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    B7 A4 to RS4 Avant Project "RS4VANT"

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    Little big of back story:

    I recently just sold my 2008 corvette after 6 years of enjoyment because i wanted something a little bit cooler to me, and more unique to go to cars and coffee with, or other shows. I fell in love with a recently finished b8.5 s4 avant my brothers shop did, and knew a wagon was for me! I always loved the styling of the b7 rs4 so i talked with my brother and he siked about taking on this project

    So, a few opportunities lined themselves up to make this project more feasible, first i was able to buy a great exterior condition 2008 RS4 for a good deal off ebay

    Taking delivery, made it from Utah to Delaware in 3 days



    mmm booty



    normal drivers seat wear and tear, but the clips on the back of the seat need replaced



    Engine not too dirty



    found the original sticker!



    Deal number 2: The A4 Avant

    a few weeks before i decided to go this direction, a tow company in wilmington brought my brothers shop an avant that was abandoned. They asked him to check it out and let them know if it needed anything. After having a key made for it, the went to start it only to find the motor was blown. The tow company decided it wasnt worth it to fix and resell so they took it back. fast forward a few weeks later after i discussed my project ideas we were able to get it back for $500! the key for it was $200 lol. so $700 for a a4 Avant with a clean title not too bad!

    Here are some photos of the two together for the first time








    So now i got the RS4 for a deal because it has 141k on it, and also they said the bell housing had a crack so we started with taking out the motor






    Crack? more like a full on fracture. clutch, flywheel and everything in it along with the tranny are most likely trashed. they thing who ever did the clutch job didnt put all the bolts back as it was missing 4 along the bottom and caused this.



    Last edited by mrupc; 05-02-2018 at 10:46 AM.
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
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    Hah.. I thought this story look familiar.. I see you have gone from deciding to decided.. might get flamed for hacking up a perfectly good RS4.. but that’s totally your call!

    What’s your plan for the transmission? Whole new unit? Weld the bell housing?

    Would def spend some time going through that motor knowing the bell housing blew off and it’s got 140k on it. No sense in spending thousands to instal a bad motor.

    Will follow of course.. let me know if you run into any issues.. I’ll let you know if anything jumps out at me as being done wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsgray16 View Post
    Hah.. I thought this story look familiar.. I see you have gone from deciding to decided.. might get flamed for hacking up a perfectly good RS4.. but that’s totally your call!

    What’s your plan for the transmission? Whole new unit? Weld the bell housing?

    Would def spend some time going through that motor knowing the bell housing blew off and it’s got 140k on it. No sense in spending thousands to instal a bad motor.

    Will follow of course.. let me know if you run into any issues.. I’ll let you know if anything jumps out at me as being done wrong.

    Good luck!
    haha yeah man! u_p_c on instagram!

    and my brother bought a destroyed s4 quattro edition and sold me the tranny from that, it only had like 40k on it!

    as for the motor, hes going to dig into and see whats up. it already has low compression, and a intake flap code. but as i might of mentioned on ig, im just going to do it right and rebuild.
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
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    Get an RS4 transmission.. need the gearing. It’s lower. Also, that trans wouldn’t match the rear diff, so you would have to replace that.

    I think I need to open an RS4 Avant swap consultation service and start changing for this shit


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    Quote Originally Posted by dsgray16 View Post
    Get an RS4 transmission.. need the gearing. It’s lower. Also, that trans wouldn’t match the rear diff, so you would have to replace that.

    I think I need to open an RS4 Avant swap consultation service and start changing for this shit


    Good plan on the motor.
    youre right, i have the rear diff too. as for the gearing, i may have some use for them
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrupc View Post
    youre right, i have the rear diff too. as for the gearing, i may have some use for them
    The housing is the same, I would just swap the RS4 gears into the other trans.

