REVO makes huge mistake by developing a K04 kit for the 2.0T

[ericpaulyoung]

REVO unwittingly developed a new K04 kit for the 2.0T platform without the understanding that this turbo sucks really badly. Is there a way that some of the AZ guys that know the truth about the K04 turbo can contact poor REVO and inform them of their horrible mistake and waste of effort? Come on guys, we need to help them before they spend too much time machining these god awful turbos.

http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php...news&id_nws=82

- Eric

[Hugh@EuropaParts]

REVO unwittingly developed a new K04 kit for the 2.0T platform without the understanding that this turbo sucks really badly. Is there a way that some of the AZ guys that know the truth about the K04 turbo can contact poor REVO and inform them of their horrible mistake and waste of effort? Come on guys, we need to help them before they spend too much time machining these god awful turbos.

http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php...news&id_nws=82

- Eric

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[ericpaulyoung]

Fixed link.

Don't forget to read my post with LOTS of sarcasm; I love the K04.
- Eric

[ericpaulyoung]

Where is all the outrage? I am surprised that there are not more concerned AZ citizens willing to help out REVO.

- Eric

[CorneliusRox]

thread fail!

[DRAKLORE]

your just pissed because the revo KO4 wil put out more power than the APR KO4 LMAO!!!

[jimrobbington]

your just pissed because the revo KO4 wil put out more power than the APR KO4 LMAO!!!

Lol!

JR

[ericpaulyoung]

Just saying ;-) And so the story goes, the young and bewildered AZ members slowly realize the value and potential of the little snail that could, and BAMB all the sudden the little snail is acceptable... To be consistent, I am simply asking that either:
1. All the haters have to email REVO and tell them they don't know what a waste of time they are getting into, or
2. Apologize to us enlightened friends of the K04

Come on, that ain't so hard a pill to swallow ;)

- Eric

[TFSI]

Isn't this for transverse motors?

"Revo Technik is proud to announce the release of our K04 turbocharger system for the transverse 2.0TSi engine as found in Volkswagen, Audi, SEAT and ŠKODA vehicles."

[Tranzlogic]

I heard turbo upgrades makes your car slooooooow. ;)

[drumnjuny]

hahaha this again?

[Charles.waite]

Ugh Revo's website sucks. Honestly I'm surprised its taken them this long to produce a K04 tune. That was like the first thing any tuner did for the B6 platform...

[ericpaulyoung]

You can take our land, but you cannot take our FREEEEDOM to keep debating this topic.

The BT guys are just sad that they all turned out wrong and the K04 is a great turbo ;-) Now which one of you are going to be man enough to own up to the mistake and say it? hmmm?

- Eric

[Charles.waite]

I don't see any numbers.... *Ducks and runs*

[mr shickadance]

first of all,


FUCK THE KO4, it is the worst most garbage turbo i have ever come across, i can;t believe how stupid some developers can truly be, everyone knows that a gt30 and a gt35 will easily out perform this shitty turbo. this is the exact type of lazy stupid "plug and play" design that is killing this community. i'm not even going to go into how many rods this thing is going to bend but i can imagine it's 7.

the only reason why developers are not making huge EFR setups is because tihs whole platform is a bunch of a vagina's




there....are you happy now?

[FraggyA4]

[ericpaulyoung]

first of all,


FUCK THE KO4, it is the worst most garbage turbo i have ever come across, i can;t believe how stupid some developers can truly be, everyone knows that a gt30 and a gt35 will easily out perform this shitty turbo. this is the exact type of lazy stupid "plug and play" design that is killing this community. i'm not even going to go into how many rods this thing is going to bend but i can imagine it's 7.

the only reason why developers are not making huge EFR setups is because tihs whole platform is a bunch of a vagina's




there....are you happy now?

Yup ;-) Now this is what I have become accustomed to?
- Eric

[CorneliusRox]

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vagina's

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[ericpaulyoung]

Virginia's

[Hugh@EuropaParts]

Virginia's

[mr shickadance]

Yup ;-) Now this is what I have become accustomed to?
- Eric

glad i can help

[DRAKLORE]

my personal heros


what will be the funniest is the price difference betweeen the REVO KO4 and APR...

and really.. If your hell bent on getting a KO4 go ahead and get it We all are well aware of the differences in turbo options for this platform, Im not about to make a Pro\Con chart for all the turbos, but there is obviously a market for the slightly larger than stock, KO4

[ericpaulyoung]

I heard it is a small state! But like the rest of the country, the size of your state varies, how you enjoy it is totally up to you!
- Eric

[jibatnes]

Isn't this for transverse motors?

"Revo Technik is proud to announce the release of our K04 turbocharger system for the transverse 2.0TSi engine as found in Volkswagen, Audi, SEAT and ŠKODA vehicles."

