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    LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

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    Tools needed:
    At least 3 flathead screwdrivers
    a phillips head screwdriver
    a DW300 LPFP kit
    a hammer
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    Make sure your gas tank is as empty as possible. I had like an 1/8 of a tank, and there was still a lot of fuel in there.

    Ok, so the DW300 comes with 2 hose clamps, a filter, a worthless 3" piece of tubing, a lock washer, and wiring harness:



    You can set aside the tubing, you will reuse the stock tubing.

    You will start by removing the rear seat bottom. You pretty much just pull up with force by hand, but one side got stuck and I needed leverage. There is a clip on each side, pretty much here:



    Lift up from the front. The back is not held in by anything. If you have heated rear seats like me, then you will have one wiring harness to disconnect on the driver's side, and 2 wiring harnesses to disconnect on the passenger side. Set seat aside.

    Now, on the passenger side, remove the 3 phillips screws holding the lid on the LPFP compartment:



    Inside, you will find a shit load of dirt. This thing is supposed to be green:



    Spray the shit out of it with brake cleaner and try to absorb as much dirt/grime as possible. It will eventually turn green:



    There are two fuel line connections and one electrical connection on top. The electrical connection must be pushed in, and pull the tab to remove, just like the coilpack connections.

    The fuel line connection already removed in the above picture is very easy. Push in on the blue tab on each side at the same time with the 2 flathead screwdrivers, and pull up. It should pop right up. The same technique does not apply for the other one. The other connection requires 3 hands. One must push down on the fuel line with quite a bit of force. It will move ~.25". Once it is pushed all the way down, the same technique with the 2 screwdrivers may now be applied.

    Once all three connections are removed, you will need to unlock the ring holding the whole thing in place. Place the flathead screwdriver on one of the tabs on the locking ring, and tap it with the hammer in a counter-clockwise direction. It will need to move 1-2 cm. You'll see it. It will make sense, I promise. With this ring off, the whole top will be able to be pulled out, and the basket down below holding the pump will just be floating around. There is a bunch of shit attached between them too.



    The black corrugated hose will just pull out of the basket assembly, and the skinny orange hose has a compression fitting that will come apart. Then you can pull the whole basket out, being careful of the floaty arm thingy. Lol. That will pull straight up and out of the basket as well to make it easier. There is also a rubber ring that sits between the hole in the car and the green part. We found it easiest to pull this up and around all the stuff before we removed the rest of it all.

    Be careful, the entire basket is completely full of gas, I just carefully dumped it all back into the tank, and soaked up the mess with paper towels.

    With everything removed, you can take it inside where it is warm, and sit down and learn patience.

    So here's what you have to work with:



    Cut and remove the one use clamps on the big fuel lines at the top of the stock pump. You will reuse this fuel line, but will toss the skinny one. Keep the skinny one attached to the pump, as you will use it to help pull it out. It will not be reused after this. Pull out the two electrical connections from the pump. The black thing with the turquoise and black wires is the floaty thing. This is just set down in the basket into a bracket, and slides right out.

    Now you should just have the basket and the pump, free from the green thing and all the wires and tubes. The pump is held in by a circular plastic piece, that is basically 3 tabs locking the pump in by a single rib it has around it's circumference. We had to shove a flathead screwdriver inside each tab simultaneously and yank the pump out. We did not break anything by doing this.

    Here is a picture with the pump removed, to help you see what I am talking about:



    The black part at the top of the basket, and the black part in the middle of the basket holding the pump, are two separate pieces, but are permanently connected to the basket. We tried many different ways to attach the filter to the bottom of the pump and then insert it, but couldn't find any way possible to do this. The pump must be inserted, and the filter must be placed on the bottom of the pump while inside the basket. The only way we could possibly do this, was to remove the topmost black part. It fits tightly, even with the permanent contact points removed. You can see from the outside, the dark silhouette of the three contact points for the cap that are "welded" together. Use light force with a flathead to wiggle, and snap these parts apart, and lift the top out:



    On the bottom of the DW300 pump, there is a plastic guide pin, to help with the orientation of the filter. With this suggested orientation, there is no way in hell that the pump will fit with the filter on:



    With the pump in the center, where it goes, the filter overlapped the edge of the basket by almost an inch. Slight modification must be done to the bottom of the pump to make this work.

    Here is the suggested orientation:



    Here is the basic orientation we found worked:



    The center pin must be removed, and one of the three "feet" must be removed to be able to push the filter on all the way at this orientation:



    Keep in mind, we could not find a way, without completely cutting into the part that holds the pump (which we thought was fairly important to keep in tact), to install the pump with the filter on it. So, with the pump secured to the filter, we marked it with a marker for alignment purposes.

