BlkdoutA4's RS6-R Build Thread

[BlkdoutS4]

Well I guess I'll start a build thread...

Story so far:

I've had my 2001.5 Silver S4 for about 3 years now.. bought it bone stock with 95k miles on it. By 110k miles it was full stage 3, with a custom tune from JHM, running meth, put down just over 400whp on 034's dyno. A few months ago I started having some smoking issues during decel along with some oil burning. Tried a bunch of fixes to no avail, most likely culprit was the valve stem seals leaking. So I decided to pull the motor. Started a few weeks ago (first motor pull), and I have another car to drive so I just took my time. As of last Sunday, the motor is out and I have started to break down the motor.

Turbos have been selected and paid for... should be here within a few weeks and they aren't 605s.

Engine size: 2.7L
Rods: Stock
Pistons: Stock
Heads: 2.7 w/new guides, new valve stem seals, valve job
Cams: Stock
Valvetrain: Stock
Intake Valves: Stock
Exhaust Valves Stainless Supertech
Intake Manifold: Stock, 034 Phenolic Spacers
Intake: RS4 Airbox, RS4 accordian, K&N panel filter
Y-Pipe: Stock
Throttle Body: Stock, 034 TBB
Diverter Valves: 034Motorsport
Turbo kit: JHM RS6-R
MAF: 90mm
Fuel Rails: Stock
Fuel Pump: Bosch 044
Spark Plugs: NGK BK7RE
Coil Packs: 034 2.0T conversion kit
Injectors: Custom Bosch 650cc EV14s
Tune: JHM
Water/Meth Injection: VAST
Clutch: VAST Stage 3
Intercooler(s): JHM FMIC
Mounts: 034 snub, 034 Track Density motor and Street Density tranny
Exhaust Manifolds: Stock
Downpipes: 034 3" downpipes w/ high flow cats
Exhaust: APR stealth
Coil-overs: ST
Wheels: 18X8 B6 S4 Avus'
Tires: 225/40/18 Hankook Ventus V12
Front Brakes: 330mm 6 Pot Brembos off Touareg, MB rotors, SS lines, Hawk HPS pads
Rear Brakes: 300mm B7 S4 rotors, 034 bracket, SS lines, Hawk HPS pads
Miscellaneous: VAST/ARD 2.2" Polished Bi-pipes, JHM Short shifter + weighted knob, Red oCarbon interior trim, Momo EVO RS GT seats, Euro rear bumper, Podi boost gauge, LC-1 Wideband, powdercoated valve covers

The car before the motor pull began:







Momo seats:



ST coilovers:





Garage:



Motor pull:

Mom's BF helping me out


Me:







Old K04s (25k miles):

[witwer4444]

Wanna sell your K04's?

[BlkdoutS4]

Have to wait until Tuesday to get the head bolt tool from the local Snap-On guy, then the heads will be pulled.

[BlkdoutS4]

Wanna sell your K04's?

Yes, they will need to be rebuilt. They are not blown and had no issues when pulled but there is some shaft play and I would not put them back in without a rebuild. I have someone local that has dibs on them but send me over an offer and if it falls through we can work something out.

[witwer4444]

PM'd with questions

[protocol_droid]

Nice doing it yourself. Are those momo's the older reclineable versions? name? Can't tell from the pic.

[BlkdoutS4]

Nice doing it yourself. Are those momo's the older reclineable versions? name? Can't tell from the pic.

No, they are fixed back. I believe they are called Momo Evo RS GTs... weigh about 30 lbs each.

[Austonwerner4]

I want your rear bumper

[oneonlybellm]

what sick looking car

[Matt Danger]

What led you to think your valve seals were leaking?

[BlkdoutS4]

What led you to think your valve seals were leaking?

I had whitish-clear smoke only during decel or cruising down hills, and was burning more oil than usual. No smoke under boost, no turbo whine, no loss of power. Pressure tested and found no leaks, no codes, replaced spider hose with no change, compression test checked out fine. Talked with a few different mechanics and a few knowledgeable people within the B5 S4 community and only thing we could come up with was leaky valve stem seals.

If it turns out that that isn't what was going on, oh well...

[BlkdoutS4]

Anyone wanna sell me a set of Tial s605's? Thought i'd throw it out there before I buy a new set from 034...

[dubzackvr6]

Looks like he's picking the motor up by himself.

[S-Power]

Bryan did you tape up everything and number it? Hahaha That's what I did worked out pretty well for me!

[S-Power]

Bryan did you tape up everything and number it? Hahaha That's what I did worked out pretty well for me!

[BlkdoutS4]

Bryan did you tape up everything and number it? Hahaha That's what I did worked out pretty well for me!

Ya most of the stuff is taped and numbered.

