DIY LED Reverse Light

[Shimmy]

conclusion: ALL B8 reverse LEDs throw codes.

mine have worked flawlessly from day one.

[G_FLL]

mine have worked flawlessly from day one.

which are?...

[deAutoLED.com]

I would try reaching out to deautoled, I think they make them

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which are?...

Thank you - our 194/921 are tested to work with no errors and they are BRIGHT!!!
http://deautokey.com/product/audi-19...-rs3-many-more


Recent customer review:

Just received and installed their reverse LED's on my 15' S4. I had an old set of USP's RFB reverse LED's, so this comparison is based on those.

The deAutoLED's reverse LED's are probably 30% brighter than the USP LED's. They are also error free and plug and play. Very happy with how bright they are, another quality product from deAutoLED

USP on the left, deAutoLED on the right



USP


deAutoLED

[SleeperCar]

BACK from the dead!!!

I cant seem to find a DIY for the b8.5 LED reverse light swap. Can anyone with experience shed some light on this? i see the red housing, but what exactly am i doing there?

thanks!

[JinDIS]

If your reverse lights are on the outboard, you can remove the panel in the trunk which reveals a hollow square shaped faced bolt. Loosen it by inserting a screwdriver through the holes that run across the diameter. You should be able to loosen it by hand afterwards. Gently remove the tail light housing by prying to reveal the electrical harness that unsnaps



If the reverse light is on the inboard part of the trunk, use a screwdriver to pry off the cover that hides the inboard tail lamp housing on the trunk lid. The entire bulb mounting plate is much simpler for this one as there is only one plastic red tab that you can bend to release the entire bulb plate; no electrical harnesses to unsnap here

or at least this is the set up for my B8 although i couldn't imagine they'd change the electricals too drastically in 8.5

BACK from the dead!!!

I cant seem to find a DIY for the b8.5 LED reverse light swap. Can anyone with experience shed some light on this? i see the red housing, but what exactly am i doing there?

thanks!

[SleeperCar]

If your reverse lights are on the outboard, you can remove the panel in the trunk which reveals a hollow square shaped faced bolt. Loosen it by inserting a screwdriver through the holes that run across the diameter. You should be able to loosen it by hand afterwards. Gently remove the tail light housing by prying to reveal the electrical harness that unsnaps



If the reverse light is on the inboard part of the trunk, use a screwdriver to pry off the cover that hides the inboard tail lamp housing on the trunk lid. The entire bulb mounting plate is much simpler for this one as there is only one plastic red tab that you can bend to release the entire bulb plate; no electrical harnesses to unsnap here

or at least this is the set up for my B8 although i couldn't imagine they'd change the electricals too drastically in 8.5

thanks but they are very different actually. At the beginning of this thread the B8 has the DIY and the whole assembly is different (its inboard by the way). thanks for responding tho!

[SleeperCar]

I know people have done this.... but I guess I'm gonna have to figure it out, lack of response is a bummer lol

[shonseb]

I think the housing is held in place with 2 metric 10 bolt, but you may be able to access the bulb without removing the housing.

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[SleeperCar]

I think the housing is held in place with 2 metric 10 bolt, but you may be able to access the bulb without removing the housing.

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Thanks I'll catalogue my install this weekend

[SleeperCar]

Just want to note that I was flat out wrong, the reverse LED is definitely outboard and super easy to install lol

[deAutoLED.com]

Thanks I'll catalogue my install this weekend

Just want to note that I was flat out wrong, the reverse LED is definitely outboard and super easy to install lol

Thanks for the update.

These are going to be error free in all models we tested for Audi except the Q7:
http://deautokey.com/product/audi-b6...or-free-bright

[SDF1]

Anyone ever try these?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-X-T15-...tZbcxN&vxp=mtr

[SDF1]

That was an amazing read. Thank you.

FlashWolves 921 912 W16W T15 T10 45SMD Chipsets LED Canbus Error Free Bulbs For Backup Reverse Lights 1000 Lumens 6000k Xenon White 2 Piece
https://www.amazon.com/FlashWolves-C...azonqueryr1-20


I really like the idea of the GY6.35 bulbs but i'm not sure how i'll bend them to fit.