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    Very cool! Any link for your brothers b8.5 avant build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstallion View Post
    Very cool! Any link for your brothers b8.5 avant build?
    Thanks man

    and. It’s on here some where. Idk if there’s a full build. It was mrw’s car


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    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Update #2

    With the motor out, it was time for me to get my hands dirty. now i'm not a mechanic or know what i'm doing so i wont get a lot of chances to help out on this project, but i was able to tackle removing the interior trim of the avant

    i was surprised how easy it was for me to remove the trim pieces, granted i had legit trim removal tools, but i was expecting to be breaking pieces left and right. needless to say i didnt break any tabs or pieces

    i did however spend like 2 hours trying to remove the back seats. i knew you had to yank on the bottom portion but didnt expect to have to go hulk on it. my brother stepped in after a while and removed them in like 3 seconds lol

    the back portion of the rear seats also through me for a loop. and i blame my brother for it he told me i had to remove what turned out to be the seatbelt bracket and they would just come off. well after an hour or so of trying to get to the bolts for the bracket my brother came over and conveniently forgot all i had to do was flip up a little tab and the seats would simply flip over lol well now i know












    now to get a rear rs4 avant bumper and forward onto the body work stage!
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Oh man, subbed. This should be good

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    This will be fun to watch.
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    This is going to be awesome, subscribed!
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    Small Update Smashed 25Quattro donor arrived

    To solve the transmission problem, my brother ( the king of falling into golden deals) was already looking at a salvage s4 25Quattro edition that he was tear down and use parts for a 2.7t b7 conversion. The car had like 40 or 60k miles on it i cant remember, apparently a younger driver got the car and smashed it into a brand new range rover in less than a month of ownership... ouch

    and man did he smash it up



    everything other than the front end is great tho. interior is flawless

    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
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    So you're the guy who ended up winning this on ebay!

    Jealous I missed out, but excited to watch this unfold!

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    Quote Originally Posted by melomandn View Post
    So you're the guy who ended up winning this on ebay!

    Jealous I missed out, but excited to watch this unfold!
    Haha yes! I think I beat someone out by like 5 dollars. Most intense bidding I ever did. It got wild at the 10 second left mark
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Update #3 RS4 Avant bumper acquired!

    Thanks to everyone who wants to keep updated with this build!

    It took a little bit of searching and some help from instagram, but i was able to get the part number for the bumper, and thanks to Ebay, found one a little scratched up for super cheap!





    only damage on it. and it shoudn't be a problem since the whole car is getting sprayed.



    and one final artsy photo



    i dropped the bumper off at AV Auto Worx where the cars are stored, and a body shop is going to take a look and get me some estimates hopefully next week!
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    brief update.

    found a used s4/rs4 hatch spoiler, and got some quotes for the body work. negotiating a little bit then will cut the check, and all the body work, paint and panel swap will start!
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    You can just swap the spoiler and not the whole hatch.. unless you got a European one and want the European license plate cutout.. otherwise they are the same.

    Where does the 25th Anna S4 come into play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsgray16 View Post
    You can just swap the spoiler and not the whole hatch.. unless you got a European one and want the European license plate cutout.. otherwise they are the same.

    Where does the 25th Anna S4 come into play?
    yeah i just got the spoiler.

    and the s4 is for the tranny
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Is that an RS4 avant bumper?!?! Damn you found that on eBay us?? Nice build man, going to enjoy following this. If you somehow find yourself more north and want to sell those seats let me know, I know a great B6 avant that would love those :D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LASERSareRED View Post
    Is that an RS4 avant bumper?!?! Damn you found that on eBay us?? Nice build man, going to enjoy following this. If you somehow find yourself more north and want to sell those seats let me know, I know a great B6 avant that would love those :D.

    Haha I’ll let you know. And I found it on eBay.de. Shipping was only 70 bucks


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    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    got a month more to go until the body shop can take my project, then its go time. panels will be cut, on both cars and installed and everything painted. Going with the Phantom black Pearl!

    small update, the engine is out of the avant

    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Incredible build OP, definitely at the top of my long Subscribed list

    The ONLY thing I would do differently...definitely not black. Haha. Personal preference only. I saw Dan Greys beauty in person at Avantoberfest. Before that I always thought the photos hid the body lines on his Avant. In person, the green is much lighter and the lines....

