Anybody has accomplish this?

[Rondonia]

Ok.

I'll try my best to explain this. Keep in mind english is not my first language.

I have an Audi A4 2004. It has the key lock feature. But I would like to install an alarm. Because last summer someone broke into my car for a f#$R%^ iPod the glass cost me more than the friking iPod. Anyway I'm looking for a bypass or some kind of alarm that will work togheter with the oringal key. In another worlds when I use my original remote control to lock the car also will activate the alarm. Reason why I want to do that? Very simple I dont want to walk around with my original remote control and the other one for the alarm or just the alarm. I want to use my original remote to accomplish both task.

Anybody has done that?

And if yes. What brand and model of alarm system?

Thanks in advance.

[a4mafia]

check with the dealership

[F16HTON]

What type of alarm are you looking to install? Our car comes with an alarm that is far superior to any aftermarket.

The only real downfall is that the horn (if you want to call it that) is pretty quiet. You can add a siren to the factory alarm if you know what you are doing.

In the trunk, behind the carpet on the passenger side is the factor alarm horn (if you want to call it that) which also houses the back up battery.

You can tap into the signal that triggers the horn and use it to power up the coil on a relay to power up a secondary siren.

Everything i just said probably makes zero sense to you right now, but an alarm or stereo shop will fully understand.

If you leave you iPod and other shit out into the open, your car WILL eventually get it's window broken and you shit stolen...especially if you are younger, because younger people do stupid shit and go stupid places to get their shit stolen.

[moroblues4]

your car has a oem alarm you can change the siren that is in the right side of the tunk take off the right panel in the tunk you will see it

[Rondonia]

What type of alarm are you looking to install? Our car comes with an alarm that is far superior to any aftermarket.

The only real downfall is that the horn (if you want to call it that) is pretty quiet. You can add a siren to the factory alarm if you know what you are doing.

In the trunk, behind the carpet on the passenger side is the factor alarm horn (if you want to call it that) which also houses the back up battery.

You can tap into the signal that triggers the horn and use it to power up the coil on a relay to power up a secondary siren.

Everything i just said probably makes zero sense to you right now, but an alarm or stereo shop will fully understand.

If you leave you iPod and other shit out into the open, your car WILL eventually get it's window broken and you shit stolen...especially if you are younger, because younger people do stupid shit and go stupid places to get their shit stolen.

Man. Don't takes this the wrong way ok. It’s just a bit of advice for you. You're a business man, you know a lot of Car especially Audi. But WHAT FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? You always have to end you answer with some bad mouthing shit, or negativity or some depressing. I been following this forum for years and even when you give good advices just like the one you just gave you ALL F@#$%*& WAYS has to end with something negativity. Once again please don't reply to this if you don’t have something POSITIVLE TO SAY PLEASE. I just got a nice e-mail from you're very polity on your e-mail but here on this forum it always DOWN.

[Exanimas]

Man. Don't takes this the wrong way ok. It’s just a bit of advice for you. You're a business man, you know a lot of Car especially Audi. But WHAT FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? You always have to end you answer with some bad mouthing shit, or negativity or some depressing. I been following this forum for years and even when you give good advices just like the one you just gave you ALL F@#$%*& WAYS has to end with something negativity. Once again please don't reply to this if you don’t have something POSITIVLE TO SAY PLEASE. I just got a nice e-mail from you're very polity on your e-mail but here on this forum it always DOWN.

I don't really think his comment really warranted a rant like that. Cool down, the interwebs aren't supposed to be taken to srsly. Besides, he answered your question in full. Just disregard everything after the answer.

[F16HTON]

Dude, you are coming her on a public forum and asking advice, in turn you are asking a question that you only want one specific answer for, however there is usually never one specific answer for a question.

If you do not get the answer you want to hear, then drive on and do not use it...

Did you or did you not leave your iPod out when somebody could see it and break you glass?

Stealing your iPod was a crime of opportunity, you gave the perpetrator the opportuninty and motive by leaving it out in the open where it could be seen.

There is not alarm in the world that would have prevented this, mainly due to the fact that the glass gets broken first, alarm goes off second.

Alarms are not a prevention to crime, however not having stuff out in the open is. I know it sucks to be talked to like you are a kid, but sometimes things need to be explained this way for it to set in.

[Rondonia]

Dude, you are coming her on a public forum and asking advice, in turn you are asking a question that you only want one specific answer for, however there is usually never one specific answer for a question.

If you do not get the answer you want to hear, then drive on and do not use it...

