JHM Dyno...........................................?

[Rad85]

5 from me.


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[jimrobbington]

wait wait wait wait wait wait wait....There is tax on labor now? I'm 98% sure that you're not supposed to be taxed on labor. I mean the shop isn't selling an actual product to you, which means the state won't collect x amount of that, since its "sales tax". Call them back and tell them to eat a dick, that most places do it for 75 and to quit being bitches.

Lol, I don't recall if there's taxes. But there is a $25 fan rental fee! Lol. So technically the dyno is $95 but I'm not going to purposefully induce more heat soak and not use the fans.

[jimrobbington]

I'm in. I'll pay $5 for some dyno #'s. Add me to the masses.

I'm in. I've seen too many JHM dyno requests on the forum to not support this.

What mec said.

And I'm in for $5

Woot!

5 from me.


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All added to the list.

[Hopperstien]

count me in!

[vvenom800tt]

sign me up, where do i send it

[jimrobbington]

count me in!

sign me up, where do i send it

Lol, awesome guys, thanks! We can hash out payment soon.

[jimrobbington]

Good news! I have the dyno scheduled!

Bad news! Next week is booked. I'm scheduled for 9 AM on Groundhog day 2/2. Hopefully the Honey Badger sees his shadow.

[billyhoyle]

Awesome! Nice work (to you and fellow 'ziners) getting this organized so quickly.

[jimrobbington]

Awesome! Nice work (to you and fellow 'ziners) getting this organized so quickly.

For real though. I didn't expect this kinda support, but I'll follow through! Hopefully we get a couple more on board and I'll send out payment options via pm.

[Jake@JHM]

For real though. I didn't expect this kinda support, but I'll follow through! Hopefully we get a couple more on board and I'll send out payment options via pm.

Hope the dyno doesn't let us down! ;)

[mec]

All added to the list.

Rent the fan? Wtf? Are they also charging you per kilowatt hour, and imposing an air tax on the air being used to cool your engine? Is there an additional fee to rent the employee to actually do his job also? Talk about nickel and diming.


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[Jake@JHM]

Rent the fan? Wtf? Are they also charging you per kilowatt hour, and imposing an air tax on the air being used to cool your engine? Is there an additional fee to rent the employee to actually do his job also? Talk about nickel and diming.


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Hahaha I'd rather pay $15 and have fun with my car at the drag-strip all night.

[Jake@JHM]

What kind of Dyno does this place have?

[mec]

Hahaha I'd rather pay $15 and have fun with my car at the drag-strip all night.

Seriously these fees are hilarious! $95 to dyno? If your guy can't put the car on the dyno and strap it down in 15 minutes, then you should probably fire him. And if he can't accelerate to redline 3 times in another 15 minutes then he should also be fired. So $95 for a half hour...I thought my $75 was a lot but I spent like 2 hours dynoing getting like 7 pulls. And chatting up the owner and dyno operator and checking out their 1000hp rabbits


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[drumnjuny]

if u still need $5 i got you.

wish you would go to BW though so we could compare to the the other dynos we have from carl / seth / martin / derrek

[drumnjuny]

Seriously these fees are hilarious! $95 to dyno? If your guy can't put the car on the dyno and strap it down in 15 minutes, then you should probably fire him. And if he can't accelerate to redline 3 times in another 15 minutes then he should also be fired. So $95 for a half hour...I thought my $75 was a lot but I spent like 2 hours dynoing getting like 7 pulls. And chatting up the owner and dyno operator and checking out their 1000hp rabbits


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yeah it was only $75 at bluewater and they even took derrek's bumper off...

[Jake@JHM]

if u still need $5 i got you.

wish you would go to BW though so we could compare to the the other dynos we have from carl / seth / martin / derrek

That's 4 completely different setups though.

[drumnjuny]

That's 4 completely different setups though.

yes. we compare the other 3 haha they're all different... why not compare this one too. it gives context to the numbers... i'm not saying his k03 should put down more power but as we all agreed dynos are not comparable from one dyno to the next


funny part is you already have your dyno, but I never saw it... then we wouldn't even need JR to dyno lol. plus yours is at sea level. juuuust sayyyinnnn


edit: unless by this you meant you have just seen a random sheet from a mustang dyno?

