M mode and nothing. Maybe im doing something wrong? Anyways my times seemed to be horrible though I am not sure what to base this car off of in the 1/8 mile. 60' wasnt good at all, but no LC so that didnt help.

Here are my two runs. The second run which is on the on the right in the photo was up against a MK7 R, not sure if it was stock or not but he ran a 1.8 60' 8.4 1/8 at 82.52 mph. Do these numbers look correct for a stock DSG S4?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5450/29867394284_93e93bdc5f_c.jpg

[KnewJack]

Went to the track today,but made the mistake of using a different fuel :(
Didn't go to plan sadly & it was the last of the year for me
On the plus side It took 4 back to back runs to get the IAT's into the 60*C range :)

Best I could manage was a couple of 12.3's

What were the ambient temps?

[KnewJack]

Took my new to me S4 to the track today for the first time. Sadly it had rained last night and they decided to only let us run the 1/8 mile which wasnt much fun. For some reason I couldnt figure out launch control, possibly due to the car sitting for way too long from the time I got there until actual race time. I turned ESC completely off, tried both S and M mode and nothing. Maybe im doing something wrong? Anyways my times seemed to be horrible though I am not sure what to base this car off of in the 1/8 mile. 60' wasnt good at all, but no LC so that didnt help.

Here are my two runs. The second run which is on the on the right in the photo was up against a MK7 R, not sure if it was stock or not but he ran a 1.8 60' 8.4 1/8 at 82.52 mph. Do these numbers look correct for a stock DSG S4?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5450/29867394284_93e93bdc5f_c.jpg

Is the car equipped with ADS? If so did you have it in dynamic mode?

[Trent212]

Took my new to me S4 to the track today for the first time. Sadly it had rained last night and they decided to only let us run the 1/8 mile which wasnt much fun. For some reason I couldnt figure out launch control, possibly due to the car sitting for way too long from the time I got there until actual race time. I turned ESC completely off, tried both S and M mode and nothing. Maybe im doing something wrong? Anyways my times seemed to be horrible though I am not sure what to base this car off of in the 1/8 mile. 60' wasnt good at all, but no LC so that didnt help.

Here are my two runs. The second run which is on the on the right in the photo was up against a MK7 R, not sure if it was stock or not but he ran a 1.8 60' 8.4 1/8 at 82.52 mph. Do these numbers look correct for a stock DSG S4?

https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5450/29867394284_93e93bdc5f_c.jpg

Sometimes it won't engage if you turn esc off in sport for me so I cycle it to d then back to s and it works.

[Johnson]

Took my new to me S4 to the track today for the first time. Sadly it had rained last night and they decided to only let us run the 1/8 mile which wasnt much fun. For some reason I couldnt figure out launch control, possibly due to the car sitting for way too long from the time I got there until actual race time. I turned ESC completely off, tried both S and M mode and nothing. Maybe im doing something wrong? Anyways my times seemed to be horrible though I am not sure what to base this car off of in the 1/8 mile. 60' wasnt good at all, but no LC so that didnt help.

Here are my two runs. The second run which is on the on the right in the photo was up against a MK7 R, not sure if it was stock or not but he ran a 1.8 60' 8.4 1/8 at 82.52 mph. Do these numbers look correct for a stock DSG S4?


I think you should be able to improve those times. Stock w/ DSG I ran an 8.92 and 8.45 1/8 mile. On the second run I put the car in S mode rather than M after reading that S mode let the car rev higher. There was a definite difference in the two runs. In S mode the car shifted later but it was kind of strange the way it shifted. It didn't feel as crisp, almost like it let the clutch slip more before completely engaging (difficult to explain without video). The first run I used launch control and the second run was my attempt at the mash and go technique.

http://i.imgur.com/MWD6Gohl.jpg

[xpoweruk]

What were the ambient temps?

It was 12*C (53.6*F) so nice n cool

[VeeDubbinJetta]

I think you should be able to improve those times. Stock w/ DSG I ran an 8.92 and 8.45 1/8 mile. On the second run I put the car in S mode rather than M after reading that S mode let the car rev higher. There was a definite difference in the two runs. In S mode the car shifted later but it was kind of strange the way it shifted. It didn't feel as crisp, almost like it let the clutch slip more before completely engaging (difficult to explain without video). The first run I used launch control and the second run was my attempt at the mash and go technique.



Both runs were done in S mode and just mash the pedal and go. I tried to activate launch control last night after running out to get dinner and still can't get it figured out. Trans would have certainly been up to temp last night. The only thing I haven't tried is leaving it in park, turn esc off and then go into S. I'll give that a shot tonight. Launch control in my mk5 R32 was very similar and it worked many times so I feel like I'm doing it right. I'm excited to try and run the 1/4 next season

[Hofahome]

Both runs were done in S mode and just mash the pedal and go. I tried to activate launch control last night after running out to get dinner and still can't get it figured out. Trans would have certainly been up to temp last night. The only thing I haven't tried is leaving it in park, turn esc off and then go into S. I'll give that a shot tonight. Launch control in my mk5 R32 was very similar and it worked many times so I feel like I'm doing it right. I'm excited to try and run the 1/4 next season


Curious what you think of your prior A4 vs S4?

[Loe]

Sometimes it won't engage if you turn esc off in sport for me so I cycle it to d then back to s and it works.

Yep, works every time if you cycle the shifter back into D/S. If you engage the LC sequence and then roll forward, some cars take it out of LC sequence. Once you roll to the line, you have to cycle the shifter from D/S to D, and back to D/S again to re-engage the LC function.

[BlownOne]

^Exactly what loe said, but I've always went to neutral and back into M to reactivate once I'm staged.

[VeeDubbinJetta]

Figured it out last night. I think I was being a nancy when it comes to pushing the throttle, on my old r32 you could modulate the throttle from what I remember. I tried it again last night, cycled from d to s and mashed the gas... it worked [emoji3]

[VeeDubbinJetta]

Curious what you think of your prior A4 vs S4?

Honestly they are like two completely different cars. Exterior wise they are pretty much identical, but they way it drives feels so much different and I don't mean just in raw power. The S4 certainly feels like a more RWD based setup vs the A4. The S4 feels a lot stiffer with less body roll and I had the sport package on the A4. Everything just feels tighter. I absolutely love the interior on the S4 as well. The A4 was far from boring, at least in a 6spd, with sport and an APR stg 1 tune, but I am very happy to now be in an S4, that I hope to someday also get tuned.

