Going k04... What supporting mods do I need?

[FergusonHD]

Looking to finally go k04... What supporting mods are needed right away, I'm looking to do the install myself

Intercooler?
Testpipe or downpipe?
Tuning?
Bov?

I hate the sound that intakes make, sounds like a fish is having sex with Chewbacca so I don't plan on upgrading my airbox even though it's the cheapest mod... Is it okay to go k04 without it?

If anyone has gone k04 please comment what mods you first did and survived without please and thank you

[pierreb]

High flow cat + DP and tune are the only ones you need. IC depends on where you live and the temps you see.

[Allowencer]

See, I like the open intake. I guess to each their own. To provide all details, I didn't run it on my stock IHI, I put it on when I installed the FrankenTurbo. I don't think there would be a big acoustical difference, but there might be. Regardless I like it

To answer your question, get a better drop-in filter and you'll be fine with your intake. I would also recommend to convert to better charge pipes and get rid of the POS sound box, which is found in your driver side fenderwell area.

Never go BoV on these cars. They are MAF tune based, not speed density (MAP) and the BoV would come after the MAF so you would run pig rich a lot. Not what you want. The DV that comes with a K04 or FrankenTurbo is perfect for what you need.

[PyroDonkey]

If you're not into a full intake system, you could get the ECS Silicone Turbo Inlet Hose and a better filter as Allowencer said. I'm not sure if that will change the sound, though. I haven't done the mod, but I'm sure another person can chime in on that. You'll for sure need a HFC/test pipe and downpipe. Intercooler and intake are recommended upgrades. You may need a clutch upgrade in the future, too (At least according to what I've read on APR's site).

[Marko S]

How important is a downpipe? I dont really see the importance if you have a hfc.

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[Allowencer]

Not really at all. It's mostly if you want to get rid of the resonator.

1 more thing to add to your list - proper spark plugs.

[pierreb]

A lot of times I have found them sold as a kit.

[FergusonHD]

High flow cat + DP and tune are the only ones you need. IC depends on where you live and the temps you see.

Yea I live Miami so I'd need one ASAP lol

[OzeyeruZ]

*Needs for optimal Ko4*
DP
Intercooler
Plugs and R8 coils
Afe Dry flow filter
HFIP (helps reduce spool time)

*wants*
Fluidamper
3" inch exhaust
Open end Air intake (I have ECS, sounds real nice with Ko4, feel the csr breathing easier)
GFB DV+
Meth Kit (steam cleans engine and never have to worry about heat soak.)

Hopes this helps.

Oz

[kiw1]

Agree with Oz. The FMIC is really a must for Stage 3 - most people recommend it for Stage 2! I'm also running a performance AFE filter and ECS Silicone Turbo Inlet Hose instead of an intake system as I'm also not a fan of the noise. Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but you'll also need the tuning software. Allot of people here run AWE.

[Marko S]

Any of you ko4-ers running s3 injectors?

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[NLPed68]

I've recently completed a K04 install on my car. I'd already accumulated quite a few parts for the upgrade prior to actually getting it and installed a few of them (i.e. exhaust and intake). I now have Eurocode FMIC with all the associated EC plumbing, 034 HFC, B&B exhaust that includes the midpipe, ECS Kohlefaser Luft-Technik intake System (sounded like $hit with the K03, but sounds much better with K04??), appropriate heat range plugs & R8 coils, APR software. I have the GFB DV+ to install, but was instructed by an APR R&D tech to abstain from it as the stock APR K04 DV works as it should with there setup, so it's still sitting in my office next to a pile of suspension & brake parts that are part of my next big project.

I'd say that since the OP is in Miami that the FMIC & associated plumbing are a true MUST HAVE for that environment, and the HFC/testpipe & appropriate plugs/coils are requirement per just about all the K04 sellers.

[Zach L]

What about clutch?!? Haven't seen any mention of it in this thread so far.

I'm not familiar with the B8, but I know if you went K04 in a Mk6 GTI with similar TSI engine, a clutch was a must have. The factory clutch wasn't sufficient on even just a Stage 2 GTI... much less with a K04.

[NLPed68]

^^PyroDonkey mentioned the clutch. I take that for granted as mines an 8-sp Tip

[Dez_Nutz_NM313]

What does a automatic trans need for a K04?

[NLPed68]

^^^ Nothing. At least if you have a 2011 or newer, I'm not sure about the 6-speed auto.

[Dez_Nutz_NM313]

so its just a turn key turbo upgrade for 2013+ automatic models?

[NLPed68]

^^^No. You still need the aforementioned necessities. See Oz's post.

Fmic
Plugs/coils
HFC/test pipe
Software
Etc.

Just no clutch upgrade needed

[Dez_Nutz_NM313]

what kind of plugs? where do i find the R8 coils?