[BlkdoutS4]

Heads are off the car:











Not exactly sure what I'm looking for or how to tell the condition of them... anyone wanna chime in?

[Max@034]

Looking good Brian!

You won't really be able to inspect the valve stem seals with the valvetrain installed, but a leakdown test on the head will show an issue.

You can rotate the cam till you can see up a valve stem and try to see if there is evidence of oil burning. However its probably unlikely more then a few of them were leaking, if that.

Make sure you take your heads somewhere that is familiar with 5v heads.

[BlkdoutS4]

Make sure you take your heads somewhere that is familiar with 5v heads.

Any suggests Max?

[BlkdoutS4]

Anyone know the best place to buy new valve stem seals?

[2380S4]

Pm max at 034. He can most likely help you out.

[BlkdoutS4]

Pm max at 034. He can most likely help you out.

Max and I are friends, I did call him earlier just waitin' to hear back. He's probably on his lunch break right now

[2380S4]

Sweet deal then. Max has helped me on many parts for my build and he's extremely knowledgable.

[BlkdoutS4]

What are people paying to have their heads rebuilt? The machine shop told me my heads need new valve stem seals, guides, 2 intake valves and all 12 exhaust valves.. the quote was around $1500... ouch!

[2380S4]

That's not horrible, depends on parts being used.

I spent $200 on just having valves on brand new heads lapped. On top of the cost of a full 2.8 head build with super tech.

[Max@034]

I still think you should get some upgraded exhaust valves, but from a financial standpoint, grabbing some 2.8 heads or that motor you found might be your best bet. But with 605's, it would be nice to rev to 7000rpm or higher without worry of your old hollow exhaust valves busting.

[MikeyB3]

Wow, your pistons look just as bad as mine did!

As far as head building, 1500 seems a little low, but I guess it depends on how far they're building... Mine was way more than that. Then again, I had a P&P done and had them completely rebuilt.

Did you decide on which turbos you're going with?

[BlkdoutS4]

I still think you should get some upgraded exhaust valves, but from a financial standpoint, grabbing some 2.8 heads or that motor you found might be your best bet. But with 605's, it would be nice to rev to 7000rpm or higher without worry of your old hollow exhaust valves busting.

I think I am gonna go with the SS Supertech exhaust valves with the Black Nitride coating.

[BlkdoutS4]

Wow, your pistons look just as bad as mine did!

As far as head building, 1500 seems a little low, but I guess it depends on how far they're building... Mine was way more than that. Then again, I had a P&P done and had them completely rebuilt.

Did you decide on which turbos you're going with?

The $1500 would include disassembly, valve job, all new valve stem seals, all new guides, (12) new exhaust valves and (2) new intake valves, reassembly.

As far as turbos, I really would like to go Tial 605, just not sure if funds will permit.

[MikeyB3]

The $1500 would include disassembly, valve job, all new valve stem seals, all new guides, (12) new exhaust valves and (2) new intake valves, reassembly.

As far as turbos, I really would like to go Tial 605, just not sure if funds will permit.

I dont know parts/labor rates, but I'd say if that's where you're headed, sounds about right.

Are you doing rods? If funds are right, do what you plan to do. But if you're a little low, I've ridden in/driven an RS6 car without rods, and on a moderately conservative tune. She's quick, man. Feels stockish in drivability, but way more push.

[michael66899]

The $1500 would include disassembly, valve job, all new valve stem seals, all new guides, (12) new exhaust valves and (2) new intake valves, reassembly.

As far as turbos, I really would like to go Tial 605, just not sure if funds will permit.

That's a very competitive price for all of that, I'd say go for it but get the supertech exhaust valves.

[BlkdoutS4]

That's a very competitive price for all of that, I'd say go for it but get the supertech exhaust valves.

That's the plan, thanks for the response.

[BlkdoutS4]

what about head bolts... is it best to stick with OEM or are Victor Reinz ok to run? the VR ones are about half the price...

[BlkdoutS4]

bump, anyone have any info on Victor Reinz head bolts? I need to order some soon...

[2380S4]

No haven't used those. Went with arp head bolt set from 034 on my gt build.

[BlkdoutS4]

Just placed the order for new guides, valve stem seals, and the Stainless Supertech exhaust valves.

[BlkdoutS4]

Anyone got a stock S4 airbox laying around that they don't need anymore?? PM me..

[dubzackvr6]

No RS4 intake?

[DanS4]

Anyone got a stock S4 airbox laying around that they don't need anymore?? PM me..

pm sent

[BlkdoutS4]

No RS4 intake?

I'll probably end up running a stock airbox with 034 85mm MAF and 034 silicon accordian. The RS4 intake stuff I have is setup to be used with a 90mm MAF