[Moogas1]

Here's the first 1/4 mile time I've ever posted on Audizine. Thanks for the updated format job well done...

Member name: MOOGAS1

Model: S4

Trans: DSG

TCU Tune: APR

ECU Tune: APR

Stage: 2

File: 93

Fuel: 93

S/C Pulley+Size: APR 57.75

Crank Pulley: Stock

Pulley Ratio: 2.808

D/A: -493

Date: 10/25/2016


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60ft: 1.620

330ft: 4.748

1/8 et: 7.336

1/8 mph: 94.48

1000ft: 9.629

1/4 et: 11.546

1/4 mph: 118.51


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[Moogas1]

Here's a pic of the car with the number on it...
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/37e882dcaf1f8293f3bdbd49db30a572.jpg


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[jran76]

Great passes on 93! Gotta love Atco and the -500 DA....

[Loe]

wow! stage 2 pump record! (also gr8 comparison to show ET's dropping while MPH goes up between you first and second runs posted due to the car launching differently).

[cspcrx]

Heck yah great time and mph! Any upgrades to your SC cooling?

I know I will never see those times here, DA never gets that good here. Heck lucky if we get one that matches actual altitude.

[whiped]

Damn you killed it!

Looking at the timestamps looks like it was a hot run too!


Heck yah great time and mph! Any upgrades to your SC cooling?

+1

[Hofahome]

Damn! Great run on 93!

[Moogas1]

Thanks guys.... yes I hot-lapped it... on those set of runs the car blew the tires off on the first run. Although I drove it around for a couple of minutes to warm the tires it didn't help. Second run car obviously hooked. Then the third run the gods looked down and said let's take away a half a tenth or so... car felt like it was in beast mode all day... I do have other passes just figured I'd post these first. I'll show you the others in a short while. Oh and yes I do have the APR CPS on the car for cooking purposes.


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[whiped]

I'll show you the others in a short while. Oh and yes I do have the APR CPS on the car for cooking purposes.

That is probably the biggest reason you were able to successfully run hot.

You planning to keep your car stage II?

[Moogas1]

First run of day netted me an 11.641 then some minor technicalities here and there. Here are the rest of the slips. I'll actually post all of them it's easier.

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[neverfastenough]

Hot lapping like a boss... In and out. Getting the job done. Nice work.

[Moogas1]

[QUOTE=whiped;11972519]That is probably the biggest reason you were able to successfully run hot.

You planning to keep your car stage II?[/
As of now, yes. I want to run it in the spring or maybe in the next couple of weeks at Enlishtown with 100 octane and see what it does for S%#ts and giggles. Reason being, It was pulling some timing, about 4 degrees or so and I think it can run better with the ECU not intervening. Only problem three weeks ago at ETOWN they were making us run outside of groove so no traction ran 11.90's with tires spinning every run, we'll see... Also, yes, the CPS definitely helps a ton.


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[Moogas1]

Thanks, neverfastenough, I like your member ID, nice..and so true..!!!! Lol


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[KnewJack]

wow! stage 2 pump record! (also gr8 comparison to show ET's dropping while MPH goes up between you first and second runs posted due to the car launching differently).
I noticed the same thing, Loe. I am really envious of the MPH other stage 2 APR cars pull in the 1/8th. That strong 94.55 1/8th mile directly relates to the nice increase in 1/4 trap. He's picking up 24-24.7 mph on the big end of both his best runs which may suggest less than optimal timing advance in the upper gears. I can trap 116.XX but only average 89.xx in the 1/8th.


Thanks guys.... yes I hot-lapped it... on those set of runs the car blew the tires off on the first run. Although I drove it around for a couple of minutes to warm the tires it didn't help. Second run car obviously hooked. Then the third run the gods looked down and said let's take away a half a tenth or so... car felt like it was in beast mode all day... I do have other passes just figured I'd post these first. I'll show you the others in a short while. Oh and yes I do have the APR CPS on the car for cooking purposes.


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That is an excellent run. Were you running straight 93? If so would be very cool to see what an E30 mix can do for you. Could net you a 120 trap speed.

[Moogas1]

I noticed the same thing, Loe. I am really envious of the MPH other stage 2 APR cars pull in the 1/8th. That strong 94.55 1/8th mile directly relates to the nice increase in 1/4 trap. He's picking up 24-24.7 mph on the big end of both his best runs which may suggest less than optimal timing advance in the upper gears. I can trap 116.XX but only average 89.xx in the 1/8th.

That is an excellent run. Were you running straight 93? If so would be very cool to see what an E30 mix can do for you. Could net you a 120 trap speed.

Yes straight 93 octane... mixing with E30, would that even work without adjusting tune? I was thinking more in terms of using some Sunoco 260 100 octane for fun...but living anywhere from 2-3 hours from the closest tracks is a pain for me to do.... would have to have things premixed and/or fill up on side of road. Worth a try either way, I just have to estimate range/traffic very well...

[whiped]

Yes straight 93 octane... mixing with E30, would that even work without adjusting tune? I was thinking more in terms of using some Sunoco 260 100 octane for fun...but living anywhere from 2-3 hours from the closest tracks is a pain for me to do.... would have to have things premixed and/or fill up on side of road. Worth a try either way, I just have to estimate range/traffic very well...

You would want to switch to the race gas file for optimal performance. Other than that should be fine.

Running 104 should be even better than E30

[Ze_Nardo6]

Yes straight 93 octane... mixing with E30, would that even work without adjusting tune? I was thinking more in terms of using some Sunoco 260 100 octane for fun...but living anywhere from 2-3 hours from the closest tracks is a pain for me to do.... would have to have things premixed and/or fill up on side of road. Worth a try either way, I just have to estimate range/traffic very well...

Yes, it more than likely would benefit your tune, as is, assuming your tune is like most others running Stage 2. It could help prevent any bypass and/or knock that you may be currently experiencing. Basically just allows you to experience the full potential of your tune

[Ze_Nardo6]

You would want to switch to the race gas file for optimal performance. Other than that should be fine.

Running 104 should be even better than E30

Don't think you would want to switch to a race file running e30 with 93 gas

[Moogas1]

Don't think you would want to switch to a race file running e30 with 93 gas
Not looking to switch to race file actually...besides you're correct if running race file, race fuel would be the way to go.

[mrmomo313]

Not looking to switch to race file actually...besides you're correct if running race file, race fuel would be the way to go.