Did you or did you not leave your iPod out when somebody could see it and break you glass?

Stealing your iPod was a crime of opportunity, you gave the perpetrator the opportuninty and motive by leaving it out in the open where it could be seen.

There is not alarm in the world that would have prevented this, mainly due to the fact that the glass gets broken first, alarm goes off second.

Alarms are not a prevention to crime, however not having stuff out in the open is. I know it sucks to be talked to like you are a kid, but sometimes things need to be explained this way for it to set in.

Dude I'm an IT guy, you don't need to explain to me how the alarm works I know the alarm just go off if you break in I know that. What I was looking for was something that will alarm off the mother fuck to get off my car and make lots of noise to alert me to go check my car. Simple right? About leaving shit on the open my car has has 20% tinit all way aroud with black leather and my ipod was black and it was on the seat the motherfuck that got it from me must get very close to my car and even got very close to the glass to see. Got it now?

But seriouslly stop the bad mouth thing or putting people down. Seriously take as an good advice. You'll see that your life will be a lot better.

[F16HTON]

You still left it out in the open...iPod was yours, now it is his...I wonder which one of your playlists he listening to right now.

My life is incredible...I have a very fast car, beautiful wife, killer dog, and am listening to my iPod as I type.

[thebikedoctor33]

My life is incredible...I have a very fast car, beautiful wife, killer dog, and am listening to my iPod as I type.

haha, is this the definition of an incredible life? what has humanity come to, forget making a positive impact on the world, using and developing one's talents, finding something meaningful to bring happiness.

but a fast car, good looking wife, "killer dog" and an ipod!!! now youre talking!!

[Rondonia]

You still left it out in the open...iPod was yours, now it is his...I wonder which one of your playlists he listening to right now.

My life is incredible...I have a very fast car, beautiful wife, killer dog, and am listening to my iPod as I type.

he's probally listen to Brazilian music LOL. Your car just got stolen go check, your beatiful wife is beatiful because the plastic surgery she has done LOL, killer dog WTF, come check my little "cat" here in Brazil, Do you know what he likes for lunch? "killer dogs". so you're the one the stole it?

Send it back to me.

Happy new years.

[Audi_Doody]

haha, is this the definition of an incredible life? what has humanity come to, forget making a positive impact on the world, using and developing one's talents, finding something meaningful to bring happiness.

but a fast car, good looking wife, "killer dog" and an ipod!!! now youre talking!!

I'm not takin' sides at all on this convo but man you gotta love this comment.

[JMRQuattro]

Rondonia: Dude i'm not thinking spending a shit load of money and wasting a ton of time is gonna be the best preventative action towards having stuff stolen. I agree with 400HPA4. Cause think of the times that your car is somewhere you can't hear the alarm. Sitting outside of your house i could see it, but in a parking lot somewhere while you shop or while you're at work isn't gonna be very effective. Hiding your stuff is the best way to prevent it. I mean it's like when you buy a giant navigation in the dash of your car and expect it to not get stolen, you're pretty much asking for trouble.

But if you want to spend $1000+ on a good quality alarm and have it integrated into your factory key be my guest. Ask the dealer or ask a local customs shop. But then when you leave your stuff out in the open and it gets stolen again, have fun justifying the cost of the alarm.

EDIT: and by integrating it into your factory key you'd be hindering yourself btw... because good alarm system's like viper have a GPS screen attached that sends a signal to your key when your car gets fucked with and lets you know while you're away from your car. By integrating the ON/OFF feature into your factory audi key fob you'd really be spending a lot of time to fuck yourself over.

[Rondonia]

Rondonia: Dude i'm not thinking spending a shit load of money and wasting a ton of time is gonna be the best preventative action towards having stuff stolen. I agree with 400HPA4. Cause think of the times that your car is somewhere you can't hear the alarm. Sitting outside of your house i could see it, but in a parking lot somewhere while you shop or while you're at work isn't gonna be very effective. Hiding your stuff is the best way to prevent it. I mean it's like when you buy a giant navigation in the dash of your car and expect it to not get stolen, you're pretty much asking for trouble.

But if you want to spend $1000+ on a good quality alarm and have it integrated into your factory key be my guest. Ask the dealer or ask a local customs shop. But then when you leave your stuff out in the open and it gets stolen again, have fun justifying the cost of the alarm.

EDIT: and by integrating it into your factory key you'd be hindering yourself btw... because good alarm system's like viper have a GPS screen attached that sends a signal to your key when your car gets fucked with and lets you know while you're away from your car. By integrating the ON/OFF feature into your factory audi key fob you'd really be spending a lot of time to fuck yourself over.

