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    Thanks Mike, appreciate your input. I located 2 Audi/VW "performance" shops here in SFV (1 in Burbank & 1 in Van Nuys), one of which is a dealer for APR products and the other for GIAC. I will drive to each of their shops next week and will talk to them about my short-term (220 WHP) and medium-term (250-300 WHP) goals for the car and see what they say I need in order to get there.

    A simple question: Do VW-cars have the same engine and transmission as those in our 2009 Audi A3 2.0TFSI DSG FWD cars? If they do then I need to read their forums.

    BTW, this thread has me thinking that APR has a more "safe" tune than GIAC and thus should be preferred if reliability is key:
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-vbox-thoughts
    In particular this tidbit from that thread raised my interest:
    "... APR is protecting the engine timing wise, GIAC is in the middle, and REVO is throwing caution to the wind. I imagine APR could step that up a little and stay safe as long as you're using really good gas or have ideal atmospheric conditions and temps like I have. ... GIAC cars are pulling loads of timing (even in great cold conditions, and I don't honestly believe the entire blame is on ghe bad gas theory) "

    I am new to this game and I am trying to figure out how much power I can add as safely as possible since I want to keep this car to at least 100,000 miles.

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    ^^^^^^
    You’re very welcome.

    Good idea. Plus, check to see if they have any cars for you to either drive, or get a ride in. If this is possible, make sure that you ask them about every modification that has been installed and how it has affected the performance and reliability of the car. That too will help with your decision.
    Yes, depending on the model and the year, the VW’s share the same identical engine. And, I HIGHLY recommend that you read and research the VW forums before any purchase. IMHO, the VW forums provide much more detailed and technical information on performance modifications than the Audi forums.

    Personally, I don’t believe the APR Tune is safer than GIAC. In fact, I believe the opposite. The APR Tune might be safer than REVO and a few others but, definitely not safer than GIAC…and not as safe as HPA. This is an area where HPA excels since their Tune is capable of adjusting to different gasoline octanes and blends. My A3 has performed beautifully automatically switching from 100 to 91 octane.

    Keep in mind that most Tunes are going to request the turbo to produce between 16-21 psi. That’s a lot more boost than OEM. Moreover, you are increasing the engine output by a significant amount… Your almost doubling the torque output (with K04 you’ll double the WHP output). You have to expect some additional wear to occur, especially for the turbo, but other than the ‘normal’ 2.0T issues, I don’t expect you would have any problems getting at least 100K out of your car. They are strong engines and built for boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    Personally, I don’t believe the APR Tune is safer than GIAC. In fact, I believe the opposite. The APR Tune might be safer than REVO and a few others but, definitely not safer than GIAC…and not as safe as HPA. This is an area where HPA excels since their Tune is capable of adjusting to different gasoline octanes and blends. My A3 has performed beautifully automatically switching from 100 to 91 octane.
    Sorry Mike I have to push back a little on this. Is your statement above based on a "personal feeling" or is it based on credible evidence? Unfortunately on this subject it seems like everybody in the forums has an opinion but hardly anybody has real evidence to back it up. Regarding the APR tune's safety comment, I was merely pointing to a thread where the OP was basing his statement on data he had measured himself using 3 different tunes he had access to (unfortunately he didn't have access to the HPA tune). Also, its not clear to me how safe the HPA tune is, I have not seen independent Air-Fuel ratios for it with different octane gas.

    I started looking into this just 2 weeks ago right after I bought this car and believe me it's not easy isolating the few "good nuggets" that are out there in cyberspace. As a matter of fact I still don't know with certainty who has the safest tune out there. I actually would pay a little more to get a custom tune for my car if one of the reputable tuners offered it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    Today I decided to 'scope' the intake manifold of my A3 to check for carbon build-up.