No, I have already seen a dyno sheet from a mustang dyno.

[Jake@JHM]

yes. we compare the other 3 haha why not compare this one too. it gives context to the numbers... i'm not saying his k03 should put down more power but as we all agreed dynos are not comparable from one dyno to the next


funny part is you already have your dyno, but I never saw it... then we wouldn't even need JR to dyno lol. plus yours is at sea level. juuuust sayyyinnnn

Yeah it really wouldn't matter I suppose. None of the variables are close enough to be used as concrete data on either dyno either, for better of for worse.

For what its worth, a JHM stage 1 car did 285wtq on a mustang dyno immediately after being flashed and still being heat soaked from the previous dyno runs on the Uni stage 2 HPFP tune just a few min prior.

285wtq is not bad with a test pipe being the only power adder mod on a heart breaker dyno. The Uni tune did 270wtq.

[jimrobbington]

What kind of Dyno does this place have?

I answered that already in post #15 silly goose!

[leftovers]

You can put my name on the list.

[jimrobbington]

Rent the fan? Wtf? Are they also charging you per kilowatt hour, and imposing an air tax on the air being used to cool your engine? Is there an additional fee to rent the employee to actually do his job also? Talk about nickel and diming.


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Lol, it is what it is. My next car, I can start over with a new dyno. Unless Hauz of Mec gets a dyno first.

[jimrobbington]

Seriously these fees are hilarious! $95 to dyno? If your guy can't put the car on the dyno and strap it down in 15 minutes, then you should probably fire him. And if he can't accelerate to redline 3 times in another 15 minutes then he should also be fired. So $95 for a half hour...I thought my $75 was a lot but I spent like 2 hours dynoing getting like 7 pulls. And chatting up the owner and dyno operator and checking out their 1000hp rabbits


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They have 8 sec evos to look at! And that's mile high 8 sec.

[mec]

Lol, it is what it is. My next car, I can start over with a new dyno. Unless Hauz of Mec gets a dyno first.

Hauz of MEC is gonna do $65 dynos with fan and all taxes included. Everyday all day


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[jimrobbington]

if u still need $5 i got you.

wish you would go to BW though so we could compare to the the other dynos we have from carl / seth / martin / derrek

I'm putting you on the list then.

[Jake@JHM]

yes. we compare the other 3 haha they're all different... why not compare this one too. it gives context to the numbers... i'm not saying his k03 should put down more power but as we all agreed dynos are not comparable from one dyno to the next


funny part is you already have your dyno, but I never saw it... then we wouldn't even need JR to dyno lol. plus yours is at sea level. juuuust sayyyinnnn


edit: unless by this you meant you have just seen a random sheet from a mustang dyno?

Dunno about sea level, just a customer who went and got his Uni Stage2+ removed and went to our stage 1. He dynod his uni tune. flashed to JHM on the dyno and then immediately dynod JHM. Car was heat soaked and un-adapted and still picked up 15wtq Only mod was hpfp (does nothing for power) and a test pipe.

[jimrobbington]

You can put my name on the list.

Boom! $100 right there! Added.

Hauz of MEC is gonna do $65 dynos with fan and all taxes included. Everyday all day


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I want the naked ladies in my car whilst dynoeth.

[mec]

Boom! $100 right there! Added.

I want the naked ladies in my car whilst dynoeth.

"Smegma smeared seat" package is what you want to ask for when you get here


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[mec]

Dunno about sea level, just a customer who went and got his Uni Stage2+ removed and went to our stage 1. He dynod his uni tune. flashed to JHM on the dyno and then immediately dynod JHM. Car was heat soaked and un-adapted and still picked up 15wtq Only mod was hpfp (does nothing for power) and a test pipe.

Wow, gained 15tq by going from Union stage 2+ to jhm stage 1? That's pretty nutty, what can we expect for stage 2 of jhm


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[Jake@JHM]

Wow, gained 15tq by going from Union stage 2+ to jhm stage 1? That's pretty nutty, what can we expect for stage 2 of jhm


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No idea. Still working on it. I would like to see his car with a full exhaust to show how well the tune adapts to hardware.

