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[abamfo]

IIRC, APR has indicated it is for precisely this reason that B8.5 owners should not expect file switching capability with their files, even in the future. Which is frustrating given that other B8.5 ECU tuners are able to do to this with their files, e.g. GIAC and REVO. Perhaps APRs files really are too large.

Is this 100% confirmed that you can't switch on b8.5s?? My dealer said that he had the option of putting on another switchable file when they flashed the 93 file on my car (European 98 to be more precise)... think I might swing by PAW today to see if this is true or not

[FLYINGLEGGS]

Yep

[FLYINGLEGGS]

Is this 100% confirmed that you can't switch on b8.5s?? My dealer said that he had the option of putting on another switchable file when they flashed the 93 file on my car (European 98 to be more precise)... think I might swing by PAW today to see if this is true or not
Yes, reread my original post. It is factual. Or you can read ttaz's where he repeated everything i said. Lol.

[abamfo]

Yes, reread my original post. It is factual. Or you can read ttaz's where he repeated everything i said. Lol.

Righteeo then, that sucks. I don't understand why the rs3 can have a switchable file but the s5 can't, surely the files are of a similar size.

Looks like I'll just get the 100 file and run e85 to ring in the ignition correction.

[chrisucf99]

We can add the 11.858 to the spreadsheet. This was a week ago... 11/18

Same hardware/tune setup as my previous runs (APR Stage II) that are noted in the spreadsheet. Weather was in the 60's this time :)

http://www.cloudyip.net/images/11.8-1.jpg

http://www.cloudyip.net/images/11.8-2.jpg

[13ttaz]

Yes, reread my original post. It is factual. Or you can read ttaz's where he repeated everything i said. Lol.

Not quite ... I was pointing out that you need not be hopeful as APR has indicated that they won't be making file switching available for the B8.5 ECU . . . .[rolleyes]

[FLYINGLEGGS]

Not quite ... I was pointing out that you need not be hopeful as APR has indicated that they won't be making file switching available for the B8.5 ECU . . . .[rolleyes]
Show me where they have ever indicated that "they will not have program switching for the b8.5".
Not gonna happen. I know for a fact that they are still working on it. Now that facts have been listed and eyerolling has childishly been completed, lets get back on topic.

[cobrario]

Wow - I was not aware of that and have been waiting for the UC drop to make the switch to APR- so if you have a facelift car you load one static file and if you want another you would have to what, go to dealer for them to switch out the file?

[Loe]

Wow - I was not aware of that and have been waiting for the UC drop to make the switch to APR- so if you have a facelift car you load one static file and if you want another you would have to what, go to dealer for them to switch out the file?

Correct (at least for now until they, and if they do, release a switcher), however from logging a few stage 2 APR 93 pump file cars, it will perform strong when given the right octane + ambient conditions. They hold the recent stage 2 pump file record at 11.5x, the pump file's timing targets aren't too far off the 100 octane race file's (but the curve is slightly different favoring the race file).

with that being said (and I know its going off-topic, but oh well lol), I've never understood the argument to dump APR for <insert brand here> for file switching on the B8.5, when if you log, you'll see the pump map when given the opportunity will exceed or be near race file levels (depending on tune brand), and someone finally was able to exploit this by running that 11.5x

[Loe]

We can add the 11.858 to the spreadsheet. This was a week ago... 11/18

Same hardware/tune setup as my previous runs (APR Stage II) that are noted in the spreadsheet. Weather was in the 60's this time :)

http://www.cloudyip.net/images/11.8-1.jpg

http://www.cloudyip.net/images/11.8-2.jpg

adding now! Planning on heading to Orlando Speedway Sunday Dec 18th myself...one last glory run before the 2016 season ends! [:D]

[abamfo]

Correct (at least for now until they, and if they do, release a switcher), however from logging a few stage 2 APR 93 pump file cars, it will perform strong when given the right octane + ambient conditions. They hold the recent stage 2 pump file record at 11.5x, the pump file's timing targets aren't too far off the 100 octane race file's (but the curve is slightly different favoring the race file).

with that being said (and I know its goign off-topic, but oh well lol), I've never understood the argument to dump APR for <insert brand here> for file switching on the B8.5, when if you log, you'll see the pump map when given the opportunity will exceed or be near race file levels (depending on tune brand), and someone finally was able to exploit this by running that 11.5x

Loe, I have the MY13 S5 93 stage 2 file and when I mixed in e20 this week and had zero timing pulled, I don't think it was race file levels but I could be wrong. I hit an ignition angle of 20.625* at 7150RPM, ~18.5/19 PSI, bypass valve closed 100% and IATs hitting 60-65* C in IDEAL cold conditions at nightime. I would've thought mid to high 20s would be more race timing targets. That A6 you mentioned running E35, what ignition timing does he hit on a 93 pump file?

[Loe]

Loe, I have the MY13 S5 93 stage 2 file and when I mixed in e20 this week and had zero timing pulled, I don't think it was race file levels but I could be wrong. I hit an ignition angle of 20.625* at 7150RPM, ~18.5/19 PSI, bypass valve closed 100% and IATs hitting 60-65* C in IDEAL cold conditions at nightime. I would've thought mid to high 20s would be more race timing targets. That A6 you mentioned running E35, what ignition timing does he hit on a 93 pump file?

He's on the stage 2 file as well and hits 21* (but his A6 upshifts at 6,400 or so rpm). I've seen some go higher than that at redline. Are you logging across all cylinders for corrections?

[abamfo]

He's on the stage 2 file as well and hits 21* (but his A6 upshifts at 6,400 or so rpm). I've seen some go higher than that at redline. Are you logging across all cylinders for corrections?

Yeah mate... I doubt that the APR Stage II tune would allow better timing than this running 3.2 dual pulley ratio but I would be pleased to know it does... interesting that he hits 21* at 6400, I hit nowhere near there at 6400... what pulley combo is he running?

http://i66.tinypic.com/vxhu87.png

Unfortunately I couldn't get all the other parameters when logging knock for all cylinders but I hit about 19 PSI

[Loe]

APR 57.75/JHM 179
PR 3.0995

Let me reach out to him to send me logs on his laptop.

[doug97gxe]

I wouldn't hold my breath on the program switching .. they have the 2.0T stage 3 kit to finish the 3.0T ultra charger kit to finish .. B9 A' Stage 2 tunes to develop and already started on the B9 S4.. also Arin pretty much said the switching is a dead deal and low low priority


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[abamfo]

APR 57.75/JHM 179
PR 3.0995

Let me reach out to him to send me logs on his laptop.

Sweet, well the CTS/Fluidampr combo is slightly more aggressive... requested manifold pressure is 2300 (19 PSI) and I'm hitting it at redline sometimes, so I'm right on the limit of what the APR pump file supports for a dual pulley combo

Would be interested to see what bluesky timing others have logged for APR Stage II 93 file

EDIT: either way this is probably the wrong thread for this discussion

[FLYINGLEGGS]

I agree. We can get very bogged down on the subject.

Also Loe, APR has the stage 1 93 octane record also :)

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[abamfo]

Interesting.. if you run a Stage II 93 file with a dual pulley and you mix in ethanol, does that count as Stage II 93 for record purposes?

[Loe]

Interesting.. if you run a Stage II 93 file with a dual pulley and you mix in ethanol, does that count as Stage II 93 for record purposes?

I would still place it under stage 2 "+" ...its getting hard to decipher all of these new mods lol.

[cobrario]

Loe - check AR for Ron's recent divulging of his fall passes- didn't eclipse your record, barely ;), but some really strong ET and traps there.

[Loe]

Added, his traps are impressive for 1197ft D/A's, definitely shows potential in lower D/A's. Scratch that, it's an impressive trap regardlesd of D/A. I'm still below that trap despite running in lower D/A's. Definitely can't wait to see what I can churn up as soon as I can get my boost bleed under control to see if I can dive into the 123.xx mph zone.

[KnewJack]

Went to track today which may be the last of the season depending on weather.

Member name: KnewJack
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.100
D/A: -942
Date: 12/04/2016
Timeslip: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i47/Chief_oneup/S4%20New%20Best%2012-4_1.jpeg
60ft: 1.628
330ft: 4.877
1/8 et: 7.554
1/8 mph: 91.58
1000ft: 9.848
1/4 et: 11.795
1/4 mph: 117.04

Was hoping for more after installing the 179mm yesterday (which was a piece of cake BTW). I really think I could have run this time without it as my MPH is only .1 higher than my previous best. I need to log to see if boost is bleeding up top. Mid range and low end pull feel stronger though. Track was cold and I spun though most of my runs with a 1.988 being my worst 60ft. EPC light came on during my last run, which was an 11.81@117, right before the 1000ft mark triggering limp mode. Misfire cylinder #6 was the culprit. Maybe need some new plugs or check gap since these are the original plugs.

[Loe]

Great 60ft time! At that D/A you may have been bleeding here and there. Your delta is near "race" file zone at 25.xx mph, just keep at it. If you are bleeding, you may actually run a better time in higher D/A.

That EPC light may have signified that your car wasnt peforming optimally on all of your runs, it just exceeded that threshold on the last run. Definitely look into that and get back to the track.

[chrisucf99]

Member name: chrisucf99
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.100
D/A: +80

Car on the right (spun through first gear off the line):

http://www.cloudyip.net/images/117.jpg

[613B6]

Added, his traps are impressive for 1197ft D/A's, definitely shows potential in lower D/A's. Scratch that, it's an impressive trap regardlesd of D/A. I'm still below that trap despite running in lower D/A's. Definitely can't wait to see what I can churn up as soon as I can get my boost bleed under control to see if I can dive into the 123.xx mph zone.

Highly impressive for sure, those traps don't lie especially in the DA he ran. We like to bash APR on their time frames but you cant deny that showing, their offering is making some serious jam.

Looking like APR and GIAC still holding it down year after year.

[Loe]

all times updated. One of these days I will trap above 123.xx mph lol, one of these days. Once my car is back and ready (the driver side cat is about 50% fully clogged, 30% partially clogged, and the remaining more than likely would have been in process as well...dislodged/dislocated, its a mess!) I'll be back at it again, the last two months my drivers side ignition correction value's were higher than the passenger side (but inconsistently so), so this should cure it and hopefully cure the bypass I experienced as well.

[BDP]

all times updated. One of these days I will trap above 123.xx mph lol, one of these days. Once my car is back and ready (the driver side cat is about 50% clogged...dislodged/dislocated, its a mess!) I'll be back at it again.

Did you throw any codes? What were your symptoms? Just curious because I suspect that I may have a cat that is starting to go...maybe both.

*Saw your update* Outside of logs were there any other signs? My exhaust note started to sound different and the car feels down on power.

[613B6]

You going with JHM's highflows or test pipes Loe? I feel that the big pulley levels a highflow or test pipe should yield some additional MPH's. Which I know didn't do much on stage 2 cars, I think in the DP crowd with all supporting mods it benefit more.

[whiped]

You going with JHM's highflows or test pipes Loe? I feel that the big pulley levels a highflow or test pipe should yield some additional MPH's. Which I know didn't do much on stage 2 cars, I think in the DP crowd with all supporting mods it benefit more.

APR reported decent gains with test pipes and headers. Can't remember the exact figures nor can we really trust them. [rolleyes]

[Loe]

Did you throw any codes? What were your symptoms? Just curious because I suspect that I may have a cat that is starting to go...maybe both.

*Saw your update* Outside of logs were there any other signs? My exhaust note started to sound different and the car feels down on power.

My exhaust note got more raspy. I didn't have the platinum coated tips like some have got on here when their cats failed (but theirs were bricked and fell completely apart).