Dang Moogas. Congrats!! That's about what I wouldve run in 0DA with the 179mm crank on APR 93 tune/CW+stock tcu. Car is moving out!

Also fwiw. APR 100 map was optimized for the sunoco gt260 you mentioned. That'll be your best bet on that map. 93/e85 works but takes some trial/error to find the right mix.

[Moogas1]

Dang Moogas. Congrats!! That's about what I wouldve run in 0DA with the 179mm crank on APR 93 tune/CW+stock tcu. Car is moving out!

Also fwiw. APR 100 map was optimized for the sunoco gt260 you mentioned. That'll be your best bet on that map. 93/e85 works but takes some trial/error to find the right mix.

Thanks mrmomo...

[doug97gxe]

Here's the first 1/4 mile time I've ever posted on Audizine. Thanks for the updated format job well done...

Member name: MOOGAS1

Model: S4

Trans: DSG

TCU Tune: APR

ECU Tune: APR

Stage: 2

File: 93

Fuel: 93

S/C Pulley+Size: APR 57.75

Crank Pulley: Stock

Pulley Ratio: 2.808

D/A: -493

Date: 10/25/2016


http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/4a1e9306054751dbc2bd936ae0b1b327.jpg

60ft: 1.620

330ft: 4.748

1/8 et: 7.336

1/8 mph: 94.48

1000ft: 9.629

1/4 et: 11.546

1/4 mph: 118.51


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that's a long ass drive

[KnewJack]

Yes straight 93 octane... mixing with E30, would that even work without adjusting tune? I was thinking more in terms of using some Sunoco 260 100 octane for fun...but living anywhere from 2-3 hours from the closest tracks is a pain for me to do.... would have to have things premixed and/or fill up on side of road. Worth a try either way, I just have to estimate range/traffic very well...

E30 is achieved by mixing some E85 with 93. I do a 3.5:11 E85/93 mix which nets about E30 assuming your 93 has 10% Ethanol. If E85 is within reach it's worth a shot. I run that mix with 0 changes to the APR stage 2 map. I have yet to run at the track on straight 93. Usual rule is to run minimum octane to achieve max performance of tune, too much octane can slow you down with conservative timing if you are not knocking. I'm going to try running on straight 93 next visit to see what the difference is.

[BlownOne]

When blending, you have to pay attention to your ethanol mix and if you have a specific tune for a specific blend. Generally most cars can take 3-5 gallons of e85 with 9.5-10 gallons of 91/93 octane on most pump gas files (race files if you log). When some people refer to an e30 blend as knewjack did, he is running around 30% ethanol content. When I say I'm running a 40% blend, I'm actually running 40% of the total fuel volume in ethanol (5 gallons e85 mixed with 7.5 gallons 91) which is probably closer to e50 depending on your pumps, but I have a tune for this blend.

[KnewJack]

@Moogas1. Did you use launch control and if so what launch RPM? Tires?

Those are some very good 60fts. I won't have a chance to run with a decent DA and the sun out to keep track warm until my track does T&T on Sunday mornings in the next couple weeks.

[Moogas1]

@Moogas1. Did you use launch control and if so what launch RPM? Tires?

Those are some very good 60fts. I won't have a chance to run with a decent DA and the sun out to keep track warm until my track does T&T on Sunday mornings in the next couple weeks.

I used the "Primetime" method, KnewJack.

[Moogas1]

I used the "Primetime" method, KnewJack.

Tires: Continental DWS D06 stock size.

[Loe]

primetime method works wonders! Makes me wish I was back in stage 2 again to see what times I can land using that method.

all times have been updated (including your latest highest trap Colby)

[KnewJack]

primetime method works wonders! Makes me wish I was back in stage 2 again to see what times I can land using that method.

all times have been updated (including your latest highest trap Colby)

I'm working on getting it right. I think LC shocks the tires too much causing more wheel spin. PT meth from vids of seen of it done correctly seems more linear with no delay nor hangups. Really makes the most out of the torque that's available under 4000rpm.

[Moogas1]

I'm working on getting it right. I think LC shocks the tires too much causing more wheel spin. PT meth from vids of seen of it done correctly seems more linear with no delay nor hangups. Really makes the most out of the torque that's available under 4000rpm.
I've tried launch control in the past, always run a little slower. Now that's my car, others use it successfully. Just for comparison reasons, I dynod the car once, with only stage 2 nothing else in 2000+ D/A day, it produced 375 wtq at under 3/4K rpm. Not sure now but I'm sure it beats that figure, easily.

[Moogas1]

I've tried launch control in the past, always run a little slower. Now that's my car, others use it successfully. Just for comparison reasons, I dynod the car once, with only stage 2 nothing else in 2000+ D/A day, it produced 375 wtq at under 3/4K rpm. Not sure now but I'm sure it beats that figure, easily.

Sorry, had to cut it short I'm working...

So, the car easily overpowers the tires when launch control is used.

[cspcrx]

would like to see a video of the PT method. I think I understand it but not sure. Seems like your using but just prior to in engaging letting the brake go. Basically not allowing it to get into bounce of maintaining the RPM.

[Moogas1]

would like to see a video of the PT method. I think I understand it but not sure. Seems like your using but just prior to in engaging letting the brake go. Basically not allowing it to get into bounce of maintaining the RPM.

Easiest way to explain it, it's like slipping off the clutch on a manual car and mashing the throttle. Only difference here is you're slipping of the break. There it is in a nutshell...

[Kai@EliteMS]

Here's the first 1/4 mile time I've ever posted on Audizine. Thanks for the updated format job well done...

Member name: MOOGAS1

Model: S4

Trans: DSG

TCU Tune: APR

ECU Tune: APR

Stage: 2

File: 93

Fuel: 93

S/C Pulley+Size: APR 57.75

Crank Pulley: Stock

Pulley Ratio: 2.808

D/A: -493

Date: 10/25/2016


http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161026/4a1e9306054751dbc2bd936ae0b1b327.jpg

60ft: 1.620

330ft: 4.748

1/8 et: 7.336

1/8 mph: 94.48

1000ft: 9.629

1/4 et: 11.546

1/4 mph: 118.51


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Congrats once again!

[Moogas1]

Congrats once again!

Thank you Kai, Sal, and the rest of the crew at Elite Motorsports, would not have been possible without you guys..! You always guided me in the right direction. I would also like to congratulate you on your new state of the art facilities, looking forward to checking the place out, soon.

