Monty’s Single Turbo -> Back to Twins (Compound)

[Monty23]

Index:

01/08/2013 (PG 05) – STK First Start https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8326431
02/02/2013 (PG 07) – STK vs. Turbo Miata https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8408878
02/11/2013 (PG 08) – HPX MAF Wiring and 4 Bar MAP P/N https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8437743
04/14/2013 (PG 11) – 034 billet diff brace and STK launch! https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8641927
04/25/2013 (PG 12) – AEM Meth Kit https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8677885
05/02/2013 (PG 13) – STK vs. PJK04 https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8699829
05/06/2013 (PG 14) – ATCO Dragway https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8710014
05/10/2013 (PG 14) – First broken flex pipe https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8723811
06/06/2013 (PG 16) – PT5858 vs PT6262 comparison https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post8797636
12/30/2013 (PG 19) – Single pump fuel system upgrade + built head install https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post9337608
01/30/2014 (PG 21) – TR10 intercooler and 3inch IC piping https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post9426246
04/17/2014 (PG 22) – Atco pump gas/meth – 11.799 @ 124 mph https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post9670124
04/26/2014 (PG 25) – RT Tuning Dyno Day – 671 whp / 604 wtq – single bosch 044 https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post9699570
05/12/2014 (PG 26) – Second Bosch 044 pump (external with pickup tube) https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post9746177
06/03/2014 (PG 27) – S4 Racewars https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post9803418
06/20/2014 (PG 27) – 01E Rebuild https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post9850824
11/27/2014 (PG 29) – “Gauged” Cluster upgraded – one of my favorite mods!!! https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post10290699
02/02/2015 (PG 30) – Multiple Cutch Failures https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post10456276
03/26/2015 (PG 33) – Clutch Stop https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post10602791
04/12/2015 (PG 33) – Vibrant E-VAC Scavenger Kit – didn’t work… https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post10651287/
05/06/2015 (PG 34) – Twin exhaust tips https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post10716803
09/04/2015 (PG 35) – Blow thru flow conditioner https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11019455
09/22/2015 (PG 35) – Back to Draw thru MAF with flow conditioner https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11062654
01/22/2016 (PG 36) – 2nd Flex pipe failure https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11346042
02/18/2016 (PG 37) – Upgraded up pipe with turbo flex bellows and brace https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11411434
03/08/2016 (PG 38) – Oil Pressure data log with graph https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11460348
04/06/2016 (PG 39) – Custom Fuel HAT and SS PTFE fuel line https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11529792
04/25/2016 (PG 39) – 2.33 FATS https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11578334
05/03/2016 (PG 39) – STK vs. B8 Stage 2 race gas (e30 mix) https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11597676
05/09/2016 (PG 39) – PSI Proformance Dyno Day – 711 whp https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11610017
05/16/2016 (PG 39) – STK vs. 2015 GSXR 750 https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11624807
07/06/2016 (PG 40) – 3.5” VAREX valved muffler install https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11735182
07/11/2016 (PG 40) – Fuel System Upgrade Parts List and Diagram https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11746680
10/17/2016 (PG 40) – 2.0 Coil Conversion Troubleshooting/Solution https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11953060
04/28/2017 (PG 41) – Exhaust Back Pressure Log/Graph https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post12383291
05/30/2017 (PG 42) – 034 up pipe fixed for the 3rd time – weld crack https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post12450966
11/12/2017 (PG 43) – Freshly built 2.8 heads installed https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post12785477
05/10/2019 (PG 44) – ATCO dragway – E85 11.59 @ 130.75 mph https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post13664608
03/18/2020 (PG 44) – CM850 clutch install https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14061307
03/24/2021 (PG 45) – Aftermarket close ratio 1-2 gearset install – failed after 500mi https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14474405
04/23/2021 (PG 45) – ATI Crank Pulley https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14502470
09/20/2021 (PG 45) – H&R coilovers replaced with BC Racing https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14616528
03/29/2022 (PG 46) – Welded Main Web in Block – 1000whp build https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14732626
06/13/2022 (PG 46) – Secondary Firewall Removal + Tubular Manifold Mockup https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14773811
06/27/2022 (PG 46) – Compound hot side creation – Teaching myself TIG Welding https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14781125
09/18/2022 (PG 47) – Compound intercooler piping https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14823816
10/25/2022 (PG 47) - Compound B5 S4 2.7T is running https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14841913
01/29/2023 (PG48) - Kenne Bell BAP installed https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14887430


Original 1st post below:

Hi everyone,

I am going to document my build as best I can (WITH LOTS OF PICTURES) since I am sure there are many people that are curious how my setup is going to perform. I also will update with videos of the car once I get her running. I also plan to hit the track and see what kinds of ¼ times I can throw down.

