IE vs Pauter rods

[aysix]

Seems as if the integrated engineering rods have been the most recent choice lately from what I can see.

With a bit of research, i have found that the Pauter rods are a bit more "quality".

$900 IE's: http://www.intengineering.com/integr...r-12v-30v.html

$1300 Pauter: http://www.034motorsport.com/engine-...6-p-18630.html



What justifies the extra $400 for the pauter?

[richmonds4]

Made in usa !!!

[sean01S4]

http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/product...0V-56-118.html

809$ ie rods

[RudeJude518]

I'm interested in hearing the differences and which rods people think are better.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

wow IE is charging $900 now for China rods!!

[happy2B5]

Rosten, rpm are a couple other choices to research.

I'll take Pauter for $400 more please

[aysix]

wow IE is charging $900 now for China rods!!

Wait, what? Rebranded Chinese rods? Sounds like you have a source for cheaper.

[happy2B5]

Wait, what? Rebranded Chinese rods? Sounds like you have a source for cheaper.

Or just pointing out they are Chinese? Or was that common knowledge? Not bashing, just curious. I mean is there a reported high failure rate with ie rods? If not then why not save the $400? I am interested too as this may be in my future as well. But if there is a clear better proven track record for other maybe more expensive options then I will spend the few hundred more.

[A62TURBO]

IE rods are made in china?

[Scotty@Advanced]

IE rods are made in china?

From what I understand IE rod blanks are sourced from China and finished in the USA.

[S4 00 2.7]

IE rods can do the job just fine. Save the extra cash for something else.

[ravensB5S4]

If you are going to take the time to put rods in why not put the best you can get :s.

[bigern45]

well doesnt pauter help with less weight on the rotating assembly? im not sure.. that may be something to think about as well, especially if going lightweight pistons and what not..

every little bit helps..

[aysix]

If you are going to take the time to put rods in why not put the best you can get :s.

Orly? Hm, wonder why I made this thread

whats the best I can get?

[haggard69er]

Pauter rods: lighter, Ibeam, can support 1000hp
IE rods: heavier than pauter and stock rods, h-beam, can support around 700-800hp

[rockcandy]

Pauter rods: lighter, Ibeam, can support 1000hp
IE rods: heavier than pauter and stock rods, h-beam, can support around 700-800hp

Data to support this?

[arotished]

For me the choice were simple, pauter all the way!

Or if you have deep pocket and feel alittle dirty, carrillo rods :)

[Audi_S4]

Pauter rods: lighter, Ibeam, can support 1000hp
IE rods: heavier than pauter and stock rods, h-beam, can support around 700-800hp

My buddie just measured his and his IE's are lighter then stock

[arotished]

These are the weight I found when I was looking for rods 2 years ago.

-Stock 2.7T rod/no rod bolt: 529 grams
-Pauter standard 2.7L rod/no rod bolts: 530 grams (3.0L version is shorter so they are lighter)
-VAST standard 2.7L H-beam rods/no rod bolts: 515 grams
-VAST custom 3.0L stroker H-beam rod/no rod bolts: 479 grams
-Rosten Connection Rods/no rod bolt: 542 grams
-IE Connection Rods/no rod bolt: 555 grams
-Custom carrillo rods/no bolts: 440 grams
-RPM rods/no bolts - 523 grams

[arotished]

My buddie just measured his and his IE's are lighter then stock

JHM weighed these rod (IE) vs. stock and they about 12 grams heavier per rod. This weight can be easily counteracted with our lighter JE Pistons

[somedude]

does anyone make aluminum rods for the 2.7?

[Scotty@Advanced]

does anyone make aluminum rods for the 2.7?

You can probably get them made, but since aluminium rods have a defined life, they aren't good for street car unless you want to re rod the engine every so often.

If you want the absolute lightest rod.. Go for Titanium.. But plan on spending $1000 a rod.

[haggard69er]

The data is scattered all over the place. Pauters have been proven many times, as far as IE rods go, give them a call.

[itguy]

JK3-6063H http://www.racingpartsmaximum.com/importrod.html

[Cacti]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-Beam-Audi-...b963d1&vxp=mtr

Anyone tried these?

[MikeyB3]

IE rods can do the job just fine. Save the extra cash for something else.

Agreed. I have IE rods in my 770 car, not worried about them. At all.

[joeSfour]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-Beam-Audi-...b963d1&vxp=mtr

Anyone tried these?

You should try them out...No way I am exposing my motor to these.

[aysix]

You should try them out...No way I am exposing my motor to these.

Lmao, funny thing is the picture of those look like they have a hairline crack in them.

[GURUMAN]

I was running 034 Rods in previous 650 whp engine without issues ( arp 2000 bolts )

This time engine will revv a little higher, so I went IE rods with arp 625 bolts.



Since the S4 community is almost totally filled with E opinions, go search what the IE rod does in the 1.8T

[s4andtls]

CUSTOM AGE 625 PLUS®: This newly formulated super-alloy demonstrates superior fatigue cycle life, tensile strength and toughness – with complete resistance to atmospheric corrosion and oxidation. ARP is the first to develop manufacturing and testing processes for fasteners with Custom Age 625+. Best of all it is less expensive and expected to soon replace MP-35 as the material of choice in the high strength, super-alloy field. Typical tensile strength is 260,000-280,000 psi.

[rtl5009]

Lmao, funny thing is the picture of those look like they have a hairline crack in them.

That hair line crack you are talking about is where the rod cap mates with the rod. The rod cap is removable so the bearing can be placed and the rod can be affixed to the crank.

No offense, but if you don't know that, stick with the IEs they are more than you will ever need.

[rtl5009]

JK3-6063H http://www.racingpartsmaximum.com/importrod.html

These are legit, however they do need the wrist pin hole honed. They are a little snug for a turbo charged application. Heat = donzies.

[ravensB5S4]

Some ppl have also had issues with the H-beams on 3.0L strokers and custom pistons. Mmm love shaving piston skirts.

[aysix]

That hair line crack you are talking about is where the rod cap mates with the rod. The rod cap is removable so the bearing can be placed and the rod can be affixed to the crank.

No offense, but if you don't know that, stick with the IEs they are more than you will ever need.

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Why would you say that? That means I shouldn't get pauter rods because of what I said? Some of the local guys are saying to get the Pauter. I do know those caps come apart, just over looked it at that point...

Gonna get the IE's simply because I know they work & when i have an excuse to pull the motor again...their gonna go in.

[stew44]

^facepalm

[aysix]

^facepalm

if you have nothing to contribute to this thread, go elsewhere.

[jibberjive]

Data to support this?

2nd

Since the S4 community is almost totally filled with E opinions, go search what the IE rod does in the 1.8T

Big 2nd.

[Ribbie]

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Why would you say that? That means I shouldn't get pauter rods because of what I said? Some of the local guys are saying to get the Pauter. I do know those caps come apart, just over looked it at that point...

Gonna get the IE's simply because I know they work & when i have an excuse to pull the motor again...their gonna go in.

Ya maybe he was a little internet rude but lately it seems par for the course. To me that is wrong, andI have seen it happen to all platforms that have come down in price. It's really too bad.

The hairline crack is just that. The rod is cast as one piece to ensure the metal is of the same density of material, etc, etc. Then after machining the rod is opnened so you and I can insert bearings.

[Ribbie]

S4 community is almost totally filled with E opinions, go search what the IE rod does in the 1.8T

This has been true and I think the sinking of this platform as a whole.

I know thread jacking. Sorry.

[ravensB5S4]

Yeah damn these people and their opinions, they are sinking the B5 S4 platform and the whole fucking world :(