ECS tuning CTS LW pulley pics don't add up.

[WAF]

Jason can you verify that the CTS pulley that you have a pic of is the correct pulley for the B8 A4?

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B8_A4...eys/ES2848047/

This pulley you have advertised is this which is the B7 pulley. please update your pics your MFG# is correct.

http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/product...-4675-653.html

This doesn't add up to CTS website.

http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/product...-4677-653.html

Thanks.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

There was an error with the pictures it has been corrected now.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Jason

[WAF]

There was an error with the pictures it has been corrected now.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Jason

No worries thanks for updating it. Also I'm curious if ECS will be making a LW Pulley?

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Possibly as it has been discussed but it's kind of on the back burner.

Jason

[WAF]

Possibly as it has been discussed but it's kind of on the back burner.

Jason

Ok, thanks for the info. Do you know of any issues with either the CTS one or Fluidampr? Seems like a big difference in power output between the two. I'm looking at replacing my Eurocode pulley.

[blbroo]

Ok, thanks for the info. Do you know of any issues with either the CTS one or Fluidampr? Seems like a big difference in power output between the two. I'm looking at replacing my Eurocode pulley.

What is different about the CTS pulley that it wouldn't cause the same issues that the EC one does?

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Ok, thanks for the info. Do you know of any issues with either the CTS one or Fluidampr? Seems like a big difference in power output between the two. I'm looking at replacing my Eurocode pulley.

You're really comparing apples to oranges between a Fluidampr and an aluminum light weight pulley. The Fluidampr is more for keeping engine harmonics in check if you have other mods like a light weight flywheel, removed balance shafts etc. A light weight Aluminum pulley isn't going to have any damping abilities so you may experience engine vibrations through out different rpm ranges you didn't experience before. But you can gain additional horse power and increased turbo spool due to the lower rotational weight which allows the engine to spin up quicker. It's really a personal preference, do you want to extract more horsepower or have a vehicle that feels smooth.

Jason

[WAF]

You're really comparing apples to oranges between a Fluidampr and an aluminum light weight pulley. The Fluidampr is more for keeping engine harmonics in check if you have other mods like a light weight flywheel, removed balance shafts etc. A light weight Aluminum pulley isn't going to have any damping abilities so you may experience engine vibrations through out different rpm ranges you didn't experience before. But you can gain additional horse power and increased turbo spool due to the lower rotational weight which allows the engine to spin up quicker. It's really a personal preference, do you want to extract more horsepower or have a vehicle that feels smooth.

Jason

I like power but the Fluidampr one states it produces more power than the CTS one which is Aluminum?? My main concern is the pulley being worn down like the EuroCode ones have been.

@blbroo This is what I'm trying to figure out if any wear will occur etc. It looks very similar.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

I like power but the Fluidampr one states it produces more power than the CTS one which is Aluminum?? My main concern is the pulley being worn down like the EuroCode ones have been.

@blbroo This is what I'm trying to figure out if any wear will occur etc. It looks very similar.

The claims for power seem highly dependent on how modified your vehicle is. I'd imagine Stage 1 - Stage 2 vehicles would be on the lower spectrum of the claim where is a Stage 3 or big turbo vehicle would be at the higher end. This pulley is also cataloged to GTI which is FWD and will net more power due to less drive train loss so keep that in mind.

Over all it's just a pulley so there's no magic engineering that's going to make one drastically make more power than the other. The limiting factor is weight so obviously the more weight you take off the pulley the more potential power it can make. Obviously you can't remove too much otherwise it could easily break apart due to lack of structure. So finding the right balance between structural strength and weight reduction is key.

Looking at the materials the CTS and EC seem to be made from the same 6061 T6 Aluminum, so if the EC is wearing down so would the CTS. Fluidampr doesn't list what material they use for the ribbed portion and other structural parts. But their part is SFI certified. The SFI Foundation Inc. is a non-profit organization established to issue and administer standards for specialty/performance automotive and racing equipment. Many of these standards are pretty rigorous so a passing certification holds high merit for quality and reliability.

I hope this helps!