Mods before 034 STK:
Stock downpipes w/gutted pre-cats
UUC VM3 catback
Metal diverters
K/N filter
Jfonz stage 2 tune
H/R street coilovers
Podi mechanical boost gauge
Iforged Flux 2-piece wheels
Everything else stock

On my previous GIAC 93 pump stage 2 tune (w/stock DPs) that I was having over boost/throttle cut issues with (due to failing egts), I put down 295wtq, 265whp on AWE’s dyno.

Upgrade list:
- Precision PT5858 Ball Bearing Turbo, .64AR turbine housing
- Precision 8” x 24” x 3.5” intercooler, rated at 600hp
- 2.5” intercooler piping
- Tial MVR 44mm wastegate
- Tial QR recirc valve, 10psi spring
- 2.8L V6 exhaust manifolds – ceramic coated
- 034 up pipe/downpipe – ceramic coated
- Custom 3.5” 304 SS exhaust, 1 or 2 – 3.5” magnaflow mufflers (rear is removable via V-band)
- Southbend stage 3 drag clutch kit, Fidanza LWFW
- Custom 90mm intake/MAF assembly, OEM Hitachi MAF
- EV14 72lb injectors
- Bosch 044 fuel pump
- Zeitronix wideband/5.0 Bar MAP/EGT multi-gauge and data logging setup
- 034 Motorsport race engine mounts
- 034 Street density transmission mounts
- 034 billet diff carrier and street diff mounts
- USP metal clutch slave w/braided line
- MK3 golf coolant tank
- Custom catch can setup
- DM forged rods, stock pistons/heads/intake manifold/TB for now

Onto the Pictures:








And it was my son's 4th birthday on Friday so he has his birthday hat on :)


Success!


The motor is currently waiting for me to install rods, but that will have to wait till Tuesday after Christmas.... Plan is to have the first start by next weekend! And turns out I need two of the smaller oil pan turbo drain fittings, so Max will need to swap out my larger fitting for a smaller one. Hopefully that doesn't delay me too much....

[coolgraymemo]

Those wheels are weird, in a good way. I like them!

Good luck with the build.

[Rdp616]

I like those wheels too. They look even better since you refinished them. If you EVER sell them i'll take them!

[S4 00 2.7]

I look fwd to your updates.

[jibberjive]

Nice, tracking the build.

[micahmr2]

So where about's "near philly" are you.

[britishturbo]

Looking god so far an, I look forward to meeting up when it's done!

[Monty23]

I like those wheels too. They look even better since you refinished them. If you EVER sell them i'll take them!

Thanks, the wheels were actually for sale before I but tires on them, but I am keeping them now.

Looking god so far an, I look forward to meeting up when it's done!

Same here! I might need some help setting up a blow through setup too

[Austonwerner4]

Hey I need a small one. I have an extra large one.

[Monty23]

Hey I need a small one. I have an extra large one.

ME TOO!!! I should have just ordered another set, the fittings are only $40. I am such a procrastinator.....

[un1ko]

Can't wait to see updates and pics! It seems single turbo kits are becoming the thing now.

[Austonwerner4]

ME TOO!!! I should have just ordered another set, the fittings are only $40. I am such a procrastinator.....

Didn't you say you had 2 small ones.

[Monty23]

Didn't you say you had 2 small ones.

Whoops, i meant to say i "need" two of the small fittings... I got one small and one large from Max originally.

[UkuRiSh]

Subscribe !!!!

[03redgti]

Subscribe !!!!

watching!

[GWerks]

Heck yes!!!

[Austonwerner4]

Whoops, i meant to say i "need" two of the small fittings... I got one small and one large from Max originally.

Yeah same here. I need another small. But they're on back order like crazy I guess.

[Monty23]

Tomorrow, these are going in.

[Monty23]

Didn't have to remove the oil pump




Now I have to spend some time with the family. Hopefully I can get the new rods installed and the motor all back together later tonight.

[usmc.S4]

Jealous

[britishturbo]

Sweet!

[Ribbie]

So wish I had the money to do this right now.

Are you spending time with the family of rods and pistons?

Looking forward to the DETAILS of the build/assembly.

[AudiHolicS4]

Looks great man hopefully all goes well and you can meet your deadline

[Monty23]

Who has a tip for getting the wrist pin clip back in the piston???????

These things are killing me, I been on my first one for about 30 minutes

[Wide-66]

Start the open end into the groove first use a small pick to get it the rest of the way in

[Monty23]

^Thank you!

Sucess! Thanks youtube and the creator (jazzpur) of this video (skip to 4:26 for explanation of wrist pin clip reinstall):

[jibberjive]

Yeah same here. I need another small. But they're on back order like crazy I guess.

Has anyone who bought these actually had a 'big' size oil adapter that fit their oilpan?

^Thank you!