OR
MASTERCapsule 30W GY6.35 12V IR 1CT/5X10F
http://www.lighting.philips.com/main...102_EU/product

OR
Philips 35W 12V T4 GY6.35 Dimmable Halogen Light Bulb
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Philips-3...-Bulb/37665691

[deAutoLED.com]

Or just go with the brightest one tested :)
http://deautokey.com/product/audi-b6...or-free-bright

The GY6.35 is a terrible idea:
-dull yellow
-short lifespan
-need to modify it for what it should not be used for (not meant for reverse)
-not plug and play
-not easy to find the correct authentic one

amazon flashwolves from reviews fail quickly and if you saw the review they are not that bright for an LED

We understand you can order anything you like and we don't mean to sound defensive as we don't mind what you choose, but we want all information out there for the forum and what you are suggesting are not the highest quality or brightest you can purchase.

Honest customer review/photos of these in action - they really are this bright in person!!!!

New pics:





These LEDs definitely appear bright!

[austindgarner]

conclusion: ALL B8 reverse LEDs throw codes.

I bought the ziza led's for my 2014 a4 and they didn't have any errors. They are very bright with no flicker. The ziza lights off ecs tuning were a little pricey, but I paid a little extra so I didn't get the error. I am very happy with them. I believe they are canbus free 16w.

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[JeriQo]

I bought the ziza led's for my 2014 a4 and they didn't have any errors. They are very bright with no flicker. The ziza lights off ecs tuning were a little pricey, but I paid a little extra so I didn't get the error. I am very happy with them. I believe they are canbus free 16w.

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you have an 8.5, those do not have issues as much as the b8. i had my reverse lights coded via vagcom

[deAutoLED.com]

you have an 8.5, those do not have issues as much as the b8. i had my reverse lights coded via vagcom

Ours are 100% error free in both - no coding required to avoid any confusion.

[DownhillA4]

I have disabled the reverse light bulb error check with VAGCOM. Now running LED bulbs without any issue.

Here are the steps:
Module 46 Central Convenience > Security Access 16 > 16017
Adaption 10 > Channel 181 > Convert your decimal number to binary (for example my default number in decimal is 65535, converted to binary = 1111111111111111), then change bit 10 and 11 from 1 to 0 (my new binary value becomes 1111001111111111, which is 62463 in decimal) > Enter the new binary value > Test > Save

Thank you!

Just installed 5w 7506 LED Sylvania LED bulbs in my reverse lights and have the bulb out warning along with the passenger side bulb staying on faintly for a minute or two after the driver door is opened. Hope this fixes the bulb out warning via Vag-Com.

[deAutoLED.com]

We are held at a higher standard - if people had to plug in resistors we would not be in business for long.

100% PLUG AND PLAY: No coding, no hot resistors, no splicing into wires etc. :)

[engineered]

Just thought I'd post details of this update for others.
I hate my wife's Q5 reverse lights because they put out so little light (less light than the brake lights).

So I bought and installed these Luyed W16W LED lights. No bulb out error lights.
I chose these because they had the highest wattage at 7.5W, so hopefully enough to look like a load to the bulb out sensor (stock are 18W).
Light output is way higher (310 vs 1550 lumens). Light on the garage door is the most telling. Going by the histogram of the garage door photos they show up 264% brighter.
Photos were taken on my S8+ in pro mode to control exposure/aperture.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01LX4FMD1




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[jschrauwen]