[mec]

John better make 300wtq! He has fuel pump and full exhaust


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[mec]

Actually I think it's 2" isn't it? And at altitude?


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[drumnjuny]

15wtq increase is pretty baller! but the variablez... ohhhh all the variablezzzz... 1/4m is the only true comparison, and there are zero variablez in that




apparently the max is 30 images. i had 312 to start with had to delete them all. ghey.

[Jake@JHM]

15wtq increase is pretty baller! but the variablez... ohhhh all the variablezzzz... 1/4m is the only true comparison, and there are zero variablez in that




apparently the max is 30 images. i had 312 to start with had to delete them all. ghey.

haha

Bottom line,

1/4 is something that really happened. Real performance in real life. No bull-shit.

Dyno is a guestimation from a computer with a car on a treadmill that can be calibrated differently and have results altered at the dyno operators mercy.



Also, the 1/4 mile something to show exactly what your car can do. What your car is capable of. There is no such thing as a true comparison, unless it is done same day same time same place.

[LINDW4LL]

15wtq increase is pretty baller! but the variablez... ohhhh all the variablezzzz... 1/4m is the only true comparison, and there are zero variablez in that

trollololol. So true.

[Firefox250]

John since its a new tune and obviously JHM is superior to Revo, why not start at a different shop where the majority of us ColoRADoians have Dyno'd. Then you can dyno again once stage 2 comes out. Plus Bluewaters is only $75. Just my 2 cents.

[jimrobbington]

John better make 300wtq! He has fuel pump and full exhaust


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I hope more, considering I once hit 302 wtq with REVO 2. That was back in the day when I could hit 24 - 26 psi under certain conditions.

Actually I think it's 2" isn't it? And at altitude?


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Full 2.5" from turbo to tips I believe.

15wtq increase is pretty baller! but the variablez... ohhhh all the variablezzzz... 1/4m is the only true comparison, and there are zero variablez in that




apparently the max is 30 images. i had 312 to start with had to delete them all. ghey.

Lol, should asked vce what's his name

haha

Bottom line,

1/4 is something that really happened. Real performance in real life. No bull-shit.

Dyno is a guestimation from a computer with a car on a treadmill that can be calibrated differently and have results altered at the dyno operators mercy.



Also, the 1/4 mile something to show exactly what your car can do. What your car is capable of. There is no such thing as a true comparison, unless it is done same day same time same place.

I still feel it's an appropriate gauge to measure CHANGE in performance on a single vehicle. I'm not doing this to compare my car to other cars. I'm doing this to measure the difference between REVO and JHM on the same car and same dyno. I've already expressed my experiences in improvement in the real world. I want to see comparison of area under the curve.

[Jake@JHM]

I hope more, considering I once hit 302 wtq with REVO 2. That was back in the day when I could hit 24 - 26 psi under certain conditions.

Full 2.5" from turbo to tips I believe.

Lol, should asked vce what's his name

I still feel it's an appropriate gauge to measure CHANGE in performance on a single vehicle. I'm not doing this to compare my car to other cars. I'm doing this to measure the difference between REVO and JHM on the same car and same dyno. I've already expressed my experiences in improvement in the real world. I want to see comparison of area under the curve.

Haha I was replying to Arjun. The fact that you have the same car, and same dyno removes a lot of variables. However, the main variables left is weather and temp.

[drumnjuny]

its a proven fact that weather and temp are not different between 1/4m runs.

Or wait let me try again.

It's a proven fact that weather and temp have no effect on 1/4m runs.

Wait I'm confused, which one is in a controlled indoor environment? Ahhh fuck it this is too confusing. I'm gonna google the definitions of "variable" and "proven" instead.

[jimrobbington]

Haha I was replying to Arjun. The fact that you have the same car, and same dyno removes a lot of variables. However, the main variables left is weather and temp.

Agreed. My stage 2 dyno was run at ~40 deg, 2+ was run at ~70 deg. But the fact there was still a tiny bit of improvement in the dyno with this difference proved at least my fmic helped a little (even though $25 fans an efficient fmic does not make) and 2+ had a slight gain in performance. All my dynos have reflected exactly how my but dyno feels in regards to change +-. I knew right away with 2+ I lost some peak torque. Dyno mirrored that feeling.