Are you guys following this? More APR BS.

[inNout]

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=2924.0

Glad I didn't get any hardware from APR.
I'll be switching programming by next summer too.

For those who bought their 'RSC' exhaust... here's your center muffler. LOL



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[homelessNY_LI]

I saw something like this on reddit and then on the s4. its unreal glad I didnt start making mods

[cory_can]

I'm sure this thread (here) will get pulled, I hope it doesn't, but I'm sure it will.

I'm a member on AR and saw this a few days back. I'm hoping APR has something to say. I'm using an "RSC" exhaust and it seems I was outright lied to in them using the Corsa patented technology.

[booost]

Wow


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[Campblett]

Wow and I thought stasis was bad..

[The Infiltrator]

Great, now I want to see the insides of an exhaust I buy from now on. I have the dual STaSIS exhaust and wonder what the looks like.

[Stubek]

It will be interesting. I have never had issues with my APR tune, but the Carbonio had fit issues. I've never used any of their other products. I have to say, this does remind me a little of the Stasis stuff a year or two ago when there were allegations they were taking Audi OEM RS4 sway bars and just powder coating them and putting a sticker on them and calling them Stasis.

I hope for many people's sake, not just APR, but all those people who have bought APR exhausts that this is not true.

Also, the B8S4 guys are talking this issue and have a link to some pictures that are supposedly an APR RSC muffler
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ht=APR%2C+Lies

Its all allegations now, nothing proven, but will be interesting to wait and see.

[dennisA4]

WOW.
I'm glad I decided to go with AWE at the last minute.
Not that I've seen the inside of an AWE exhaust but I doubt it can be worse than this.

[deceptacon]

Has anyone with an APR exhaust have a direct comparison between "RSC" that APR proudly advertises and AWE.
APR will defend themselves and say the exhaust does what its suppose to do. Free flowing and eliminate drone. What is on the inside does not matter.
I have a neuspeed exhaust and to me there is no drone and quiet when crusing. In Vegas I don't deal with snow but my piping and muffler looks as good as new. Neuspeed is t304 stainless.

[Project Quattro]

That's absurd. Glad I've held off on getting an exhaust.


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[bermudakid]

WOW.

+1

[ddun]

Suppose to be like this


Apr's version Looks more like a fancy j-pipe tech if you guys are familiar with that.

[ddun]

But the resonator lol

I have the downpipe, might as well chop that resonator off cuz it hangs so low anyway

[JDillon15]

Doesn't APR outsource their exhaust? I know for the B7 guys it was done by Billyboat.

[name.goes.here]

Definitely glad I left mine alone too.

Bad enough with Audi cracking down on warranty claims without the additional worry of this issue.

[Amorphic]

Thread in the S4 forum as well.

Should be interesting to see if these threads are deleted or if APR responds in some way (doubt it).

[inNout]

Suppose to be like this


Apr's version Looks more like a fancy j-pipe tech if you guys are familiar with that.

But it's more like this, lol

[A4 Centaur]

Glad I've saved my money on an exhaust.

I did have an APR system on my B7 and it was way different and sounded great. The prices for that system was only $1,100. When I got the B8 and looked up the APR system, I was shocked at how much the price had changed, and all the "new technology" stuff. I have held off since I didn't feel the performance gains were worth the advertised prices.

Some guy here on the B8 forums did a magnaflow build for a third of the price of the APR RSC system. Certainly based on gains realized by an exhaust on this platform, the expense of +2k for a full APR exhaust doesn't translate into many HP increase?

Might just continue to hold off until I can afford the AWE or do a magnaflow DIY budget build. Does anyone remember that OP's post?

The mufflers, tips and resonators cost around $200 and he had them welded up and installed. Way more cost effective. If that packing is accurate then that is some seriously lousy work.

[Viru5]

Waiting for Arin to come in and explain this

[Jerry1847]

Glad I didn't buy new.... Would be livid.

[grnfool]

Doesn't APR outsource their exhaust? I know for the B7 guys it was done by Billyboat.

That may be the case but APR still brands the exhaust as theirs. APR should know exactly what they are buying and be familiar with the supplier's manufacturing process. If they don't, shame on them.

[B44]

Awe exhaust all the way....

[pwdrskr]

Awe exhaust all the way....

+1

[dracolnyte]

after buying their downpipe, i felt like i got jipped. glad i didnt buy any more crap from them.

[hyperunion]

after buying their downpipe, i felt like i got jipped. glad i didnt buy any more crap from them.

Not really any gains with dp anyway.... Mainly HFC or test pipe... Which can be used with stock dp

[garybusey]

I love how the APR Representatives are always active and replying to threads, but not one response from them. I'm speechless, I thought real highly of APR.

[dennisA4]

I love how the APR Representatives are always active and replying to threads, but not one response from them. I'm speechless, I thought real highly of APR.

It is the weekend.
I would expect some kind of response Monday.

[dscline]

They've posted some replies in the Vortex thread, until it got closed. But pretty much a bunch of non-responses. But it's pretty entertaining to read some of the Vortex replies. "As long as it doesn't drone, what does it matter?"

[Fburg A4]

You get what you pay for

[dennisA4]

You get what you pay for

LOL, I don't think you understand this analogy.

[dscline]

You get what you pay for

Or not.

[dracolnyte]

Not really any gains with dp anyway.... Mainly HFC or test pipe... Which can be used with stock dp

they call their HFC + downpipe combo just downpipe.

[kt883]

the pictures in this thread look like some sort of ebay no name exhaust. Half ass, especially on hidden parts. Love the part about how they dropped the quality of the stainless for a lower grade yet still advertised it as higher grader AND even had the nerve to raise the price to nearly double what B7 prices were.

At this price point this is simply unacceptable, drone or no drone. APR has always been among the top performers for VW AUDI parts and software but this will definitely do some serious damage.

I'm hanging tight for when they hand out TTRS' for all.

[Jlambe67]

Was this baught directly through apr Or 3rd party?

[lunchbox22]

You get what you pay for

Haha this gave me a good laugh

[cory_can]

Arin, I see you are on AZ this morning. Can you please explain this situation to your customers (including me) that believed we were getting something significantly different. Is APR planning on doing something about this? Audizine is your largest Audi customer base and I believe your customers deserve a proper explanation and remediation.

[hyperunion]

This situation gives " turbo muffler delete" new meaning!!!..
I'm sure we will hear a defined response from Apr corporate..
Let's hope so!!

[r6_11b8]

bet those that are waiting for delivery on one of these bad boys are thrilled reading this lol

[Stuck'ite]

I have a full APR exhaust and it sounds great, and has performed great. I am not, but if someone is that concerned let see them cut the APR exhaust, where we can actually tell it is an APR exhaust, and see the innards. Personally, I am not cutting mine open (ruining it) to see if that is a fake or not......"if it ain't broke, don't cut it open...."

Just say'in.

[b6onboost]

As soon as the APR rep in the Vortex thread began arguing the semantics of what constitutes 'RSC' (even though their website clearly details RSC with a cutout and diagram) there was no doubt in my mind that their is some level of misrepresentation on their website.