Sucess! Thanks youtube and the creator (jazzpur) of this video (skip to 4:26 for explanation of wrist pin clip reinstall):

I take it you didn't check all of the links in my engine build document before you started, eh

[britishturbo]

Has anyone who bought these actually had a 'big' size oil adapter that fit their oilpan?

I just ordered 2 (Not from 034) and they were both the same size and both worked out of the box.

[034Motorsport]

Has anyone who bought these actually had a 'big' size oil adapter that fit their oilpan?

Contrary to what you believe Mike, we have had lots of people with different sizes.

To make matters even worse, we are finishing up our shop 5858 STK build, which require 2x of the large oil pan adapters. This was the first time we ever have seen two large.

People want to guess, we can guess, and we have seen equal amounts of Small/Small and Small/Large. The forum is a very small sample. The only way to tell is to remove your return lines, which is very easy and avoids you having to ship stuff back.

[britishturbo]

I just ordered 2 (Not from 034) and they were both the same size and both worked out of the box.

Contrary to what you believe Mike, we have had lots of people with different sizes.

To make matters even worse, we are finishing up our shop 5858 STK build, which require 2x of the large oil pan adapters. This was the first time we ever have seen two large.

People want to guess, we can guess, and we have seen equal amounts of Small/Small and Small/Large. The forum is a very small sample. The only way to tell is to remove your return lines, which is very easy and avoids you having to ship stuff back.

I guess I need to change my statement... I DID order mine from 034 Hahaha
Not only that but my invoice shows 1 large and 1 small... I don't remember ordering 2 different sizes....
I also blindly installed them on the car and I guess I got them right first time lol

So I guess I have 1 large 1 small.


EDIT: I looked and it's the kit that I ordered, 2 x fittings. Must be 1 small 2 large by default.

[Monty23]

Just a little FYI. The wrist pin section of the stock rods weights about 40-50 grams less than the H beam rods.





Still pushing on. Had some issues with my drill and had to go out and buy a new one. But finally got the cylinders honed.


I am gaping the rings now and then these beauties go in:

[britishturbo]

Just a little FYI. The wrist pin section of the stock rods weights about 40-50 grams less than the H beam rods.





Still pushing on. Had some issues with my drill and had to go out and buy a new one. But finally got the cylinders honed.


I am gaping the rings now and then these beauties go in:

Makes me want to pull my engine back out and build it LOL

[Monty23]

Progress..........................

rod/piston assy going in...



Everyone's home, safe and sound.......



Feels good to have the oil pans back on....



I ordered my tune and should have the motor back in tomorrow!!!

[Meow]

I like where this thread is going! Cant wait to see where yours spools at, also with a lot of good s4's starting to pile up in PA we might have to have a meet down there... with track time. :)

[slow ride]

No balance work on the crank?

[britishturbo]

I like where this thread is going! Cant wait to see where yours spools at, also with a lot of good s4's starting to pile up in PA we might have to have a meet down there... with track time. :)

There's a little State College PA meet tomorrow ;-)

[034Motorsport]

No balance work on the crank?

Looks like he weighed all the rods, and with stock heads and a stock rev limit, there shouldn't be an issue. On our newest STK project car, we dropped in rods without a balance. Keep the pistons numbered and such and you'll likely be just fine. Is balancing everything better? Of course, but once you get there, you might as well go a bit further, and suddenly you've spent $10k on a motor build instead of a couple grand on some rods and bearing refresh.

PS. Props Monty for doing everything yourself.

[Monty23]

No balance work on the crank?

A rep from IE said that many customers have left the crank in a swapped rods with no ill effects.

[britishturbo]

Looks like he weighed all the rods, and with stock heads and a stock rev limit, there shouldn't be an issue. On our newest STK project car, we dropped in rods without a balance. Keep the pistons numbered and such and you'll likely be just fine. Is balancing everything better? Of course, but once you get there, you might as well go a bit further, and suddenly you've spent $10k on a motor build instead of a couple grand on some rods and bearing refresh.

A rep from IE said that many customers have left the crank in a swapped rods with no ill effects.

I agree, with stock valvetrain and close to stock rod weight you should be fine...

[slow ride]

I guess I wasn't freaking out just asking :) 33 grams is a decent amount off for sure, but if it works, it works. Seems like the weights are not that close either since the rods place their weight differently as the big end of the new rods is much lighter than the stockers (just going by the statment above about small end weights). I guess what I'm curious to is what the bob weight change would have been for a perfectly balanced stock rod motor vs the H beam rod motor. Whats the reason for numbering the pistons?

I'd be all for a setup like this in the future and I understand keeping machine work to a minimum. Guys were adding eagles(stock rings no hone) without balance work on dsm's/EVO's a lot back in the day with no apparent ill effects. Even my twin turbo z06 has budgit written all over it ;), but I need to finish that before I crack open the S4.

Good luck with the build OP and looking forward to seeing the results/power band from this setup.