[KnewJack]

Went to the track tonight on straight 93oct. Ran a new best due to killer DA, but only marginally better. I was trying to do the PT meth, but I could not keep LC from engaging which is why I don't think I have ever successfully done it at the track, but once on the street (more on that later). I disabled trak control with shifter in D1 then selected S1. Engaged LC. Every combo I tried, if I had trak control fully off LC will engage every time. Is this a B8.5 thing? Anyway here is the slip, I'm on the left 7707.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/Chief_oneup/S4%20New%20Best%2010-28.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/Chief_oneup/media/S4%20New%20Best%2010-28.jpg.html)

Very small improvement from my previous best of [email protected]. I Did spin my way to my best 60ft so far. Car really hung up on the 1-2 shift though. It always does it somewhat, but it was bad this time and the 330 shows it. Was really hoping for an 11.8x or better. Oh, well.

So on the way home I decided to try the PT meth again (never tried it on the street only at the track).This time I left trak in sport mode, gave it 3/4 throttle and soon as revs hit 2000rpm I let off the brakes. Wow! It just left; and hard, with no hesitation like with LC. Tached out quicker than it ever has with LC, I think. Gotta try this way at the track. Does everyone else Turn TC completely off? If I do, I get LC regardless.

[Moogas1]

Went to the track tonight on straight 93oct. Ran a new best due to killer DA, but only marginally better. I was trying to do the PT meth, but I could not keep LC from engaging which is why I don't think I have ever successfully done it at the track, but once on the street (more on that later). I disabled trak control with shifter in D1 then selected S1. Engaged LC. Every combo I tried, if I had trak control fully off LC will engage every time. Is this a B8.5 thing? Anyway here is the slip, I'm on the left 7707.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/Chief_oneup/S4%20New%20Best%2010-28.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/Chief_oneup/media/S4%20New%20Best%2010-28.jpg.html)

Very small improvement from my previous best of [email protected]. I Did spin my way to my best 60ft so far. Car really hung up on the 1-2 shift though. It always does it somewhat, but it was bad this time and the 330 shows it. Was really hoping for an 11.8x or better. Oh, well.

So on the way home I decided to try the PT meth again (never tried it on the street only at the track).This time I left trak in sport mode, gave it 3/4 throttle and soon as revs hit 2000rpm I let off the brakes. Wow! It just left; and hard, with no hesitation like with LC. Tached out quicker than it ever has with LC, I think. Gotta try this way at the track. Does everyone else Turn TC completely off? If I do, I get LC regardless.

Nice time KnewJack, your dash should say ESC OFF meaning the traction control is completely disengaged. This is the only way you'll get your fastest times. Your car has more in it especially if you were spinning as you say. Good luck, next time out, you should bring back some killer times.

[cspcrx]

Nice time. That is my take on it. Your actually using LC but letting the brake go before it actually engages.

I think that s what they mean about the upswing. As the rpms are rising, before LC actually engages you let the brake go.

May be easier for those with a TCU tune and raised LC limits just because you have more room for error before it actually engages

[Loe]

cspcrx, yes thats basically the extent of it. The last couple 1000 or so rpm remaining until you reach the LC rev point will allow the car to shoot forward as the clutches continue to slip to that RPM, "softening" the initial launch ("softening" is relative only to the clutch dump that the LC will do).

KnewJack, you definitely have the MPH, just keep at it and you'll land that 11.8x

[colby7]

He's got at least an 11.7 in him if he gets clean shifts. When I ran an 11.91 on Wednesday my 60ft was 1.78, over a tenth slower. That should translate into a two tenths faster ET. I think low 11.7, or high 11.6 is possible.

[KnewJack]

Thanks for the words of encouragement and advice!

The 1-2 shift hang up is killing my 330ft and 1/8th mph. I'm almost 2/10ths behind in the 330 and 1/8th than most guys with similar 60fts. On one of my runs I ran a SC Camaro trapping 110. He left before I did but I had the better 60ft and was reeling him in. I noticed how much ground I lost on the 1-2 which kind of put it in perspective even though I ended up running him down in the upper gears. I know this is a known problem with APR's TCU tune. Hope they find a fix. My problem is nowhere near as pronounced as some I've seen though and it's only on the 1-2 for the most part.

With LC active it flashes to 3500 very quickly at the smallest throttle input. If I go 3/4 it shoot up to 6K in a flash. I guess I have to be quicker to keep revs from flashing above 3500. In Sport mode it was a piece of cake to catch it right at 2krpm with no dip and just a huge rush towards the red line.

On another note, this car is blast to drive. It's not the quickest thing at the track, but sure surprises a lot of people.

[Kai@EliteMS]

Thank you Kai, Sal, and the rest of the crew at Elite Motorsports, would not have been possible without you guys..! You always guided me in the right direction. I would also like to congratulate you on your new state of the art facilities, looking forward to checking the place out, soon.

Thank you, see you soon!

[redlinerex]

Hi Loe,

This is my first AZ post although you have already helped me a ton offline (big thanks!). Made six passes last night in less than an hour. Here are my best ET and best trap speed slips ... not sure which you'd like to add to the spreadsheet:

Best ET Run:
Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: OEM
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 1
File: E85
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18
Pulley Ratio: 2.564
D/A: ~700 (estimated ~30min prior to runs)
Date: 11/02/2016
Timeslip: http://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=86117&cat=500
60ft: 1.823
330ft: 5.273
1/8 et: 8.080
1/8 mph: 87.82
1000ft: 10.492
1/4 et: 12.512
1/4 mph: 111.86

Best Trap Speed Run:
Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: OEM
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 1
File: E85
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18
Pulley Ratio: 2.564
D/A: ~700 (estimated ~30min prior to runs)
Date: 11/02/2016
Timeslip: http://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=86117&cat=500
60ft: 1.906
330ft: 5.341
1/8 et: 8.140
1/8 mph: 88.25
1000ft: 10.541
1/4 et: 12.550
1/4 mph: 112.50

Lots of room to improve, especially on the 60ft. No weight reductions, had child seat in back. Stock 19" Peelers.

[Loe]

Great results for stage 1! I knew you could do it! [up] I'll get you added this weekend.

[cobrario]

Well done- I assume that the EPL stage 1 e85 file is comparable to a stage 1 104 file?