[Loe]

You going with JHM's highflows or test pipes Loe? I feel that the big pulley levels a highflow or test pipe should yield some additional MPH's. Which I know didn't do much on stage 2 cars, I think in the DP crowd with all supporting mods it benefit more.

I would think it would, but there isn't enough data out there yet. I know APR was going to release some interesting data surrounding it, but my take on it is that the OEM's flow well enough to run some serious times, but I'm sure could benefit from a HFC or test-pipe set-up once you are dual-pulley, but not significant enough to purchase replacement units if your OEM's are running well.


APR reported decent gains with test pipes and headers. Can't remember the exact figures nor can we really trust them. [rolleyes]

I know Ron (aka primetime) runs 034 motorsports HFC, hopefully they can release some great data.

[613B6]

I would think it would, but there isn't enough data out there yet. I know APR was going to release some interesting data surrounding it, but my take on it is that the OEM's flow well enough to run some serious times, but I'm sure could benefit from a HFC or test-pipe set-up once you are dual-pulley, but not significant enough to purchase replacement units if your OEM's are running well.



I know Ron (aka primetime) runs 034 motorsports HFC, hopefully they can release some great data.

With that mentality, you would have never gone above 179mm or killer chiller, you ran serious times without those...just saying :P At this point, we extracting ounces.

[redlinerex]

Hi Loe,

Went Stg2 a couple weeks back with a FD 183mm crank pulley. Made a few passes today, best one noted below. Not sure what is up with the date and time stamps ... they're about 25hrs ahead:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: OEM
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: E85
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: -318
Date: 12/31/2016
Timeslip:http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2016-12-31_18_30_52_212x640_.jpg
60ft: 1.849
330ft: 5.136
1/8 et: 7.841
1/8 mph: 91.01
1000ft: 10.169
1/4 et: 12.122
1/4 mph: 115.15

[doug97gxe]

Hi Loe,

Went Stg2 a couple weeks back with a FD 183mm crank pulley. Made a few passes today, best one noted below. Not sure what is up with the date and time stamps ... they're about 25hrs ahead:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: OEM
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: E85
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: -318
Date: 12/31/2016
Timeslip:http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2016-12-31_18_30_52_212x640_.jpg
60ft: 1.849
330ft: 5.136
1/8 et: 7.841
1/8 mph: 91.01
1000ft: 10.169
1/4 et: 12.122
1/4 mph: 115.15

Left lane had to be on slicks or DR's


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[redlinerex]

Left lane had to be on slicks or DR's


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I don't remember what I was racing ... definitely on big slicks though. Got my ass handed to me several times. Big event there tomorrow so the fast dragsters were out in force. Humiliated a bunch of the street cars.

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[doug97gxe]

I don't remember what I was racing ... definitely on big slicks though. Got my ass handed to me several times. Big event there tomorrow so the fast dragsters were out in force. Humiliated a bunch of the street cars.

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I guessed based on that 1.4 60 foot


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[derek.kritz]

Hi Loe,

Went Stg2 a couple weeks back with a FD 183mm crank pulley. Made a few passes today, best one noted below. Not sure what is up with the date and time stamps ... they're about 25hrs ahead:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: OEM
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: E85
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: -318
Date: 12/31/2016
Timeslip:http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2016-12-31_18_30_52_212x640_.jpg
60ft: 1.849
330ft: 5.136
1/8 et: 7.841
1/8 mph: 91.01
1000ft: 10.169
1/4 et: 12.122
1/4 mph: 115.15

Nice time. Bring that 60' time down a bit and you'll be really talking. [emoji1360][emoji1360]


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[scmtkings4]

Hi Loe,

Went Stg2 a couple weeks back with a FD 183mm crank pulley. Made a few passes today, best one noted below. Not sure what is up with the date and time stamps ... they're about 25hrs ahead:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: OEM
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: E85
Fuel: E85
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: -318
Date: 12/31/2016
Timeslip:http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2016-12-31_18_30_52_212x640_.jpg
60ft: 1.849
330ft: 5.136
1/8 et: 7.841
1/8 mph: 91.01
1000ft: 10.169
1/4 et: 12.122
1/4 mph: 115.15
That time and trap is pretty good considering you are on stock ecu tune. You're missing out on a little since your car is shifting early at 6200ish. Leaving some power on the table!

Btw, whats the pulley ratio for stock crank pulley and 57mm supercharger pulley?


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[redlinerex]

That time and trap is pretty good considering you are on stock ecu tune. You're missing out on a little since your car is shifting early at 6200ish. Leaving some power on the table!

Btw, whats the pulley ratio for stock crank pulley and 57mm supercharger pulley?


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Thanks man. I think you meant stock tcu, not ecu. The stock tcu shift point is somewhere around 6800 for the b8. I agree, upping the shift points to 7200 should knock off a few tenths even with my subpar 60ft times.

Check out post one of this thread for Loe's table of pulley ratios. Varies slightly between sc pulley brands.

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[bhvrdr]

Hi Loe. Thanks for already putting my Uni timeslip up with the S4. Here is the best I got when I was running the CW on the S4. I'll get you some this month for the S5.

Member name: bhvrdr
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: Stock
ECU Tune: Chipwerke S Piggy
Stage: 2
File: N/A
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: Stock
Pulley Ratio: ~2.84
D/A: +305 feet
Date: 01/20/2016
Timeslip: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/IMG_20160120_214257_zpsznykcyzr.jpg
60ft: 1.731
330ft: 5.046
1/8 et: 7.773
1/8 mph: 90.01
1000ft: 10.131
1/4 et: 12.128
1/4 mph: 113.01

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/IMG_20160120_214257_zpsznykcyzr.jpg

[13jfp]

This car could use a 50-75 shot on the big end. Has anybody tried running a 24" drag radial? I think this would gain 0.2-0.3 et...provided the car hooks well. The drop in circumference would really help. Thoughts? What tire does everybody use?

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[KnewJack]

I have been studying peoples time slips. This car 60' s nice, 330 and 1/8 times are badass with stage 2. 4 th gear with the dsg is just a tad off to maximize times (car could use a 50-75 shot on the big end). Has anybody tried runing a 245/35 18" tire? I think this would gain at least 0.2 et...provided car hooks well. 3" drop in circumference would really help. If the guys with the raised limiter could somehow fit a 24" drag radial tire on the car.....that's 10.X s on a dual pulley setup.

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I've never heard of anyone running N2O on this car and not sure why. A 30-50 shot would be enough for a high 10 if you are already in the low 11's. only time I heard of the use of slicks or drag radials was on the apr car with the upgraded supercharger.

[13jfp]

If I remember correctly I ran 275/40 17s nitto NT05s and then 555s on my blown mustang. Great summer tires, hooked without a burnout, ran small so it was like going from 3.73s to 3.90s. Just have to look at revs per mile in the specs. Somebody looking to break into the tens should try the Nittos, they have even better stuff out now. I see at least 0.1 or 0.2 left in peoples 60 foot times, and the smaller tire will yield 0.1 or 0.2 by hopefully getting u to the line at redline in 4th gear

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[13jfp]

Looks like Nitto 255/35 18s would work...rolling circumference is probably around 74-75 inches if they run small.

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[13jfp]

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[KnewJack]

If I remember correctly I ran 275/40 17s nitto NT05s and then 555s on my blown mustang. Great summer tires, hooked without a burnout, ran small so it was like going from 3.55s to 3.73s. Just have to look at revs per mile in the specs. Somebody looking to break into the tens should try the Nittos, they have even better stuff out now. I see at least 0.1 or 0.2 left in peoples 60 foot times, and the smaller tire will yield 0.1 or 0.2 by hopefully getting u to the line at redline in 4th gear

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I don't see these cars cutting a 1.4x at current power levels, plus they are heavy. My personal best 60 is 1.62, best I've seen was a 1.58 I think.

[13jfp]

I don't see these cars cutting a 1.4x at current power levels, plus they are heavy. My personal best 60 is 1.62, best I've seen was a 1.58 I think.
What tires do u run, pressure,launch style,rpm?

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[13jfp]

Light 18" wheels (around 18lbs or less), lightweight rotors, with a short tire (24.5"). Anybody running this?

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[Loe]

Thanks everyone for their recent contribution, i'll get you all added soon!

Mike, check out the weather on Sunday for Orlando, FL (48 low / 63 high)! I'm going to make that 2.5hr trek to run on their Runday-Sunday since my local track is closed until the following Saturday (which is predicted to be low 56, high 76, perfect weather for morning test-n-tune!). Finally some break from this mid-upper 80's "winter" weather this past month [o_o]

[KMoore]

I'm not sure if I am mis-reading a few of the posts but it appears that redlinerex ran as 12.2 at 115mph with a Stage 2 on e85 in a DA of -318 while bhvrdr ran as 12.1 at 113 on a stage 2 pulley and chipwerke on 93.

it seems pretty consistent but I would have thought the e85 would have run a stronger time.

Makes we also wonder how loe and others are running 11.2-11.5, does the upgrade crank pulley offer that much of a increase?

[doug97gxe]

I'm not sure if I am mis-reading a few of the posts but it appears that redlinerex ran as 12.2 at 115mph with a Stage 2 on e85 in a DA of -318 while bhvrdr ran as 12.1 at 113 on a stage 2 pulley and chipwerke on 93.

it seems pretty consistent but I would have thought the e85 would have run a stronger time.

Makes we also wonder how loe and others are running 11.2-11.5, does the upgrade crank pulley offer that much of a increase?

2 things I notice here.. redlinerex isn't all the way dual Pulley because he has a stock SC Pulley .. also any ECU tune e85 or not will adjust for too much timing or heat and the CW will not


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[bhvrdr]

2 things I notice here.. redlinerex isn't all the way dual Pulley because he has a stock SC Pulley .. also any ECU tune e85 or not will adjust for too much timing or heat and the CW will not


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? With the chipwerke on you definitely get the factory iat readings and timing pull based on it. Same for the knock sensors. Even bypass valve opening if there is too much knock. See the 91 octane guys logs. With actual e85 you shouldnt be seeing knock or the bypass opening. E85 is arguably better at preventing knock than ms109

Mike

[doug97gxe]

? With the chipwerke on you definitely get the factory iat readings and timing pull based on it. Even bypass valve opening if there is too much knock. See the 91 octane guys logs. With actual e85 you shouldnt be seeing knock or the bypass opening. E85 is arguably better at preventing knock than ms109

Mike

i was under the impression the CW / Piggybacks will let you boost as much as possible vs tunes will dial back boost at any point it see's an issue

[bhvrdr]

i was under the impression the CW / Piggybacks will let you boost as much as possible vs tunes will dial back boost at any point it see's an issue

I think that's just part of misinformation that people spread. If you look at the logs that's not the case even in the slightest. All chip work does it make the car see less boost than it is actually making. It plugs into only the boost sensor. It does not manipulate the knock sensors in any way. it does not manipulate the intake air temperature sensors in any way. The factory ECU strategy for protecting the engine stays in place. If anything people with lower octane don't benefit as much with the chip work because the factory ECU is trying to run the factory timing and the car is going to see this as too much and pulls back too much timing and the bypass opens. This is what the guys from California were seeing a lot.

The chip work will allow you to keep the bypass closed and make maximum boost but only as long as all of the other Factory sensors are happy. You have to be running enough octane. Any good ECU tune should be able to accomplish at least this and then also run timing tables that are specific to the type of fuel they have tuned for and boost they have tuned for.

[doug97gxe]

I think that's just part of misinformation that people spread. If you look at the logs that's not the case even in the slightest. All chip work does it make the car see less boost than it is actually making. It plugs into only the boost sensor. It does not manipulate the knock sensors in any way. it does not manipulate the intake air temperature sensors in any way. The factory ECU strategy for protecting the engine stays in place. If anything people with lower octane don't benefit as much with the chip work because the factory ECU is trying to run the factory timing and the car is going to see this as too much and pulls back too much timing and the bypass opens. This is what the guys from California were seeing a lot.