This is a good point. None of this affects our cars.
Have emailed Revo about making a K04 or stage 3 ECU program for our cars since im already at stage 2+ and wanna go with the KO-R.
They responded that they dont have any solutions for our longitude engines besides ECU flash up til stage 2+ yet.

[ABreeden]

first of all,


FUCK THE KO4, it is the worst most garbage turbo i have ever come across, i can;t believe how stupid some developers can truly be, everyone knows that a gt30 and a gt35 will easily out perform this shitty turbo. this is the exact type of lazy stupid "plug and play" design that is killing this community. i'm not even going to go into how many rods this thing is going to bend but i can imagine it's 7.

the only reason why developers are not making huge EFR setups is because tihs whole platform is a bunch of a vagina's




there....are you happy now?

[ericpaulyoung]

This is a good point. None of this affects our cars.
Have emailed Revo about making a K04 or stage 3 ECU program for our cars since im already at stage 2+ and wanna go with the KO-R.
They responded that they dont have any solutions for our longitude engines besides ECU flash up til stage 2+ yet.

Really what you should understand is that they don't "offer" a full kit for our cars. The transverse S3 turbo sits on our longitudinal 2.0T just fine with a custom right side motor mount, which is not any more difficult than installing your DV in a different location. In short, all the K04 kits for the transverse motor are just fine for the longitudinal platform, and there are actually quite a few guys out there running them. The KOR is a K04 stuffed into a K03 body, but they use the upgraded wheel which flows better than the OEM K04 (i.e., 988 version vs. the 907 version). And the KOR is a great turbo! Which is to say, the 988 K04 is a great turbo. Just comes down to what body you want to run the 988 K04 blades in. The KOR has a advantage of fitting the longitudinal platform without any modifications, the 988 with the Borg Warner K04 body requires a different motor mount ($145 from 034) and a different exhaust flange (I had a totally new high flow cat made with the S3 flange, $345 from 034). So the total difference is about $500 cheaper to stuff the KOR in if you get your K04 from APR ($2150 or $1950 during the spring/fall sales) and the 988 is actually the same price or slightly cheaper than the KOR if you don't want the machined body from APR or REVO ($1299 from Full Race for the 988 K04). So it is like everything else on our cars, the approach is special for each car, and the little differences is what makes the car YOURS vs some other guy's down the block.

- Eric

[ericpaulyoung]

Actually the opposite, it just proves my point and makes me happy ;)
- Eric

[DRAKLORE]

This is a good point. None of this affects our cars.
Have emailed Revo about making a K04 or stage 3 ECU program for our cars since im already at stage 2+ and wanna go with the KO-R.
They responded that they dont have any solutions for our longitude engines besides ECU flash up til stage 2+ yet.

Shhhhh... Eric is almost at four rings...

Lol

[ericpaulyoung]

Shhhhh... Eric is almost at four rings...

Lol

:)

[NorcalPB]

Where is the cheapest place to find the 988?

[ericpaulyoung]

Full Race for $1299, but they don't have it in stock, and the 988 is specifically made for the aftermarket in the UK. So... who knows how long it takes to order. CTS has them in stock, but I think they are a little more expensive. REVO uses the 988 in their TSI upgrade that I mentioned earlier, and as I said earlier, it doesn't matter if it is made for the TSI or the transverse platform, they are all the same; it is just what is included in a given kit to fit it that changes. I don't know how much the REVO version is. You can find them all day long for about that price, but if you want them machined for direct fit of the diverter valve on the case like the KOR or K03, you are limited to APR or REVO (yes, they both use the exact same turbo for their TSI upgrade, and it may surprise many of you, but they both do the exact same machining modifications to the body, I wouldn't be surprised if APR sold the CNC program to REVO).

- Eric

[jibatnes]

Really what you should understand is that they don't "offer" a full kit for our cars. The transverse S3 turbo sits on our longitudinal 2.0T just fine with a custom right side motor mount, which is not any more difficult than installing your DV in a different location. In short, all the K04 kits for the transverse motor are just fine for the longitudinal platform, and there are actually quite a few guys out there running them. The KOR is a K04 stuffed into a K03 body, but they use the upgraded wheel which flows better than the OEM K04 (i.e., 988 version vs. the 907 version). And the KOR is a great turbo! Which is to say, the 988 K04 is a great turbo. Just comes down to what body you want to run the 988 K04 blades in. The KOR has a advantage of fitting the longitudinal platform without any modifications, the 988 with the Borg Warner K04 body requires a different motor mount ($145 from 034) and a different exhaust flange (I had a totally new high flow cat made with the S3 flange, $345 from 034). So the total difference is about $500 cheaper to stuff the KOR in if you get your K04 from APR ($2150 or $1950 during the spring/fall sales) and the 988 is actually the same price or slightly cheaper than the KOR if you don't want the machined body from APR or REVO ($1299 from Full Race for the 988 K04). So it is like everything else on our cars, the approach is special for each car, and the little differences is what makes the car YOURS vs some other guy's down the block.

