(Firefox250's) - HTA3073 Build

[Firefox250]

Hey another Coloradoan build! My name is Carl and like everyone on AZ I went going BT. Here are some pictures and my current status.

Current picture April 2015


Current modifications:

Engine/Transmissions:
•United Motorsport Stage 3 custom Golf R tune
•ARD top mount Exhaust Manifold
•Forced Performance HTA3073 turbo
•Tial .63 A/R housing
•IE CNC Ported cylinder head w/ 1mm Ferrea over-sized valves
•Integrated Engineering Intake Manifold
•Custom 3" exhaust with Vibrant resonator and mufflers
•Tial MVS wastegate
•Tial QRJ DV
•IE Billet Adjustable Camshaft Gear
•Integrated Engineering 144x20 Connecting Rods
•JE pistons 83mm w/ 9.5:1 Compression ratio
•AWE Front Mount Intercooler
•APR High Pressure Fuel Pump
•RS4 Injectors
•HPFPupgrade 145lbs. Pressure Rail Valve
•Bluewater Performance modified LPFP
•Integrated Engineering Ultimate Rod install kit
•Calico rod bearings
•ARP Head Studs
•ARP Main Studs
•ARP Tower bolts
•Integrated Engineering Dowel pin Kit
•Fluidampr
•JHM 4:1 Center Differential
•Clutch Masters FX400 02025-HDCL
•Clutch Masters flywheel FW-025-SF
•USP Metal Slave with Stainless steel line
•Apikol Snub Mount
•Apikol Transmission Mount
•Apikol Rear differential Mount
•034 Street density engine Mounts
•IE Catch Can

Suspension/Brakes:
•Stasis Street Sport Coilovers
•034 Rear Sway Bar
•034 Adjustable end links
•Stern Adjustable Upper Control Arms
•StopTech ST-60 355mm BBK (Front)
•Power Slots Slotted rotors (Rears)
•Hawks HPS brake pads (Rear)
•Goodridge Stainless Steel lines (Rear)

Other:
•RS4 Cluster
•RS4 Front seats
•RS4 Pedals
•RS4 Shifter Boot
•Bi-xenon's with Clear Corners lens
•S-line front bumper w/ titanium grill

Future Plans:
•Water/methanol




I Bought the Audi in October 2009 in upstate NY, when I was stationed in Jacksonville, FL.



After a month of ownership and I found some used RS4 reps while rocking 4x4 status


My last day in the Navy (2010)


Moved back to Colorado and installed some Stasis SS coilovers


With the very generous help of Mec, we installed Fly's Bi-xenon, PRV, and a AWE FMIC




Dyno Day, and it left me wanting MOAR!!

226 AWHP/ 271 TQ corrected

Now the car is at Blue Water Performance getting IE Rods amd JE pistons and a bunch of other parts!









As of 02/23/12 this is how the car is sitting. Waiting for the block to come back from the machine shop.

The Audi will be getting:
IE 144X20 Rods
83mm JE pistons with a 9.5:1 CR
Ultimate Rod install kit
ARP Head Stud kit
ARP Main Stud Kit
Dowel pin Kit
Machine shop: Bore the block and plane the head, Valve job, carbon clean.
Fluidampr
JHM 4:1 Diff
Stage III clutch
Clutch Masters flywheel
USP Metal Slave w/ SS line
Apikol Trans Mount
Apikol Rear diff Mount
034 Street density engine Mounts

[drumnjuny]

Awesome!!! And a long time coming for you. I'm stoked to see what you can do with the k03 over the next couple months

[Operator]

Things are looking good!!! Shoot me a pm sometime, all these trips to Denver, and we've yet to meet up, shameful!!!

[seal66]

About damn time you put a build up. Man I am excited for you on this. Can't wait to see what all that does to the car even with the little ko3 there still.

[Flexcj5]

Nice work, should be a good build, very similar to mine. If you need a torque plate for boring the motor we've got one being passed around.

[Operator]

It's a good thing your "goal" is an EFR, as those baddies are dang near on eternal backorder.

[Firefox250]

Things are looking good!!! Shoot me a pm sometime, all these trips to Denver, and we've yet to meet up, shameful!!!

Dave, are talking to Arjun or me? I've met you twice now. Thank you for the complements.

[Firefox250]

Nice work, should be a good build, very similar to mine. If you need a torque plate for boring the motor we've got one being passed around.

Hey thanks Flex, I'm actually have a machine shop Bore, plane, my engine.

[Firefox250]

It's a good thing your "goal" is an EFR, as those baddies are dang near on eternal backorder.

Are all the EFR turbos on back order? I'm hoping to buy the RAI Red label kit by the Fall 13'.

[Flexcj5]

No problem man, one thing to consider if you plan on going to a much bigger turbo you may want to go ahead with boring to 83.5 and doing pistons/rods at the same time. Its easier to do all at once.

[Operator]

Dave, are talking to Arjun or me? I've met you twice now. Thank you for the complements.

I know, but for being in the same town we need to kick off a monthly thing at least!! Rist Canyon is calling us!

[Operator]

Are all the EFR turbos on back order? I'm hoping to buy the RAI Red label kit by the Fall 13'.

Excecpt for the smallest one (6258). And the one you'll really want (7163) won't be avail until the Fall at the earliest. If you can put off the turbo until Early 14' I think it'll be there for you.

[Firefox250]

No problem man, one thing to consider if you plan on going to a much bigger turbo you may want to go ahead with boring to 83.5 and doing pistons/rods at the same time. Its easier to do all at once.

I was wonder about that, but how much would that change the car, with just running a K03? What does the compression ration change to? What pistons are you going with?