The chip work will allow you to keep the bypass closed and make maximum boost but only as long as all of the other Factory sensors are happy. You have to be running enough octane. Any good ECU tune should be able to accomplish at least this and then also run timing tables that are specific to the type of fuel they have tuned for and boost they have tuned for.

but the CW does have the ability to allow the car to make more boost than a true ECU tune will though right?

[bhvrdr]

but the CW does have the ability to allow the car to make more boost than a true ECU tune will though right?

Not at all. These are positive displacement supercharger. The amount of boost the car can make is based upon the pulley ratio. That is what spins the supercharger. A good ECU tune can keep the bypass valve closed and get full Boost. Chip work can do that also as long as you have enough octane for the stock timing profile. With an aftermarket tune you can create whatever time in profile you want.

[doug97gxe]

Not at all. These are positive displacement supercharger. The amount of boost the car can make is based upon the pulley ratio. That is what spins the supercharger. A good ECU tune can keep the bypass valve closed and get full Boost. Chip work can do that also as long as you have enough octane for the stock timing profile. With an aftermarket tune you can create whatever time in profile you want.

ahhhh .. though i feel if both pulley's can handle 20 PSI of boost the CW will get you there quicker than a reg tune

[bhvrdr]

ahhhh .. though i feel if both pulley's can handle 20 PSI of boost the CW will get you there quicker than a reg tune

There is no 'quicker.' These are pd superchargers. If the tune is set for the boost that your pulley ratio can give than you are going to get there as,quick as the mechanics of the car and computing power of the ecu will allow...same as the cw although its possible the computing power of the cw is slightly slower than the factory ecu.

The only reason some dual pulley people including myself stack cw on a stage 2 tune is because we dont have the right tune for dual pulley ratios. Folks running actual dual pulley tunes would get no benefit at all stacking cw on it.
Mike

[doug97gxe]

There is no 'quicker.' These are pd superchargers. If the tune is set for the boost that your pulley ratio can give than you are going to get there as,quick as the mechanics of the car and computing power of the ecu will allow...same as the cw although its possible the computing power of the cw is slightly slower than the factory ecu.

The only reason some dual pulley people including myself stack cw on a stage 2 tune is because we dont have the right tune for dual pulley ratios. Folks running actual dual pulley tunes would get no benefit at all stacking cw on it.
Mike

Quicker not by time I should said easier


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[KnewJack]

What tires do u run, pressure,launch style,rpm?

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I run it like I drive it to the track. On the stock 19in wheels and 38-40psi. I've tried as low as 30psi and no difference in 60ft and a slight drop in trap speed. I think the B8's have a shorter gear ratio which may give them a slight advantage in the short times and 1/8th. I launch using the "upswing" method. Best I've managed using LC at various rpms is a 1.68. I would imagine if you could dead hook with LC at 5Krpm you could net a better 60ft, but I would fear for the drive line.

[13jfp]

I run it like I drive it to the track. On the stock 19in wheels and 38-40psi. I've tried as low as 30psi and no difference in 60ft and a slight drop in trap speed. I think the B8's have a shorter gear ratio which may give them a slight advantage in the short times and 1/8th. I launch using the "upswing" method. Best I've managed using LC at various rpms is a 1.68. I would imagine if you could dead hook with LC at 5Krpm you could net a better 60ft, but I would fear for the drive line.
Yeah I hear ya...don't need to break stuff launching hard. I did a little reading and just lightweight wheels and drag radials will take around 40 pounds of rotating mass off the car! Plus whatever lightweight rotors would get you. That's a tenth right there for sure. Short tire will get 0.1 or 0.2...that would get Loe a 10.9X if he is on stock 19s

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[Loe]

I run it like I drive it to the track. On the stock 19in wheels and 38-40psi. I've tried as low as 30psi and no difference in 60ft and a slight drop in trap speed. I think the B8's have a shorter gear ratio which may give them a slight advantage in the short times and 1/8th. I launch using the "upswing" method. Best I've managed using LC at various rpms is a 1.68. I would imagine if you could dead hook with LC at 5Krpm you could net a better 60ft, but I would fear for the drive line.

Same on the psi. I run my best with 39psi up front, 38 psi out back. With me though, anything lower ends up with some initial softness in the launch (which I assume is brought on by having more tire compliance from less pressures), so my 60ft's are slightly worse.

[Loe]

I'm not sure if I am mis-reading a few of the posts but it appears that redlinerex ran as 12.2 at 115mph with a Stage 2 on e85 in a DA of -318 while bhvrdr ran as 12.1 at 113 on a stage 2 pulley and chipwerke on 93.

it seems pretty consistent but I would have thought the e85 would have run a stronger time.

Makes we also wonder how loe and others are running 11.2-11.5, does the upgrade crank pulley offer that much of a increase?


On a GIAC stage II file, I went from [email protected] on stage II to [email protected] with just an addition of a 179mm crank + a CW to control the boost; everything else remained the same including fueling. It does make a difference (30-35awhp) for sure, more so in the heart of the power band where you spend most of your time in daily driving.

[KnewJack]

On a GIAC stage II file, I went from [email protected] on stage II to [email protected] with just an addition of a 179mm crank + a CW to control the boost; everything else remained the same including fueling. It does make a difference (30-35awhp) for sure, more so in the heart of the power band where you spend most of your time in daily driving.

The DP setup is crack! Lol. Completely transforms the car especially just everyday driving. Gives it a real aim and squirt character when you're running late and need to get past some traffic.

[bhvrdr]

I'm not sure if I am mis-reading a few of the posts but it appears that redlinerex ran as 12.2 at 115mph with a Stage 2 on e85 in a DA of -318 while bhvrdr ran as 12.1 at 113 on a stage 2 pulley and chipwerke on 93.

it seems pretty consistent but I would have thought the e85 would have run a stronger time.

Makes we also wonder how loe and others are running 11.2-11.5, does the upgrade crank pulley offer that much of a increase?

To add to what Loe was saying, the DP helps but it is not taking the car from 12.1 down to 11.2. There are other variables at play. My 12.1 run on pump gas with a piggy and a B8.5 DSG and Redlinerx Stage 2 12.1 run on e85 with B8 DSG are not record breaking runs by any means. I've run an 11.8x on pump gas on just stage 2 Unitronic and there are folks like Loe who have run mid 11s on stage 2 and e85 as well. Dual pulley may get you another .3 or even a bit more. Tough to compare different cars and different conditions though. There are plenty of stage 2 folks who are running mid 12s and there will be plenty of dual pulley folks who will run low 12s in poorer conditions. Not everyone will run low 11s, particularly in less than ideal conditions.

Mike

[13jfp]

Did some research. Without posting all the numbers it looks like lightweight wheels,rotors and tires will shed around 68 pounds rotating mass. Thats around 0.15 seconds. Cost is around $3000-$3500 though...ouch

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[Dirt]

Where's everyone coming up with these xx lbs of rotating mass = xx seconds formulas? They're very......optimistic. Typically you'll see roughly a .1 second decrease in et for every 100 lbs of weight shed.

[13jfp]

Rule of thumb you are referring to is for dead weight

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[13jfp]

Rotating mass is different. I couldn't find a formula. Just educated estimations from testing done in articles and peoples experiences. General consensus is that 40-50 pounds of rotating mass is equal to a tenth

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[13jfp]

Wheel rpm from 1/8th to 1/4 mile goes from around 1200 rpm to 1700 rpm. So put a 68 pound round object on an axle and spin it from a rest to 1700 rpm....it takes energy...and that is just one component. You have other forces as well. I didn't get scientific, i just googled the topic and read articles and people's experiences.

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[13jfp]

There are established formulas for things like flywheel horsepower seconds, accelerating mass, blah blah blah. I couldn't find one for this specific instance. There is no axle rotating mass to ET calculator that I could find. Just some drag racer rule of thumb stuff. Some physics genius could probably come up with one. I prefer to read what people have seen with real experience.

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[13jfp]

Here is a link http://www.w8ji.com/rotating_mass_acceleration.htm

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[Loe]

It's hard to quantify how much weight is saved beyond the center portion of the rim unfortunately. It's easier to simply stick with a lightweight tire (one of the main reasons I went with PSS's), however even then it didn't make a different in acceleration compared to the heavier OEM Dunlap Sport Maxx GT's that came with my car.

It would be interesting to see if it makes a difference with us, I'm still running on OEM S5 Rotor wheels that weigh 29lbs/ea.

[13jfp]

It's hard to quantify how much weight is saved beyond the center portion of the rim unfortunately. It's easier to simply stick with a lightweight tire (one of the main reasons I went with PSS's), however even then it didn't make a different in acceleration compared to the heavier OEM Dunlap Sport Maxx GT's that came with my car.

It would be interesting to see if it makes a difference with us, I'm still running on OEM S5 Rotor wheels that weigh 29lbs/ea.
I was hoping you were obsessed with setting a low ET record and would buy lightweight 18s (or even figure a way to fit 17s),rotors,etc.....and prove whether or not there is ET to be had there.

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[13jfp]

I mean there is a reason drag racers like 15" weld wheels.

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[13jfp]

It's hard to quantify how much weight is saved beyond the center portion of the rim unfortunately. It's easier to simply stick with a lightweight tire (one of the main reasons I went with PSS's), however even then it didn't make a different in acceleration compared to the heavier OEM Dunlap Sport Maxx GT's that came with my car.

It would be interesting to see if it makes a difference with us, I'm still running on OEM S5 Rotor wheels that weigh 29lbs/ea.
Based on the specs for weight the MPSS change should have yielded around a 0.03 et improvement. It was 4 pounds per tire.

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[KnewJack]

Not much beyond power increases and removing the golf clubs and spare from the trunk has been explored in reducing E.T. with this platform from what I've seen. It's like the old racer adage "Fast with Class"! [:D]

Totally different scenario, but lightweight BST wheels and ceramic bearings were good for about 2mph and .2 on my ZX14 motorcycle at the drag strip. The have even greater gain as the mile events. They carried about 8lbs less RM.

[Loe]

I was hoping you were obsessed with setting a low ET record and would buy lightweight 18s (or even figure a way to fit 17s),rotors,etc.....and prove whether or not there is ET to be had there.

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I am actually more obsessed with making my set-up work for daily driving, and whatever time comes from it is a by-product [cool]

[KnewJack]

I am actually more obsessed with making my set-up work for daily driving, and whatever time comes from it is a by-product [cool]

Amen! This car is really fun on the street. Maybe even moreso than my Mitsu Evo was or my Eagle Talon AWD even though they both made north of 700hp. Nicely balanced even being nose heavy.

[13jfp]

Amen! This car is really fun on the street. Maybe even moreso than my Mitsu Evo was or my Eagle Talon AWD even though they both made north of 700hp. Nicely balanced even being nose heavy.
I totally agree.

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[Dirt]

@jfp

I understand your logic, and I thought the same way at one point. I also had the same challenges finding evidence to support my perspective. Ended up losing $50 in a bet. Lol

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@jfp

I understand your logic, and I thought the same way at one point. I also had the same challenges finding evidence to support my perspective. Ended up losing $50 in a bet. Lol
What was the bet?

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[Loe]

@jfp

I understand your logic, and I thought the same way at one point. I also had the same challenges finding evidence to support my perspective. Ended up losing $50 in a bet. Lol

coming out with us Sunday to Orlando Speedway?

[KnewJack]

coming out with us Sunday to Orlando Speedway?

You southerners and your damn year round race weather! I'm Jealous. I haven't been to the track since all the ones here shut down 1st week in December. Car is running better than my last outing where I ran an 11.79 with the EPC popping on during the run [:D]

[Dirt]

What was the bet?