    I admit, I'm a little spooked. A close friend of mine has an '09 GTI 2.0T with 60K miles that had a massive build-up of carbon in the intake manifold, on the valves, and in the cylinder head. The VW dealership replaced quite a few different parts before they decided to 'scope' the intake and check for build-up. When they did, they found what would be equivalant to a softball size amount of carbon in his engine. Since the carbon build-up has been removed, his car is running great, like it did when it was new!

    I personally don't want to start modifying the 2.0T until I can be reasonably certain that I'm not going to run into trouble down-the-road. I know the previous owner completed all the scheduled maintainance for my A3. However, what I don't know is how the car was driven and if he/she used premium brand fuels and/or, performed any additional maintainance/oil changes to help prevent the dreadful carbon build-up.

    Anyway, here is the process and what I found in my engine:

    First, I located the IAT sensor.

    Another picture illustrating carbon build-up in the intake manifold and on the valves.


    Well, my 2.0T does have 'some' carbon build-up in the intake manifold and cylinder heads but, it isn't as severe as other cars I've seen. And since the carbon build-up in my engine hasn't really hurt the gas mileage or set off any CEL's I think it may be ready for some modifications. However, I wish there were easier ways to clean and prevent the mess...

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    I'm a 3.2 guy so I don't have to worry about the intake build-up. I'm curious though why I never seen any of you 2.0T guys install or even talk about installing catch cans since they are supposed to alleviate the issue.

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    ^^^^^
    I've researched and come to the conclusion that the aftermarket catch cans don't work as well as they are supposed to. Most guys that have installed them continue to have carbon build-up issues.

    Water/Meth injection has been the only item that has proven to 'help' with carbon build-up. And, only if is a 'Direct-Injection' setup.

    I've thought about trying a catch-can myself but, they are a lot of money if there is no improvement to be had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    ^^^^^
    I've researched and come to the conclusion that the aftermarket catch cans don't work as well as they are supposed to. Most guys that have installed them continue to have carbon build-up issues.

    Water/Meth injection has been the only item that has proven to 'help' with carbon build-up. And, only if is a 'Direct-Injection' setup.

    I've thought about trying a catch-can myself but, they are a lot of money if there is no improvement to be had.

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    X2 catch cans don't really help. Water meth helps but I feel like that could lead to a whole new set of problems.
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    ^^^^
    It can, for sure. However, I've ran W/M on a couple of my previous vehicles with great success. The secret, my secret is to keep the setup really simple.

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    Ok, I took advantage of the APR sale today and got flashed with Stage 1. (I was trying to schedule dyno time before the flash but I couldn't get a dyno appointment before my flash appointment.) After getting flashed I asked about the APR K04 deal and was quoted $3700 for (1) K04 kit, (2) S/W, (3) Downpipe, and (4) Installation. Was told that even without the upgraded intercooler or the Carbonio intake I should be able to get to the 300 WHP mark with the above setup.

    On the way back home I ran it pretty hard. S-mode is beast now even D-mode is much more fun. But traction is big problem from a stop although not so much from a roll. I concur, this is how this car should have come from the factory. Best $600 ever spent. The ability to easily switch maps without screwing with the OBD port was a big plus for me. I plan to drive this car for a few weeks to see if stage-1 is enough for "my needs" or if I should go forward and spend the additional ~$4K for the K04 setup. If I go for that I will post a review here.

    On another topic, the car came with somewhat "thin" 225-45-17 tires and I am also not too crazy about the stock rims. I would like to upgrade wheels and tires and would like to run 245-45-18s to get better traction as well as a more buffed look. Would they fit with stock suspension or would 245-35-18s be the better choice? (I decided to keep the stock suspension even though I agree that the tire-to-fender gaps are a little wider than they should be in this car.)
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    ^^^^
    Very cool. Congratulations!

    I’m not surprised that you are enjoying the Stage 1 performance. It would be difficult not to. Furthermore, you know I agree...you just can’t do any better for $600.

    Take your time. K04 is a large step. Absorb as much enjoyment and experience with the Stage 1 before taking the leap towards K04 (though, that is always my temptation).