[redlinerex]

Great results for stage 1! I knew you could do it! [up] I'll get you added this weekend.
Thanks Loe! Made six passes in less than an hour (hot lapping). All runs in the 12.5-12.6 sec range with traps in the 111-112 mph range. Pretty consistent even though IATs were probably up there.

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[colby7]

Thanks Loe! Made six passes in less than an hour (hot lapping). All runs in the 12.5-12.6 sec range with traps in the 111-112 mph range. Pretty consistent even though IATs were probably up there.

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I showed up at Sac Raceway about 7:30 last night, I must have just missed you. Congrats on your times, it's good to see another EPLer in the area (I'm in EDH).

[colby7]

Another spreadsheet addition! The DA was -200, and the fuel was 104.

https://i.imgsafe.org/bcc846acda.jpg

[KnewJack]

Another spreadsheet addition! The DA was -200, and the fuel was 104.

https://i.imgsafe.org/bcc846acda.jpg

Great Time! That is moving.

[Loe]

All times updated, keep them coming! This season should be awesome with all of the 2016 modifications and filled with a few more 120+mph trappers for the 3.0t B8/8.5 and higher than 115mph for the Q5 guys.

[cobrario]

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_11961.JPG (http://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=86145&title=time-slip-11-2f5-2f16&cat=500)
Revo is going soon but before she's gone I gave it one final pass.
2014 DSG
Revo 1+
Revo TCU
Stock Crank
93 file
DA 500

[Loe]

Looks great! REVO times have been pretty consistent, a great showing. I'll get you added this evening.

[FLYINGLEGGS]

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_11961.JPG (http://www.audizine.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=86145&title=time-slip-11-2f5-2f16&cat=500)
Revo is going soon but before she's gone I gave it one final pass.
2014 DSG
Revo 1+
Revo TCU
Stock Crank
93 file
DA 500
Isn't a revo stage 1+, actually a stage 2? (Has a sc pulley)

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[cobrario]

Isn't a revo stage 1+, actually a stage 2? (Has a sc pulley)
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That's correct- Revo S/C pulley 57.65, stock crank pulley

[stereojorge]

Isn't a revo stage 1+, actually a stage 2? (Has a sc pulley)

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They have a super weird naming structure!


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[doug97gxe]

Another spreadsheet addition! The DA was -200, and the fuel was 104.

https://i.imgsafe.org/bcc846acda.jpg

what was on the right and how shocked are they to see an SUV blowing their doors off

[cobrario]

Looks great! REVO times have been pretty consistent, a great showing. I'll get you added this evening.

Thank you Loe, I was a little surprise by the ET. That's the first pass I used launch control and honestly I think the car has more in it- Haven't seen many Revo cars run 11's but I think on the 104 file it's very possible- that'll be for someone else to try though as I'll be switching to APR soon.

[colby7]

what was on the right and how shocked are they to see an SUV blowing their doors off

I'm not sure of the make/model of the other car. Yeah lots of people are surprised by the speed. It isn't just fast for a CUV, it's just fast. Only about 10% of the cars run 11s or faster.

[cobrario]

what was on the right and how shocked are they to see an SUV blowing their doors off

I'd guess anything that runs 16.44 is used to getting its doors blown off 😉.

[doug97gxe]

I'd guess anything that runs 16.44 is used to getting its doors blown off [emoji6].

[emoji24]


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[cspcrx]

I'd guess anything that runs 16.44 is used to getting its doors blown off ��.

Seriously, what was that? My CRX with all of 91hp stock ran 15s

[redlinerex]

Well done- I assume that the EPL stage 1 e85 file is comparable to a stage 1 104 file?

Circling back to your post, I can only answer part of this question. Looking at my Stg1 E85 logs, I have seen timing advance in the 22-23deg range. I don't have the 104 file so hopefully somebody else can chime in with some comparison data.

[rusq5]

Another spreadsheet addition! The DA was -200, and the fuel was 104.

https://i.imgsafe.org/bcc846acda.jpg

Great time Colby!

[FLYINGLEGGS]

They have a super weird naming structure!


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You have a super weird name structure

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[Lensch09]

Member name: Lensch09
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: 6MT
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: C10 (Leaded 110)
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
D/A: 120
Date: 11/9/2016
60ft: 1.8ish
1/4 et: 12.2ish
1/4 mph: 116ish

I'll post the slip later.

Car is still on stock cooling and was running HORRIBLY hot (also a 6MT). Gonna change plugs and swap in an AMS cooler system in the next week and a half. Hopefully it's all figured out at that point and I can try to run into the 11s.

After the first run MPH start dropping off like crazy. By the end of the night, the car would pull so much timing that it almost felt like it would stop accelerating in second gear right after the upshift (no codes).

-DL

[whiped]

Car is still on stock cooling and was running HORRIBLY hot (also a 6MT). Gonna change plugs and swap in an AMS cooler system in the next week and a half. Hopefully it's all figured out at that point and I can try to run into the 11s.

After the first run MPH start dropping off like crazy. By the end of the night, the car would pull so much timing that it almost felt like it would stop accelerating in second gear right after the upshift (no codes).

-DL

Not to derail this thread too much, but did you get the B8 hard piping with the AMS kit?

If not, it is worth picking some up as it really cleans up the tubing runs.

Here is the link on ECS: https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4-Quattro-3.0T/Engine/Cooling/Supercharger/ES1598497/

You can find used ones for much cheaper if you don't mind reusing them.

Wish I would have known prior to installing my AWE kit. It is now on my to-do list once I upgrade it again.

[Lensch09]

Not to derail this thread too much, but did you get the B8 hard piping with the AMS kit?

If not, it is worth picking some up as it really cleans up the tubing runs.

Here is the link on ECS: https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_S4-Quattro-3.0T/Engine/Cooling/Supercharger/ES1598497/

You can find used ones for much cheaper if you don't mind reusing them.

Wish I would have known prior to installing my AWE kit. It is now on my to-do list once I upgrade it again.

Yessir. AMS Alpha comes with the B8 pipes! I may even wrap them with gold foil just to be a wise guy

-DL

[BlownOne]

Member name: Lensch09
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: 6MT
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: C10 (Leaded 110)
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
D/A: 120
Date: 11/9/2016
60ft: 1.8ish
1/4 et: 12.2ish
1/4 mph: 116ish

I'll post the slip later.

Car is still on stock cooling and was running HORRIBLY hot (also a 6MT). Gonna change plugs and swap in an AMS cooler system in the next week and a half. Hopefully it's all figured out at that point and I can try to run into the 11s.