See. That's what I talking about. Someone inteligent, polite and wants to imporve the community. Way to go SeatownB6. Thank you very much your answer. That explain everything I would like to know. Thanks again.

[thebikedoctor33]

did you guys ever hear of those systems that use like a siren style speaker inside the cabin of the car, to make it unbearable to be inside when the alarm is going off. if i ever upgrade my factory alarm, i think that would be on the list...

[AudiA4Turbo22]

You still left it out in the open...iPod was yours, now it is his...I wonder which one of your playlists he listening to right now.

My life is incredible...I have a very fast car, beautiful wife, killer dog, and am listening to my iPod as I type.

I love this guy haha his comments lol.

Dude ur arguing with the master, he's telling you for ur own good! He's not feeling good about himself because he was trying to dis u. He was simply stating if something is out in the open it will be stolen. People these days break into a car for a Dollar bill. His post is the most informative and he is trying to HELP YOU!!!! not himself his car is sweet. The four rings under his name doesn't happen as well as his great reputation by dissing other people. He's one of the pioneers of the modded B6 A4's.


Oh and if u SEARCHED like a normal AZ'er u would've seen that I MYSELF have asked the SAME QUESTION in a thread which includes ALARM in the title.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

did you guys ever hear of those systems that use like a siren style speaker inside the cabin of the car, to make it unbearable to be inside when the alarm is going off. if i ever upgrade my factory alarm, i think that would be on the list...

i think it is called a Piezzo siren or something and i want some.

[dirtybrd]

Greg's the OB1Kanobe of the B6. I know I screwed the spelling up.

[Rondonia]

I love this guy haha his comments lol.

Dude ur arguing with the master, he's telling you for ur own good! He's not feeling good about himself because he was trying to dis u. He was simply stating if something is out in the open it will be stolen. People these days break into a car for a Dollar bill. His post is the most informative and he is trying to HELP YOU!!!! not himself his car is sweet. The four rings under his name doesn't happen as well as his great reputation by dissing other people. He's one of the pioneers of the modded B6 A4's.


Oh and if u SEARCHED like a normal AZ'er u would've seen that I MYSELF have asked the SAME QUESTION in a thread which includes ALARM in the title.

Kirk I read all you post. As you tiltle yourself you're a post whore. But I never saw you putting someone down like this guy. Remember when you're doing the door blades? All he had to say was. Will not work, the material are not the same, its always something negative, Its never a complement. And about his 4 ring underneath his name he's on this forum since 2004, SeatownB6 its on this forum since Jul 2008 and he also has 4 rings. What does that tell you? I never met 400HPA4, I don't know his car. I really aplaude him for been a pioneers on the modded B6 A4. But where I came from I learn to help people, encorage them, give good advice it always a PLUS. I know he gave me a good advice, but at the and he ALWAYS has to be nasty. And its not just with me. I'm just trying to prove a point. Now let me ask something over here for everybody.

PLEASE DON'T REPPLY TO THIS TREAD ANYMORE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE QUESTION.

If you have any comments about me or 400HPA4 or SeatownB6 or anybody that is not related to the QUESTION please don't do it.

Lets focus on improve the community and help which other. Just answer the question and hold your kid or left thing on the open for yourself. LOL.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

Kirk I read all you post. As you tiltle yourself you're a post whore. But I never saw you putting someone down like this guy. Remember when you're doing the door blades? All he had to say was. Will not work, the material are not the same, its always something negative, Its never a complement. And about his 4 ring underneath his name he's on this forum since 2004, SeatownB6 its on this forum since Jul 2008 and he also has 4 rings. What does that tell you? I never met him, I don't know his car. I really aplaude him for been a pioneers on the modded B6 A4. But where I came from I learn to help people, encorage them, give god advice it always a PLUS. I know he gave me a good advice, but at the and he ALWAYS has to be nasty. And its not just with me. I'm just trying to prove a point. Now let me ask something over here for everybody.

PLEASE DON'T REPPLY TO THIS TREAD ANYMORE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE QUESTION.

If you have any comments about me or 400HPA4 or SeatownB6 or anybody that is not related to the QUESTION please don't do it.

Lets focus on improve the community and help which other. Just answer the question and hold your kid or left thing on the open for yourself. LOL.

He's honest and that's what matters i've spoken to him on the phone and this guy had a good reason for his comment because he believes in function over form. What the hell are u doing diggin up old crap anyways? He has complemented stuff many times.