Also cant figure out what is a fluidamper?

thanks

[kwbdc]

what kind of plugs? where do i find the R8 coils?

Also cant figure out what is a fluidamper?

thanks

Check out USP Motorsports website for the fluidamper

[Marko S]

Check out USP Motorsports website for the fluidamper

Anyone running the fluidamper? IIRC there were issues with the ECS light weight pulley? Isn't this a similiar product?

[slowone11]

You do not need "r8" coils or bigger injectors. Im on stock coils and ngk s4 plugs with my Loba k04 at 6000 feet altiitude. You do need hfc, fmic, hpfp, tuning, and exhaust....this is all recommended to get the full potential.
I put down 320awhp and 360awtq i do have the fluidampner pulley.

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[NLPed68]

^^^ I don't have the HPFP and it wasn't even recommended by APR. I have all the other stuff (plus the R8 coils).

[lettuce]

You do not need "r8" coils or bigger injectors. Im on stock coils and ngk s4 plugs with my Loba k04 at 6000 feet altiitude. You do need hfc, fmic, hpfp, tuning, and exhaust....this is all recommended to get the full potential.
I put down 320awhp and 360awtq i do have the fluidampner pulley.

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Upgraded coils are way more of a must-do than hpfp and exhaust. The fastest non-EFR pump gas 1/4 mile times here were run with stock hpfp and stock catback exhaust. They do nothing for performance.

[slowone11]

^^^ I don't have the HPFP and it wasn't even recommended by APR. I have all the other stuff (plus the R8 coils).

My loba hpfp was recommended with the loba turbo as a combo

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[lettuce]

My loba hpfp was recommended with the loba turbo as a combo

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Yeah, by the people trying to sell it to you. Sorry I don't mean to be a dick, but APR is running much more power than any of us with their EFR on bone stock fueling. None of us need a hpfp.

[slowone11]

Yeah, by the people trying to sell it to you. Sorry I don't mean to be a dick, but APR is running much more power than any of us with their EFR on bone stock fueling. None of us need a hpfp.

What do you mean by "much more power"? My set up at sealevel will make 50-60 more hp...that puts me close to 400awhp. What is apr putting up? And how much does the kit cost?

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[lettuce]

What do you mean by "much more power"? My set up at sealevel will make 50-60 more hp...that puts me close to 400awhp. What is apr putting up? And how much does the kit cost?

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LOL. Do you seriously think your K04 puts out more power than an EFR 6758?

[Allowencer]

What do you mean by "much more power"? My set up at sealevel will make 50-60 more hp...that puts me close to 400awhp. What is apr putting up? And how much does the kit cost?

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More power yes, 50-60, I don't think so. Try like another 20-30ish.

[VNA4]

U need 4 grand. That's it lol


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[slowone11]

LOL. Do you seriously think your K04 puts out more power than an EFR 6758?

I never said it did. I wish i would have went BIGGER.. But you make it sound like its the best kit ever made. They haven't even released it yet and you are all on its nuts.

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[slowone11]

More power yes, 50-60, I don't think so. Try like another 20-30ish.

70-90 more power would be nice. 400awhp is what i was shooting for but i also was looking for quick power as i autocross my a4. My full boost kicks in at 2500rpm and pulls all the way to 6800. Im not to keen on having a highway numbers queen. These big turbo builds usually only have power from 4k-7krpm

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[lettuce]

I never said it did. I wish i would have went BIGGER.. But you make it sound like its the best kit ever made. They haven't even released it yet and you are all on its nuts.

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Dude, get a grip. This has nothing to do with being on anyone's nuts or your big turbo envy and resulting insecurities. The only reason I brought up that kit was to point out that there are A4s making more power than you on stock fueling. If an A4 with an EFR can run a 12.1 with a stock hpfp then what makes you think you need an aftermarket one on your slower K04?

I understand your shop screwed you over with promises of 400awhp or whatever, but put your emotions aside and look at it logically. You want to try to justify all the money you spent and I get that. But unless you have a setup capable of running in the 11s a hpfp is just not necessary. Sorry. If it'll make you feel better then you can keep on thinking it is, but I just want to clear things up for the other people reading this thread so people aren't running around buying shit they don't need.

[slowone11]

You're right. Its way better. I spent the money cause i broke my car not because my shop said i needed anything. Oh and when people say..."i dont mean to be a dick but" you are being a dick.


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[lettuce]

You're right. Its way better. I spent the money cause i broke my car not because my shop said i needed anything. Oh and when people say..."i dont mean to be a dick but" you are being a dick.


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I really wasn't trying to be a dick, I swear. I just wanted to talk about car parts and then you triggered me by insinuating that I'm an APR fanboy.

[slowone11]

Ok...i apologize. My bad. Lets talk car stuff.

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