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    Timing Chain Tensioner Class Action info

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    I found a guy in Florida who is working with a lawyer here in NY and has filed a class action lawsuit against VW/ Audi for faulty timing chain tensioners for certain model Audis. I know many of you have had or are having these issues right now. I was advised by him to keep all the old parts and receipts for future reimbursement. Here is the reply I received from him as well as his contact info. The more of us that get involved the better our case is against Audi. We shouldnt be paying thousands of dollars out of our pocket for a known faulty timing chain. Subsequent models have received better/updated tensioners and dont have these issues. There shouldve been a recall on ours but thus far there hasnt been. They are looking for anyone with a car under 120,000 miles on it.

    A class action was filed on April 21, 2016 in Federal Court against Volkswagen Group of America, Inc. and its divisions together with Volkswagenwerk Aktiengesellschaft and Audi Aktiengesellschaft for damages caused by the defective timing chain tensioner and chain in 2008 - early 2012 VW and Audi vehicles incorporating the 2.0L TSI and TFSI engines. These tensioners and chains should have been replaced under the original warranty or an extended warranty program since Volkswagen knew these components were defective and would cause premature and often unannounced expensive engine failure. This is evidenced by the subsequent revisions to the tensioner and chain performed in late 2011 in an effort to correct the original defects.
    An amended complaint is being prepared to add more plaintiffs. It is anticipated the total time commitment for persons participating as named class representatives will be less than 6 hours. This commitment would consist of reviewing the service history of their respective vehicle, responding to Volkswagen’s informational requests and a few hours of deposition testimony.
    There is no cost for participation in the class action. The law firms handling the case will pay all expenses and will not be paid unless the case is successful. The participation incentive for class representatives (authorized by the court and paid by Volkswagen if the class action is successful) should be between $5,000.00 and $7,500.00. We will attempt to select the best class representative from each state based on vehicle purchase history, failure mileage and date of failure. Although you may not be a named class representative, you will remain a member of the class unless you decide to opt out at a later time. Regardless whether you are interested in participating as a named class representative, you should retain all vehicle service and repair records. If your engine tensioner system parts are still available, they should also be preserved.
    Although each class action has different results, the usual refrain that the class action only benefited the lawyers and they received most if not all of the settlement money is simply not true. The last Volkswagen class action case where I participated concerned engine oil sludge occurring in 1.8L VW/Audi engines. The settlement resulted in tens of millions of dollars in repair reimbursements to vehicle owners for oil-sludged engines and 500,000 vehicle owners received a comprehensive extended engine warranty covering oil sludge related damage.
    Accompanying this email is a VOLKSWAGEN TIMING TENSIONER/CHAIN PLAINTIFF INFORMATION SHEET and an AUTHORIZATION TO BE ADDED AS A NAMED PLAINTIFF IN THE VOLKSWAGEN TIMING TENSIONER/CHAIN CLASS ACTION AND REPRESENTATION AGREEMENT. If you have any questions concerning either document, please email or call me.

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    I'm still working on my Stage I oil consumption and when I hit the mileage to bring it back to the dealer for Stage II, I'll have them change the timing chain tensioners. I'm sure I'll have to pay for the parts since this lawsuit won't be official yet.
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    Subbed. My hope is that we can maybe negotiate a goodwill fix ahead of an outright failure. 2010 @ 85k right now, would like to get the work done to take care of the known issue. Hopefully they will treat this as a recall and allow for proactive mitigation of the issue and not wait for it to blow up. Stage 2 consumption was performed prior to me purchasing the car and service records make no mention of TC components being changed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerritt View Post
    When is stage II recommended? I did stage I but never even knew there was a stage II. My car burns oil like crazy
    ? You might want to read through this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerritt View Post
    I'll search for the cliffs notes, that's like 60 pages of reading lol


    The dealer changes a few parts and what not for Stage I and you drive a certain amount of miles or if the oil light comes on before the end of those miles.

    When you go back they check to see how much it burned and the light being on makes it easier for them to tell Stage I wasn't the fix.

    Next they do Stage II and replace pistons and rings which will fix the issue.
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    Audi did my pistons and rings and all the oil consumption required stuff, and i still have oil consumption. Sure I can blame the turbo now since the car has reached 140k miles but its still a f**** disappointment that audi still didnt get this 4 cylinder 2.0l engine right.
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    Anyone heard an update on any lawsuits?
    I'm as cool as a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce.

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    http://m.carcomplaints.com/news/2016...-lawsuit.shtml

    Another class action

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    2012 a4 @ 81k here. Would be awesome if Audi/VW would fix their own problems.

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    Thanks, too, for the update. I plugged into my VAGCOM cable and saw that I have one of the engine codes in question.

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    would love to get a reimbursement at some point.

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    I'll getting the tensioner, chain, and guides replaced by the dealer as precautionary. All out of my pocket (actually not as bad as I thought). This shit is scary.