[Rondonia]

He's honest and that's what matters i've spoken to him on the phone and this guy had a good reason for his comment because he believes in function over form. What the hell are u doing diggin up old crap anyways? He has complemented stuff many times.

Let's drop this. Please.

P.S. But I was right. He gave you crap for that S4 door blades reproduction.

[JMRQuattro]

I am in no way a pioneer for modded B6 A4's lol. I just read a lot, am on here every day, and post on things i have knowledge about. There are a ton of things i have no clue how to do, i just try my best to learn.

I guess you're just learning that people for some reason feel the need to yell at others (flame) online for wasting their time with stupid posts when their not really doing much but filling boredom anyway. I never got that. Yes people don't know how to use the search button, but how precious is your time in the first place if you're using it to search audizine aimlessly? Don't need to get all heated and be an ass hole. But 400HPA4 wasn't really being an ass hole, i think his tone was just misconstrued...

[B6Lovin]

Let's drop this. Please.

P.S. But I was right. He gave you crap for that S4 door blades reproduction.

dude I really wish you would shut up... Greg wasn't being rude he was trying to help you and you blew up on him with some asinine response. You're telling him not to respond if he's going to say something negative maybe you should shut the fuck up for two seconds and listen to your own advice. I'm sick of stupid fucks like you coming on here and Talkingshit when people you don't even know aren't 100% polite to you. Why don't you keep learning english and until you get that just right you shut the hell up and go back to trolling.

[Rondonia]

dude I really wish you would shut up... Greg wasn't being rude he was trying to help you and you blew up on him with some asinine response. You're telling him not to respond if he's going to say something negative maybe you should shut the fuck up for two seconds and listen to your own advice. I'm sick of stupid fucks like you coming on here and Talkingshit when people you don't even know aren't 100% polite to you. Why don't you keep learning english and until you get that just right you shut the hell up and go back to trolling.

Another BIG GUY behind the keyboard. Like those trucks they talk loud and crisp behind the CB, but when you see them on the truck stop they all are 4x4.
4 feet tall x 4 feet wide.

[Exanimas]

This thread could not get locked soon enough.

[Rondonia]

This thread could not get locked soon enough.

LOL. I totally agreed. It will make thing a lot easier. LOL.

[agart]

dude I really wish you would shut up... Greg wasn't being rude he was trying to help you and you blew up on him with some asinine response. You're telling him not to respond if he's going to say something negative maybe you should shut the fuck up for two seconds and listen to your own advice. I'm sick of stupid fucks like you coming on here and Talkingshit when people you don't even know aren't 100% polite to you. Why don't you keep learning english and until you get that just right you shut the hell up and go back to trolling.

I haven't even been here that long and +238947234986.

You wanted advice, his best piece of advice was don't leave your iPod out in the open. Keep in mind, having tinted glass is just another invite, not a deterrant. He also told you exactly the capabilities of the stock alarm system, including how you could modify it to help yourself out. Don't flame someone when you just stated you don't speak English well because you clearly didn't get that he was trying to help you.

[JMRQuattro]

like i said, you're learning quickly that people over the internet are pretty angry and feel like they need to yell at people.

And to everyone else yelling at him, it's obvious his english isn't strong so give him a break. Picking up english in person is pretty hard let alone an internet forum where reading tones is next to impossible. Just give it a rest guys. It's really not that big of a deal. He got the answer to his question, so by acting like a bunch of tough guys and bitching him out on the internet, neither you or him are going anywhere fast with this conversation. I learned that the hard way with dean, and in the end it's really not worth it. It's pointless. Move on.

We need a mod to kill this thread or at least clean it up.

[Rondonia]

I haven't even been here that long and +238947234986.

You wanted advice, his best piece of advice was don't leave your iPod out in the open. Keep in mind, having tinted glass is just another invite, not a deterrant. He also told you exactly the capabilities of the stock alarm system, including how you could modify it to help yourself out. Don't flame someone when you just stated you don't speak English well because you clearly didn't get that he was trying to help you.

Man I got the advice piece. I got believe me. The only part that I think was UNECESSARY was the end of his "help"

Please tell me.

His quotes.
"especially if you are younger, because younger people do stupid shit and go stupid places to get their shit stolen"

"I know it sucks to be talked to like you are a kid, but sometimes things need to be explained this way for it to set in".

Did you ever went to a place "to get you shit stole"?

