Newest and biggest injector for the FSI

[drumnjuny]

People are running 10s and low 11s with S3 injectors. I don't see a real need to go bigger yet.

lmao so much troll

Lololol if only we all had expert tuners.

and beat our clutch and trans every time we floor it like they owe us money

[Jake@JHM]

Because JHM Hats: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...s=hatb&x=0&y=0

[mec]

Because JHM Hats: http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...s=hatb&x=0&y=0

the flexfit one is where the money is at, trucker hats are weird. Oh man it fits soo good, I wear it everywhere and Jace rips on me, but its totally worth it because its just a perfect fit. Its like girls and jeans, how thye can never get a proper pair of jeans, same iwth me and hats.

[ericpaulyoung]

I still want a free hat.

[Jake@JHM]

the flexfit one is where the money is at, trucker hats are weird. Oh man it fits soo good, I wear it everywhere and Jace rips on me, but its totally worth it because its just a perfect fit. Its like girls and jeans, how thye can never get a proper pair of jeans, same iwth me and hats.

Haha why does he do that? That's un-sportsman like.

I still want a free hat.

But you already got one!

[mec]

[mec]

Haha why does he do that? That's sportsmanship like.



But you already got one!

because he is Jace, the man with only half a testicle!

[Jake@JHM]

because he is Jace, the man with only half a testicle!

...

[ericpaulyoung]

Bump for the thread that looks small now but will be hailed as the next best thing since sliced bread as soon as people start using these.

Brand new will run you about $115, so comparible to the S3 but bigger and better atomization. Who could resist??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331313681188?lpid=82

[ericpaulyoung]

And when you say, "well how am I supposed to make the connectors work?". I will answer, buy a harness for $40 for a TSI (they also use the newer plug types).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MK6-VW-JETTA...4e3df3&vxp=mtr

[hpfpupgrade]

Bump for the thread that looks small now but will be hailed as the next best thing since sliced bread as soon as people start using these.

Brand new will run you about $115, so comparible to the S3 but bigger and better atomization. Who could resist??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331313681188?lpid=82

I have been looking at these and was wondering... how much more fuel could you move with this injector and a 155 BAR Performance Rail Valve? I might be just enough to crack that 700 HP level with the 2.0T.

[drumnjuny]

I have been looking at these and was wondering... how much more fuel could you move with this injector and a 155 BAR Performance Rail Valve? I might be just enough to crack that 700 HP level with the 2.0T.

he's back from the dead!!! welcome back bud

[mec]

This thread really is about to be huge, HPFP just came back from the dead!!!!

hpfpupgrade stage 1 pump at 45k and still pumping strong!

eric when do your injectors arrive?

[ericpaulyoung]

Well they are listed as a replacement for the old RS4 injector, which was only a little bigger than the S3, so probably not a huge jump in total flow potential. I think the biggest thing is that it allows us to run the newer multi hole style injector. So they would likely be just a better alternative to the S3. Not a huge difference anywhere, but a little better everywhere.

epy

[mec]

Well they are listed as a replacement for the old RS4 injector, which was only a little bigger than the S3, so probably not a huge jump in total flow potential. I think the biggest thing is that it allows us to run the newer multi hole style injector. So they would likely be just a better alternative to the S3. Not a huge difference anywhere, but a little better everywhere.

epy

This is interesting stuff, I'll have to grab a set for my gtx4202 quad scroll turbo.

[turbo944s2]

Well they are listed as a replacement for the old RS4 injector, which was only a little bigger than the S3, so probably not a huge jump in total flow potential. I think the biggest thing is that it allows us to run the newer multi hole style injector. So they would likely be just a better alternative to the S3. Not a huge difference anywhere, but a little better everywhere.

epy

Keep up the good work bro. I'm anxious to see what they can do.

[Firefox250]

Thank you EPY!!

[derrek]

People are running 10s and low 11s with S3 injectors. I don't see a real need to go bigger yet.

Where is this b7 a4 running 10s and 11s?


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[aluthman]

I'm intrigued, but I'm sticking with my S3's until I need to change them. It's always good to have options though.

[hpfpupgrade]

he's back from the dead!!! welcome back bud

Not from the dead, just a lot of tuning in different markets and making sure we had the cam follower fiasco figured out.

We also have 3 new pumps/engines we are going to be adding for the VW and Audi markets.

Its nice to be back.

[hpfpupgrade]

This thread really is about to be huge, HPFP just came back from the dead!!!!

hpfpupgrade stage 1 pump at 45k and still pumping strong!

eric when do your injectors arrive?

Thanks!

Good to hear that the fuel pump has treated you well!

[mec]

Thanks!

Good to hear that the fuel pump has treated you well!

you still working on injectors?