- Eric

Ok, thought there where bigger differences than that. :) thanks for input. But when i asked REVO about the ECU flash for the K04 they said it wouldnt work with my car. Is there any difference in the ECU flash in our cars compared to say the GTI?

Shhhhh... Eric is almost at four rings...

Lol

Hehe. how many posts to get there?

[ericpaulyoung]

Ok, thought there where bigger differences than that. :) thanks for input. But when i asked REVO about the ECU flash for the K04 they said it wouldnt work with my car. Is there any difference in the ECU flash in our cars compared to say the GTI?



Hehe. how many posts to get there?

I was only talking about the hardware; I do not know the differences for the ECU programming. What I can say is this, you can 100% buy the hardware from REVO and slap an APR tune on it (or other, your choice).
- Eric

[jimrobbington]

I wouldn't be surprised if APR sold the CNC program to REVO.

- Eric

Yeah, but APR will claim it was "stolen"! Lol.

JR

[jibatnes]

I was only talking about the hardware; I do not know the differences for the ECU programming. What I can say is this, you can 100% buy the hardware from REVO and slap an APR tune on it (or other, your choice).
- Eric

Ok cool :)

My problem is that i was hoping Revo would make a ECU flash for the K04 or KO-R so i only had to upgrade my flash instead of buying a complete new one.
Revo said they where working on something, but wouldnt say anymore.

[jimrobbington]

Ok cool :)

My problem is that i was hoping Revo would make a ECU flash for the K04 or KO-R so i only had to upgrade my flash instead of buying a complete new one.
Revo said they where working on something, but wouldnt say anymore.

As much as I love REVO, afaik, they have completely given up on the b7 platform. They claimed "fueling issues needed to be resolved before any more progress could be made" years ago. I'm pretty sure we leaped that hurdle a while ago.

I don't know if John from hpfpupgrade has to literally walk in there and show them the progress, or if they would even care at this point.

I will always have my fingers crossed though.

JR

[jibatnes]

As much as I love REVO, afaik, they have completely given up on the b7 platform. They claimed "fueling issues needed to be resolved before any more progress could be made" years ago. I'm pretty sure we leaped that hurdle a while ago.

I don't know if John from hpfpupgrade has to literally walk in there and show them the progress, or if they would even care at this point.

I will always have my fingers crossed though.

JR

Agree. Im sitting on the fence atm. Hoping that either Revo will come up with something soon, or that the Maestro proves to be a success for the ones testing it out.
I really dont like the idea of ship my ECU back and fort between US and Norway to get it flashed.

My tuner here is a Revo dealer, hes going to this Revo dealer gathering thing in UK this weekend. Have told him to ask how the progress is on our cars with further development.
Will let you know how it goes.

Jon :)

[DRAKLORE]

At one point i was in direct contact with the guy over in europe who sits down
And writes revos files. He was going to adapt their existing (yes it does exist) B7 A4 GT3071 file for my Ecu. Through bad English or w/e I was told that he didn't feel comfortable adapting the file for low pressure fueling issues... At that point I told him solutions exist. He said we will see and that was the last I've heard from him :-/

After that I realized it may be some years before revo or many other tuners touch the B7 platform. There are only a few loyal ones left

I only wish I knew which two B7s have/had that Revo GT3071 tune

[jibatnes]

Hmm. Looking at their website and the application list there is a stage3 ECU option for our cars on request. Valid from 30.11.11

http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=applications

Maybe a little hope? ¨

Shane if youre interested i can get my tuner to ask if they would be willing to let him know wich B7 whos running the Revo GT3071 tune when hes of to UK this weekend.
Doesnt hurt to try. :)

[swoardrider]

At one point i was in direct contact with the guy over in europe who sits down
And writes revos files. He was going to adapt their existing (yes it does exist) B7 A4 GT3071 file for my Ecu. Through bad English or w/e I was told that he didn't feel comfortable adapting the file for low pressure fueling issues... At that point I told him solutions exist. He said we will see and that was the last I've heard from him :-/

After that I realized it may be some years before revo or many other tuners touch the B7 platform. There are only a few loyal ones left

I only wish I knew which two B7s have/had that Revo GT3071 tune

As much as I love REVO, afaik, they have completely given up on the b7 platform. They claimed "fueling issues needed to be resolved before any more progress could be made" years ago. I'm pretty sure we leaped that hurdle a while ago.

I don't know if John from hpfpupgrade has to literally walk in there and show them the progress, or if they would even care at this point.

I will always have my fingers crossed though.

JR

Isn't this for transverse motors?

"Revo Technik is proud to announce the release of our K04 turbocharger system for the transverse 2.0TSi engine as found in Volkswagen, Audi, SEAT and ŠKODA vehicles."

Transverse mount, TSI motor not FSI motor, no B7 love. This is why REVO can suck my left nut. I will never give them my hard earned money!