    Traction, unfortunately, will be an issue and continue to be an issue in the future. Larger wheels and better tires will definitely help. I don’t know if they will solve your traction issues entirely but, they will help. I don’t have the best tires but, with the HPA Tuning, my A3 from a roll, on 18’s will spin the tires even in 2nd gear! I’ll obviously be upgrading my tires in the future especially as I start spending more and more time on the track.

    I’m not sure about stock height but, I don’t think the 245 will fit. It is possible, but, I think you are going to have rubbing/clearance issues. I know you could get away with 225-40-18 front and 235-40-18 rear but, the larger tires in the rear aren’t going to help with traction issues. I recommend 225-40-18 and good rubber (this is the route I’ll be taking). However, whichever you decide, it really comes down to the wheel offset and clearance.

    That is a very reasonable quote for a K04 kit and installation.

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    Mike,

    With the rains we just had I haven't had much time to enjoy Stage-1 but from the few opportunities I had to go WOT its clear that even though Stage-1 has made the car "lighter on its feet" it is still not quite fast enough.

    FYI one of the guys at work who also owns an A3-FWD suggested to me that I should go no further than stage-2 on this car (full turboback exhaust plus software). His view was that a larger turbo setup is better suited for the quatro-cars which have better traction and that in our FWD-cars this mod will actually result in a more "unbalanced" setup. His point was that if I wanted serious power I should trade the A3 in for a quatro or look toward picking up a RWD car. He actually said that a used 335i which can be had from the mid-20's (or for a few bucks more a 2008 M3) makes more sense financially & performance-wise than spending $5-$10K on mods for serious power on our A3. Still chewing on this.

    Back to tires, would a set of 245-40-17's fit on stock suspension? I agree that better rubber is necessary but I really don't see how you can get excellent traction on this car without enlarging the tire-road contact area. There has to be a way to fit wider tires to get more grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Small_A3 View Post
    Back to tires, would a set of 245-40-17's fit on stock suspension?
    Answering my own question on this after talking on the phone with tirerack.com. For our 2009 A3 FWD they recommend one of the following two choices:
    (1) 235-45-17
    (2) 235-40-18

    Tirerack said that the 1st option (235-45-17) should provide a little more vibration isolation from road bumps which should improve DD but I am probably going to go with the 2nd option.

    In terms of which tires I found Michelin Pilot Super Sports to be very grippy from my M3 experience and will probably be my choice when the K04 kit goes on.
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    ^^^^
    I’ll be interested to learn of your results with the 235-40-18. Yep, I’ve ran the Pilot Super Sports on other vehicles and they are a great overall tire for noise and grip, though, I’ve never got great mileage out of them but, that shouldn’t be expected of a tire of that caliber.

    Keep us posted.

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    BSH & Neuspeed Inlet and Discharge Turbo Pipe Review.

    Car modifications don’t have to have a reason, or make sense. As car enthusiasts we enjoy tinkering-with and working-on our vehicles, period. Many times, our cars scream for attention and we change things, just for the sake of change. I believe it was this ‘spirit of change’ that forced me to replace the stock turbo discharge pipe with the Neuspeed Hi-Flow Turbo Discharge Conversion Pipe and the stock throttle pipe, with the BSH TSI Integrated Throttle Pipe on my 2.0T Audi A3.

    Well, honestly, that is only half the story. You see, due to my future W/M installation, I had already planned to replace the throttle inlet pipe with a pipe that is pre-drilled for W/M injectors. The BSH pipe has two pre-drilled W/M injector locations which are perfect for my future project. The Neuspeed discharge pipe was purchased because if you replace one turbo pipe, why not both. Plus, I purchased both pipes on a Group-Buy, and it is hard for any car enthusiast to pass-up on some fantastic savings on performance parts regardless if they are NEEDED, or not.

