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    Is this normal?(Oil pressure problems)

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    SO! I received an oil pressure light a couple weeks ago (repair time has been slow).

    The events went:

    1. Cold start, coldest day of year.
    2. Drive out of my driveway.
    3. Oil pressure light 5 feet out.
    4. Shut off car instantly.
    5. Towed back in my driveway.

    So I decided to pull my engine and see whats up considering I just bought a ton of stuff from JHM.

    Is this normal? Both balance shafts spin and no damage seems to be done outside of it looks burnt. Note that it is only on the one side.

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    as I have never had my engine out, what s that piece ?

    you pulled the whole engine out already as soon as the light came on ? wow !!! now that's aggressive troubleshooting :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    as I have never had my engine out, what s that piece ?

    you pulled the whole engine out already as soon as the light came on ? wow !!! now that's aggressive troubleshooting :)
    That is the oil pump lol. To be fair I pulled the engine because I wanted to check the bearings for wear as I am putting a bunch of upgrades on and don't want to upgrade an engine that maybe fucked lol.
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    how long did it take to pull the engine out ?
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    The discoloring of the pump is normal. Look inside the pickup and see if there is crap built up in there.

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    how long did it take to pull the engine out ?
    The engine can be pulled in an evening no problem with the right tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    The discoloring of the pump is normal. Look inside the pickup and see if there is crap built up in there.



    The engine can be pulled in an evening no problem with the right tools.
    To pull the engine, 2 hours or so with taking my time. Getting the stripped bolt out of the crank shaft pulley... lets not talk about it.

    The hardest part is not saying fuck it with all the connectors lol.

    There was a little bit of metal which looked like it was from the failed cam follower which was replaced by audi, but it didn't look like it would be enough to clog anything.

    Pulling a cap tonight.. scared too lol. Which cap is the one that receives the least oil?
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    The exhaust cam bearings from what i've seen. The cam seized in the head it was so bad. The #3 main bearing had just started to wipe.
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    Curious how cold is coldest? Do you have a catch can setup? I've seen oil pressure warnings on cars at 0 degrees Fahrenheit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    The exhaust cam bearings from what i've seen. The cam seized in the head it was so bad. The #3 main bearing had just started to wipe.
    Yikes. I didn't want to pull the cams if I didn't have too =\.

    Coldest meaning the wind chill was under 0F and no catch can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeoj112689 View Post
    Yikes. I didn't want to pull the cams if I didn't have too =\.

    Coldest meaning the wind chill was under 0F and no catch can.
    Try to turn the exhaust cam sprocket by hand. If it doesn't move at all, try a wrench on the bolt. It should move a little in either direction pretty easily by hand though. If you can't get it to move, the head is probably junk.
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    I doubt it's that catastrophic. He shut the car off himself, it didn't seize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    I doubt it's that catastrophic. He shut the car off himself, it didn't seize.
    Probably not, but that's what I saw on the engine I bought. The exhaust cam bearings showed the most damage. Even with the exhaust cam seized in the head, the main bearing had only just begun to wipe. That leads me to believe that the head would generally fair worse than the block in low oil pressure situations. If his cam still turns, he's likely ok and just needs to correct the low pressure problem.
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    Ahh. Yea good point.
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    Everything moves fine and smooth. Should I pull the caps anyway to find out?

    The low pressure lights could have been a fluke? Still changing to 1.8t pump if anyone wants my old pump for cheap. (NO CLUE ON THE STATUS BUT IT TURNS FINE)
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    If you drive a lot of short trips, and you get a light pulling out of the garage at low temps, you might have had this scene inside your oil pan.