By the way where my shit got stolen was in downtown on busy street on noon time. I tought that a loud siren would scare the shit of the thieve and call attention to my car. Even if wasn't close to it other people would look to it and the m@#$%^& would be scare and run away.

Now lets stop this please. I already got it. I already fix the glass, insurance paid for it. I already bought the new iPod touch "much bettter" thanks to you that broken into my car. Everything is fine now. I even order the loud siren for the alarm ok.

Thanks everybody for the Help.

Inclued you 400HPA4. And sorry for anything.

Happy New Year.
Feliz Natal.

Whatever language you like.

[B6Lovin]

Another BIG GUY behind the keyboard. Like those trucks they talk loud and crisp behind the CB, but when you see them on the truck stop they all are 4x4.
4 feet tall x 4 feet wide.

look jackass, i'm not the one who started talking shit to people who tried to help. how is anything that greg said NOT true? i'm young and i do plenty of stupid shit and have left my car in a lot of REALLY bad areas unattended for more than long enough for things to be stolen. it happens. i've been fortunate enough so far to not have anyone break in - but that doesnt make his advice any less applicable. if you don't like how it's worded then pretend it says something else and move on with your life.

you're the one starting needless e-fights with people just because you think he was rude at the end. in case you havent noticed - greg really doesn't give a shit if you think he's nice or not. foul mouth fowler isnt something i'd expect a non-confrontational person to go by.... this is the internet, get some midol and get used to it.

a little piece of wisdom that follows its own rule for you: sometimes the best advice is the kind you don't want to hear.

[B6Lovin]

like i said, you're learning quickly that people over the internet are pretty angry and feel like they need to yell at people.

And to everyone else yelling at him, it's obvious his english isn't strong so give him a break. Picking up english in person is pretty hard let alone an internet forum where reading tones is next to impossible. Just give it a rest guys. It's really not that big of a deal. He got the answer to his question, so by acting like a bunch of tough guys and bitching him out on the internet, neither you or him are going anywhere fast with this conversation. I learned that the hard way with dean, and in the end it's really not worth it. It's pointless. Move on.

We need a mod to kill this thread or at least clean it up.

its not a need to yell at people, and it's not "acting tough". if i want to act tough for some reason i'll find a good reason to do it and do it in person. that's the point you're all missing -- if i want to be harsh in a reply to someone else's idiotic post, i will if i think it's warranted. the uncalled for ranting by the OP in regards to answers to his questions is certainly reason enough for me to post - especially with how much this has been happening lately.

the only thing i feel is that i'm tired of seeing people bitch up storms every time someone gives them tough love. i see it every single day whether it's here, at work, or just out and about. maybe i'm more sensitive to it with where i grew up - but the "i need help, but not YOUR help" attitude strikes a nerve with me and that shit just doesn't cut it. ANYONE (not just the OP) who feels the need to lash out at people giving assistance needs to suck it up and take what they're given and quit being a whiny little bitch about the whole thing.

/rant

[Rondonia]

look jackass, i'm not the one who started talking shit to people who tried to help. how is anything that greg said NOT true? i'm young and i do plenty of stupid shit and have left my car in a lot of REALLY bad areas unattended for more than long enough for things to be stolen. it happens. i've been fortunate enough so far to not have anyone break in - but that doesnt make his advice any less applicable. if you don't like how it's worded then pretend it says something else and move on with your life.

you're the one starting needless e-fights with people just because you think he was rude at the end. in case you havent noticed - greg really doesn't give a shit if you think he's nice or not. foul mouth fowler isnt something i'd expect a non-confrontational person to go by.... this is the internet, get some midol and get used to it.

a little piece of wisdom that follows its own rule for you: sometimes the best advice is the kind you don't want to hear.

OK. Thanks jackass stupid young A4 owner .LOL.

this post needs to end. LOL.

[JMRQuattro]

its not a need to yell at people, and it's not "acting tough". if i want to act tough for some reason i'll find a good reason to do it and do it in person. that's the point you're all missing -- if i want to be harsh in a reply to someone else's idiotic post, i will if i think it's warranted. the uncalled for ranting by the OP in regards to answers to his questions is certainly reason enough for me to post - especially with how much this has been happening lately.

the only thing i feel is that i'm tired of seeing people bitch up storms every time someone gives them tough love. i see it every single day whether it's here, at work, or just out and about. maybe i'm more sensitive to it with where i grew up - but the "i need help, but not YOUR help" attitude strikes a nerve with me and that shit just doesn't cut it. ANYONE (not just the OP) who feels the need to lash out at people giving assistance needs to suck it up and take what they're given and quit being a whiny little bitch about the whole thing.

