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  1. #1
    Veteran Member Four Rings q_dubz's Avatar
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    Exclamation ***b7 s4 cutting out while driving***

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    I'm at a complete loss on diagnosing this thing any further. This car will start and idle just fine, and leave the driveway and cruise just fine. All of a sudden i will lose all power as if the key was cut off for a TENTH of a second. The car will of course buck and the EPC and CEL light will kick on. Also if im running VCDS, i will lose comms with the module im logging (in this case engine). Its clear the ECM is losing power because if i had a check engine light pre-existing, it would be gone. It is very hard to reproduce this error but it is prone to doing it when shifting BUT NOT ALWAYS sometimes its just under slow accel. All this is kinda telling me a connection is lose but i've SCOURED and found every connection and come up empty. The only connection i can not find is ground connection 121. All it says is it's "Ground Connection 2 (in right front wiring harness)". I've replaced the Fuel and ECM relays.

    Below are my codes, luckily the ABS module caught something

    VCDS Version: Release 14.10.1 (x64)
    Data version: 20150130
    USRT
    Tuesday,17,February,2015,20:18:44:00899

    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
    67 69 75 76 77

    VIN: WAUGL58E35A520761 Mileage: 146530km-91049miles
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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 K HW: 4E0 907 560
    Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0010
    Revision: --H01--- Serial number:
    Coding: 0007711
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 2D51D6BAB412BD49F56-8078

    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0101

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    Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
    Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 C HW: 8E0 614 517 BB
    Component: ESP8 quattro H04 0180
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0004901
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 275D249296EE97190FA-8072

    4 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    000 - - - Intermittent
    01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
    014 - Defective - Intermittent
    18265 - Load Signal
    P1857 - 000 - Error Message from ECU - Intermittent

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    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 820 043 AM
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 2731
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 6CD71BBE1C887441A28-5124

    No fault code found.

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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 907 279 J
    Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0503
    Coding: 01023
    Shop #: WSC 65536
    VCID: 3979F2EA235A11E969E-4B00

    No fault code found.

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    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 H HW: 8E0 959 655 H
    Component: Airbag 9.41 H10 3230
    Revision: 91H10323 Serial number: 0036N000CWJ9
    Coding: 0032707
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 3C77EBFE7F6824C1728-8069

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 B
    Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 02 0070
    Serial number: 6332DRB401818618G
    Coding: 00032707

    Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB401829425F

    Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB4003B259CO

    Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB4003B62308

    Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB4005238089

    Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB400523AC9P

    9 Faults Found:
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number
    000 - - - Intermittent
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01639 - Crash-Sensor for Side Airbag; Rear Passenger Side (G257)
    014 - Defective - Intermittent
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00474 - Control Module for Immobilizer
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01738 - Crash Sensor for Front Airbag; Drivers Side (G283)
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    01739 - Crash Sensor for Front Airbag; Pass. Side (G284)
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

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    Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
    Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0601
    Coding: 02041
    Shop #: WSC 06335
    VCID: 41899A0A4B8A492921E-4B00

    No fault code found.

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    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 920 981 Q HW: 8E0 920 981 Q
    Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0040
    Revision: 0040 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0023201
    Shop #: WSC 02301 444 10073
    VCID: 3B75E8E2796623F97B2-5124

    6 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
    004 - No Signal/Communication

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    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 920 981 Q HW: 8E0 920 981 Q
    Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0040
    Revision: 0040 Serial number: 00000000000000
    Coding: 0023201
    Shop #: WSC 02301 444 10073
    VCID: 3B75E8E2796623F97B2-5142

    6 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01316 - ABS Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
    004 - No Signal/Communication

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    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 760
    Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
    Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 71E90ACA3BAA99A991E-4AE8

    No fault code found.

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    Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 E HW: 8E0 035 192 E
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H54 0650
    Revision: 03S Serial number: AUZBZ7E1501313
    Coding: 0309137
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 2643299692E48E1134C-515E

    No fault code found.

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    Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
    Part No: 8E0 959 433 BT
    Component: Komfortgerát T7B 3232
    Coding: 16232
    Shop #: WSC 06335
    VCID: 0407531E14189C014A8-4AE8

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801F
    Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 1315

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
    Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0205

    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
    Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0205

    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
    Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0205

    17 Faults Found:
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01320 - Control Module for Climatronic (J255)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor
    35-00 - -
    01369 - Alarm triggered by Hood Switch
    35-00 - -
    01371 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Driver's Side
    35-00 - -
    01574 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Rear Right
    35-00 - -
    00955 - Key 1
    35-10 - - - Intermittent
    00956 - Key 2
    35-00 - -
    01403 - Glass-Break Sensors; Rear
    36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    00457 - Control Module for Network (J519)
    49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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    Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
    Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 E HW: 4F0 907 357 E
    Component: AFS 1 H01 0010
    Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
    Coding: 0000019
    Shop #: WSC 01041 444 52566
    VCID: 285F27AE9BF09861060-807D

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 A
    Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0030

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 A
    Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020

    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 E HW: 8E0 035 192 E
    Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H54 0650
    Revision: 03S Serial number: AUZBZ7E1501313
    Coding: 0309137
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 2643299692E48E1134C-515E

    No fault code found.

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  2. #2
    Veteran Member Four Rings q_dubz's Avatar
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    Also this happens with the MAF unplugged as well. Granted its not as bad, it still does it between shifts and at throttle tip-in.

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    Junior Member One Ring spiki's Avatar
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    How does it drives, does it drives normal then just dies or does it run rough bucks and then dies. And how long does it drives for. If it runs rough with MAF off and dies then it's not your issue. Try checking your battery, worst case your ecm is going

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