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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Clutch or Transmission, Shudder under full boost hit with occasional slip...

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    Background: Car makes north of 550whp, normal clutch activity and shifting UNTIL boost comes on.

    2nd gear pulls hard but it feels like a shuddering/tires breaking loose but they aren't. Sometimes is pulls great and nothing feels out of the ordinary.

    3rd gear immediate shudder/vibration followed by a "slip". If I feather the pedal after the slip it will pull like normal. Last night I could feel the vibration towards the rear of the car.

    If I pedal it, it may grab it may not or it will shudder.

    Mounts look good but would they cause a slipping issue if they were bad?

    Im use to a clutch just slipping, this is something that can be felt very noticeably and nothing is consistent.

    Any help is appreciated.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings MikeyB3's Avatar
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    What you're describing sounds like clutch slippage.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Agreed. Same here

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Well. .. not sure about the shuddering. Mine will slip into space sometimes but no shudder.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Yea it feels like it's trying to grab. I guess I'll inspect it when I pull. Wonder if there is a way to test the transmission? I mean what could it be, it's quiet and no weird issues other than under full power.
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    Could it be the driveshaft? Just throwing ideas out there

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Zba's Avatar
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    Come on you noobs, the only slipping is going to occur at the clutch. I'm willing to bet the op is not running a full face disc

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    southbend 6 puck stage 4 extreme. So the transmission going bad won't exhibit slip like conditions?
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Zba's Avatar
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    Automatic? Sure. Manual? No, there are gears meshing so ZERO chance of slip. Manual transmissions like to fail in a more catastrophic manner.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Zba's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zba View Post
    Automatic? Sure. Manual? No, there are gears meshing so ZERO chance of slip. Manual transmissions like to fail in a more catastrophic manner.
    The shuddering is most likely just each puck sliding across the flywheel and pressure plate. A full face disc would not have the same feel.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    I kind of assumed this but needed confirmation. Thanks for the advice.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Tjtalan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zba View Post
    The shuddering is most likely just each puck sliding across the flywheel and pressure plate. A full face disc would not have the same feel.
    This...

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Damn you, making too much sense! Just need to hear it from others.
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    my 6 puck slipping was butter smooth, no juddering or jarring... Anyhow, it is definitely a slip and perhaps some more extensive damage to clutch took place that makes it judder. How is clutch operating during normal conditions?

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    my 6 puck slipping was butter smooth, no juddering or jarring... Anyhow, it is definitely a slip and perhaps some more extensive damage to clutch took place that makes it judder. How is clutch operating during normal conditions?

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    It chatters bad on starts but it's not bad during normal shifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue AWD View Post
    It chatters bad on starts but it's not bad during normal shifting.
    Sounds like you will need a new clutch to me.

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    what kind of flywheel? aluminum or steel? i believe aly ones will chatter regardless.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Lots a LWFW but I've been on 4 clutches and this is by far the worst chatter. I thought it was just during break in but it never went away. I had this clutch rebuilt and before it didn't chatter like this.
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