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    :: ECS Tuning :: NEW!! B8 A4 2.0T ECS Baffled Oil Catch Can

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    Introducing ECS Tuning's newest release, the Performance Baffled Oil Catch Can System, engineered in-house and manufactured in the USA. Our system was designed with the consumer in mind to provide effortless installation with no necessary modifications to be a perfect fit for your 2.0T. With no required modification, this performance system is also fully reversible and even fits beneath the factory engine cover!

    Today's direct fuel injection systems have taken engine performance to a whole new level, but there is a drawback. Without fuel vapor to help clean the intake valves, the oil particles that are drawn into the intake from the PCV system will deposit themselves onto the valves and intake ports. Over time this will result in increased levels of carbon buildup which can hinder performance and fuel economy.



    Key benefits of the ECS Baffled Oil Catch Can System:


    Highly Efficient Oil Separator (Catch Can)



    • Strategically positioned 4 chamber baffle system maximizes oil / air separation
    • Engineered to create multiple changes in the direction of airflow within the separator to cause oil droplets to fall out of suspension before exiting the catch can
    • Knurled and black anodized integrated oil dipstick makes inspecting oil volume of reservoir clean and simple
    • Fully serviceable for routine cleaning and maintenance; Includes 2.5mm allen key to remove baffle plates for cleaning
    • -10AN ORB (O-Ring Boss) fittings for leak-free fitting connections
    • 6061-T6 billet machined body, anodized black for lasting protection and appearance
    • Easy to drain reservoir, simply un-threads from the oil separator for quick draining or cleaning


    Eliminates the Front PCV Port



    • Eliminates the possibility of pressurizing the crankcase under boost, in the event of a potential PCV failure
    • With the inlet at the turbo inlet pipe, there is far less chance of oil collection on the intake valves due to an otherwise system ingesting oil directly to the intake manifold port
    • No heavy vacuum (under idle) will be seen by the PCV, causing it to stay open and minimizing the risk of failure in the diaphragm
    • The OEM fine oil (cyclonic) separator is retained. Due to the retention of this component, the catch can will not have to be emptied as often, as its focus will be on capturing the ultra-fine oil vapor
    • Engine cover fitment is maintained on both the OEM and ECS Carbon Fiber with no modifications needed
    • Completely reversible installation, as no OEM components are permanently modified. This is ideal for those who choose to remove their catch can during the cold winter months


    Most catch cans replace of the factory PCV (positive crankcase ventilation) system, however the ECS Tuning Performance Baffled Oil Catch Can System utilizes key components of the OEM PCV system to expand on it's efficiency by retaining ultra-fine oil vapor that has already passed through the factory fine oil separator. This also provides the benefit of not having to empty the oil can catch as often as other systems on the market, since the oil vapor will be filtered through two components before reaching the intake tract. Although the OEM PCV system performs well and meets emissions standards, installing ECS Tuning's Performance Baffled Oil Catch Can System will increase efficiency of the PCV system and keep the ultra-fine oil vapor contained in the blow-by gases from entering your intake system and causing excessive power loss and carbon buildup.


    Each system includes the following:

    • 4 Chamber Baffled Oil Catch Can with integrated dipstick and service tool
    • CNC bent, black anodized, aluminum catch can bracket
    • -10AN black nylon braided hose with pre-assembled -10AN black anodized swivel fittings
    • -10AN black anodized line separators
    • Billet machined 6061-T6 aluminum components, anodized black:
    • -10AN extension
    • PCV end cap fittings with OEM securing clips
    • -10AN rear PCV port adapter



    Nice Catch!

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    Be sure to check out our -----> Installation PDF<-----

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    Jason
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    That's a very interesting way of designing the kit. Did the use and retention of the engine cover come into play when designing it?

    Are the adapter, can, and baffle pieces made with plastic? Cant quite tell from the pics. If so, any thoughts about possible heat corrosion with the adapter being mounted on the turbo like that?

    I haven't even gotten around to installing my other catch can yet, and this intrigues me as a possible design alternative.



    EDIT: NVM, I see the pieces are aluminum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adamazing View Post
    That's a very interesting way of designing the kit. Did the use and retention of the engine cover come into play when designing it?
    Yes. We designed this kit to allow you to use your OEM or our ECS CF engine cover.