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The same discussion you and I are having about removing rotating mass vs weight in general, except I was in your shoes and had $50 on it.

[Dirt]

coming out with us Sunday to Orlando Speedway?

That might be a possibility.....my bride's birthday is the next day and I have a few things to prepare.

[DBFL]

You southerners and your damn year round race weather! I'm Jealous. I haven't been to the track since all the ones here shut down 1st week in December. Car is running better than my last outing where I ran an 11.79 with the EPC popping on during the run [:D]

Not quite year round. Just opposite of everyone else. We get some good weather when you are frozen over, but the rest of the time it's 90*+ outside.

[bhvrdr]

Yup. Its nice to be able to go to the track year round but in the far south florida we only get about 6 good weeks a year of record breaking weather (during JAN and FEB). Now during those times we have ridiculously good conditions, but other times its just hot and humid.

Mike

[Loe]

D/A's are predicted to be negative the majority of the day Sunday...so I hope all goes well. My bigger concern is that my PSS's are at 40% (bad timing on my part), and that the temps are cold for summer tires (45-55F).

[neverfastenough]

D/A's are predicted to be negative the majority of the day Sunday...so I hope all goes well. My bigger concern is that my PSS's are at 40% (bad timing on my part), and that the temps are cold for summer tires (45-55F).

Juice the tires.

[DBFL]

Member name: DBFL
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: 6MT
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: Dual Pulley
File: Race
Fuel: MS109 (105 octane)
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: 186mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.23
D/A: +1,600
Date: 01/21/2017
Timeslip: http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb337/DanBarth/2016%20S4/CF1C9992-E14A-4682-80A7-1C2484DD23BE_zpsgeo8qudf.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/DanBarth/media/2016%20S4/CF1C9992-E14A-4682-80A7-1C2484DD23BE_zpsgeo8qudf.jpg.html)
60ft: 1.676
330ft: 4.948
1/8 et: 7.639
1/8 mph: 91.90
1000ft: 9.954
1/4 et: 11.896
1/4 mph: 116.45

[stereojorge]

Member name: DBFL
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: 6MT
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: Dual Pulley
File: Race
Fuel: MS109 (105 octane)
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: 186mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.23
D/A: +1,600
Date: 01/21/2017
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.676
330ft: 4.948
1/8 et: 7.639
1/8 mph: 91.90
1000ft: 9.954
1/4 et: 11.896
1/4 mph: 116.45

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Member name: d.p
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: 6MT
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: MS109 (105 octane)
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: N/A
Pulley Ratio:
D/A: -800
Date: 07/11/2014
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.786
330ft: 5.106
1/8 et: 7.783
1/8 mph: 93.86
1000ft: 10.086
1/4 et: 12.007
1/4 mph: 119.08

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Member name: d.p
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: 6MT
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune: GIAC
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: MS109 (105 octane)
S/C pulley + size: AWE 57.55mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.818
D/A: -800
Date: 07/11/2014
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.786
330ft: 5.106
1/8 et: 7.783
1/8 mph: 93.86
1000ft: 10.086
1/4 et: 12.007
1/4 mph: 119.08

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[Loe]

great representation guys! 6MT too! I'll get you both added sometime this week.

[jfootlong24]

Member name: Jfootlong24
Model: B8.5
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune:GIAC
ECU Tune:GIAC
Stage: 2+
File: Race
Fuel: MS109
S/C pulley:AWE 57.55
Crank pulley: JHM 179
Pulley ratio: 3.11
D/A: +1650
Time slip:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170126/a63b369f5741f09e930e6378905f68f1.jpg
Date: 01/21/2017
60ft: 1.662
330ft: 4.812
1/8et: 7.462
1/8mph: 92.75
1000ft: 9.743
1/4et: 11.673
1/4 mph: 116.80


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[Loe]

I updated everyone.

Chris, Dan, Jorge, I actually split the difference between all of our D/A's since there were like 5 different D/A readings from different sources that day. Fun day boys, hopefully our next track event doesn't end up with such high D/A's, but it was fun nonetheless hanging out with everyone who enjoys the sport.

[bhvrdr]

Member name: bhvrdr
Model: B8.5 S5
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: Unitronic
ECU Tune: Unitronic + CW 3-1
Stage: 2
File: Pump
Fuel: 93
S/C pulley: Stock
Crank Pulley: KI 200mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.17
D/A: +547
Date: 01/27/2017
Timeslip: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bhvrdr/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20170128_104721_zpshv3xjq1w.jpg.html
60ft: 1.646
330ft: 4.569
1/8 et: 7.500
1/8 mph: 91.93
1000ft: 9.796
1/4 et: 11.746
1/4 mph: 115.58

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Member name: jfootlong24
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: GIAC
ECU: GIAC + CW 3-1
Stage: 2
File: Race
Fuel: MS 109
S/C pulley: AWE 57.55
Crank pulley: JHM 179
Pulley ratio: 3.11
D/A: +750
Date: 02/02/17
Timeslip:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170204/53b0c23d2d36c2d76c003b43b114f7aa.jpg
60ft: 1.647
330ft: 4.775
1/8 et: 7.393
1/8 mph: 94.47
1000ft: 9.644
1/4 et: 11.544
1/4 mph: 118.23


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[Loe]

^^ with some room for improvements I might add according to the VCDS logs [up]

all times updated

[jfootlong24]

Member name: jfootlong24
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
ECU: GIAC
TCU: GIAC
Stage: 2+
File: Race
Fuel: MS109
S/C pulley: AWE 57.55
Crank pulley: JHM 179
Pulley ratio:3.11
D/A+500
02/16/17
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60ft:1.610
330ft:4.711
1/8th:7.305
1/8MPH:94.87
1000ft:9.537
1/4et:11.420
1/4MPH:119.84


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[whiped]

Nice run, getting faster [up]

[jfootlong24]

Nice run [up]

Thanks and logs say I was bleeding boost up to 5-7 % each gear at 6k to redline so some room for improvement


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[raudiace4]

Member name: jfootlong24
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
ECU: GIAC
TCU: GIAC
Stage: 2+
File: Race
Fuel: MS109
S/C pulley: AWE 57.55
Crank pulley: JHM 179
Pulley ratio:3.11
D/A+500
02/16/17
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60ft:1.610
330ft:4.711
1/8th:7.305
1/8MPH:94.87
1000ft:9.537
1/4et:11.420
1/4MPH:119.84


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Is this with GIAC's dual pulley file or with just their Stage 2 tune?

[KnewJack]

Nice run! Anyone consider N20? Some are getting so close to 10's.

[jfootlong24]

Is this with GIAC's dual pulley file or with just their Stage 2 tune?

DP file for E box code and that's without their LPFP


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[Loe]

Thanks and logs say I was bleeding boost up to 5-7 % each gear at 6k to redline so some room for improvement


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updated to include your latest time. You'll get that bleed resolved in no time, just do what I suggested ;) Also, you had room for improvement with your timing targets too. You'll be trapping those 122+mph in no time once the boost bleed gets resolved [up][up]

[Lensch09]

Uggggggh! I'm getting sick of waiting for a public release of the GIAC DP tune for the B8.5

-DL

[jfootlong24]

updated to include your latest time. You'll get that bleed resolved in no time, just do what I suggested ;) Also, you had room for improvement with your timing targets too. You'll be trapping those 122+mph in no time once the boost bleed gets resolved [up][up]

I hope so ,is there any decent D/A's left for the track


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[JD S4]

Uggggggh! I'm getting sick of waiting for a public release of the GIAC DP tune for the B8.5

-DL

2 weeks

[scmtkings4]

Not many EPL DP representing the list. I might have to change that later this year once I get my crank pulley

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[Loe]

I hope so ,is there any decent D/A's left for the track


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from here out out, possibly. Maybe 1 or 2 days hopefully through April where we may still get a decent D/A. Tonight looks like the D/A's will hover near 1,000ft. I may go out there for giggles to see what I can run.

[cobrario]

from here out out, possibly. Maybe 1 or 2 days hopefully through April where we may still get a decent D/A. Tonight looks like the D/A's will hover near 1,000ft. I may go out there for giggles to see what I can run.

You should buy my wheels & tires Loe, that 50lb weight savings could be a difference maker [;)]

[Loe]

You should buy my wheels & tires Loe, that 50lb weight savings could be a difference maker [;)]

thought about it, but i'll likely be going the "CUV" route this fall with a Macan Turbo and picking up a COBB Accessport. Almost 3 years with the S5, it wasn't meant to be a long-term car for me.

[Loe]

Went out to run tonight, I didn't upload the photo to a server of both the D/A and time slip. Wasn't expecting anything good, D/A's were hovering in the 2400-2600ft all day, humid, mid 80's, low baro due to passing storms, just not the recipe for stellar performance. When I arrived, I was only able to make 2 passes before a storm came through, but it dried up and they re-prepped the track only to slip/slide so I only did a total of three runs. My 1st two were pretty consistent with each other, my last one was 1 tenth higher, but traps were consistent. My time could have been better (boost bleed in 1st + 2nd gears...), with that being said, I may have been able to dip into 11.29-11.33 range once I get it resolved, but that's neither here nor there since it never happened (shoulda/coulda/woulda).

Nonetheless, I felt to need to at least post this as it's more reflective of what others have asked in the past to not just post times in 500 ft. or below density altitudes...

Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
ECU: GIAC
TCU: GIAC
Stage: 2+
File: Race
Fuel: e85/93
S/C pulley: AWE 57.55
Crank pulley: FD 183
Pulley ratio: 3.18
D/A+2060
02/23/2017
60ft:1.614
330ft:4.718
1/8th:7.309
1/8MPH:95.26
1000ft:9.538
1/4et:11.425
1/4MPH:119.71

[jran76]

thought about it, but i'll likely be going the "CUV" route this fall with a Macan Turbo and picking up a COBB Accessport. Almost 3 years with the S5, it wasn't meant to be a long-term car for me.

That'll make Ron happy....

[Loe]

That'll make Ron happy....

We've been speaking via email about it. I'm happy that someone's (him) already doing the leg work for tuning on the COBB access port so I simply just have to plug-n-play, add octane, and enjoy [cool]. Going to join the forums to learn more about them soon, love getting the opportunity to drive my sisters, it sure can handle for a 2-ton thing!

[ntsantos]

Everyone wants more EPL data. Here's my best in my heavy ass A7 on 21" wheels:

Model: 2012 C7 A7
Weight: 4400 lbs!!
Tran: ZF (6400rpm)
ECU: EPL
TCU: N/A
Stage: 2+
File: Race
Fuel: e85/91 (E60)
S/C pulley: AWE 57.55
Crank pulley: FD 194
Pulley ratio: 3.40
D/A-400
02/25/2017
60ft:1.740
330ft:4.988
1/8th:7.677
1/8MPH:91.59
1000ft:9.985
1/4et:11.939
1/4MPH:115.34


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170226/11819ff8668107253c1c6e0be162f674.jpg

[bhvrdr]

Nice to be moving out faster than stock S7s im sure :)

Mike

[redlinerex]

Nice consistent pulls. I'll try to make it out Wed to get a Stg2 91 pump tune timeslip.

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[EIAlfonso]

Went yesterday to Texas Motorplex APR Stage 2, no spare, 1/4 tank plus, 93 octane.