I'm pretty much an HID guy when it came to upgrading oem lighting from halogen. For the most part I have been fairly successful when it came to upgrading headlights and fog lights.
For the past few years I've been trying to upgrade the halogen bulbs for my reverse and turn signals in my A5. And recently I even tried replacing my HID upgraded H11 fog lights to LED. The results were less then dismal and especially in the case of the fog lights. The LED's I chose for them were multi sided led's with a lumen rating off the charts in comparison to the pseudo HID lumen rating that were already in use. However, the results between my old HID fog lights and the new LED bulbs was completely horrible. The beam pattern was not cohesive, it was not focused, it was no uniform and it was not putting the light in the correct orientation. Major fail when using a multisided led in the fog lights. After watching the attached video it became clear that there theories were correct. It's not about how many led's are on the bulb or if it's multi-sided, It's all about having the source point of light on the led bulb in the exact same special relation as the oem halogen bulb. It also became apparent that that premise would be true if one wereto look at the foremost leader in automotive lighting - Philips. Look at the design of the Philips led bulbs as they apply to fog lights, reverse lights and turn signals. Their design pattern is consistent throughout all of them.
This video basically explains that theorem.





Because of that video I have refocused my efforts in finding led bulbs that conform to that theory of led placement/orientation within the bulb.
For those reasons I chose these for my H11 fog lights.




I chose these for my reverse lights;




And I chose these for my front turn signals.

[jschrauwen]

As mentioned in the video above, I too got a terrible beam pattern by switching from HID H11 to LED H11.
HID on the left and LED on the right.

[jschrauwen]

Here's probably the reason for those results above. Based on the point of origin of the emitted light in comparison to the 3, I have taken a pic of all 3.
Left - 3 sided H11 LED with off the charts lumen rating.
Centre - H11 HID
Right - OEM H11 halogen

All of the bases of these bulbs are aligned with their mounting bases to best represent their respective light emitting focal points.
As you can clearly see the 3 sided led's light emitting focal point is not consistent with that of the oem halogen or the after market HID.
The HID and Halogen are almost identical in their focal points of the light emitting relative positions and is probably the reason why the beam pattern from the HID is consistent with that of the oem halogen albeit much brighter/farther then the halogen.

[deAutoLED.com]

H11 Fogs:
http://deautokey.com/product/led-hea...ast-1800-lumen

rated higher among most popular brands:


Brighter than philips:

[jschrauwen]

Impressive lux results from deAutoLED H11's.
Pics of deAutoLED H11 fog light bulbs for comparison please?

[deAutoLED.com]

Impressive lux results from deAutoLED H11's.
Pics of deAutoLED H11 fog light bulbs for comparison please?

Yes these are no joke and why we spread the word here because many go with the popular brands like philips or sylvania not knowing ours are much brighter and shine light much further. Our yellow/white model is very close to the brightness of this kit on a GB special if interested:
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...-YELLOW-STROBE

There is a video DIY that shows how to install it in low beams - FOGS are much easier as it doesn't require the adapter but the bulb style/diodes are the same:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UOIBrDxfOc

[jschrauwen]

You referenced this chart - http://bulbfacts.com/led-kits/chart/
Could you explain what the 2 lux ratings are on each side of the beam pattern pic? Would it be the lux rating in a reflector housing where the left lux rating is low beam and the right being high beam?
For example, in the cropped pic of that chart you posted it indicates the deAutoLED bulb producing 7080 Lux giving a +340% rating but what's been omitted from that cropped pic is another rating(for that same bulb) on the other side of that deAutoled bulb pic of 5050 Lux with a rating of 42%.
What do those two lux and ratings for the same led bulb stand for?
I'm a bit confused?

[jschrauwen]

Just a few observations.

The test chart posted by deAutoled above is for an H7 LED bulb in a headlight reflector application.
The test chart also shows a comparison to the Philips H7 Ultinon also in a reflector headlight application.
And while the chipsets type used in both the deAutoled and the Philips h7 led's appear to look almost the same, their size is slightly different.

deAutoled H7 LED




Philips H7 LED




However this does not address my original query. That being H11 fog light LED's. I'm not sure why deAutoled used the test results of their H7 in a headlight application when clearly there are many aspects that one cannot apply a headlight application of a particular bulb to a fog light application. It's not a direct comparison. Nor can you apply an H7 directly to an H11.
Furthermore, the design of the deAutoled H11 LED fog light bulb is completely different then that of their H7. Not only is the design different but also the type of led chipsets used are completely different as well. COB perhaps?
This video clearly shows the deautoled H11 fog light led bulb and how it's in no way near the same as their H7. That said, the test results chart for their H7 LED cannot be used as a reference for their H11 led bulb.