    Let’s start with the BSH TSI Integrated Throttle Pipe. As I said earlier, I purchased this pipe for the pre-drilled W/M injector locations. However, this pipe has some other cool benefits…Unlike the stock pipe, the BSH pipe features a reduction of bends that straighten turbulent air and a larger more consistent pipe diameter which should increase overall air-flow. In addition, unlike competitors pipes, the BSH pipe has a Diverter Valve relocation port which, if utilized, moves the DV from the turbo area to the intake pipe resulting in lower Intake Air Temperatures and allows for easier, more accessible servicing of the DV (I don’t know if I will relocate the DV, but, it is cool to have that option if I choose to do that in the future).

    The BSH pipe was simple, straight-forward, and easy to install. I started by removing the two bolts that hold the stock inlet pipe in place. Then, I loosened and removed the clamps on the rubber hose connecting the pipe to the throttle body, and on the hose to the intercooler outlet. After some pushing, pulling, and swearing the stock pipe came out.

    Here is a picture illustrating the difference between the stock pipe and the BSH pipe:



    Once removed, I swapped over the IAT sensor, slipped-on the new silicone hose (with a good amount of dielectric grease to make things more manageable and to make the positioning the pipe easier) and started to maneuver the new pipe into place. I found it best to leave all the clamps loose until the BSH pipe is perfectly aligned before tightening anything. This way, I was able to move the pipe around to check for clearance and proper alignment to make it fit right the first time. Do it once, do it right. My install progressed smoothly, but I always have to make some kind of mistake somewhere along the way. After I tightened everything down and the pipe was positioned properly, I went to reinstall the IAT sensor connector, but I found that the connector could not reach the sensor. Upon further investigation I realized that I had installed the sensor backwards. I had to remove it, turn it around, and reinstall it. Luckily, I was able to do this without removing the BSH pipe.

    Here is a picture of the BSH pipe installed (unfortunately, there really isn’t anything to see…):



    With the BSH pipe in place, I moved on to the Neuspeed Hi-Flow Turbo Discharge pipe.

    The Neuspeed discharge pipe is much larger than the stock ‘pancake’ pipe that it replaces. The increase in pipe diameter and shape, in addition to the redesigned billet aluminum turbo discharge adapter is said to vastly improve air-flow for ‘Tuned’ 2.0T engines reducing turbo lag, improving turbo response, and increasing horsepower. Basically, Neuspeed is saying all the things that we enthusiasts want to hear to make us buy their product. Their claims are music to our ears. Well, since I bought it, I’m a sheep (though, I don’t know if I am ripe for slaughter…yet).

    I started this project by removing the front passenger side wheel/tire assembly and the fender liner to allow for easy access to the stock turbo discharge pipe. With all the obstructions out of the way, disengaging the clamps and removing the bolts and pulling-out the stock pipe took only minutes. Super easy. But, I did take extra care so the turbo discharge pipe seal didn’t rip, or tear when the pipe was removed. This was important because Neuspeed requires you to reinstall the turbo discharge seal to their supplied adapter. Plus, you are also required to reinstall the OEM bracket bolts from the stock pipe, to theirs. My attempts were successful. Here is a picture comparing the two pipes:



    The Neuspeed adapter with the attached silicone hose (and clamps) installs first. The only thing that I was careful about at this point was making sure that the adapter locked into place and mated perfectly with the turbo outlet. I had no problems. The Neuspeed pipe went in next. I aligned it with the mounting bolt locations and locked it into place with the intercooler inlet hose and then tightened everything down. Perfect! No problems, no issues. Here is a picture of it installed:



    With both pipes in place, I started the engine to check for any issues with my work before I put everything back together. My A3 started up just fine but, it wasn’t idling properly and I was beginning to think I did something seriously wrong when I found that I hadn’t reconnected the throttle body connector. Whoops! I shut the car off, put the connector back on, started the car and it was perfect! What a relief!

    It was now time to get the car on the ground and on the road.

