droppin ur car depends on quiet a few things. are u looking for comfort, or just stiff ? also the size of ur rims and tires. these i believe make the best ingredients. in montreal, i've been driving with stock shocks and h&r springs for about 2 years and i use to have a reiger kit. very tricky with pot holes, corners and some streets where they dont care about our lowered cars. so the best thing at the end is wat u r looking for, if its comfort get some coilovers cuz eventually u'll get them(do the best work). but if u jus want a drop regardless of feel then spring it with some shocks. good luck