A final observation.
Philips H11 LED fog light bulb.




The Philips H11 led chipsets appear almost identical to that of the deAutoled headlight H7 led chipsets.
Everything being equal, I would hazard to guess that the Philips H11 will deliver as good as if not better results as the deAutoled H7.
The chipsets used in the deautoled H11 led bulb are probably not of the same caliber/quality as that of their H7 headlight led bulb as COB led chipsets aren't as good. If they were, a test that actually reflects that would have been done by deautoled instead of trying to use a test from a different type of bulb with a different type of led chipset. It appears deautoled was comparing apples to oranges.
Am I wrong?

[deAutoLED.com]

Thanks for the questions. There is some confusion we can clear up.

We are simply giving the results our LEDs are used for: low and fog housing reflector housing. In the chart it is low beam and high beam lux. Our low beam lux was better than philips. You are looking at the high beam.

The video you posted is from over a year ago and we no longer sell those for the fogs because it had more components: larger ballast/resistors and many wanted something easier to install. This new design is almost as bright as our old design (we won't lie and say it is brighter but it is very very close). The h11/h7 are the same design and were both tested. We actually contacted the person from bulbfacts and he told us he uses our LEDs in his daily drive as it produced the most light on the road in his car which meant a lot to us that it beat out morimoto and philips which are two major brands. We focus a lot on just our LEDs and bringing the best so being recognized for it is big for us.

That bulb is better in low beam and fogs which we exclusively use them for - low beam reflector:
http://deautokey.com/product/headlig...g-vw-audi-jeep

fogs:
http://deautokey.com/product/led-hea...ast-1800-lumen


There are many designs online that are similar but are not as bright. The bulbfact chart shows this on their website. The philips are also $200. When they launched their version 1 model it was so dim and $200 that we were shocked anyone was suggesting them on the forums. But we suppose brand power came into play with that kit and why we hit the forums with real results/feedback and comparisons showing the difference. What you see online from our real customer feedback is what you will see in person. We appreciate the question for sure but want to be clear we are honest and would not sell something that is not 100%.

[mtroxel]

I have disabled the reverse light bulb error check with VAGCOM. Now running LED bulbs without any issue.

Here are the steps:
Module 46 Central Convenience > Security Access 16 > 16017
Adaption 10 > Channel 181 > Convert your decimal number to binary (for example my default number in decimal is 65535, converted to binary = 1111111111111111), then change bit 10 and 11 from 1 to 0 (my new binary value becomes 1111001111111111, which is 62463 in decimal) > Enter the new binary value > Test > Save

Thank you. After I saw this post, I put my $12 Chinese ebay LED's back in and coded the errors away on VCDS. No errors now. I have more light than the OEM's, and no more yellow light in the middle of all my LED tail lights.

[jschrauwen]

I'm not sure why you're still sidestepping my main query - H11 LED fog light bulbs.
Once again you posted test results of your H7 in an effort to (I assume) fool people into believing the test results are the same as your H11's. Your H11's use 2 CREE ships on either side whereas your H7 use 3 smaller sized and obviously different type of led shipsets. Your H11 has a different overall design then your H7 - once again indicating you cannot compare your H7 results to your H11.

You also addressed cost and brand power.
Cost:
Your H11's are listed for $149.
http://deautokey.com/product/led-hea...ast-1800-lumen

Philips H11 is listed for $97 with free shipping worldwide.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/192739356720...m=192739356720


Brand loyalty:
There's a good reason why so many companies compare their products to Philips (or Osram) which are the industry leaders. There's a good reason why almost all top tier euro cars come equipped with Philips HID's as oem equipment. There's also must be a good reason why many companies try to copy/duplicate the design/tech of Philips (and Osram) bulbs.

Perhaps at some point you can show actual test results of your H11's and not that of a "similar" bulb.