Jason

[wyld]

do you want to extract more horsepower or have a vehicle that feels smooth.

both pls, k thx

[WAF]

The claims for power seem highly dependent on how modified your vehicle is. I'd imagine Stage 1 - Stage 2 vehicles would be on the lower spectrum of the claim where is a Stage 3 or big turbo vehicle would be at the higher end. This pulley is also cataloged to GTI which is FWD and will net more power due to less drive train loss so keep that in mind.

Over all it's just a pulley so there's no magic engineering that's going to make one drastically make more power than the other. The limiting factor is weight so obviously the more weight you take off the pulley the more potential power it can make. Obviously you can't remove too much otherwise it could easily break apart due to lack of structure. So finding the right balance between structural strength and weight reduction is key.

Looking at the materials the CTS and EC seem to be made from the same 6061 T6 Aluminum, so if the EC is wearing down so would the CTS. Fluidampr doesn't list what material they use for the ribbed portion and other structural parts. But their part is SFI certified. The SFI Foundation Inc. is a non-profit organization established to issue and administer standards for specialty/performance automotive and racing equipment. Many of these standards are pretty rigorous so a passing certification holds high merit for quality and reliability.

I hope this helps!

Jason

Ok thanks Jason, CTS has stated no wear issues to their knowledge. Still a lil undecided.

[o1turbo30v]

I don't understand why people waste money on these things they make no noticeable power improvement and can potentially ruin your engine......id save the money and put it towards a more worth while mod.

[shonseb]

I don't understand why people waste money on these things they make no noticeable power improvement and can potentially ruin your engine......id save the money and put it towards a more worth while mod.

I disagree. On my A5 it made a noticeable difference when I got the EC pulley. I never had issues like anyone is describing and was contemplating getting this again on my A4 but after reading all the issues, I decided against this. I'm guessing that no one has seen as many issues on the CTS pulley as they have far fewer customers with these installed compared to EC.

[WAF]

I don't understand why people waste money on these things they make no noticeable power improvement and can potentially ruin your engine......id save the money and put it towards a more worth while mod.

I disagree on that I noticed an improvement when I installed the EC pulley. I don't have anymore mods to do....aside from EFR and internals thanks for the suggestion.

@shonseb I believe your right on the CTS pulley as they probably have fewer units out in the field. Hard to say if an issue will arise with the CTS one. Fluidampr has a good reputation though, just hard to justify double the price of the CTS pulley.

[o1turbo30v]

I disagree. On my A5 it made a noticeable difference when I got the EC pulley. I never had issues like anyone is describing and was contemplating getting this again on my A4 but after reading all the issues, I decided against this. I'm guessing that no one has seen as many issues on the CTS pulley as they have far fewer customers with these installed compared to EC.

Wow, can you send me the contact information for the company who calibrated your butt dyno?! EC claims a max 9hp gain
which is a 1% gain or in other words, unnoticeable.

[van462]

Seems if they had made the pulley aluminum, but had a harder metal sleeve where the front main seal contacts it would have been fine. The 9 hp gain was also at lower RPM when the motor is only making 100 hp. By their charts at 2700 RPM you are making the same power as you would at 3100RPM (stock pulley).

[inv3rtig0]

Wow, can you send me the contact information for the company who calibrated your butt dyno?! EC claims a max 9hp gain
which is a 1% gain or in other words, unnoticeable.

Speaking of calibration...

1% x 100 = 100%
9hp x 100 = 900hp

[shonseb]

Wow, can you send me the contact information for the company who calibrated your butt dyno?! EC claims a max 9hp gain
which is a 1% gain or in other words, unnoticeable.

Don't take my word for it, take everybody's review on it. There are tons out there. There was definitely a noticeable improvement in acceleration. I especially noticed this when on the highway when accelerating to pass. Are you calling me out based on your personal experience with the product or are you just talking out of your ass?

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[WAF]

Don't take my word for it, take everybody's review on it. There are tons out there. There was definitely a noticeable improvement in acceleration. I especially noticed this when on the highway when accelerating to pass. Are you calling me out based on your personal experience with the product or are you just talking out of your ass?

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shonseb you must have got you butt dyno same place as mine. Is your contact info for the dyno place 1-800-GOTROLLSOMEWHEREELSE @o1turbo30v . EC pulley made a difference no questions asked.