    I fear with Black Pearl you won't have much of a "lighter colour" to show off the lines. Again, strictly a personal preference. I love some flash like Nogaro, Sprint, Merlin Purple etc which is not for everyone.

    Great build regardless! Pumped for the final outcome


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrupc View Post
    got a month more to go until the body shop can take my project, then its go time. panels will be cut, on both cars and installed and everything painted. Going with the Phantom black Pearl!

    small update, the engine is out of the avant

    I love how easy you make his sound

    Like listening to a Flex-Seal ad.. “just slap it and seal it!”


    Did I miss above? Is the engine swap done?

    Not sure I understand the pick above. Would imagine it’s pertinent to do the engine swap first before a full repaint.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NJA-TRTL View Post
    Incredible build OP, definitely at the top of my long Subscribed list

    The ONLY thing I would do differently...definitely not black. Haha. Personal preference only. I saw Dan Greys beauty in person at Avantoberfest. Before that I always thought the photos hid the body lines on his Avant. In person, the green is much lighter and the lines....

    I fear with Black Pearl you won't have much of a "lighter colour" to show off the lines. Again, strictly a personal preference. I love some flash like Nogaro, Sprint, Merlin Purple etc which is not for everyone.

    Great build regardless! Pumped for the final outcome


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    It’s def a tough decision. I was considering s more unique color, but I feared I’d get sick of it after a while

    I do plan on doing a nardo Gray wrap at some point tho too!


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    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsgray16 View Post
    I love how easy you make his sound

    Like listening to a Flex-Seal ad.. “just slap it and seal it!”


    Did I miss above? Is the engine swap done?

    Not sure I understand the pick above. Would imagine it’s pertinent to do the engine swap first before a full repaint.


    Keep it up!
    That pic is the avant motor out. We’re modding and painting the engine bay too so it’s easier with the motor out




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    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Think I saw this car when I was up there Friday picking up my old s4 motor. I have the Sprint blue DTM getting rs4 swapped up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbradney View Post
    Think I saw this car when I was up there Friday picking up my old s4 motor. I have the Sprint blue DTM getting rs4 swapped up there.

    hah small world! Its my brothers shop
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    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
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    Haha awesome James is a guy I’ll just be ready for my car to be done lol

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    Lmao he’s a good guy*

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbradney View Post
    Haha awesome James is a guy I’ll just be ready for my car to be done lol
    He'll treat you right. an absolute machine when it comes to vw/audi mechanics. i was just down there Saturday dropping some stuff off and giving my a4 a look over.. Grabbed some fancy pics while i was there of my BNS

    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Yeah I think all I need for parts on my swap is the fuel pump and module for it and like seals and gaskets but Mario helped me a lot with motor and all the really big parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbradney View Post
    Yeah I think all I need for parts on my swap is the fuel pump and module for it and like seals and gaskets but Mario helped me a lot with motor and all the really big parts
    yeah man.. crazy that theres only like 2k RS4's in the country and AV auto worx has like 5 bns motors there (2 in cars)
    97 a4 quattro sold
    08 Corvette z51 sold
    06 a4 quattro h&r springs, stage 2 tune sold
    13 a4 quattro, race land coils, ie stage 2, cts turbo back,
    08 rs4 avant turbo
    08 RS4 Avant Click for Build Thread
    For more updates and pics @RS4VANT on the gram

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    Why do I feel like you sold the engine covers to Mario and then I bought them from him. maybe wrong lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbradney View Post
    Why do I feel like you sold the engine covers to Mario and then I bought them from him. maybe wrong lol
    Haha nope. I didn’t sell anything
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    Haha fair enough Mario texted me last week he got a set of covers and I wasn’t letting him keep them lol

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