    What can I say? I can’t tell any difference in performance with the pipes installed. The butt-dyno says nothing. I didn’t notice any improvements in turbo response, throttle response, and I can’t feel any increase in power. Unfortunately, unlike my other reviews, I don’t have a dyno sheet to share, compare, or evaluate my findings (my next dyno will be with the W/M injection installed). Now, I’m not saying that the pipes ‘didn’t’ improve performance. They may have. I simply can’t sense, or feel it. My A3 still shreds the tires through first and second gear and takes off like a rocket on the highway. It immediately and consistently responds to my throttle inputs. And, it continues to rewards me with excellent MPG. With the new pipes installed, what’s to complain about? Not much.

    Look, I don’t know if these pipes are a great ‘bang-for-the-buck’ or ultimately ‘worth’ the money. But, I felt that the BSH pipe was necessary for my W/M installation and I like the fact that if I want to do the DV relocation, I can. Moreover, the Neuspeed discharge pipe is a quality part that I feel better about having the on the car, than not. In the end, I’m thinking that just for the ‘sake of change’, they are both worth the money.

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    Mike,

    Great, detailed thread!

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    Thanks Guys!

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    This thread needs a gt30r

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    ^^^^
    I don't know about a GT30R but, a K04 is likely. :)

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    Looking good!

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    ^^^^
    Thanks!

    More to come...

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    Woooow very informational thread. so awesome. definately saving this thread. Started saving for my suspension but, Im reconsidering and might just look for that HPA dsg tune. It's not annoying but it's annoying. lol good stuff!
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    ^^^^
    Thank you!

    The HPA DSG Tune is definitely worth it! It cures all those little annoyances and improves the shift speed and the entire DSG experience.

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    I still...have not installed the W/M system. I started but, haven't finished.
    I know that when the W/M kit is finally installed that it will likely set-off some codes and require some resets and adjustments. In preparation for this, I purchased the HPA VAD system since I am running their ECU and DSG software instead of the popular VAG COM setup. This proved to be a mistake since I haven't been able to get an ancient Palm devise to communicate with my PC. I'm terrible with computers. So there is still hope. But, until I can get a trusty device functioning to monitor my engines vitals, I'm not going to install the kit.

    Other than that, things are great with the car. The only thing I have done recently is 'debage' the rear liftgate and I really like the clean look. I'll post some pictures soon. The engine is running stronger than ever and the DSG is performing flawlessly. I still couldn't be happier. Well, perhaps with the W/M, I would be. :D

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    Took a couple pics of the ‘Badgeless’ hatch…





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    Nice build thread! Lots of good information for the Audi community, even of it is for a different model. It's nice to have evidence of what mods can produce different results. It's good to know that the ECU will adjust to different octane fuels and produce more power without switching files. I am going to try some 100 octane fuel the next time I go to sac raceway.

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    That debadged look is so nice!

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    ^^^^
    Agreed, Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinkferta View Post
    It's good to know that the ECU will adjust to different octane fuels and produce more power without switching files. I am going to try some 100 octane fuel the next time I go to sac raceway.
    The ECU has the ability to adjust for different octane fuels, BUT, the Tune itself needs to have specific maps to automatically recognize the 100 octane. If your has the maps, you'll see an improvement in power with 100 octane.

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    Hopefully it should adapt. I was told by STaSIS that it would as well. But now you have the proof that the tune will readjust and add some pretty good power for those track days.

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    ^^^^
    That's good to know. The Neuspeed Tune is also said to adjust to different octane fuels.

    It's true, I'd rather be driving with 100 octane and it is great on the track. You can definitely feel the difference.

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    I'm considering exhaust...

    I don't want anything too LOUD and I wish to keep my A3's appearance relatively stock.

    What do you guys recommend? Milltek?

    Mike
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    Mike,
    Car looks great! Have you considered adding some wheel spacers? I know after I installed sport springs the track of the wheels becomes more noticeable. With that said I decided to add 10mm to the back which IMO gave it a more finished look.