After the first run MPH start dropping off like crazy. By the end of the night, the car would pull so much timing that it almost felt like it would stop accelerating in second gear right after the upshift (no codes).

-DL

Ahhh that's sucks brotha! Last Saturday once my car was heat soaked, my mph dropped from 118-119mph to 106-107mph...the iat struggle is real lol.

[HeymyAudi]

Member name: HeymyA4
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: CTS + 57.02
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.139
D/A:
Date: 11/13/16
Timeslip: See Below
60ft: 1.680
330ft: 4.884
1/8 et: 7.563
1/8 mph: 92.37
1000ft: 9.869
1/4 et: 11.815
1/4 mph: 116.69

3077630777

[whiped]

Nice run man! How much E85 did you have mixed in?

[KnewJack]

Member name: HeymyA4
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: CTS + 57.02
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.139
D/A:
Date: 11/13/16
Timeslip: See Below
60ft: 1.680
330ft: 4.884
1/8 et: 7.563
1/8 mph: 92.37
1000ft: 9.869
1/4 et: 11.815
1/4 mph: 116.69



Nice! I'm usually the lone Audi at Capitol, I should have come out, instead I went to MIR for swap meet and T&T.

[HeymyAudi]

Nice run man! How much E85 did you have mixed in?

3.2 Gallons


Nice! I'm usually the lone Audi at Capitol, I should have come out, instead I went to MIR for swap meet and T&T.

I was the only one today. The funny thing is that they think these things are slow until we take off, then everyone comes over and is asking " what do you have done to it" ?

[Loe]

updated, looks like the D/A was 39ft, pretty nice that the weather is allowing a few of you from up north to still run during this time of year.

[KnewJack]

I was the only one today. The funny thing is that they think these things are slow until we take off, then everyone comes over and is asking " what do you have done to it" ?

Yeah is surprises a lot of people. I'm going next Sunday, should be a stellar DA.



updated, looks like the D/A was 39ft, pretty nice that the weather is allowing a few of you from up north to still run during this time of year.

MIR runs until Nov 27th. Thing about MIR is the track is so sticky all the way down the 1/4, you run slower mph which probably has little effect on 1000+ WHP cars MPH and helps them stay hooked all the way down, but hurts the WHP challenged MPH! Best I managed there was 115, with 11.98 ET, though I ran my best 1/8th mile MPH of 91.35. Shifts were hanging bad on 1-2 and some on the 2-3. I could shift a manual quicker Lol.

[HeymyAudi]

updated, looks like the D/A was 39ft, pretty nice that the weather is allowing a few of you from up north to still run during this time of year.

Yeah it was a beautiful day yesterday around 65 degrees at the track.


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[Tony@EPL]

3.2 Gallons



Great pass! Glad you got out.

Honestly will the conditions as favorable as they were.... the e85 might have "hurt" you more then helped! I bet you would have run the exact time on straight pump!

[KnewJack]

Great pass! Glad you got out.

Honestly will the conditions as favorable as they were.... the e85 might have "hurt" you more then helped! I bet you would have run the exact time on straight pump!

I'm not EPL, but I have notice in a DA < 200ft I mph higher on straight 93. My highest mph ever of 116.98 was on straight 93. DA was -300 if memory serves.

[Q5OnTheMove]

I'm not EPL, but I have notice in a DA < 200ft I mph higher on straight 93. My highest mph ever of 116.98 was on straight 93. DA was -300 if memory serves.

Have you logged Lambda and timing to see why this happens?


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[cobrario]

Circling back to your post, I can only answer part of this question. Looking at my Stg1 E85 logs, I have seen timing advance in the 22-23deg range. I don't have the 104 file so hopefully somebody else can chime in with some comparison data.

those do seem similar to 104 file numbers but maybe Tony can reply to confirm. Thanks!

[KnewJack]

Have you logged Lambda and timing to see why this happens?


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I have no logging capabilities. This is all unscientific observations. Just runs in similar DA with E85 mix and straight 93. My thinking is that the additional octane and cooling properties of the mix are less needed with cooler denser air. My understanding is you can make more power with less octane (with faster burn rate) if the octane is sufficient enough to reach target timing tables. Like running race gas on 93 octane map. More octane is only going to slow you down if cannot make the most of it. That's my thinking at least.

[colby7]

I had a very slight improvement in 1/4 time last night. I ran an 11.788.

https://i.imgsafe.org/dfe8340e48.jpg

[whiped]

Damn Colby, that thing moves!

[Chris@EPL]

I had a very slight improvement in 1/4 time last night. I ran an 11.788.

https://i.imgsafe.org/dfe8340e48.jpg

Just another record ;)

I love how Colby always picks on these slow cars to race against and destroy. Do you say something like don't worry it is just a family SUV and it is not even that fast. I won't make you look bad.

[Loe]

I'll get the timeslip added on Sunday when I update everyone elses' submissions, keep it up Colby!

[jran76]

Here's what is probably my last run in my car in it's current configuration. Our track is closed for the year. I was hoping to do the Ultracharger, but APR missed our boost season. Not sure what's next for me.... Anyway, a slight improvement in ET.... I'm car #206.

Member name: jran76
Model: S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: 104 (5 gallons)/93 (1.5 gallons)
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: stock
Pulley Ratio: 2.808
D/A: 700
Date: 11/20/2016
Timeslip:
http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss146/jran76/FD42CF89-4DA0-4C2D-B0BF-8CD2F28DBB85_zpsocrsfgzx.jpg (http://s570.photobucket.com/user/jran76/media/FD42CF89-4DA0-4C2D-B0BF-8CD2F28DBB85_zpsocrsfgzx.jpg.html)
60ft: 1.709
330ft: 4.897
1/8 et: 7.550
1/8 mph: 92.71
1000ft: 9.831
1/4 et: 11.755
1/4 mph: 117.99

[colby7]

Jran why do you put 93 in when you run your race file?

[doug97gxe]

Jran why do you put 93 in when you run your race file?

I don't think he can switch maps as easy as EPL or GIAC


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[Loe]

he has a B8, he can switch it on the column stalk if he elected that option. Great run Josh, i'll get you added too; that trap is strong considering your track conditions similar to mine yesterday

[doug97gxe]

he has a B8, he can switch it on the column stalk if he elected that option. Great run Josh, i'll get you added too; that trap is strong considering your track conditions similar to mine yesterday

ahhhhhh

[Loe]

ahhhhhh

yes sir.