First (time slip on left car 395)I screwed up the 2-3 shift, forgot I was in auto (lol) and ended up shifting 3-4 at 5500 RPM's

On my second run (time slip on right) it seemed like the car (DSG-APR) shifted into second rather early at 5,500 RPM's. I thought i read somewhere that this sometimes happens? Is this correct?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/EIAlfonso/31C80617-1885-4DE8-B48E-B5F00327BCA8.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/EIAlfonso/media/31C80617-1885-4DE8-B48E-B5F00327BCA8.jpg.html)

I did one run last year at the same track and ran a 12.12 so it is pretty consistent

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/EIAlfonso/Timeslip%20Ennis%20160220.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/EIAlfonso/media/Timeslip%20Ennis%20160220.jpg.html)




went by the scales and here's what me and the car weighed. I'm just under 200LBS

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/EIAlfonso/FullSizeRender_1.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/EIAlfonso/media/FullSizeRender_1.jpg.html)

[fitzydude]

Thats a nice run for the Motorplex on 93 octane^ let me know the next time you go and I'll join you.

[ntsantos]

Nice consistent pulls. I'll try to make it out Wed to get a Stg2 91 pump tune timeslip.

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I definitely want to try to get out on a Wednesday night. Weather here has been crazy. Yesterday was great, if you look at the time stamps, I was able to hot lap without waiting. I actually got in 6 runs total.

[ntsantos]

Nice to be moving out faster than stock S7s im sure :)

Mike
Very true. I'm going there's a couple tenths more hiding in there.

[fitzydude]

This is from when I had my EPL setup

Model: B8 S4
Tran: 6MT (JHM stg 4 clutch)
ECU: EPL
Stage: 2+
File: Race 104 (topped at 19* could have had it bumped up)
Fuel: 104 (Sunoco gt260)
S/C pulley: CTS 57.02mm
Crank pulley: JHM 179mm
Pulley ratio: 3.139
D/A:1700
10/28/2016
60ft:1.876
330ft:5.277
1/8th:8.039
1/8MPH:89.32
1000ft:10.404
1/4et:12.406
1/4MPH:112.32

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj249/fitzydude/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161028_220104969.jpg

Could have grabbed a better 60', wasn't very excited about that trap speed.

[Hofahome]

This is from when I had my EPL setup

Model: B8 S4
Tran: 6MT (JHM stg 4 clutch)
ECU: EPL
Stage: 2+
File: Race 104 (topped at 19* could have had it bumped up)
Fuel: 104 (Sunoco gt260)
S/C pulley: CTS 57.02mm
Crank pulley: JHM 179mm
Pulley ratio: 3.139
D/A:1700
10/28/2016
60ft:1.876
330ft:5.277
1/8th:8.039
1/8MPH:89.32
1000ft:10.404
1/4et:12.406
1/4MPH:112.32

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj249/fitzydude/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161028_220104969.jpg

Could have grabbed a better 60', wasn't very excited about that trap speed.

Ya, running a race file with your setup really should have gotten much better results. I'd be pissed too.

I hope to get a few runs at Bandimere this spring. Never run a 1/4 mile before so not hoping for much, but I think I can beat out Loe in our 6k+ DA :)

[Lensch09]

This is from when I had my EPL setup

Model: B8 S4
Tran: 6MT (JHM stg 4 clutch)
ECU: EPL
Stage: 2+
File: Race 104 (topped at 19* could have had it bumped up)
Fuel: 104 (Sunoco gt260)
S/C pulley: CTS 57.02mm
Crank pulley: JHM 179mm
Pulley ratio: 3.139
D/A:1700
10/28/2016
60ft:1.876
330ft:5.277
1/8th:8.039
1/8MPH:89.32
1000ft:10.404
1/4et:12.406
1/4MPH:112.32

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj249/fitzydude/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161028_220104969.jpg

Could have grabbed a better 60', wasn't very excited about that trap speed.

What were your IATs and what was the temp outside? Also, where's your rev-limiter set? Do you have a CPS?

6MT cars typically trap 2-4mph lower than DSG cars with similar mods.

[fitzydude]

What were your IATs and what was the temp outside? Also, where's your rev-limiter set? Do you have a CPS?

6MT cars typically trap 2-4mph lower than DSG cars with similar mods.

It was in the 70's and IAT's looked good with my AMS system. Forgot the epl rev limit it was over 7k.

MT cars typically trap a few miles per hour faster than a DSG car due to gearing and a lessor 60'.

[EIAlfonso]

This is from when I had my EPL setup

Model: B8 S4
Tran: 6MT (JHM stg 4 clutch)
ECU: EPL
Stage: 2+
File: Race 104 (topped at 19* could have had it bumped up)
Fuel: 104 (Sunoco gt260)
S/C pulley: CTS 57.02mm
Crank pulley: JHM 179mm
Pulley ratio: 3.139
D/A:1700
10/28/2016
60ft:1.876
330ft:5.277
1/8th:8.039
1/8MPH:89.32
1000ft:10.404
1/4et:12.406
1/4MPH:112.32


Could have grabbed a better 60', wasn't very excited about that trap speed.

I would have thought you were in the 11s with those mods

You think things will be better now if you gave it another run?

[fitzydude]

Me too, the current setup looks to be a fair amount faster. When the car was Revo 1+ single pulley with stock cooling it ran a 12.6 @112 on 93 octane in a shitty DA and a 1.9 60', on 104 octane it would have run a faster time than my old DP setup.

I've been working on launching the car, it's hard to get much practice on our track because you can only get 2 runs a night. I've been working on an upswing method for launching, hopefully I can make it work on the track.

[Loe]

This is from when I had my EPL setup

Model: B8 S4
Tran: 6MT (JHM stg 4 clutch)
ECU: EPL
Stage: 2+
File: Race 104 (topped at 19* could have had it bumped up)
Fuel: 104 (Sunoco gt260)
S/C pulley: CTS 57.02mm
Crank pulley: JHM 179mm
Pulley ratio: 3.139
D/A:1700
10/28/2016
60ft:1.876
330ft:5.277
1/8th:8.039
1/8MPH:89.32
1000ft:10.404
1/4et:12.406
1/4MPH:112.32

Could have grabbed a better 60', wasn't very excited about that trap speed.

I'm glad you posted this time since it's the standard OTS map. Good luck with your Revo + CW, based on your logs, the results should be strong.

- - - Updated - - -

I've updated everyone, and will load it into my google drive soon.

[Tony@EPL]

Nice Runs!!!


Everyone wants more EPL data. Here's my best in my heavy ass A7 on 21" wheels:

Model: 2012 C7 A7
Weight: 4400 lbs!!
Tran: ZF (6400rpm)
ECU: EPL
TCU: N/A
Stage: 2+
File: Race
Fuel: e85/91 (E60)
S/C pulley: AWE 57.55
Crank pulley: FD 194
Pulley ratio: 3.40
D/A-400
02/25/2017
60ft:1.740
330ft:4.988
1/8th:7.677
1/8MPH:91.59
1000ft:9.985
1/4et:11.939
1/4MPH:115.34


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170226/11819ff8668107253c1c6e0be162f674.jpg

[SR7D1]

Loe, it looks like the best time on the list, you, needs corrected in column F? Your 2+, right?

[whiped]

Loe, it looks like the best time on the list, you, needs corrected in column F? Your 2+, right?

That run was with Giac's Stage 2 file and a CW stacked.

I think he left it that way on purpose as it was before the new Giac Tune.

[SR7D1]

Well, maybe I am not reading the sheet right? I see "file" and "stage"? If he is running two pulleys, is he not 2+ regardless of the file? I ask because I'm taking note of the Stage 2 (single pulley) best times. [:D]

[whiped]

That was with a second pulley just not a proper tune.

Call it stage whatever you want.

[bhvrdr]

The stages are completely arbitrary.

Revo single pulley is stage 1+
Uni single pulley is stage 2+
APR single is 2
GIAC single is 2
EPL single is 2

APR dual pulley will be? "ultra"
EPL Dual pulley is DP or dual pulley
Uni Dual pulley will be ? Maybe "2++" or "2R" for race
Revo dual pulley is 2?

I'd just focus on pulley ratio and not "stage."

[redlinerex]

Hi Loe,

Another datapoint. EPL Stg2 91 pump tune:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 91 Pump
Fuel: 91/E85 Mix
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: +35ft
Date: 3/1/2017 (Slip shows wrong date)
Timeslip: http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2017-03-01_21_23_00.jpg
60ft: 1.773
330ft: 5.124
1/8 et: 7.845
1/8 mph: 90.52
1000ft: 10.194
1/4 et: 12.165
1/4 mph: 114.98

Spotted a black Q5 (Colby?) tearing it up out there too but I left VERY early so didn't introduce myself. 3 runs in 16mins.

[bhvrdr]

Thats not too bad. You're a few tenths off where you want to be right? Your file is probably timed for 91 octane so I wouldnt be overly depressed. Plenty of room for improvement.

[Lensch09]

Hi Loe,

Another datapoint. EPL Stg2 91 pump tune:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 91 Pump
Fuel: 91/E85 Mix
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: +35ft
Date: 3/1/2017 (Slip shows wrong date)
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.773
330ft: 5.124
1/8 et: 7.845
1/8 mph: 90.52
1000ft: 10.194
1/4 et: 12.165
1/4 mph: 114.98

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2017-03-01_21_23_00.jpg

Spotted a black Q5 (Colby?) tearing it up out there too but I left VERY early so didn't introduce myself. 3 runs in 16mins.

I must have just missed you guys. I saw Colby leaving as I showed up (around 6:45).

I had multiple traps in the 118+ mph range. Absolutely could not pull below a 1.87 60' time so no 11 second passes yet. I blame the combination of my tires (265XL DW on 19 X 9.5") and my clutch/fw setup for that (JHM LWFW and STG 3 R clutch). Neither the tires nor the clutch will slip which = mad bogging = no 11s.

I was also pulling lean codes on almost every run.

Sure wish GIAC would release their DP tune so that I could unlock the full potential. I'm thinking between track specific wheels and tires and the full on DP tune (when it's publicly available for the B8.5) could put me north of the magical 120 mph trap.

I have 18 X 8" Ultraleggaras with 245 tires showing up next week. I'll be back up there in 2 weeks, hope to see you then!

-DL

[redlinerex]

I was actually happy with this time. It pretty much matched my E85 tune time but this time I have better tires and was running a TCU tune. If I switch back to E85 and everything runs right then I'd expect a much better timeslip. Hopefully I can try again with E85 in the next week or two.

[bhvrdr]

Sorry I read it as dissapoint instead of datapoint lol. yeah i agree. Thats a great trap speed for a stage 2 on 91 octane file too. I imaging the race file would help you out.

mike

[doug97gxe]

Sorry I read it as dissapoint instead of datapoint lol. yeah i agree. Thats a great trap speed for a stage 2 on 91 octane file too. I imaging the race file would help you out.

mike

lol i read it that way too

[Tony@EPL]

Great pass given the ratio and octane! Looks like a "touch more" left.




Hi Loe,

Another datapoint. EPL Stg2 91 pump tune:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 91 Pump
Fuel: 91/E85 Mix
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: +35ft
Date: 3/1/2017 (Slip shows wrong date)
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.773
330ft: 5.124
1/8 et: 7.845
1/8 mph: 90.52
1000ft: 10.194
1/4 et: 12.165
1/4 mph: 114.98

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2017-03-01_21_23_00.jpg

Spotted a black Q5 (Colby?) tearing it up out there too but I left VERY early so didn't introduce myself. 3 runs in 16mins.

[cobrario]

I have 18 X 8" Ultraleggaras with 245 tires showing up next week. I'll be back up there in 2 weeks, hope to see you then!

-DL
Should be there the 8th, hope they help push you over the edge! good luck

[Chris@EPL]

Hi Loe,

Another datapoint. EPL Stg2 91 pump tune:

Member name: RedlineRex
Model: B8 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 91 Pump
Fuel: 91/E85 Mix
S/C pulley + size: OEM 63.25mm
Crank Pulley + size: FD 183mm
Pulley Ratio: 2.893
D/A: +35ft
Date: 3/1/2017 (Slip shows wrong date)
Timeslip:
60ft: 1.773
330ft: 5.124
1/8 et: 7.845
1/8 mph: 90.52
1000ft: 10.194
1/4 et: 12.165
1/4 mph: 114.98

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2017-03-01_21_23_00.jpg

Spotted a black Q5 (Colby?) tearing it up out there too but I left VERY early so didn't introduce myself. 3 runs in 16mins.