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    That's why they updated the picukp to include a backup suction. If the main suction is clogged or frozen, the check valve opens and the other suction is used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis View Post
    ^^Wow, never seen something like that
    What's really odd about that picture, you can see the car is in a shop....I assume a warm shop. And we all know you cannot pull the pan in 10 minutes. So that car had been in a warm shop for over an hour and that was the iceberg that remained!!
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    That pic happened to me.
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    I had nothing like that. I am going to pull a cap and the head cover. IF I can get the crank bolt off I will do the timing.... I have tried everything I have lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeoj112689 View Post
    I had nothing like that. I am going to pull a cap and the head cover. IF I can get the crank bolt off I will do the timing.... I have tried everything I have lol.
    Why do you need to pull the crank bolt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    Why do you need to pull the crank bolt?
    This. Don't pull the crank bolt unless absolutely necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    This. Don't pull the crank bolt unless absolutely necessary.
    Converting to the 1.8t pump.. I need to pull the crank bolt to put the new gear on because the teeth are different. Unless I am mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeoj112689 View Post
    Converting to the 1.8t pump.. I need to pull the crank bolt to put the new gear on because the teeth are different. Unless I am mistaken.
    Yes, you have to pull the crank bolt for that. I missed that you were converting to 1.8 oil pump. Good luck breaking that bastard loose. It sucks unless you have a monster impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeoj112689 View Post
    Converting to the 1.8t pump.. I need to pull the crank bolt to put the new gear on because the teeth are different. Unless I am mistaken.
    Oh yea. Nevermind then.
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    I have a beast snapon 1/2 impact... not doing the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeoj112689 View Post
    I have a beast snapon 1/2 impact... not doing the trick.
    Crank up the air pressure a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    Crank up the air pressure a bit.
    Already tried. I am only running it on a small compressor though so it may not have the juice. I put my entire weight on it with a breaker bar and cheater bar and nothing outside of a pulled muscle happened lol.
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    Torch the mother f*cker

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroPickleB7 View Post
    Torch the mother f*cker
    Tried with a MAP torch at that. This fucking this is not wanting to come off. I torched it for 5-10 mins and then tried my huge breaker bar with a pipe and my full body weight (180lbs) and nothing.
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    I'm surprised you haven't stripped a bolt off or cracked your socket open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroPickleB7 View Post
    I'm surprised you haven't stripped a bolt off or cracked your socket open.

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    Impact sockets are hard to break lol. I did break 2 breaker bars and a ratchet.
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    That bolt is one tough mother f*cker to break loose. Took me and my friend both putting our weight on a large breaker bar to get it loose

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    I'm not crazy about this idea, but I've seen it work. Pull fuel and spark fuses. Put socket and breaker bar on the bolt. Rest bar against frame or concrete ground. Turn engine over by use of starter for a second. Of course this means it still has to be in the car....

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    Replacing Breaker Bars is a lot cheaper and easier than replacing a fried starter motor...
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    My balance shaft sprocket snapped while doing 160kph on the highway last month. I pulled over as quickly as possible (5 seconds) and turned it off. Started the engine for another 4 times for 10 seconds each time to get off the ramp and wait for a tow. Since you turned it off right away and didn't start again, I doubt you have any damage whatsoever. I got away with no damage to the engine. Had to pull the balance shaft module and replace the sprocket. I also noticed some discoloration. Just make sure your balance shafts aren't loose. This video was helpful -----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWbd7y8HLco The crank bolt is hard to take off. We torched it, sprayed some WD-40 and then came back to it after a couple of hours. That seemed to do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amansoor View Post
    My balance shaft sprocket snapped while doing 160kph on the highway last month. I pulled over as quickly as possible (5 seconds) and turned it off. Started the engine for another 4 times for 10 seconds each time to get off the ramp and wait for a tow. Since you turned it off right away and didn't start again, I doubt you have any damage whatsoever. I got away with no damage to the engine. Had to pull the balance shaft module and replace the sprocket. I also noticed some discoloration. Just make sure your balance shafts aren't loose. This video was helpful -----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWbd7y8HLco The crank bolt is hard to take off. We torched it, sprayed some WD-40 and then came back to it after a couple of hours. That seemed to do the trick.
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    1/2" drive breaker bar and a loooong pipe. If you break that, go to 3/4" drive.
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    I'd go 2" drive bruh. Bigger is always better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by amansoor View Post
    My balance shaft sprocket snapped while doing 160kph on the highway last month. I pulled over as quickly as possible (5 seconds) and turned it off. Started the engine for another 4 times for 10 seconds each time to get off the ramp and wait for a tow. Since you turned it off right away and didn't start again, I doubt you have any damage whatsoever. I got away with no damage to the engine. Had to pull the balance shaft module and replace the sprocket. I also noticed some discoloration. Just make sure your balance shafts aren't loose. This video was helpful -----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWbd7y8HLco The crank bolt is hard to take off. We torched it, sprayed some WD-40 and then came back to it after a couple of hours. That seemed to do the trick.
    Tried that... I am having my 280 lb friend come over and see if he can help lol.

    I haven't touched it due to working too much but I did get some free wheels :D 265/35R19's for free :D *235 for the front I think idk off the top of my head.

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