Dual in -> Single out FMIC

[CJ_]

I was cruising through some build threads last night and found this pretty interesting. I was curious if anyone ever saw logs or data from this setup? Or if anyones done something similar?

He's running a dual 2.5" inlet to single 3" outlet with a BOV and MAF between the intercooler and throttle body on k24s.

Im interested because the core looks shorter and could fit in the whole opening of the bumper

CX makes a similar core: http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant...gory_Code=INCO

All pics came from the following thread:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-Top-End/page5









He even made a video about the install

[MacDaddy]

There used to be a kit on eBay for the dual in single out intercooler, I found a few threads on it and apparently it's not that bad of a kit.

[Austonwerner4]

That's not a CX IC
It's a treadstone.

That is Meows car which he no longer has.

[CJ_]

Ah, I see, They have comparable size, The CX is 24x7x3.5 where the treadstone is 25x6x3.5 giving the CX a greater overall volume, which I know isn't everything.

I know he no longer has the car, just wondering if anyone ever saw logs like he said he was going to post.

[RedRocketS4]

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...cooler++1000HP

they sell everything cheaper one ebay with free shipping for whatever reason. fits behind bumper just fine. flow is good. best to run meth with it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Treadstone-F...1VhIhZ&vxp=mtr

[killerkali]

treadstone is good shit

[RedRocketS4]

And I have one of these units that I can let got of for a decent deal if anyone is interested, but the little inlet and oulet pipes are cut off.

[CJ_]

Would this setup be better to run with meth? since you would only have one nozzle to worry about?

[Meow]

This is my car, the core is NOT an ebay core, it is a legit core from Treadstone. All the piping was cut and fitted and welded by hand, the brackets are diy and not the best in the world but they work.

Here is the build thread - http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...nd-and-Top-End

I sold the car and moved on, it was a fun build but I realized it would never be what I really wanted.

[Meow]

Snowtrooper (jared) also has this same core on his single turbo with a single in, single out end tank design. It flows really well. The cx racing intercooler is junk, it doesn't have the proper fin design to even compare to a good quality treadstone core.

[RedRocketS4]

i am running the same core on both of my single turbo cars now, but with single in and single out end tanks. I think its the TRV 25 that I have. good for me so far.

[CJ_]

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a X vs Y intercooler debate. Just wanted more info on the setup was all.

Meow, did you ever get any logs from the setup?

Are there benefits/downfalls of running the maf and bov on that side of the turbos?

[getslideways]

Are there benefits/downfalls of running the maf and bov on that side of the turbos?

the BOV should always be on that side of the turbo....

[getslideways]

I sold the car and moved on, it was a fun build but I realized it would never be what I really wanted.

A dude magnet?

[Meow]

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a X vs Y intercooler debate. Just wanted more info on the setup was all.

Meow, did you ever get any logs from the setup?

Are there benefits/downfalls of running the maf and bov on that side of the turbos?

I have logs, on my old laptop somewhere. I'll have to dig them up.

The maf in blow through can be a bit challenging to tune. Its not something most tuners would enjoy working with so be sure to ask your tuner what they are willing to do.

The bov should always be after the turbo though... lol. It can be before or after the intercooler, but if you do it before you will need two of them.

[CJ_]

Yeah sorry, I meant intercooler lol.

Where were you injecting the methanol at?

[Meow]

Yeah sorry, I meant intercooler lol.

Where were you injecting the methanol at?

I never ran meth with that setup.

[CJ_]

Just drew up a model for this intercooler setup using Bobkat's template.

Was curious if this looks right or if anyone has any suggestions? Would it need check valves anywhere?

Basically this would be deleting the n80 and n249 and routing the BOV directly to the top of the IM along with the other obvious changes.

[RedRocketS4]

Don't forget the MAP sensor

[CJ_]

Do you still need to run a MAP with an hpx MAF? Would it go between the MAF and IM then?

[Quattro_The_Dog]

I have logs, on my old laptop somewhere. I'll have to dig them up.

The maf in blow through can be a bit challenging to tune. Its not something most tuners would enjoy working with so be sure to ask your tuner what they are willing to do.

The bov should always be after the turbo though... lol. It can be before or after the intercooler, but if you do it before you will need two of them.

The bov or bpv should always be to the turbo side of the intercooler, you only need one. The most efficient place for evacuating pressure from and towards the turbo and not flowing needless air through the IC core.

[phila_dot]

Just drew up a model for this intercooler setup using Bobkat's template.

Was curious if this looks right or if anyone has any suggestions? Would it need check valves anywhere?

Basically this would be deleting the n80 and n249 and routing the BOV directly to the top of the IM along with the other obvious changes.

I wouldn't recommend anything about that setup.

If you insist on it, then you will need to move the BOV as far away from the MAF as possible. It's also recommended to have a distance 3 times the diameter of straight and even pipe pre-MAF and that it be placed at least 10 inches before the throttle body.

I hope you aren't looking to run high boost pressure either because MAF readings can become erratic under high pressure.

The HPX MAF isn't magic and all of this still applies.

And yes, you will still need a MAP sensor in the stock location.

I suggest you talk seriously with your tuner before you invest in this design.

[Meow]

I suggest you talk seriously with your tuner before you invest in this design.

Pretty sure the new owner is looking into having you tune it... lol.