Great time and there was also an EPL S7 running straight 91 and stock that ran [email protected] which is very fast for a stock car with just ECU and TCU tune on that horrible California 91.

[Lensch09]

Should be there the 8th, hope they help push you over the edge! good luck

Thanks again for the great sale! Really appreciate it!


Great time and there was also an EPL S7 running straight 91 and stock that ran [email protected] which is very fast for a stock car with just ECU and TCU tune on that horrible California 91.

California 91... Ew. I ran midwest 93/94 through the car before I moved out here, crazy amount of difference.

You guys should make the trip to Sac sometime. We usually have a pretty good crew running around on Wednesday nights, even more so once it's not so damn cold (cold being below 60 for us Californians).

-DL

[Johnson]

Went to the track for the first time since going stage 2. I know this won't make the list since it's only an 1/8th mile track but I think it's good to put more data out there.
I made 4 passes, below is the 1st pass. Comparing this to the stock tune at the same track where I ran an 8.459 @ 82.72 shows a good improvement.

IATs were ~50C in the staging lanes before I was able to run. I couldn't get them lower than this.
This is 4 gallons of E85 (tested) and the rest 93 octane.

Member name: Johnson
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: EPL
ECU Tune: EPL
Stage: 2
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: CTS 57.02 mm
Crank Pulley + size: OEM 162.18
Pulley Ratio: 2.844
D/A: -244
Date: 03/02/2017
Timeslip: http://imgur.com/FwGDDr3
60ft: 1.7141
330ft: 5.0187
1/8 et: 7.7620
1/8 mph: 90.09

Something was going on with the 3rd and 4th pass though. The car was shortshifting pretty bad. Any ideas?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhBsh39NMbk&ab_channel=starxidiam

[redlinerex]

Johnson, were you spinning through 1st? In my experiences, wheel spin in first is a guaranteed short shift.

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[Johnson]

Yeah I was spinning some. But I thought that would only short shift 1st. If you notice in the video, 1st shifts around 7k, 2nd shifts around 6k and third shifts around 5k.

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[bhvrdr]

Yeah I was spinning some. But I thought that would only short shift 1st. If you notice in the video, 1st shifts around 7k, 2nd shifts around 6k and third shifts around 5k.

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You're right. As I look at it again, the shift from 1st to 2nd is the only one that seems to actually shift at the 7K redline. The 2-3 and 3-4 are progressively shorter. Thats a pretty interesting one. I'd be curious to see what causes it. Try posting your video in the EPL thread. Tony may know what causes this.

Mike

[BlownOne]

I just got the newest 034 dual pulley beta file so I might be heading out this Saturday or next Wednesday pending weather and logs[emoji469]


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[ntsantos]

I just got the newest 034 dual pulley beta file so I might be heading out this Saturday or next Wednesday pending weather and logs[emoji469]


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I'm hoping weather holds out tomorrow for TnT. I'll see you there if it does.

[BlownOne]

I'm hoping weather holds out tomorrow for TnT. I'll see you there if it does.

Sounds good brotha!


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[redlinerex]

Just flashed from Stg2 91 to Stg2 E85 tune and also trying out the new 4k LC TCU file. The car is already pulling noticeably harder with the E85 tune w/o any adaptation time. Hope to be back out this Wed to see what it can do.

[Loe]

Hey all, thanks for the contribution. I'll try to keep up with it as much as I can, and I hope I uploaded everyone thus far who followed the format on page 1.

I did update the front page to include a blurb (since it's been a topic of discussion lately):

***KEEP IN MIND THAT NOT ALL D/A's ARE CREATED EQUAL***

The perfect recipe for our cars appears to be a day featuring high baro, low winds, low D/A's, and track temps high enough to provide a sticky surface. In other words, I would take a 70F day featuring high baro, low humidity over a 55F day featuring high humidity, low baro if given the same D/A (lets throw out 1,000ft for a simple comparison).

Even though the 55F ambient temp will help in regards to IAT control, the car IMHO responds best to dense/dry air despite a 70F ambient temp, despite both having the same 1,000ft D/A.

[BlownOne]

Good points Loe, especially the one related to track temp. If the track temp is below 50*, you won't be hooking without a drag radial/slick and a small burnout.

Weather at sac raceway Saturday is supposed to be mostly sunny starting at 47* (sunrise) with a high of 73* so it should be a perfect day[emoji469]


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[doug97gxe]

anyone knows if this person is on this forum?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vouy3xrvVOs

[hckymstr19]

anyone knows if this person is on this forum?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vouy3xrvVOs

Yea, I believe thats Ron(primetime). I believe that's is the Ultra charger kit in action. In the 1/4 mile spread sheet you can actually see low has a run from him with around this time and he had the tune or mod as "UC"

[doug97gxe]

Yea, I believe thats Ron(primetime). I believe that's is the Ultra charger kit in action. In the 1/4 mile spread sheet you can actually see low has a run from him with around this time and he had the tune or mod as "UC"

oh for some reason i thought his car was Ibis

[whiped]

It's Ron's car. Here is a in-cab view of another run:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6u-4Rwu9Zs

[TexasDfwS4]

Based on those times 11.28 and Loe's Time 11.24 why would anyone go with the UC system? What I don't like is if you need to emission check your car you'll need to remove the noodle and tune.... Not for me.

[jran76]

Based on those times 11.28 and Loe's Time 11.24 why would anyone go with the UC system? What I don't like is if you need to emission check your car you'll need to remove the noodle and tune.... Not for me.

I think Loe would agree with this.... His car was pretty well tapped out at that 11.24@122 in its state of tune at the time, and Ron's Ultracharger still had a little room left when it ran the 11.25@123. Loe's DA was 600, and Ron's was 1200 which is also worth a tenth or so. At the end of the day, it's not a huge difference. Anything past a dual pulley is going to be incremental at this point. If you aren't chasing the fastest time, it may not matter to you. If you're trying to run an 11 second 1/4-mile time, every little bit helps. That's basically where the UC falls.

[cobrario]

Based on those times 11.28 and Loe's Time 11.24 why would anyone go with the UC system? What I don't like is if you need to emission check your car you'll need to remove the noodle and tune.... Not for me.

Ron had an older version of the software in those runs as well, he stated on AR that he'll be using the new version (the same I believe that's available to all) his next time out- He will eclipse his previous best soon, I'll all but guarantee it.

[Loe]

I think Loe would agree with this.... His car was pretty well tapped out at that 11.24@122 in its state of tune at the time, and Ron's Ultracharger still had a little room left when it ran the 11.25@123. Loe's DA was 600, and Ron's was 1200 which is also worth a tenth or so. At the end of the day, it's not a huge difference. Anything past a dual pulley is going to be incremental at this point. If you aren't chasing the fastest time, it may not matter to you. If you're trying to run an 11 second 1/4-mile time, every little bit helps. That's basically where the UC falls.

I thought I was at the time, until I landed a 123.06mph trap this past weekend with boost bleed (same file, but 700 D/A). I have a new file waiting for me to help alleviate that, so a few of us (DP EPL, APR UC, and me) are going to hit the strip next Thursday. It will be an interesting time...

At any rate, I do see the benefits of the UC (looks like we are one of the very few who do lol). I'm supportive of anything that will move the platform forward, and very very thrilled that APR finally released it.

[neverfastenough]

At any rate, I do see the benefits of the UC (looks like we are one of the very few who do lol). I'm supportive of anything that will move the platform forward, and very very thrilled that APR finally released it.

Great to hear this from you. All those wondering if UC is worth it... if the current record holder sees potential in it... that should tell you something.

Looking forward to hearing about your next track session.

[jran76]

I thought I was at the time, until I landed a 123.06mph trap this past weekend with boost bleed (same file, but 700 D/A). I have a new file waiting for me to help alleviate that, so a few of us (DP EPL, APR UC, and me) are going to hit the strip next Thursday. It will be an interesting time...

At any rate, I do see the benefits of the UC (looks like we are one of the very few who do lol). I'm supportive of anything that will move the platform forward, and very very thrilled that APR finally released it.

Looking forward to the results of your next outing.

I do think you have something left in it with your current changes, and especially if you can prevent any bypass. I feel like all the tuning and other tweaks you've made could get you down a little lower.

[cspcrx]

Loe don't you have a kill chiller on your car? Does Ron?

[Loe]

Loe don't you have a kill chiller on your car? Does Ron?

I do, it has minimal advantage on a multi-gear run such as on a drag strip due to our small S/C intercooler cores. My IAT's end up in a similar range to others who have upgraded standard cooling systems, the only difference is that my starting IAT's are lower (so my IAT delta's are higher), and my IAT recovery is very very quick making it ready to go again from the time I pick up my slip to getting back into line again at the strip.

[hckymstr19]

Great to hear this from you. All those wondering if UC is worth it... if the current record holder sees potential in it... that should tell you something.

Looking forward to hearing about your next track session.

I think the term "worth it" is a matter of perspective, some may think a tenth or two for 2000 or even 3000 is "worth it", and others may not. Just like a few thousand for an exhaust is worth it to some for basically no performance gain. All personal preference. I mean to put it into perspective, for me at least, I paid just under 2000 for my stage 2 and TCU tune which nets conservatively around 70-80whp, and now they are trying to sell "maybe" 30whp for 2000$, I guess that just doesn't make sense to me, but as I said, some may find it "worth it".

But either way, looking forward to seeing results. Still waiting for the first in the 10s.

[scmtkings4]

I thought I was at the time, until I landed a 123.06mph trap this past weekend with boost bleed (same file, but 700 D/A). I have a new file waiting for me to help alleviate that, so a few of us (DP EPL, APR UC, and me) are going to hit the strip next Thursday. It will be an interesting time...

At any rate, I do see the benefits of the UC (looks like we are one of the very few who do lol). I'm supportive of anything that will move the platform forward, and very very thrilled that APR finally released it.
Who's the DP EPL car you're going with? Is he a member on here?

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[bhvrdr]

Hi Loe,

Here's mine from a week ago...

Member name: bhvrdr
Model: B8.5 S5
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: Unitronic Stage 2
ECU Tune: Unitronic Dual Pulley Beta
Stage: Beta
File: 24 degree beta
Fuel: 93 Octane Shell
S/C pulley + size: Stock
Crank Pulley + size: KI 200mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.17
D/A: +544
Date: 03/03/2017
Timeslip: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/IMG_20170303_202834.jpg
60ft: 1.672
330ft: 4.844
1/8 et: 7.460
1/8 mph: 94.33
1000ft: 9.705
1/4 et: 11.605
1/4 mph: 118.76


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/IMG_20170303_190505.jpg

[Loe]

^^ I had I feeling I was missing someone when I updated it last, i'll get you added soon!

[Lensch09]

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EPC light is on. Car is pissed... brought my laptop, forgot the Cable.

Let out in third...

If it cleans up, times could be good.

We'll see if it gets better


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[whiped]

Turn it off and let it sit for a few minutes. EPC light should turn off.

Welcome to the club [>_>]

[Loe]

Great to hear this from you. All those wondering if UC is worth it... if the current record holder sees potential in it... that should tell you something.

Looking forward to hearing about your next track session.

well technically I didn't say it was worth it, I just see the benefits of it [:p] At any rate, it'll make for an interesting 2017 year.

[neverfastenough]

well technically I didn't say it was worth it, I just see the benefits of it [:p] At any rate, it'll make for an interesting 2017 year.