    So, with seal66's magic fingers, he slid the filter inside the basket, and held it up with his fingers, then slowls pressed on the pump from the top. Then, with everything inside, I used the mechanic's best friend (coat hanger) to pull up on the hoop (the one the guide pin should have been in) on the filter, while we pressed down on the pump to ensure it's tightest fit.



    That is the hardest part of everything. Then, you can place the top black part back down into the basket. Cut the stock wiring, leaving as long a wire as possible for the pump. The polarity of the wiring is on the underside of the green cap:



    You will only be cutting the larger gauge black and yellow wiring. Solder these wires into the harness provided in the DW300 kit. Do not reverse polarity, or the pump will run backwards. lol. Heat shrink the crap out of these, as tape will probably not work when submerged in fuel for the rest of it's life. Then you can push the orange fuel line down onto the new pump and hose clamp it.

    Put everything back. You will push the corrugated black tube back where it belongs, but the other one will just be left hanging. Get the basket back into the fuel tank. Don't forget to put the rubber ring back between the seat bottome and the green lid. It's a little tricky, as the ring seems a little larger than the hole, so ensure that you have a good seal before you tighten it all back up. Then find the correct orientation of the guide rods from the green lid. They will only fit down into the basket one way. The green lid will only fit flush against the seat bottom at one direction, so once you have the rubber ring in place, and the guide rods inserted into the basket, you can turn everything by twisting the green top.

    You will need two people to complete the last part as well. The green lid is slightly spring loaded, so once you have it at the correct orientation, you must push it down rather hard, while you push the metal lock ring down on top of it, and have the other person tap it back clockwise to lock it in. Connect the two fuel lines and the wiring harness. I primed the pump about 5 times, by turning the key to on, then back off several times. Then I cranked it and it started right up. Make sure there are no leaks, then replace the black lid with the 3 phillips screws. Put your seat back. Done.

    Comments, insight, tips, and criticism all welcome. I will post up my feelings of results and differences if any once I have had some time behind the wheel to discern any changes for sure.

    Thankyou to Draklore for supplying the pump, and seal66 for your help.
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    It was fun and mind boggling at some points during the install. But, we got her! Now we have to do mine when I get it Jon lol.
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    Thanx for great write-up Jr . I just ordered one for myself and hopefully I will get a chance to mess with it the next week.
    Btw, I found a one that comes with the different kind of sock filter and I hope that it makes the installation easier.
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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    That looks more usable. Lol.

    New update!

    The small tube that you do notbend up using again is how the driver side pump feeds fuel over to the passenger side. In the middle of the gas tank there is a small hump. Because the fuel does not get pumped over straight into the lpfp, you won't be able to completely use the bottom of the tank. I found this out the hard way today, when I ran out of gas in the middle of the street, and my computer still read 40 mi to empty. Just a word of warning!

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    Does it hold pressure better at WOT?
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    So would the DS pump
    Instead just pump it into the PS tank?
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    Great writeup! looks like an easy install now that there is a guide.

    What's the deal on that upgrade? sounds like your gauge will not read properly after 1/8th of a tank is left. Or is it just that you forgot to connect a hose?

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by ericpaulyoung View Post
    Does it hold pressure better at WOT?
    - Eric
    Yes. Before, at wot, my lpfp pressure would dip down under 4 bar and hold at like 3.7, 3.8 bar. Now it does not go below 4.2, 4.3 bar at wot.

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by DRAKLORE View Post
    So would the DS pump
    Instead just pump it into the PS tank?
    Yes. I'm thinking you could still rig it to hook that hoseb up so that it at least dumps into the basket maybe.

    Martin, on the oem pump, bthere is a line that feeds from the drivers side directly into the lpfp. The upgraded pump does not allow this attachment, do the hose stays unattached.

    Really no sweat off my back, just will be filling up a little earlier now. Lol.

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    I wish I could do this but I think I need the LPFP and I also need the fuel level sensor on the pump so I will have to just order a new oem LPFP since it comes with the sensor.

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    I wish I could do this but I think I need the LPFP and I also need the fuel level sensor on the pump so I will have to just order a new oem LPFP since it comes with the sensor.
    The sensor remains, chris. The original one is kept.

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    I know it remains that is the problem. My sensor is bad and I think the only way to get a new sensor is to buy the lpfp, it comes attached to the pump.

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    I know it remains that is the problem. My sensor is bad and I think the only way to get a new sensor is to buy the lpfp, it comes attached to the pump.
    Oh, got it. Doh.

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    PM KC-Iceman. He just replaced the whole thing. Maybe he still has the old assembly?

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    I am just stage 1 and for about $160 I think I can get a new LPFP and the sensor and hopefully that fixes it. I have not had a fuel gauge that works in about 2 years.