All times added including my time from this past weekend.

[jran76]

Jran why do you put 93 in when you run your race file?

I usually run it down 25-30 miles past 0 on the DIS when I switch over from 93 to race gas, then change maps, and drive another 15-20 miles to let it adapt. So, the tank is almost empty when I add race gas.

The shop I buy race gas from closed early on Friday, so I had to fill up at the track. I wasn't 100% sure the fuel station at the track would be open, so had to leave a little more 93 than normal in the tank in case I had to make it to a gas station. I was also only able to drive around a couple miles on the track's property to get it to adapt.

With all that said, my logs looked good even on my first pass. It topped out at 24-25 degrees with very little timing correction (1-2 degrees at just a couple spots). The next two passes hit 28 degrees, again with very little correction, and IATs weren't great by then.

And, yes, I have APR's program switching with 91, 93, 100, 104 maps.

[colby7]

Ah okay that makes sense. I thought maybe you were trying something new that I didn't know about. That's a great time for a single pulley in 700 DA.

[jran76]

Great run Josh, i'll get you added too; that trap is strong considering your track conditions similar to mine yesterday

Thanks Loe. You guys make me feel slow, but in reality it's a good time. Looking at the lists, there are not a lot of faster single pulley cars in those conditions. For reference, car #520 was andthen, who has run an 11.4, and has posted the 3rd or 4th best time. He did run an [email protected] yesterday too.

My first pass could have been even better as IAT's were great, but the map was still adapting and timing was lower than the above pass. I also spun like crazy, and cut a 1.82 60'. If I could have hit the 28 degrees timing, and 1.7 60' of the above pass, with the IAT's of my first pass, I think it had an 11.5-11.6 in it.

[jran76]

Ah okay that makes sense. I thought maybe you were trying something new that I didn't know about. That's a great time for a single pulley in 700 DA.

Thanks. It's worth mentioning that the DA was -700 when we got there at 9am. They didn't start running until 11am, and we sat in the staging lanes for 3 hours until we made those passes at 2pm. By then the DA had jumped up to +600 to 800. I would have loved to make a pass in those -700 conditions (sun was out too).

[cspcrx]

great run! your setup is so similar to mine it gives me hope. Problem is here we are lucky if we get a DA that is lower than 1500.

[FLYINGLEGGS]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/5bcea97151de3f2a4b01ea5154ce66aa.jpg

Got a little better time Sunday. I was only able to get ONE run in but I met my goal of breaking into the 11s on stage 1 93 octane.
11.990 @ 113 mph

APR Stage 1
93 octane file
95 octane fuel
APR tcu tune
Roc Uro intake.
Everything else is stock.
Temp. 66
DA 420

[13ttaz]

^^^ Fantastic showing for a Stage 1 vehicle!

[Loe]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/5bcea97151de3f2a4b01ea5154ce66aa.jpg

Got a little better time Sunday.
11.990 @ 113 mph

APR Stage 1
93 octane file
93 octane fuel
APR tcu tune
Roc Uro intake.
Everything else is stock.
Temp. 66
DA 350

Will get you added. Also, Jorge V's GPS-based app kept telling us it was closer to 600 D/A's around that time, so I'll add the time with that D/A.

[FLYINGLEGGS]

I actually saw 420 da. I was just being conservative. I'll edit.

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[cobrario]

Congrats! That must be a blazing fast track or your rig is a freak to turn 11... on 93 file stage one- and at 114 mph.

[FLYINGLEGGS]

Congrats! That must be a blazing fast track or your rig is a freak to turn 11... on 93 file stage one- and at 114 mph.

Thanks!
And it was my only run of the day. Don't know if I could have run faster but I would have liked to have gotten another shot at it.
We have a bunch of stage 2/tcu S4 guys that run between 11.8 and 12.3 here so its an average speed track so to speak. This car has just always been slightly below the average range per mod.
It ran a 13.0 stock, a 12.5 with Stage 1 93, a 12.0 with the TCU tune and then a slightly lower da got me an 11.9.

I will be back at the track if they ever finish up the program switching for our cars.

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[Loe]

Thanks!
And it was my only run of the day. Don't know if I could have run faster but I would have liked to have gotten another shot at it.
We have a bunch of stage 2/tcu S4 guys that run between 11.8 and 12.3 here so its an average speed track so to speak. This car has just always been slightly below the average range per mod.
It ran a 13.0 stock, a 12.5 with Stage 1 93, a 12.0 with the TCU tune and then a slightly lower da got me an 11.9.

I will be back at the track if they ever finish up the program switching for our cars.

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Nah Kev, we just have really good launch skills with our right leggggs. I ran 11.487 stage 2 at that track lol. ASOT track rental Feb 20th...heck yes...

[cobrario]

Thanks!
And it was my only run of the day. Don't know if I could have run faster but I would have liked to have gotten another shot at it.
We have a bunch of stage 2/tcu S4 guys that run between 11.8 and 12.3 here so its an average speed track so to speak. This car has just always been slightly below the average range per mod.
It ran a 13.0 stock, a 12.5 with Stage 1 93, a 12.0 with the TCU tune and then a slightly lower da got me an 11.9.

I will be back at the track if they ever finish up the program switching for our cars.

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Out of curiosity what MPH did you pick up with the TCU?

[DBFL]

Nah Kev, we just have really good launch skills with our right leggggs. I ran 11.487 stage 2 at that track lol. ASOT track rental Feb 20th...heck yes...

Loe, it's the 12th of February.

[Johann@Carbnlab]

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Got a little better time Sunday. I was only able to get ONE run in but I met my goal of breaking into the 11s on stage 1 93 octane.
11.990 @ 113 mph

APR Stage 1
93 octane file
95 octane fuel
APR tcu tune
Roc Uro intake.
Everything else is stock.
Temp. 66
DA 420
Wow!! Impressive

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[FLYINGLEGGS]

Out of curiosity what MPH did you pick up with the TCU?
You can check my details on Arin's 1/4 mile sheet. But i think i picked up about 4 mph

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[jran76]

great run! your setup is so similar to mine it gives me hope. Problem is here we are lucky if we get a DA that is lower than 1500.

We have maybe a couple open track days where the DA is below 1500-2000. In a 1500+ DA, my car is at least a couple tenths slower.

[stereojorge]

Loe, it's the 12th of February.