True, but if it ends up taking the record, then it will be worth it to a lot of people just for those bragging rights.

[Moogas1]

Only time will tell gentlemen, in the meantime, I'm waiting to see what Ron's times will be once the weather breaks up here. I'm banking with the revised tune we should see some pretty great times. Until then I will personally decide which route my next mods will take. Looking forward to see what everyone will be pulling out of their bag of tricks.


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[bhvrdr]

Hi loe
Thanks for adding my time and congrats on your new best.

Its not a big deal but just two points of correction to my 11.605 time is that the car is a b8.5 s5 not s4 anymore and the t u tune is just uni. Thanks man. Wish i could dyno with u guys next week but im out of country
Mike

[Loe]

My mistake, copied / paste from your old info, I will update it for sure!

[KnewJack]

Hey Loe, did I miss it or did you post about your new best?

[Loe]

Hey Loe, did I miss it or did you post about your new best?

I didnt post it on here, but ended up updating the spreadsheet instead. I posted it on the B8/B8.5 FB page though. I ran [email protected], on the final production file. Would have been pretty nice to see 123.00 (.04mph away) with it, as I've seen as high as 123.06mph in 700ft D/A a few weeks back.

Waiting for a higher barometric pressure day for that to happen though (30.26mm Hg versus 30.46mm Hg) as my personal best previously was with some boost bleed (small amounts at the top of 1st/2nd on the beta file, which is eliminated on the production file through some fine-tuning on the injectors on GIAC's end).

[tmoe]

I didnt post it on here, but ended up updating the spreadsheet instead. I posted it on the B8/B8.5 FB page though. I ran [email protected], on the final production file. Would have been pretty nice to see 123.00 (.04mph away) with it, as I've seen as high as 123.06mph in 700ft D/A a few weeks back.

Waiting for a higher barometric pressure day for that to happen though (30.26mm Hg versus 30.46mm Hg) as my personal best previously was with some boost bleed (small amounts at the top of 1st/2nd on the beta file, which is eliminated on the production file through some fine-tuning on the injectors on GIAC's end).


So your best run to date is with the FD179, based signature appears so? Did you get that 'odd' feeling over 6500 you've mentioned previously? I understand there's lots of variables going on here but for a DD a FD 179 looks like the ticket.

[KnewJack]

1st track visit of the season. This is on the APR updated Stage2 - 4.0. 1st time logging at the track too. Timing dropped into the teens during 3rd and 4th due to IAT reaching 79C. No real boost bleed though. Still on stock cooling.

Member name: KnewJack
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage:2+ (4.0)
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: 57.75
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.10
D/A: -271
Date: 03/18/2017
Timeslip: http://imgur.com/a/6nDH0
60ft: 1.645
330ft: 4.783
1/8 et: 7.415
1/8 mph: 92.49
1000ft: 9.665
1/4 et: 11.575
1/4 mph: 119.18

Think there is a 120 trap in it with some cooling.

[4Rings3Liters]

Loe, didn't a bunch of people including some UC cars go to the track a few days ago? Any times besides yours?

[HeymyAudi]

1st track visit of the season. This is on the APR updated Stage2 - 4.0. 1st time logging at the track too. Timing dropped into the teens during 3rd and 4th due to IAT reaching 79C. No real boost bleed though. Still on stock cooling.

Member name: KnewJack
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
Stage:2+ (4.0)
File: 93
Fuel: 93/E85
S/C pulley + size: 57.75
Crank Pulley + size: JHM 179mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.10
D/A: -271
Date: 03/18/2017
Timeslip: http://imgur.com/a/6nDH0
60ft: 1.645
330ft: 4.783
1/8 et: 7.415
1/8 mph: 92.49
1000ft: 9.665
1/4 et: 11.575
1/4 mph: 119.18

Think there is a 120 trap in it with some cooling.

Thats a really good time! Did you "mash and go"?

[KnewJack]

Upswing method. My best mash and go is a high 1.7x. Traction was a real issue today, the upswing method shocks the tires less when done right and gets you moving with less spin.

[Loe]

Loe, didn't a bunch of people including some UC cars go to the track a few days ago? Any times besides yours?

Yes, none of the two logged that night, but one of them logged tonight that was sent to me who was running it with Chrisucf89. Similar issue to the guy local to you, high iat, bypass (which is exactly what I would want it to do).

[Loe]

Upswing method. My best mash and go is a high 1.7x. Traction was a real issue today, the upswing method shocks the tires less when done right and gets you moving with less spin.


Great times! Ill get you added

[bhvrdr]

Yes, none of the two logged that night, but one of them logged tonight that was sent to me who was running it with Chrisucf89. Similar issue to the guy local to you, high iat, bypass (which is exactly what I would want it to do).

Stock cooling?

[Loe]

Stock cooling?

Both on the latest CPS system. Chris is on a Forge system.

[bhvrdr]

Both on the latest CPS system. Chris is on a Forge system.

Hopefully more bleeding issues with their system? Were they on pure 93 or some e85 or race mix? I wonder how aggressive their "pump" file will be with timing since no file switching

[BDP]

It's becoming clearly evident a CPS is needed with a DP set up. I'm a little leery though of recent IAT issues even with people who have them. My set up is being installed as I type this. I was overly expressive to the my friend about it installing everything.

[jordon]

looks like an update is in order? ;)

[KnewJack]

Yeah hasn't been updated for a little while. Been busy, Loe?[;)]

[Loe]

updated everyone who posted in the format requested

[doug97gxe]

thought about it, but i'll likely be going the "CUV" route this fall with a Macan Turbo and picking up a COBB Accessport. Almost 3 years with the S5, it wasn't meant to be a long-term car for me.

not to throw a wrench in your decision but -> http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-mercedes-amg-glc63-glc63-coupe-revealed-ahead-new-york/?sm_id=organic_tw_MT_trueanthem&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=58e4cee604d3013549e674ef&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

[FLYINGLEGGS]

Looooooove the Macan Turbo!

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[stereojorge]

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Courtesy of the man himself, Loe!


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[DBL R]

for all those wondering, Loe's car was #54 in the left lane. 10's baby

[ntsantos]

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100mph at the 1/8th, and a 1.5x 60ft. That's a serious pass. Well deserved Loe!

[fitzydude]

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Congratulations Loe!!! Great work!! Does this mean it's Macan time now? lol!

Also is that an Ultracharged car in the right lane [>_<]

[yjypm]

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Courtesy of the man himself, Loe!


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Possibly the first B8 3.0T got into 10s with the stock blower. Weight reduction? Was he on street tires?

[bhvrdr]

Holy smokes congrats loe. This deserves a post. Way to go man.

Mike

[cspcrx]

Well done!

[Hofahome]

I was hoping he would be the first! Congrats loe! Someone please make a new thread. This deserves it!


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[Chibo]

Nice finally!

[RWD2quattro]

You animal, we all hate you [:D]. Good job man, you just raised the bar big time!!
Will where u at?

[Brother Owl]

Wow, that 60ft'!! Slow Loe is hauling ass [drool]

[KnewJack]

Wow 2/10s improvement on what seemed to be a pretty much maxed out setup. What changed? Weight reduction and tires? Revised tune? Congrats!!

[jokingjimmy]

Grats Loe!!!

Now who is going to be the first S4 lol

[DGVR6]

Congrats Leo ! First one to the 10s on stock blower.. sick

[djm018]

Simply awesome!!! Great work Loe!!!


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[stereojorge]

Wow 2/10s improvement on what seemed to be a pretty much maxed out setup. What changed? Weight reduction and tires? Revised tune? Congrats!!

Replaced his JHM HFC's for Crown Motorsports new HFC's!


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[doug97gxe]

White S5's are born fast [emoji12]


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[BlownOne]

You animal, we all hate you [:D]. Good job man, you just raised the bar big time!!
Will where u at?

He txt me with the news last night! I knew it was only a matter of time before we would get there (10's), but I wasn't sure who would pull it off first. I'm glad Loe was able to lay it down! I feel he of all people deserves it[emoji469]


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[BlownOne]

Grats Loe!!!

Now who is going to be the first S4 lol

I joked with him last night about that...he's the first s5 in the 10's, so technically I can still be the first s4 hahaha


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[EIAlfonso]

fitzydude;

Also is that an Ultracharged car in the right lane

[emoji28]
Nice accomplishment

[bhvrdr]

Hi Loe, from last night....


Member name: bhvrdr
Model: B8.5 S5
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: Unitronic Stage 2
ECU Tune: Unitronic 3.17 Ratio Beta
Stage: 3.17 Ratio
File: 26 degree Beta
Fuel: 93/100 Octane Shell/Sunoco ~97 Octane
S/C pulley + size: Stock
Crank Pulley + size: KI 200mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.17
D/A: +465
Date: 04/07/2017
Timeslip: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/20170407_215726.jpg
60ft: 1.619
330ft: 4.748
1/8 et: 7.460
1/8 mph: 94.60
1000ft: 9.588
1/4 et: 11.482
1/4 mph: 118.70

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/bhvrdr/20170407_215726.jpg


OTHER MODS: full weight. stock exhaust. stock blower. stock throttle body.

[Moogas1]

Nice bhvrdr


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[Loe]

Mike, great runs. I know this may seem like backwards methodology, but if you can get your 60ft's down more (I know you have been struggling with wheelspin), I think you'll hit close (or surpass) that 120 mph marker due to a better front-half. I'll get you added

[Loe]

Wow 2/10s improvement on what seemed to be a pretty much maxed out setup. What changed? Weight reduction and tires? Revised tune? Congrats!!

no spare/jack (if those 40lbs even makes a diff?), less fuel as I'm always over fueled due to my range anxieties post-track, revised file with better / consistent shift points, different hardware (HFC, Kevlar belt that I feel stopped some belt slip that contributed to more boost over the long haul, despite likely not making more boost).

Previously, my car would short-shift the 1-2 around 6,500-6,700 rpm (or in the case of a few of my 11.2 second runs, at 5800 rpm, which IMHO costs me .08-.10 overall so they never represented the best performance), now with the revision, it consistently rings out to at least 7,200 rpm (hence my faster 60ft & 1/8 mile et/trap times) + a few more items on the file.

Hard to pin point exactly, but it was definitely a combination of items


White S5's are born fast [emoji12]


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Maybe its an S5 thing? I'm not sure if I believe my FL registration weight is correct, maybe S5's are truly lighter?


I joked with him last night about that...he's the first s5 in the 10's, so technically I can still be the first s4 hahaha


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Kill it! I think you CA'ers and other northern states have a month or so of amazingly great D/A's still!

[bhvrdr]

Mike, great runs. I know this may seem like backwards methodology, but if you can get your 60ft's down more (I know you have been struggling with wheelspin), I think you'll hit close (or surpass) that 120 mph marker due to a better front-half. I'll get you added

Thanks moogas.


Loe, I had spent some time looking at our slips and a similar thing jumps out at me. I'm not so sure Friday was necessarily just my 60 foot (it was 1.619 and the track prep allowed me to hook) but there is something in the first 1/8th where I am not getting there fast.

You were at 7.026 in the 1/8 at 99.97mph. Then you go on to pick up 25mph in the back half.

In my 1/8 I am at 7.351 at 94.6mph. I then go on to pick up over 24mph in the back half. I'm fully .3 tenth behind you in the first 1/8th mile to end up around 5 tenth behind you in the last 1/8th.