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    I am just stage 1 and for about $160 I think I can get a new LPFP and the sensor and hopefully that fixes it. I have not had a fuel gauge that works in about 2 years.
    Iceman just stated in his thread that he still has the entire old assembly, and is wanting to get rid of it, sensor and all

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    Maybe but I may just want to spend the money and not have to mess with it again.

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    got mine on!
    woooot is better, in 3rd gear pulls more in higher rpm

    thanks to jim & shane for answering my questions as always.

    we should do a comparison on when people run out of gas too, i bend my sender rod, but have yet to test when i actually run out of fuel
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    Got mine installed earlier and that shit was PITA for me. Hooked the wires wrong and plugged the wrong hose into the fitting that orange hose go to. I was trying to figure out what went wrong for like couple hours.
    After that took her to the little test drive and WOT is really alot better + as Mc Suly said I was going 100 mph on the end of 3rd gear; that shit got me scared for a bit lol.
    Negative side is that the fuel sensor shows 1/8 tank low less than what it suppose to be onthe full fuel tank.
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    great setup! for those of you not looking to modify you factory pump, we have a drop in replacement we will be offering next week

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    Does your pump come with the sensors?

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    you will need to unplug your factory level sender and it will plug directly into the new pump basket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg@USP View Post
    you will need to unplug your factory level sender and it will plug directly into the new pump basket
    Will it display fuel level properly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mec View Post
    Will it display fuel level properly?
    sure will

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericpaulyoung View Post
    What pump will it use?
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    it uses an oem pump in oem basket.

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    great setup! for those of you not looking to modify you factory pump, we have a drop in replacement we will be offering next week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg@USP View Post
    it uses an oem pump in oem basket.
    So it will be an option to the RS4 controller? Nice, those suckers are hard to come by, and a domestic source for the hardware would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericpaulyoung View Post
    So it will be an option to the RS4 controller? Nice, those suckers are hard to come by, and a domestic source for the hardware would be nice.
    Eric
    i am waiting on the flow numbers to come back so i can give exact numbers, but testing in the car is very promising

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    i have a feeling my stock LPFP is going to give in in the next 20k miles ... that'll be 100k, with 30k tuned and 20k BT w/ the higher amp wire running the pump overtime lol...

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    I am going to finally do this to my car soon lol
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    our pump is now available for sale

    http://uspmotorsports.com/USP-Drop-I...7-Quattro.html

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    That's awesome that there is finally a drop in, oem style upgraded lpfp now!

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    Thank you for the excellent DIY, I used it when I replaced my LPFP today and found your instructions very helpful. The 'black' three-handed fuel connector is actually pretty easy, just push down and hold a screwdriver in one hand, and open it from the othe side.

    Take care with the gasket! For some reason the OEM gasket I bought with the pump did'nt fit that closely, because I had a fuel leak. The whole green tray was filled to the brim, and more had pured over the side of the tank. Replaced it with the old gasket, which looked fine anyways and fit perfectly.

    What happens if the black corrugated hose becomes dislodged? I have 3/4 tank and it almost seems like I get misfires after left turns - coincidence or will the basket drain that fast?

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    Re: LPFP AWD DW300 Upgrade

    Strange you should ask that. I get "fuel cuts" when I am below half tank all of a sudden. I believe they are air bubbles getting into the system. It's this what you are experiencing?
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    Yes, it might be. For some reason I get stuttering and even misfires with CEL if I use a good amount of throttle going through left turns. I'm below half tank now and it seems to be getting better, so I wonder if I got water into the tank while driving with a poor-fitting gasket on the LPFP.

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    You know what - I just had fuel cuts with a quarter tank, and it disappeared after I filled it up. Maybe it actually does suck air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvitrafn View Post
    You know what - I just had fuel cuts with a quarter tank, and it disappeared after I filled it up. Maybe it actually does suck air.
    This is what I'm thinking. What did you do with the extra hose from the drivers side? I just left it hanging in there and didn't do anything with it.
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    I went with a stock pump so I stuck the black corrugated hose back like it was stock.

    In other news, I filled up the car and dumped a quart or two of fuel. I guess it's still leaking from the gasket. Are there revisions to the tank or pumps? It's a simple gasket, how hard can it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrobbington View Post
    Yes. I'm thinking you could still rig it to hook that hoseb up so that it at least dumps into the basket maybe.

    Martin, on the oem pump, bthere is a line that feeds from the drivers side directly into the lpfp. The upgraded pump does not allow this attachment, do the hose stays unattached.

    Really no sweat off my back, just will be filling up a little earlier now. Lol.

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    Hmm.. Interesting is there one more sock filter in DS tank?
    And is it possible to attach second hose by some adapter, that bifurcate on sock filter and second hose?

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