The Ultimate Coilover Poll

[Turkish]

Currently riding on H&R's with stock struts (gotta get rid of em!)

Narrowed down to Stasis vs Vogtland.

Car is a DD and I dont mind the harsh ride, Audis have got to handle better than this.

[LJH]

I would not saythe ones you listed are the tops in quality, you forgot Ohlin's which by every account are unbelievable but also big $$$$.

With that being said I did not have $3K+ to spend on suspension so I ended up getting the Vogtland GT's. I have to say they are not bad for a street car that will do some Auto-X and a track day here and there. I have not tried any other but did a lot of research. I am running them with a Neuspeed 22MM rear bar and the car is very nicely ballanced now.

Cheers,
Jim

[casawhites4]

dumb post. lol...
its like saying you want a Porsche boxster, or Porsche turbo

[ChumbaWumba]

sweet casted my vote =) even though the cars gone....i still got the coils in my garage a-ha

[A62TURBO]

PSS9's

[S-Power]

PSS9's

PSS9's +1000000000

[Kruat]

Not enough choices...

I'd vote PSS9's or 10's, or the the stasis/ohlins combo...

[TPC303]

Pss9's

[s2the4]

As many guys know on the forum (at least I would hope) that stasis has specifically made the their suspension for the B5. As to which is better well it all depends on how much money you are willing to part with. The tracksports are about 1895 last time I checked and the Vogtland GT's are between 1295-1395 from startup racing depending on if a group buy is available. (I believe some advertiser listed them on sale recently for 949, might be wrong on price but in that ball park. I moved from the Stasis Street sports to now my Vogtland GT's I really like them however it seems like to me that due to high spring rates in the rear that this is causing some clunking when I go over bumps. Never had that problem with Street Sports. I have been told that there are 3 remedies, place cardboard between the springs in the rear. replace all the screws that hold the spindle to the sub-frame, and lastly because ride height is lowered on most everyone that has complained about this the exhaust begins either rubbing against something which makes the clunk. That is what I know about the GT setup. I have only heard good things about the trackssports in terms of none of the clunking sounds. But I do hear that the tracksports are pretty miserable to drive on bumpy roads like here in western mass. If you track the car stasis if you want everyday driveability the vogtland with a nice beefy rear sway bar in my opinion ~ 22mm.

[Europowerhaus]

Startup Racing Penskes FTW!

[Turtle]

^^^never had that problem with my Vogland GTs.


OP, I love the ride of my coils. And I'm picky

[s2the4]

^^^never had that problem with my Vogland GTs.


OP, I love the ride of my coils. And I'm picky

lets seee your ride height please!

[Dr. Jekyll]

Ohlins are the Ultimate. The best of the "cheap" suspensions is probably the Vogtland GT's

[JaredVL]

there is only one true system for the s4, the stasis ohlins MS

do it once, do it right

[mholme]

there is only one true system for the s4, the stasis ohlins MS

do it once, do it right

Game, set, match.

[OneSickSedan]

Hey Jared how often do Ohlins need maintenance? I have the 800/1000 setup and I'm switching to 600/700 because it was a little too stiff and now I'm gonna start driving the car everyday.

I've had the suspension for 2 and a 1/2 years but have only put about 6k miles(only street driven) on them. I'm having them switched out at WMS over the weekend. Is there anything else I should have done or worry about? Thanks.

[Turkish]

Thanks for all the valuable info guys!
Suspension is one of THE MOST important upgrades, so all the input is much appreciated!

PS
1- Id like to stay under $1500
2- I live in Minnesota I need durable COs (salt kills em')

[Bimmerchop]

I love my stasis ohlins motorsports, should be up there on the list

[lnferno]

Penske Challenge Kit. A bit pricey though -- $1000 per corner.

[NOVAS4]

i have h&r's and love them honestly alittle harsh i think.. but have never driven in anyothers so cant compare..

[Rapter]

^^^never had that problem with my Vogland GTs.


OP, I love the ride of my coils. And I'm picky

Same here I was shocked at how good the ride is with the Gt's. Also I think I'm riding a little lower than some which impresses me even more that they don't go to absolute shit the lower they go.

[Turkish]

Where can I find the Vogtland GTs for a fair price?

[BlkdoutS4]

Where can I find the Vogtland GTs for a fair price?

you can only get them through Startup Racing

umm.. you should probably jump on them cause their website says they are on sale for $1200

http://shop.startupracing.com/produc...4&productId=10

[Siena]

Bilstein PSS9 / 10.

[skunkoncrunk]

PSS9's are great coilovers but I voted for the Streetsports since I'm rockin' those.

[S4_NE]

check out the Eibach pro streets, stainless steel shocks and Eibach springs, They work well for me in the north east and the ride is pretty stiff but fo ra daily driver/weekend twist car it works for me along with my h&r front sway and neuspeed rear sway

[FrnkWhte]

Thanks to this thread I now know the difference between the regular Vogtland and Vogtland GT.. I always seen people mention then loved the GT but when I searched online and from vendors only found the non GT one. Its a good thing the holiday sale from one of the sponsors ended before I had the cash to spend on coilovers as they had they didnt have GT's which I thought were the same ones at the time. Today I went to startupracings site and read all I needed to know and couldnt beat the price so I jumped right on it :) I couldnt afford the price for Ohlins and heard nothing but great reviews about the GT's so thumbs up to this thread!!

[CruzS4]

if you don't have any dependents, or haven't recently experienced a windfall of cash, i haven't had a problem with KW Variant 1

[Turkish]

Startup has the Vogtland GTs for $1,199.
They're on the list, Along with SS, DTS and chrome mirrors.

Poll threads have always made buying easier.
Just search till it hurts then put up a poll of your finalists.