I'm losing time up front. I also do wonder if a set of re71 or similar more extreme performance summers will help me and also maybe getting that first gear to not short shift at 6200rpm? It doesnt seem like IAT management (no more than any of us that all struggle with that) bc I am at least picking up 24mph in the last 1/8th on probably a little less aggressive timing than you. I think sitting in the staging lanes and not being able to hot pass the car or get the IATs down lower than 48c is hurting me compared to you in the first 1/8th but my IATs seem to be rising at a much lower delta than yours so i'm not losing as much in the last 1/18th since we are both ending at similar IATs. I'll work on that 60 foot as well to get in the 1.5x range to but thats tough man. I need better tires and a good track prep day i think.

Anyways thanks for the advice and it gives me stuff to think about. Feel free to point out anything you can think of I might be doing wrong or need to do to get better.

Mike

[KnewJack]

Great runs bhvrdr! That is killer ET. I hit 93mph in the 1/8th for I think the 1st time yesterday. I was hoping to better my best MPH of 119 but 15mph headwind had other ideas! I don't know how you guys are getting 94+ mph on 93 tune. What kind be of timing did you see? These cars just keep getting quicker/faster.

[Loe]

In my experience, short-shifting may not impact my 60ft times (i've landed 1.57 with it short-shifting at 5,700-5,800rpm), but has affected my 330ft and any increment data afterwards as you are basically carrying out 2nd gear low in the RPM band (manifold pressures likely showed lower in 2nd gears too with those short-shifts). Overall, the impact of the short shift has been in the .08-.10 second range, and 1-1.5 mph overall. If you did short-shift, then there is more in your file that your 60ft doesn't allude to IMHO.

Honestly, I'm not 100% convinced my RE71's made too much of a difference, but the difference is likely in consistency of my 60ft time over the course of the tire life. My old PSS's were great, but then turned slightly slippery for traction when acceleration is needed around the 6/32nd mark. If anything, the RE71r's goes against weight savings as they are 2-3 lbs heavier and at the worse spot in rotational mass to be at [:(]

[tmoe]

no spare/jack (if those 40lbs even makes a diff?), less fuel as I'm always over fueled due to my range anxieties post-track, revised file with better / consistent shift points, different hardware (HFC, Kevlar belt that I feel stopped some belt slip that contributed to more boost over the long haul, despite likely not making more boost).

Previously, my car would short-shift the 1-2 around 6,500-6,700 rpm, now with the revision, it consistently rings out to 7,100 rpm (hence my faster 60ft time).



Maybe its an S5 thing? I'm not sure if I believe my FL registration weight is correct, maybe S5's are truly lighter?



Kill it! I think you CA'ers and other northern states have a month or so of amazingly great D/A's still!

Belt - something custom - what were you running gates rpm?

So - now that you have your +6500 rpm issue worked out, you going to trying going big again?[:D] or something else?

[Lensch09]

Loe, congrats.

Also, imagine how fast that car could be on 260GT Plus....

Anyone want to buy an Ultracharger? [:D]

[KnewJack]

Thanks moogas.



I think sitting in the staging lanes and not being able to hot pass the car or get the IATs down lower than 48c...

Mike

What is the best way to cool the car quickly between runs? I've never been able to hot lap as there is always a line. Is it better to let the car sit and idle for a while after a pass and then shut it off to cool? That's what I've been doing, but it seems IAT skyrocket once you shut the car off. After a run the SC is actually a little cool to the touch, however once you shut it off even with the hood up, the SC it almost too hot to touch in just a few minutes. If I let the car sit for an hour before next run I generally start it every so often to let the coolant circulate. I think I read where Loe used to let the car idle with ice on the SC?

[DGVR6]

What is the best way to cool the car quickly between runs? I've never been able to hot lap as there is always a line. Is it better to let the car sit and idle for a while after a pass and then shut it off to cool? That's what I've been doing, but it seems IAT skyrocket once you shut the car off. After a run the SC is actually a little cool to the touch, however once you shut it off even with the hood up, the SC it almost too hot to touch in just a few minutes. If I let the car sit for an hour before next run I generally start it every so often to let the coolant circulate. I think I read where Loe used to let the car idle with ice on the SC?

Hood up with heater on full blast, leave the car on or rotate it off every so often but leave heater on
Worked for me

You can put a bag of ice if you want

[neverfastenough]

Loe, congrats.

Also, imagine how fast that car could be on 260GT Plus....

Anyone want to buy an Ultracharger? [:D]

You use nut sacs like they're monkey bars, swinging from set to set.

[kelseysautobody]

What is the best way to cool the car quickly between runs? I've never been able to hot lap as there is always a line. Is it better to let the car sit and idle for a while after a pass and then shut it off to cool? That's what I've been doing, but it seems IAT skyrocket once you shut the car off. After a run the SC is actually a little cool to the touch, however once you shut it off even with the hood up, the SC it almost too hot to touch in just a few minutes. If I let the car sit for an hour before next run I generally start it every so often to let the coolant circulate. I think I read where Loe used to let the car idle with ice on the SC?

I did a little testing with this the other day to try create how the car would act if there's a line in the staging lane. Car was completely warmed up after a half hour drive. When I got home I let it sit and idle for 10 minutes, IAT's got up around 45*c. I then turned on the defrost on HI temp full blast. IAT's started to fall to 33* over maybe a minute. I then held revs at about 2000 rpm and IAT's dropped further to 28* pretty quickly. Ambient conditions were about 50*F. Unless you're in the staging lane for a LONG time and the HX gets completely heat soaked this seems to be pretty effective way to get IAT's manageable for the start of your run.

[jran76]

Running the AC (or Defrost/AC) full blast definitely helps drop the temps; especially if you give it some revs. In general, anything that gets the fans running as fast as possible helps. Turning the car off, and letting it sit is a bad idea unless it's for a really long time. The one issue with the AC is some tracks absolutely do not want you running the AC system due to condensation. It's just something you have to be aware of once you get close to the actual starting line (further back in the staging lanes is usually not an issue).

[Loe]

Running the AC (or Defrost/AC) full blast definitely helps drop the temps; especially if you give it some revs. In general, anything that gets the fans running as fast as possible helps. Turning the car off, and letting it sit is a bad idea unless it's for a really long time. The one issue with the AC is some tracks absolutely do not want you running the AC system due to condensation. It's just something you have to be aware of once you get close to the actual starting line (further back in the staging lanes is usually not an issue).

if you can live with the interior heat, the front defroster + "HI" heat avoids condensation drips on the ground.

[Brother Owl]

You use nut sacs like they're monkey bars, swinging from set to set.

LMAO I just spit out my drink

[jran76]

if you can live with the interior heat, the front defroster + "HI" heat avoids condensation drips on the ground.

I have tried that a few times. It seems like it cools IAT's about the same, but 99% of the time it's already really hot here when I'm at the track. I guess I need to man up, and deal with it.... I think what I'll do if it's hot out is run the AC max until I'm 8-10 cars back from the starting lines, and then switch over to the Defrost/high heat.

I may do something like DBFL's killer chiller setup. Honestly, at $800 that seems like a better investment than the UC at $1600....

[fitzydude]

You use nut sacs like they're monkey bars, swinging from set to set.

Incredible.

[KnewJack]

Thanks for the replies. On my turbo cars I've been so used to cooling them buy just shutting them down (after turbo timer does it's thing) and giving them cooling time while the rad fans blow full blast. Obviously a SC with built in intercoolers is a whole other beast. How effective is running the SC aux pump without the main water pump running? Or I supposed a switch on the aux pump and the car idling would cool things down quicker. Any way to get both rad fans running full speed?

[George@GDP]

Took the Audi S4 out this weekend and had a blast With at the Red List Group event. Mrs.Gdp on Instagram is the owner driver of this car but she is not on here so I am posting on her Behalf. Give her a follow and shoutout if you use IG


Member name: George@GDP
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
File: Ultra Charger 104 DP
Fuel: 100 octane
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: APR 187mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.238
D/A: 1157
Date: 4/8/17
Timeslip: http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/bakersfieldvwparts/IMG_1417.jpg (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/bakersfieldvwparts/media/IMG_1417.jpg.html)
60ft: 1.559
330ft: 4.622
1/8 et: 7.171
1/8 mph: 96.88
1000ft: 9.358
1/4 et: 11.214
1/4 mph: 121.78

[whiped]

Nice, very solid run!

[jran76]

Took the Audi S4 out this weekend and had a blast With at the Red List Group event. Mrs.Gdp on Instagram is the owner driver of this car but she is not on here so I am posting on her Behalf. Give her a follow and shoutout if you use IG


Member name: George@GDP
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
File: Ultra Charger 104 DP
Fuel: 100 octane
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: APR 187mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.238
D/A: 1157
Date: 4/8/17
Timeslip: http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/bakersfieldvwparts/IMG_1417.jpg (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/bakersfieldvwparts/media/IMG_1417.jpg.html)
60ft: 1.559
330ft: 4.622
1/8 et: 7.171
1/8 mph: 96.88
1000ft: 9.358
1/4 et: 11.214
1/4 mph: 121.78

Nice work. I think that makes you the second fastest S4 right now. That's a great time for the DA. What are your other mods (wheels/tires, brakes, cooling, exhaust, intake)?

[doug97gxe]

Took the Audi S4 out this weekend and had a blast With at the Red List Group event. Mrs.Gdp on Instagram is the owner driver of this car but she is not on here so I am posting on her Behalf. Give her a follow and shoutout if you use IG


Member name: George@GDP
Model: B8.5 S4
Tran: DSG
TCU Tune: APR
ECU Tune: APR
File: Ultra Charger 104 DP
Fuel: 100 octane
S/C pulley + size: APR 57.75mm
Crank Pulley + size: APR 187mm
Pulley Ratio: 3.238
D/A: 1157
Date: 4/8/17
Timeslip: http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/bakersfieldvwparts/IMG_1417.jpg (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/bakersfieldvwparts/media/IMG_1417.jpg.html)
60ft: 1.559
330ft: 4.622
1/8 et: 7.171
1/8 mph: 96.88
1000ft: 9.358
1/4 et: 11.214
1/4 mph: 121.78

Nice work


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[bhvrdr]

Wow. Thats awesome. What a 60 foot too. Interested in mods too and what tires?

Thanks,
mike

[George@GDP]

Nice work. I think that makes you the second fastest S4 right now. That's a great time for the DA. What are your other mods (wheels/tires, brakes, cooling, exhaust, intake)?
APR CPS SYSTEM, JHM downpipes, Stock cat back exhaust currently waiting on the new set up, OZ Alleggerita HLT wheels with Hoosier DR2 (hence the 60ft) And stock brakes. Spare tire pulled all else stock. Hopefully with exhaust and more experience in the car the time will continue to drop. All her runs were done on the launch control in sport mode with no shifting from driver.

[doug97gxe]

Nice work. I think that makes you the second fastest S4 right now. That's a great time for the DA. What are your other mods (wheels/tires, brakes, cooling, exhaust, intake)?

Second fastest or fastest


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[jran76]

Wow. Thats awesome. What a 60 foot too. Interested in mods too and what tires?

Thanks,
mike

So, looking at her IG, it looks like she is on drag radials (and light OZ wheels).

[jran76]

Second fastest or fastest


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I guess in terms of S4's fastest, but I have a feeling that will change this weekend.

[doug97gxe]

I guess in terms of S4's fastest, but I have a feeling that will change this weekend.

I was curious if Ron had run faster


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[jran76]

APR CPS SYSTEM, JHM downpipes, Stock cat back exhaust currently waiting on the new set up, OZ Alleggerita HLT wheels with Hoosier DR2 (hence the 60ft) And stock brakes. Spare tire pulled all else stock. Hopefully with exhaust and more experience in the car the time will continue to drop. All her runs were done on the launch control in sport mode with no shifting from driver.

Thanks for the details. Looked her up on IG. Good stuff.

[jran76]

I was curious if Ron had run faster


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He hasn't been able to make any passes yet this year.

[Loe]

looks good, I added the time to the database