[hpfpupgrade]

Well they are listed as a replacement for the old RS4 injector, which was only a little bigger than the S3, so probably not a huge jump in total flow potential. I think the biggest thing is that it allows us to run the newer multi hole style injector. So they would likely be just a better alternative to the S3. Not a huge difference anywhere, but a little better everywhere.

epy

What will be interesting, is how the new injector will respond to high pump pressures. The RS4 started to get a little weird after 140 BAR. The S3's we have ran all the way out to 175 BAR without an issue. If we can push these new RS4 injectors out further (more pressure) they might be that gap everyone is looking for to make big power. You can always buy the Bosch Motorsports injectors for $4,000, LOL.

[hpfpupgrade]

you still working on injectors?

Yes, we have managed to make two or three sets but one set always costs us 10 to 12 injectors. Still working on finding high enough precision equipment that can do what we need it to do yet doesn't cost millions of dollars.

Its in our plan of parts we want to bring to the market!

[mec]

Yes, we have managed to make two or three sets but one set always costs us 10 to 12 injectors. Still working on finding high enough precision equipment that can do what we need it to do yet doesn't cost millions of dollars.

Its in our plan of parts we want to bring to the market!

What else you got cookin?

[Jake@JHM]

Where is this b7 a4 running 10s and 11s?


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Never said b7 a4, I said people are running s3 injectors into the 10s and 11s. Look at the golf R.

[derrek]

Never said b7 a4, I said people are running s3 injectors into the 10s and 11s. Look at the golf R.

Link to build threads? I know a lot of the uk guys do it but none of those company's are willing to work with us.


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[hpfpupgrade]

What else you got cookin?

TSI pump has been successfully torn down and put back together. We hope to have TSI pumps ready first of next year, already have prototypes machined, just have to finish the final hone.
We have fuel pumps for the FSI and TSI 4.2 V8's ready. So those supercharged guys needing more fuel... we have them covered.
3.6 FSI and TFSI pump... all done up and ready for those markets.
Working on the 3.6 rail valve, should have that ready first of next year.

Lots and lots of fueling stuff that we are working on right now. Replacement cam followers are getting shippped out to customers every week as we get them done.

Have I missed anything on the forums while I was gone?

[mec]

TSI pump has been successfully torn down and put back together. We hope to have TSI pumps ready first of next year, already have prototypes machined, just have to finish the final hone.
We have fuel pumps for the FSI and TSI 4.2 V8's ready. So those supercharged guys needing more fuel... we have them covered.
3.6 FSI and TFSI pump... all done up and ready for those markets.
Working on the 3.6 rail valve, should have that ready first of next year.

Lots and lots of fueling stuff that we are working on right now. Replacement cam followers are getting shippped out to customers every week as we get them done.

Have I missed anything on the forums while I was gone?

hmmmm I don't think so, everyone dropped the rs4 injectors. S3 injectors are the go to, and they are surprisingly cheap at $240 a set. Oh integrated engineering made their own hpfp kit, thought I don't believe any of us have bought it yet to test it out. JHM tune came out that doesn't require a hpfp, aside from that, everything is exactly as it was a year ago, and a year before that, etc....this platform is so stagnant.

[hpfpupgrade]

Link to build threads? I know a lot of the uk guys do it but none of those company's are willing to work with us.


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We have a set of S3 injectors running at 170 BAR right now in a car over in AUS. Last posted results were 11.1 and something like 530 WHP. He is running our Stage 2 fuel pump and custom rail valve from us. We also have a REVO tuned car running S3 injectors and one of our fueling solutions (Stage 2 fuel pump and 175 BAR rail valve). With methanol he made over 600 WHP! This customer is Germany if I am correct (could be wrong). The S3's can run big power, they just need the fueling to do so, and that is where a Performance Rail Valve and proper tuning play a huge part.

[hpfpupgrade]

hmmmm I don't think so, everyone dropped the rs4 injectors. S3 injectors are the go to, and they are surprisingly cheap at $240 a set. Oh integrated engineering made their own hpfp kit, thought I don't believe any of us have bought it yet to test it out. JHM tune came out that doesn't require a hpfp, aside from that, everything is exactly as it was a year ago, and a year before that, etc....this platform is so stagnant.

We have been pushing S3's for a while now. I am sure that JHM will have another tune soon that requires a fuel pump... that should turn a few heads.

I agree with the platform being slow, its because no one has been pushing the limits. I expect to see great things next year from all the VW and Audi markets!

[seal66]

We have a set of S3 injectors running at 170 BAR right now in a car over in AUS. Last posted results were 11.1 and something like 530 WHP. He is running our Stage 2 fuel pump and custom rail valve from us. We also have a REVO tuned car running S3 injectors and one of our fueling solutions (Stage 2 fuel pump and 175 BAR rail valve). With methanol he made over 600 WHP! This customer is Germany if I am correct (could be wrong). The S3's can run big power, they just need the fueling to do so, and that is where a Performance Rail Valve and proper tuning play a huge part.