    Jason

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    As I understand the factory design, the PCV unit has the integral vacuum pressure regulator (the round section with the diapharm inside) to maintain a constant slight vacuum in the crankcase, which is needed to maintain enough airflow thru the vortex oil separator, for the oil separator to be effective. Removing the vacuum source (from the intake manifold) will make the vortex separator less effective at removing small oil droplets.

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    Just read the install PDF file.... Very interesting design... Especially using the factory pcv system .... Just not happy its not good for my climate here in north east PA,,, regular below freezing most of the winter... Ecs recommends reinstalling factory components during freezing months...
    Not sure I want to risk blowing engine seals like I've heard of others with catch can installs during winter months!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperunion View Post
    Just read the install PDF file.... Very interesting design... Especially using the factory pcv system .... Just not happy its not good for my climate here in north east PA,,, regular below freezing most of the winter... Ecs recommends reinstalling factory components during freezing months...
    Not sure I want to risk blowing engine seals like I've heard of others with catch can installs during winter months!!!
    Unfortunately this is the nature of a catch can. This is one of the reasons we make it completely reversible without modification to your factory system.

    Jason
    Last edited by ECS Tuning-Audi; 09-03-2015 at 07:32 AM.

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    I run my catch can all year, through NJ winters, no freeze-up problems, but you have to empty it every week. ECS is being very conservative (for liability reasons).

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4'ed View Post
    I run my catch can all year, through NJ winters, no freeze-up problems, but you have to empty it every week. ECS is being very conservative (for liability reasons).
    Which companies catch can???.. Ecs's is very a very different configuration then all others...
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4'ed View Post
    I run my catch can all year, through NJ winters, no freeze-up problems, but you have to empty it every week. ECS is being very conservative (for liability reasons).

    I myself run a catch can year round in Boston. Tons and tons of people up here run catch cans. Especially because I've read that with out winters even the stock pcv system can freeze up if you are making multiple short trips. Empty the can weekly, and have the lines pitched downward so that there are no low points for moisture to build up and you will be fine.
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    As long as you're adamant about draining the catch can on a regular basis you should be fine keeping it installed throughout winter. But for anyone that wants to be super cautious or doesn't want the risk we just recommend they remove it when its below freezing for peace of mind.

    Just understand that if you do leave it installed and are not mindful of the moisture that can collect and freeze if the kit isn't serviced once a week, you could damage seals in your engine.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperunion View Post
    Which companies catch can???.. Ecs's is very a very different configuration then all others...
    I have a Conceptual Polymers catch can installed in my VW CC 2.0T. I have retained the factory PCV system, the catch can is just "spliced" into the line between the intake manifold and the PCV unit.


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    So because this still utilizes the factory PCV, is the OEM unit still exposed to excess pressures with an aftermarket tune? Does that still expose it to premature failure? What happens if the OEM unit still fails?

    Sell me/assure me on my desire to sell my existing set-up to replace with this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by adamazing View Post
    So because this still utilizes the factory PCV, is the OEM unit still exposed to excess pressures with an aftermarket tune? Does that still expose it to premature failure? What happens if the OEM unit still fails?

    Sell me/assure me on my desire to sell my existing set-up to replace with this.
    Provided you are starting with a good PCV system, there is very low risk of failure.

    Failures in the OEM valve due to high boost are usually in the check valve, the PCV diaphragm, or the gasket between the valve cover and the valve body.

    Our kit eliminates the front PCV port, which eliminates the possibility of pressurizing the crankcase under boost, in the event of a potential PCV check valve failure. Also by eliminating the front port no heavy vacuum (under idle) will be seen by the PCV, causing it to stay open and minimizing the risk of failure in the diaphragm. The seal between the valve cover and the PCV valve still exists on competitors’ block off plates - so this is something that could fail on either the OEM piece or block off plates.

    But because we don't use a block off plate our kit basically allows you to still retain the use of the OEM oil separator minus the negative effects the front port on the PCV valve body can cause.

    Jason

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    Thanks very much for the clarification Jason.



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    I installed this kit today, and there's a a few things worth noting.