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[2871rgti]

Nice


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[NavM]

My best time with dual pulley set up and stacked CW 3-1 was 11.61 @ 117.78 on 93 octane mixed with 3 gallons of E85. For comparison, same day, my best time without CW was 11.71 @ 117.43. Mods are listed below with stock air box + AFE filter and x-pipe exhaust mod. All season Continentals with 30K miles on them, lol (great tires) cutting 1.6 60' all day. I was using "Primetime" upswing method launching right before 4K. Temperature was in mid 60s and DA in the 800s. I feel my car can run slightly faster in more ideal track conditions. CW has since been sold and now waiting patiently for the ultracharger.

Member CraigAudiS4 got my 11.6 run on video (posted below ) and was kind enough to put together a video of his stock S4 and my car around 1:00 min.

Member name: NavM
Model: 2013 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: 93 Octane
Fuel: 93 (13 gallons) mixed with 3 gallons E85 earlier in the week (fuel gauge showing 1/4 left)
S/C pulley: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley: JHM 179 mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.099
D/A: 800s
Date: 11/19/2016 at Maryland Internal Raceway

Timeslip (APR stage 2 with stacked CW 3-1):

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag113/navidrhm/Audi/fullsizeoutput_260_zpsukmzjf4s.jpeg

Timeslips (APR stage 2 without CW):

http://i1301.photobucket.com/albums/ag113/navidrhm/Audi/IMG_2085_zpsuqdcrsm5.jpg

Video of 11.6 run (~1:05) courtesy of CraigAudiS4:

https://youtu.be/DKd6SkOcojk

[Loe]

great times! especially for that pump file at that DA! I'll get you added

stock cooling?

[abamfo]

Great time, that is what I hope to achieve in a few weeks with similar setup!

Loe and others, when you refer to the "race" file does that mean the 104 file?? Because my APR dealer mentioned that there is both a 100 (RON 104) and 104 (RON 108) file available for my B8.5

[FLYINGLEGGS]

Race is usually 104 octane.
Just get ms109 (104 octane)

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[abamfo]

Race is usually 104 octane.
Just get ms109 (104 octane)

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It is so expensive though, $80 for 20L. With E85 cheaper than 93 gas it makes more sense to do a blend and try a 100-octane file (not the "race" file).

[FLYINGLEGGS]

It is so expensive though, $80 for 20L. With E85 cheaper than 93 gas it makes more sense to do a blend and try a 100-octane file (not the "race" file).
Gotta pay to play homie. And i will take pure oxygenated non-ethanol precisely mixed fuel over some estimated mix of corn syrup and gas station gas every time. #respecttheracecar

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[DBFL]

Race is usually 104 octane.
Just get ms109 (104 octane)

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The GIAC race file will do 100 and 104. It detects what you are using and adapts. That's why you have to drive 30-60 miles when you switch between files.
And ms109 is 105 octane. That's what I was told by the guy at McMullen Oil when I bought it.

[NavM]

great times! especially for that pump file at that DA! I'll get you added

stock cooling?

Thanks. I forgot about cooling. I have AWE heat exchanger. I wish I had the full set up though.

[FLYINGLEGGS]

The GIAC race file will do 100 and 104. It detects what you are using and adapts. That's why you have to drive 30-60 miles when you switch between files.
And ms109 is 105 octane. That's what I was told by the guy at McMullen Oil when I bought it.

I was referring to APR.

But you dont need nearly that many miles for adaption.

[DBFL]

I was referring to APR.

But you dont need nearly that many miles for adaption.

Gotcha.
And that's what Evan told me about the adaptation when he flashed my car.

[abamfo]

The GIAC race file will do 100 and 104. It detects what you are using and adapts. That's why you have to drive 30-60 miles when you switch between files.
And ms109 is 105 octane. That's what I was told by the guy at McMullen Oil when I bought it.

That's such a better system. APR simply has two files that each cost $175 each (that's Australian anyway)

Also I bought a 20L container of race E98 which has an octane rating of 112/115. Does anyone know what the highest percentage of ethanol you can run is if you upgrade the HPFP from autotech running a race file with dual pulley?

[whiped]

That's such a better system. APR simply has two files that each cost $175 each (that's Australian anyway)

Also I bought a 20L container of race E98 which has an octane rating of 112/115. Does anyone know what the highest percentage of ethanol you can run is if you upgrade the HPFP from autotech running a race file with dual pulley?

Depends on the tune. You will probably need to dilute it some with pump gas.

[Q5OnTheMove]

The GIAC race file will do 100 and 104. It detects what you are using and adapts. That's why you have to drive 30-60 miles when you switch between files.
And ms109 is 105 octane. That's what I was told by the guy at McMullen Oil when I bought it.


He is right. here (http://www.vpracingfuels.com/page499474.html) is the data spec on it.


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[Loe]

all times updated.

[doug97gxe]

Gotta pay to play homie. And i will take pure oxygenated non-ethanol precisely mixed fuel over some estimated mix of corn syrup and gas station gas every time. #respecttheracecar

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Not exactly pure I think it has lead in it


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[FLYINGLEGGS]

Not exactly pure I think it has lead in it


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Nope. It is unleaded, non-ethanol and oxygenated. You could practically drink it. :)

[doug97gxe]

Nope. It is unleaded and oxygenated.

Ahhhh times have changed .. years ago when I used to go to E-Town race gas had lead in it


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[FLYINGLEGGS]

That's such a better system. APR simply has two files that each cost $175 each (that's Australian anyway)

Also I bought a 20L container of race E98 which has an octane rating of 112/115. Does anyone know what the highest percentage of ethanol you can run is if you upgrade the HPFP from autotech running a race file with dual pulley?
In the US APR has 3 files to toggle between in addition to valet mode and stock. Their app allows for code reading and error clearing as well. Pretty bad ass and quite superior.
BUT.......APRs downfall is that it only works on the B8. The B8.5 has a smaller ecu and doesn't have room for APRs large files. Hopefully they will make it work.

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[13ttaz]

The B8.5 has a smaller ecu and doesn't have room for APRs large files. Hopefully they will make it work. Audizine mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)

IIRC, APR has indicated it is for precisely this reason that B8.5 owners should not expect file switching capability with their files, even in the future. Which is frustrating given that other B8.5 ECU tuners are able to do to this with their files, e.g. GIAC and REVO. Perhaps APRs files really are too large.