I am curious about these higher PRV's.

I have a 155 PRV and the Stg2 HPFP from you. I currently run E85 on my K04. I am curious if a higher PRV well help me out since I am still running the S3's out of fuel almost.

[mec]

We have been pushing S3's for a while now. I am sure that JHM will have another tune soon that requires a fuel pump... that should turn a few heads.

I agree with the platform being slow, its because no one has been pushing the limits. I expect to see great things next year from all the VW and Audi markets!

thats very true, We've got a pair of guys doing some HTA30's thats the new development lol a 3073 and a 3076 one UM tuned and one still undecided, hopefully they push us to 500 wheel, i think the highest we have seen so far is 440 on an hta 3076 with meth and pump. We are definitely the slackers of the audi community, but there is also Eric's project, a sequential build, a small gt25 feeding in a larger gt35(82) i believe. If he pushes it, that project could probably make close to 600.

[derrek]

We have a set of S3 injectors running at 170 BAR right now in a car over in AUS. Last posted results were 11.1 and something like 530 WHP. He is running our Stage 2 fuel pump and custom rail valve from us. We also have a REVO tuned car running S3 injectors and one of our fueling solutions (Stage 2 fuel pump and 175 BAR rail valve). With methanol he made over 600 WHP! This customer is Germany if I am correct (could be wrong). The S3's can run big power, they just need the fueling to do so, and that is where a Performance Rail Valve and proper tuning play a huge part.

Those are probably fwhp numbers right? Also all of the companies outside of the us that I've seen go well past the know fuel limit for awd fsi cars won't help or sell to us in the US. So why not follow up on the other leads instead of just sitting here idle waiting for some company to come out with fuel injector solution. I'm not saying it's impossible to make those number or it hasn't been done other ways I just want to find a way to make my car like that.


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[hpfpupgrade]

I am curious about these higher PRV's.

I have a 155 PRV and the Stg2 HPFP from you. I currently run E85 on my K04. I am curious if a higher PRV well help me out since I am still running the S3's out of fuel almost.

With E85 you are going to want to upgrade the in-tank pump as well. Are you sure that its rail pressure that you are running out of and not in tank pump?

If you have enough in-tank fuel pump, then getting the Performance Rail Valve in a custom setting has worked fantastic for many different people. If you are running a 155 now and have a tuner that is able to tune for higher pressure, I would get a 170 BAR PRV. This should give you an additional 12 to 15% fuel to work with. Straight E85 on our pump hey? Are you running additional lubricant in the fuel?

[hpfpupgrade]

Those are probably fwhp numbers right? Also all of the companies outside of the us that I've seen go well past the know fuel limit for awd fsi cars won't help or sell to us in the US. So why not follow up on the other leads instead of just sitting here idle waiting for some company to come out with fuel injector solution. I'm not saying it's impossible to make those number or it hasn't been done other ways I just want to find a way to make my car like that.


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The AUS car was AWD numbers, the Germany car was FWD numbers.

I know company's here in the states that would be more than willing to tune for higher fuel pressure and push the limits. We just need to see the demand.

[seal66]

With E85 you are going to want to upgrade the in-tank pump as well. Are you sure that its rail pressure that you are running out of and not in tank pump?

If you have enough in-tank fuel pump, then getting the Performance Rail Valve in a custom setting has worked fantastic for many different people. If you are running a 155 now and have a tuner that is able to tune for higher pressure, I would get a 170 BAR PRV. This should give you an additional 12 to 15% fuel to work with. Straight E85 on our pump hey? Are you running additional lubricant in the fuel?

Oh Ya I run a modified ttrs pump that is good for more than I am putting out.

I run straight e85 no additives or meth at all.

I have a very good tuner. I'll hit him up about it and see what's limiting me atm. Granted I am sure my turbo is maxed so I can't push my fueling further yet

[vce1232000]

S3 injectors are the go to, and they are surprisingly cheap at $240 a set.

$240.00 a set .........lol

[hpfpupgrade]

Oh Ya I run a modified ttrs pump that is good for more than I am putting out.

I run straight e85 no additives or meth at all.

I have a very good tuner. I'll hit him up about it and see what's limiting me atm. Granted I am sure my turbo is maxed so I can't push my fueling further yet

I am going to be honest, I am surprised that the HPFP has lasted this long on E85. E85 has very lubricating qualities, and traditionally the HPFP's start to wear and eventually have erratic pressure issues. What ever you are doing, keep doing it.

A custom PRV will work fantastic in your set up! Let me know what the tuner has to say.

Thanks,

John

[hpfpupgrade]

$240.00 a set .........lol

I thought that was wrong also. I don't think I can buy two S3 injectors for that much at cost, LOL.