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    good call A4x, if you want to just double check you can perform the inspection via the lower timing cover just to be 100% sure you have one of the old/bad versions. There could be a possibility that it was changed by a previous owner as an example.
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    I'm at 86k i have had the oil consumption problem completely fixed. should i wait to do the timing chain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I'm at 86k i have had the oil consumption problem completely fixed. should i wait to do the timing chain?
    sucks the best time would have been when they already had it all apart. wasting like 600-800 in labor now
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHave2Turbos View Post
    sucks the best time would have been when they already had it all apart. wasting like 600-800 in labor now
    I didn't own the car when it got fixed unfortunately, if i did i would have. i was merely asking because if the lawsuit goes good, and they end up replacing everyones, should i wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I didn't own the car when it got fixed unfortunately, if i did i would have. i was merely asking because if the lawsuit goes good, and they end up replacing everyones, should i wait.
    so far the lawsuit is only looking to compensate people who's tensioner failure has led to catastrophic engine failure.

    the rest of us are doing the ~$900 job as "preventative maintenance" even though the part was listed by Audi as lifetime.

    The fact that they have revised the part multiple times shows they knew there was an issue with it.
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    They'd likely reimburse as they did for the oil consumption issue. I would just do it.

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    yeah exactly that's why i kept all the original parts and receipts from the job. fingers crossed!
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    Does anyone know how long it took for the oil consumption settlement to go through once the lawsuit was filed? Just trying to set some kind of expectation as to when we will hear something regarding the TCT lawsuit - it's been about 15-16 months since it was filed I believe.



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    What would be necessary to get reimbursed? Parts, a receipt, etc

    Does it make a difference if the dealership or an Independent shop does the repair?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DetRebel View Post
    What would be necessary to get reimbursed? Parts, a receipt, etc

    Does it make a difference if the dealership or an Independent shop does the repair?


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    Definitely all receipts. Unsure on the Independent vs. Dealer question though. Most people who had oil consumption issues fixed were not DIY'ing that.

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    Thanks JB!


    This may be helpful to someone here, castrol offers a warranty on certain repairs if you sign up for their program. I'm past the second owner mileage limit so I can't apply.


    https://castrol-warranty.email-prefe...rranty-details


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    Quote Originally Posted by DetRebel View Post
    Thanks JB!


    This may be helpful to someone here, castrol offers a warranty on certain repairs if you sign up for their program. I'm past the second owner mileage limit so I can't apply.


    https://castrol-warranty.email-prefe...rranty-details


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    Can't see how this is applies, at all. The problem isn't an oil quality issue, it's an OEM manufacturing defect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBAeroEngineer View Post
    Can't see how this is applies, at all. The problem isn't an oil quality issue, it's an OEM manufacturing defect.
    You're correct but it doesn't hurt to call and see if they'll offer support 🤷🏽*♂️. Just as people call and ask AofA for support when they're out of warranty, you'll never know if you don't ask.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DetRebel View Post
    You're correct but it doesn't hurt to call and see if they'll offer support 🤷🏽*♂️. Just as people call and ask AofA for support when they're out of warranty, you'll never know if you don't ask.


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    line item 3 directly states otherwise. i won't bother.

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    Oil consumption repair completed yesterday.

    Just found this thread today.

    I had to replace chain, tensioner and motor mounts for the cost of $1,720.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keystoneclassic View Post
    2010 A4 Avant
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    Oil consumption repair completed yesterday.

    Just found this thread today.

    I had to replace chain, tensioner and motor mounts for the cost of $1,720.


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    Motor mounts and chain/tensioner are not covered. Should be only paying for parts though and maybe 1/2 hour of labor.
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    So here i am...at 95,500 miles. Just changed the oil and it started bucking and shaking like mad. Ran the Carista and got the following. My question is, have Audi dealerships been taking care of this or do i have to get in on a lawsuit??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    You have a tune. Youre screwed


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    Agree here. It would be difficult for a dealer to help you out. You can always try, but don't expect them to do much, especially with how many miles you have.

    Try an independent shop?

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    Nicholas here, I am working on a 2006 A3 3.2l Sline with low milage and it has an erratic idle, poor fuel economy and showed an O2 sensor on bank 2 fault.
    I have replaced the original spark plugs and the O2 sensor and the car has good power and is smooth running except at an idle. No fault codes now.
    MY MAJOR ISSUE now is a "rattle" from the right (transmission) side of the engine.
    I have researched it and found that this MAY be a timing chain issue.
    Thoughts?

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    I got a letter from some class action lawsuit for my A3 and they asked me to submit receipt for reimbursement however I have replace the tensioner yet. I dont knowing If they will pay if I replace it now.

    A4 is on the same boat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndk View Post
    Nicholas here, I am working on a 2006 A3 3.2l Sline with low milage and it has an erratic idle, poor fuel economy and showed an O2 sensor on bank 2 fault.
    I have replaced the original spark plugs and the O2 sensor and the car has good power and is smooth running except at an idle. No fault codes now.
    MY MAJOR ISSUE now is a "rattle" from the right (transmission) side of the engine.
    I have researched it and found that this MAY be a timing chain issue.
    Thoughts?
    i would probably think you should go to the forum for your car for additional info. that is a different car and different generation to this forum.
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    Got another letter they have denied my claim based on the request for information they said I didn't provided in time nor adequately.
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    They won’t make it easy to get money in this class action lawsuit

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    Has anyone received anything positive? It’s been months and I haven’t seen anybody get anything yet.


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    Still haven't received anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erickr1117 View Post
    Has anyone received anything positive? It’s been months and I haven’t seen anybody get anything yet.


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    Nothing since the letter about being denied because it wasn't completed at an Audi dealer. That was then rescinded via email and phone call (a few folks got this too). Thier web page says initial payments will go out in mid August. I have received nothing since so I am hoping I get a nice envelope in August.

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