The Official B7 A4 Dyno Thread

[slvrb7]

Yeah I'm Apr stage 2+ made 221awhp and 255awtq on mustang dyno a little above sea level and not on a completely cold car and a.c running.

[slvrb7]

Even though I have upgraded dsmic from ER heatsoak still kicked in.

[wootwoot]

Yeah I'm Apr stage 2+ made 221awhp and 255awtq on mustang dyno a little above sea level and not on a completely cold car and a.c running.

Post the graph! I'm looking at going stage 2+ APR as well.

[slvrb7]

Ill try to post the graph today if my scanner works. The numbers are very conservative but i was told they would be especially on a mustang dyno the operator told me my third run was the best but my graph says differently i would say 2nd run was not as good as the 1st and 3rd.

[Firefox250]

Slvrb7, I'm guessing your in California, and was running with 91 Octane?

MOAR DYNOS!

[slvrb7]

100 and 91 mix ratio = about 95 and used 93 octane mode

[slvrb7]

I just wish APR would be a little less conservative and tweak the software for people with upgraded intercoolers :).

[jimrobbington]

There is also an apr 2+ dyno on the first page that ran 211/287 . I can't wait to see what revo 2+ will do for me, considering I'm at 221/302 now. Apr really isn't made for true performance.

[slvrb7]

how is everyone pushing so much torque? i am still trying to figure out why im so low on the torque curve

[slvrb7]

There is also an apr 2+ dyno on the first page that ran 211/287 . I can't wait to see what revo 2+ will do for me, considering I'm at 221/302 now. Apr really isn't made for true performance.

im thinking your pushing that much torque because of your upgraded clutch im still running stock clutch and can't handle the actual torque that i could possibly lay down.

[jimrobbington]

im thinking your pushing that much torque because of your upgraded clutch im still running stock clutch and can't handle the actual torque that i could possibly lay down.

Also, revo is known to be more torquey, and I have adjusted my wastegate slightly.

[slvrb7]

302 is a lot more torquey thats 47 more ft/lbs then APR which equates 0-60 faster.;)

[slvrb7]

what dyno program did you use JIM?

[jimrobbington]

what dyno program did you use JIM?

UNCORRECTED puts me at 250 wtq, AT ALMOST 6000 ft.

[wootwoot]

302 is a lot more torquey thats 47 more ft/lbs then APR which equates 0-60 faster.;)

You should try adjusting your wastegate, it won't cost you anything and give you more torque. Jim has a great thread about this in the forum.

[slvrb7]

that explains it mine are uncorrected numbers

[jimrobbington]

that explains it mine are uncorrected numbers

You are also at sea level though. BIG difference. NA cars lose 15%-18% power up here. Turbo cars, not as much, but highly noticable. My carbon build up is really bad too, and will be taking care of that soon. I hope to get a fmic next and a stage 1 hpfpupgrade pump, then I'll dyno again when I have that system perfected. Then someday meth and another dyno. My goal is the fastest/highest milage stock turbo b7. Shooting for 325chp/400ctq.

[slvrb7]

[fordyoz]

Yeah I'm Apr stage 2+ made 221awhp and 255awtq on mustang dyno a little above sea level and not on a completely cold car and a.c running.

My APR Stage 2+ put down 184whp and 224wtrq on RAI's dyno.

and then the next day, same car same dyno... but now with Maestro Stage 2 Base file 192 whp /224 wtrq


and then after adding the Eurodyne Boost Manager + Meth Kit and a few more Maestro tuning revisions, the final numbers were 211whp and 249wtq (same dyno)

performance mods: 034 HFC, Stasis Exhaust, Autospeed Performance HPFP, 150bar rail valve, RAI FMIC, Eurodyne Boost Manager Plus Meth Kit, Maestro tuned by RAI

[slvrb7]

Damn should prob stop my bitching haha

[Firefox250]

I'm starting to really doubt my dyno numbers. I want to find a Mustang dyno.

[Italiano]

So I have seen a few dyno charts pop up where they start with one tune say APR and then get a new flash, same car, same dyno and we can compare. This is the most helpful so it's apples to apples, any one see data on multiple software dyno'ed on the same car? I would love to see a head to head chart of APR vs Unitronic vs GIAC vs Revo!!!!

[fordyoz]

unfortunately i dont think there any many examples of same car same dyno software comparisons

[Italiano]

I only found this one so far, very helpful though.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...nitronic-tunes

[slvrb7]

Well the difference between GIAC and the others is that GIAC has different mappings for the mods that you have on your car. Like since i have upgraded DSMIC then that would be put into the tune. In APRs case it's not built into the mapping. That's my understanding from a GIAC dealer here in CA.

[Italiano]

I guess i just want a true data comparison rather then A.) BS Marketing numbers B.) Dyno numbers with so many variables (elevation, dyno type etc).

Funny thing is, this would put all the S**T talking to bed! A straight up head to head battle same car, same dyno, 4 Tuners fight to the death lol

[fordyoz]

which is why Maestro is the way to go, because you can customize it exactly how you want it.

[fordyoz]

I guess i just want a true data comparison rather then A.) BS Marketing numbers B.) Dyno numbers with so many variables (elevation, dyno type etc).

Funny thing is, this would put all the S**T talking to bed! A straight up head to head battle same car, same dyno, 4 Tuners fight to the death lol

i think its pretty known that revo is one of the stronger ones and apr is one of the more conservative ones.

[slvrb7]

From what i have seen and heard i agree about APR being more conservative. Which isn't bad if you want the car to last, but sucks if you just want to go fast and have the ultimate sleeper car.

[Rastboostin]

They look pretty similar to me.

[DRAKLORE]

it takes a lot more than a 20WHP difference to show on the street... or in a race.
even cars within 50whp of each other will be very similar on the street, drivers make a huge difference...

[devvan]

They look pretty similar to me.

You should mention that the APR one has FMIC and the revo doesnt..

[drumnjuny]

lmao. true test of which tune is better. run two totally different cars with different supporting mods next to each other

[jimrobbington]

I would be down to run my car against an apr 2+ car. I bet it would look about the same, even though I'm just revo 2.

[Firefox250]

I would be down to run my car against an apr 2+ car. I bet it would look about the same, even though I'm just revo 2.

I thought Mec was Apr 2+. That would be awesome to watch!

[jimrobbington]

I thought Mec was Apr 2+. That would be awesome to watch!

Wouldn't be fair. Lol. Mec has had boost issues since the dawn of time. Hence the engine/turbo build.

[wootwoot]

Wouldn't be fair. Lol. Mec has had boost issues since the dawn of time. Hence the engine/turbo build.

Jim it wouldn't be fair to have you go against someone with APR unless they adjusted their wastegate as you have. While I do believe that Revo puts out more power your adjusted wastegate adds to that power and wouldn't be an accurate comparison.

[jimrobbington]

Jim it wouldn't be fair to have you go against someone with APR unless they adjusted their wastegate as you have. While I do believe that Revo puts out more power your adjusted wastegate adds to that power and wouldn't be an accurate comparison.

It would be as fair as the video comparison posted above! Lol.

[wootwoot]

It would be as fair as the video comparison posted above! Lol.

You got me there, hehe. If you're ever in Phoenix we can do some runs. I'm stage 2+ APR, not sure if you're ever around these parts though.

[seal66]

John how about we do some runs with your car against mine.