    I'm not sure how I missed your thread before now, I definitely would've chimed in. To comment on your earlier post regarding responses, I have to agree Audizine isn't as active as other auto-blogs that I've been on.
    I've come to the conclusion that, [and I maybe wrong] those that drive Audi's are less likely to work on/modify their cars. I also own an older Porsche and there's a lot of traffic on those blogs. I enjoy working on cars.
    [over 25 years now] so I'm definitely a DIY'er.

    BTW, here I thought I had the only titanium A3 in T.O., I guess not. Hope to see your car around town one of these days...
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    to add...

    From what I've read replacing the down-pipe provides a nice bump in power. And, installing a cat-back system only provides a marginal gain.
    I've checked out a few down-pipes and most include a performance cat which is an illegal mod here in CA.
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    Very nice info your putting up . Keep up the good work

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    Looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennsprt805 View Post
    Mike,
    Car looks great! Have you considered adding some wheel spacers? I know after I installed sport springs the track of the wheels becomes more noticeable. With that said I decided to add 10mm to the back which IMO gave it a more finished look.

    I'm not sure how I missed your thread before now, I definitely would've chimed in. To comment on your earlier post regarding responses, I have to agree Audizine isn't as active as other auto-blogs that I've been on.
    I've come to the conclusion that, [and I maybe wrong] those that drive Audi's are less likely to work on/modify their cars. I also own an older Porsche and there's a lot of traffic on those blogs. I enjoy working on cars.
    [over 25 years now] so I'm definitely a DIY'er.

    BTW, here I thought I had the only titanium A3 in T.O., I guess not. Hope to see your car around town one of these days...
    Thanks!

    No, I hadn't considered spacers... I'll look into them. Sounds good.

    Likewise, hopefully I'll see you around town!

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennsprt805 View Post
    to add...

    From what I've read replacing the down-pipe provides a nice bump in power. And, installing a cat-back system only provides a marginal gain.
    I've checked out a few down-pipes and most include a performance cat which is an illegal mod here in CA.
    Many folks have suggested going with the DP and stock exhaust, or the full catback. However, like you said, the DP's are illegal here, I'm going to have to think about it.

    I think I still have a couple years before the car needs to be smogged though, so that might aid my decision...

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLEANA3 View Post
    Very nice info your putting up . Keep up the good work
    Thanks and will do! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8PA3_EuroChick View Post
    Looks great!
    Thank you!

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    Lookin sharp! Keep up the goodwork...
    And gimmie that rear Valence!! haha So much nicer than pre face lift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rdrcr View Post
    I'm considering exhaust...

    I don't want anything too LOUD and I wish to keep my A3's appearance relatively stock.

    What do you guys recommend? Milltek?

    Mike
    Been a while since I checked this thread ... car looks good Mike.

    Yesterday I took advantage of the APR sale and ordered the APR downpipe so I will be upgrading to Stage 2 soon. I decided to skip the cat back exhaust since I like the car ultra quiet (I don't mind the stock exhaust).

    I was searching for a good cold air intake and it looks like the best one appears to be the VWR and I am seriously thinking of getting it installed when I go stage 2. Its a little more expensive than the Carbonio but people say its worth it (VW Racing claims 9% increase in HP with this CAI alone). I found it here:

    http://www.ecodetuning.com/shop/cart..._detail&p=2083

    I noticed some people call Downpipe + CAI + ECU Flash "Stage 2+" but that's not important as long as you feel a difference in comparison to Stage 1. I am hoping after this upgrade my turbo spool times will drop significantly and will enjoy improved throttle response. After I get the upgrade I will make sure to stop by this thread and give feedback.

    Good luck on selecting a new exhaust.

    ... regarding the better flowing HFC DP all I can tell you is that I am keeping my OEM catted DP for obvious reasons. Remember that you only live once and 2 years is a long long time from now.
    Last edited by Small_A3; 10-12-2013 at 04:15 PM.
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