[BlkdoutS4]

Thanks to this thread I now know the difference between the regular Vogtland and Vogtland GT.. I always seen people mention then loved the GT but when I searched online and from vendors only found the non GT one. Its a good thing the holiday sale from one of the sponsors ended before I had the cash to spend on coilovers as they had they didnt have GT's which I thought were the same ones at the time. Today I went to startupracings site and read all I needed to know and couldnt beat the price so I jumped right on it :) I couldnt afford the price for Ohlins and heard nothing but great reviews about the GT's so thumbs up to this thread!!

you'll love them! i do..

[curlyfrieS4]

Hey can you post a picture of your car with your H&R springs and stock struts?

[Boris]

there is only one true system for the s4, the stasis ohlins MS

do it once, do it right

man speaks truth. Snow trooper rocks your face! A cascade of digital piss all over! The moon rulez!

[FrnkWhte]

you'll love them! i do..

BlkdoutA4 could you post pics of your ride height with the GT's installed?

[BlkdoutS4]

BlkdoutA4 could you post pics of your ride height with the GT's installed?

i dont have them super low at the moment cause i go up to the snow abunch but heres how they sit currently:

[Turkish]

^^^
Dats how low my car sits with my current set-up

I LOVE IT!!!

[Brian@AR]

There are alot of suspensions to choose from, it just depends on what you want out of your suspension. Are you going to track your car (not drag racing)? If you are then I would go with a custom Tein set up for around 1500 or the stasis tracksport but cost a little more. You have three spring choices with the Stasis kit and what ever spring rates you want with the Tein (I could take care of that for you). Both of those have rebound adjustability in which the Vogtland GT's and Stasis streetsport do not.

If you are just driving on the street then a Tein Basic or maybe a Vogtland kit and the Stasis streetsport (I have no experience with those later two however) would get the job done. No need for a expensive kit (unless you want the bling points) for the street as its just a waist of money.

I do have many years of track testing the Teins (among many others, mostly on BMW's and a few other makes) in which I have found to be awesome on the street and track. I have help tune a few Stasis Motorsports on the track but for the money its just not worth it unless you are racing full time. I have never tuned or installed a Vogtland kit so I can't give you any info on those. PSS9's are terrible for tracking (I have pulled many off to replace with a Tein or custom Tein set up). Anyway, with trying to keep this short just figure out what you want to do with your car and go from there. If you need any help or have in depth questions I would be glad to help out. And good luck with your choice.

Thanks for all the valuable info guys!
Suspension is one of THE MOST important upgrades, so all the input is much appreciated!

PS
1- Id like to stay under $1500
2- I live in Minnesota I need durable COs (salt kills em')

[Brian@AR]

NICE. Thats a good clean stance. I like it and don't change a thing.

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[FrnkWhte]

Thats odd.. I have not heard anything good about Teins on our cars, more on the lines of "I cant wait to get rid of this setup"..

[Brian@AR]

I have not heard much about Teins at all on the Audi sites. It was the same way with the BMW forums until people started using them. And being that they are a Japanese manufacture most of there kits aren't set up for "American style tuning" (i.e. a little, to much higher spring rates in the rear), so that is why some people dont' like them and its simpily cause they don't understand how to use them. To be honest with you I have seen most of there kits that are being offered in the states have now gone in that direction and I believe it to be for that reason. I don't think Audi is on the top of there lists to be revised but that does not mean you can't order custom spring rates and valving. Its only $120 per axel to get different springs. I have also noticed that Tein is one of the few manufactures of suspensions to have a spring height that is matched to the shock body (i.e. when at full droop there is still a small amount of preload on the spring and it is not unloaded). Of course all of your big manufactures have counted for that but you are paying big money to get it.

Now I'm not here to preach Tein or any other manufacture. I am just giving my opion on what I have personally had experiance with and what I have seen first hand. My intetions for my S4 are strickly track days and some street use.

On that note I am about to put together a custom set up from Tein for my S4 (like I did with my M3) so I can get some testing in. I am hoping to have over 2000 track miles on it this year at the track days my company is putting on, but I might be to busy to do the full milage so we will see.

Thats odd.. I have not heard anything good about Teins on our cars, more on the lines of "I cant wait to get rid of this setup"..

[Rapter]

I have not heard much about Teins at all on the Audi sites. It was the same way with the BMW forums until people started using them. And being that they are a Japanese manufacture most of there kits aren't set up for "American style tuning" (i.e. a little, to much higher spring rates in the rear), so that is why some people dont' like them and its simpily cause they don't understand how to use them. To be honest with you I have seen most of there kits that are being offered in the states have now gone in that direction and I believe it to be for that reason. I don't think Audi is on the top of there lists to be revised but that does not mean you can't order custom spring rates and valving. Its only $120 per axel to get different springs. I have also noticed that Tein is one of the few manufactures of suspensions to have a spring height that is matched to the shock body (i.e. when at full droop there is still a small amount of preload on the spring and it is not unloaded). Of course all of your big manufactures have counted for that but you are paying big money to get it.

Now I'm not here to preach Tein or any other manufacture. I am just giving my opion on what I have personally had experiance with and what I have seen first hand. My intetions for my S4 are strickly track days and some street use.

On that note I am about to put together a custom set up from Tein for my S4 (like I did with my M3) so I can get some testing in. I am hoping to have over 2000 track miles on it this year at the track days my company is putting on, but I might be to busy to do the full milage so we will see.

I had the Tein basics on my B6 A4 and they were hands down the most bang for the buck. They're still probably the most comfortable CO I've had or rode in so far. I was going to get them for the S, but when I looked up the spring rate it was the complete opposite from what it was on my B6. If I can get back into a B6 I'll go with the Teins again.