[mec]

I was wonder about that, but how much would that change the car, with just running a K03? What does the compression ration change to? What pistons are you going with?

Looking forward to this!!! Definitely sub'd!


I'm a bit confused though. You said you are getting drop-in rods but also you are getting bored? To my knowledge there aren't any pistons for the FSI that work with drop in rods. I may be wrong but definitely look into piston rod combo's before you go further. I ran into a similar issue.

Integrated will sell you 1 of 3
1.) Drop in rods - for use with only stock pistons
2.) H beam rods - capable of 700hp and works with aftermarket pistons
3.) I beam rods(tuscan) - capable of over 1000hp and works with aftermarket pistons.


#1 has the same design as #2, the differentiating factor is that #1 has a tapered entry where the rod connects to the piston. If you look at a stock piston, the area where it connects to the stock rod is not exactly a flat fit, it is more like a wedge, this is why our stock rods are also wedge shaped to fit. Most Piston manufacturers use a square entry, meaning not shaped for a wedge entry, which means that drop in rods will not work with aftermarket pistons.

What it means is that if you choose:
#1 : you can only run stock pistons, or you will have to get new rods and pistons.
#2 : You will have to buy the rods and pistons because stock pistons won't work in a #2 rod.
#3 : Same as #2, but with more strength, and also has rifle drilling for extra oiling to the bearings.

Not sure what you did and we haven't spoke in a while, but I hope you did your research! I ran into quite a lot of problems fitting my wossners into IE's tuscan rods because I was not prepared. Luckily Wossner had shipped me incorrectly labeled pistons and everything worked out beautifully in the end.

[Flexcj5]

I was wonder about that, but how much would that change the car, with just running a K03? What does the compression ration change to? What pistons are you going with?

You might notice less power with the k03 because of a slightly lower (9.5to1) compression ratio. With a lower ratio you can push the turbo harder. Im going to be breaking my motor in with a k04, then swapping up to something bigger.

Drop in rods will only work with stock pistons, if youre boring the block instead of just honing it, you will need new pistons and rods. I went with mahle pistons and IE rods.

[Firefox250]

My bad guys, I meant hone. Since I will be running a K03 until I get a bigger turbo, I'll stick with just drop-in-rods. Maybe upgrade the valve train next time.

[flyingfish2626]

Would love to meet another Fort Collins Audi nut.

[Operator]

Would love to meet another Fort Collins Audi nut.

What are you two up to on Sat.

[Firefox250]

Would love to meet another Fort Collins Audi nut.

What are you two up to on Sat.

I'd be down to meet up. I'll be driving my awesome civic though.

Side note, change of plans I'll be putting in IE 144X20 Rods and 83mm JE pistons with a 9.5:1 CR and boring the block.

[drumnjuny]

that's how it starts!!!! all you need now is valvetrain and you're ready to shoot for the stars! haha so funny, exactly the same thing happened to me.

[mec]

that's how it starts!!!! all you need now is valvetrain and you're ready to shoot for the stars! haha so funny, exactly the same thing happened to me.

if you do valvetrain you gotta delete that balance shaft shit too ;)

[Firefox250]

^^ Exactly. This whole build is based on "oh since you are doing this you might as well put this other part in".

This stage of the build is as far as I can go without blowing through my contingency budget.

[Firefox250]

Got some MOAR parts in!

[mec]

^they are so small!!! lol

What ARP's are those?

[Firefox250]

^they are so small!!! lol

What ARP's are those?

They are Cam tower bolts.

[ericpaulyoung]

I don't think cam tower, as the shoulders On them won't fit the three bolts nearest the vacuum pump.
Eric

[Firefox250]

I don't think cam tower, as the shoulders On them won't fit the three bolts nearest the vacuum pump.
Eric

There are, I just called to confirm. I wonder if the three bolts in the middle of the package are the specificity ment to go near the vacuum pump?

[drumnjuny]

interesting

[mec]

I hate that integrated called them that! Cam girdle bolts sounds so much more appropriate. I bought three sets of these bolts, definitely could have used some reusable ARP's if I knew they existed.

[drumnjuny]

yeah haha i remember having that conversation like whaaa?

[ericpaulyoung]

Pull them out and check for us. I like them!

[Firefox250]

Excecpt for the smallest one (6258). And the one you'll really want (7163) won't be avail until the Fall at the earliest. If you can put off the turbo until Early 14' I think it'll be there for you.

Operator you have me intrigued. I really hope I can get a EFR 7163 now!

[Operator]

Operator you have me intrigued. I really hope I can get a EFR 7163 now!

Yeh, it's the best of both worlds!!!!! Ideally the best EFR for our car!!!! Better find a shop to get 1st in line with though. AGP, Full-Race, RAI, and I think Treadstone would be good places to start.

[Firefox250]

I really appreciate your input Dave! I'll email those companies to see if they can help me.

[ericpaulyoung]

EFR are for girly men. Real men run GTX!

$$

[mec]

EFR are for girly men. Real men run GTX!

$$

[Operator]

EFR's are the Shizzzille

Truth!!!!

[mec]

EFR are for manly girls. Real men run GTX!

$$

And pick up your posters Dave!

[mec]

I feel like everyone is under the impression that the gtx won't work under 20 psi, but to be fair, at 20 psi a gtx will blow a k03 out of the water. The issue is that a gtx is most efficient at higher boost such as 25psi, that's where the juice starts flowing, but the turbo is solid, it's still will put down a good amount of power below 25 psi. Much more than any k03 would. It's not like the CHRA is just frozen until 25psi builds, its all progressive.

[ericpaulyoung]

The thing people miss is that the GTX isn't just more efficient at higher boost levels, check the compressor charts, it is more efficient EVERYWHERE.

:)