Thanks for the questions. There is some confusion we can clear up.

We are simply giving the results our LEDs are used for: low and fog housing reflector housing. In the chart it is low beam and high beam lux. Our low beam lux was better than philips. You are looking at the high beam.

The video you posted is from over a year ago and we no longer sell those for the fogs because it had more components: larger ballast/resistors and many wanted something easier to install. This new design is almost as bright as our old design (we won't lie and say it is brighter but it is very very close). The h11/h7 are the same design and were both tested. We actually contacted the person from bulbfacts and he told us he uses our LEDs in his daily drive as it produced the most light on the road in his car which meant a lot to us that it beat out morimoto and philips which are two major brands. We focus a lot on just our LEDs and bringing the best so being recognized for it is big for us.

That bulb is better in low beam and fogs which we exclusively use them for - low beam reflector:
http://deautokey.com/product/headlig...g-vw-audi-jeep

fogs:
http://deautokey.com/product/led-hea...ast-1800-lumen


There are many designs online that are similar but are not as bright. The bulbfact chart shows this on their website. The philips are also $200. When they launched their version 1 model it was so dim and $200 that we were shocked anyone was suggesting them on the forums. But we suppose brand power came into play with that kit and why we hit the forums with real results/feedback and comparisons showing the difference. What you see online from our real customer feedback is what you will see in person. We appreciate the question for sure but want to be clear we are honest and would not sell something that is not 100%.

[deAutoLED.com]

I'm not sure why you're still sidestepping my main query - H11 LED fog light bulbs.
Once again you posted test results of your H7 in an effort to (I assume) fool people into believing the test results are the same as your H11's. Your H11's use 2 CREE ships on either side whereas your H7 use 3 smaller sized and obviously different type of led shipsets. Your H11 has a different overall design then your H7 - once again indicating you cannot compare your H7 results to your H11.

You also addressed cost and brand power.
Cost:
Your H11's are listed for $149.
http://deautokey.com/product/led-hea...ast-1800-lumen

Philips H11 is listed for $97 with free shipping worldwide.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/192739356720...m=192739356720


Brand loyalty:
There's a good reason why so many companies compare their products to Philips (or Osram) which are the industry leaders. There's a good reason why almost all top tier euro cars come equipped with Philips HID's as oem equipment. There's also must be a good reason why many companies try to copy/duplicate the design/tech of Philips (and Osram) bulbs.

Perhaps at some point you can show actual test results of your H11's and not that of a "similar" bulb.

We are telling you the truth but you are not listening so we will explain it again and try to be more clear for you.

The h7 (that you saw tested in the chart) and h11 LEDs we sell are identical. The only difference is literally the adapters and plug which are the H11 style instead of the H7.

Our new design beat out the NEW brighter updated Philip LEDs that replaced the Philip LEDs you are sharing for $95. That old model is even LESS bright vs the new model out. That is a very OLD/OUTDATED technology and assume they still sell it because they still have stock of it left.

In our case we always stay up to date with the latest and best LED Diode Technology and we only sell product that our customer's will be 100% happy with installing in their car and are bright.



Again: The H11 found here in this listing are the same as the H7:
http://deautokey.com/product/led-hea...ast-1800-lumen

We hope this clears up any confusion.

We will also leave this here - this is written on the Philip fog box that you keep sharing - it is not even worth $95 in our opinion:



And this is a customer photo showing the philips you keep suggesting vs our H11 (same as the H7 in the chart - we hope this is clear now):


Recent customer feedback:

The white light is brighter than philips led for sure.

We are happy that he tried both - we would love for anyone that can show us a receipt for philip LEDs to email [email protected] - we can offer a discount if you are switching from philip to our product - brighter/more lumens/more light down and on sides of road. This will change the way you feel when you driver: safer and more enjoyable.


ALERT - UPDATE - OUR REVERSE LEDS ARE // ERROR FREE // PLUG & PLAY // NO RESISTORS // JUST A BULB:
http://deautokey.com/product/audi-19...-rs3-many-more