    Overall, the install is a breeze. Very easy, very straight forward, and very high quality. There were two issues I ran into while installing however, one of which is pretty significant to those of us with the OEM metal manifolds.

    1) The kit comes with two different sizes of cap screws.
    - M6x20 for the turbo adapter plate
    - M6x15 for the catch can mounting brackets

    I found that the screw sizes listed in steps 25 and 31 of the instructions are incorrect and should be switched with each other. The M6x20 screws are around 1-2mm too long to secure the turbo plate, leaving a gap between the two. The 6X15 work perfectly.


    2) This is the important oversight for those of us with metal manifolds. Our intake vacuum ports are significantly different from the remainder of those with the traditional plastic manifold. The plug that comes included in the kit does not fit the metal manifold port.




    I had to get creative to fabricate a temporary solution to make my car drive-able.







    Jason,
    Can you guys take a look into this and let me know if there's a better solution you guys can deliver for us B8.5 guys with the metal manifolds?



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    Here it is installed. Great quality overall aside form the issue above.



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    Appreciate the feedback! We will be double checking the screw sizes, likely just a mix up and will have the DIY corrected. As for the issue with the cap we have been working on a solution. But it could be some time before anything is available. Once it is available we will contact you and get you the proper pieces.

    For now I will mention that this kit is only compatible on vehicles with the plastic intake manifold.

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    Thanks for addressing it Jason. Looking forward to seeing the end result.

    In the meantime, for those in my situation that would still like to use this kit. Autozone has a ~$10 temporary solution that's working for me for the time being.

    Doorman Bypass Cap -Assorted Pack
    Part # 02253
    http://www.autozone.com/cooling-heat...ap/426020_0_0/

    Small Assorted Hose Clamp Pack
    Part # KE001
    http://www.autozone.com/gaskets-and-...it/704653_0_0/

    I was able to cap the factory port and secure it for the time being using this. One little trick: after you cap the port, you have to wedge the cap under the ECS PCV Plug above it. This will ensure your boost doesn't blow the plug out of the port.
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    Jason are these kits still only available with cars with plastic IM's? or has the issues been corrected, as i see there's an option for 2013+ or is that for the 6-speeds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAF View Post
    Jason are these kits still only available with cars with plastic IM's? or has the issues been corrected, as i see there's an option for 2013+ or is that for the 6-speeds?
    For right now we only have our catch can available for plastic intake manifolds. We do plan to offer it for vehicles with metal intakes. Though it is still a couple months away from production.

    Only CTS offers a catch can for metal intake vehicles that we carry.

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    Thanks for the reply Jason.
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    Purchased this as well, not knowing it was not compatible with B8.5. Either way I was going to install after the winter so I'm in no rush

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    hmm, maybe an xmas present to myself.
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    I've been wondering with these catch cans, sounds like you're supposed to drain every couple weeks... what happens if you don't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inv3rtig0 View Post
    I've been wondering with these catch cans, sounds like you're supposed to drain every couple weeks... what happens if you don't?

    Nice looking kit BTW.


    I usually dump mine once every 2 weeks or so. More frequently now that the weather is colder and I build up condensate quicker.
    It's a vacuum operated system - if the can fills beyond capacity, you cease vacuum. Without vacuum your crankcase has no release and you start to pressurize it. Pressurize it too long and too much and you blow out to seals and have an oily mess and a pricey repair.



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    Quote Originally Posted by adamazing View Post
    I usually dump mine once every 2 weeks or so. More frequently now that the weather is colder and I build up condensate quicker.
    It's a vacuum operated system - if the can fills beyond capacity, you cease vacuum. Without vacuum your crankcase has no release and you start to pressurize it. Pressurize it too long and too much and you blow out to seals and have an oily mess and a pricey repair.
    Yah this is why i opted not to buy once considering if cold at least half the year up here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamazing View Post
    I usually dump mine once every 2 weeks or so. More frequently now that the weather is colder and I build up condensate quicker.
    It's a vacuum operated system - if the can fills beyond capacity, you cease vacuum. Without vacuum your crankcase has no release and you start to pressurize it. Pressurize it too long and too much and you blow out to seals and have an oily mess and a pricey repair.
    ^^ This.

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