/rant

yeah i know how you feel, but trying to put people in their place when they don't feel they are in the wrong doesn't always work. I'll agree that sometimes what people need is a good slap to get them going, but other times you're just feeding the fire, you know what i mean? I'm not saying you're in the wrong for trying to get rid of it, cause i'll agree the bickering over the internet needs to stop, but being blunt is not always gonna work. I understand you're reaching your wits end though.

I'm usually a pretty calm guy, but i made the mistake of taking dean's advice in the wrong context once. I'm sure you remember it. I eventually just talked it out with him over a PM and apologized for freaking out on him like that. I realized what i was doing by yelling at him was less constructive then rationalizing the situation with him. I was just making enemies which is what i didn't want to do. Cause this site is full of useful information and helpful people, and i like being able to make use of that luxury.

And i'm sure the OP isn't a bad guy, so i'm just saying that being harsch back to him is just gonna make him react as he has been. Once the OP understands it's not worth it he'll cool down. Hopefully he'll read my response and he'll use it as advice.

[B6Lovin]

OK. Thanks jackass stupid young A4 owner .LOL.

this post needs to end. LOL.

that's what i'm saying about you. you don't know any of us or anything about us. im certainly a jackass stupid young a4 owner.... you hit that one on the head.

well, the young (that's relative though) and owner parts anyways

the only thing that needs to end is your attitude towards people who try to help you. if you wanna start shit up with me for defending them and pointing out how much of an idiot you are then that's fine and legitimate. but the next time someone offers you advice keep your shit shut and take what you're given.

and just for sake of conversation - what business do you have on these forums other than the fact that you have an a4? obviously you're not here for advice (or if you are you've never had anyone tell you a day in your life how to properly heed it)

so what is it? anything done to your car? maybe you're just bored? you're no pioneer, and you're definitely not a sea of information just waiting to spill the floodgates of your knowledge upon the masses of AZ'ers waiting to be educated... (don't laugh, we really do have people here like that - and we like them very much)

from what i've seen you're a troll that likes to stir shit up and act like a 4 year old who only got 1 candy bar instead of 2.

[B6Lovin]

yeah i know how you feel, but trying to put people in their place when they don't feel they are in the wrong doesn't always work. I'll agree that sometimes what people need is a good slap to get them going, but other times you're just feeding the fire, you know what i mean? I'm not saying you're in the wrong for trying to get rid of it, cause i'll agree the bickering over the internet needs to stop, but being blunt is not always gonna work. I understand you're reaching your wits end though.

I'm usually a pretty calm guy, but i made the mistake of taking dean's advice in the wrong context once. I'm sure you remember it. I eventually just talked it out with him over a PM and apologized for freaking out on him like that. I realized what i was doing by yelling at him was less constructive then rationalizing the situation with him. I was just making enemies which is what i didn't want to do. Cause this site is full of useful information and helpful people, and i like being able to make use of that luxury.

And i'm sure the OP isn't a bad guy, so i'm just saying that being harsch back to him is just gonna make him react as he has been. Once the OP understands it's not worth it he'll cool down. Hopefully he'll read my response and he'll use it as advice.

i understand that, and i know you understand it. i just don't have patience enough for the people in my life that really matter - let enough morons on the internet whom i've never met. there are people on this site that i consider friends - people who i would let stay in my house, eat my food, and that i'd really do anything within reason to help... so don't take it as a completely impersonal stab at the fabric of the community. there are bonds beyond the keyboard for a lot of people here and i'm not trying to take away from that.

i just think that people like this have never been put in their place. i've seen it my whole life, and its terrible and stupid. to me "yelling" at greg for giving advice is just as bad as the kids i grew up around who bitched about getting a lexus instead of a benz. we've all seen the type, and i for one will not let that be the stereotype of people who own and drive the type of car i do. (afterall, i take a LOT of pride in my car and the people i'm around most often associate people by what they drive.. nobody wants to be the dumb ricer, and nobody wants to be the snobbish euro owner)

i remember your brief spat with dean, and i know exactly what you mean. i guess i'm just too strong willed (or hard headed) to really care what this guy thinks of me after the fact. he has yet to even remotely admit that he was wrong in any light, and even went so far as to sarcastically accuse greg of being the thief. again, might be how/where i was raised - but you don't just cut down someone's character like that in any type of open or public area ESPECIALLY when they've JUST tried to help you out. it's a slap in the face and it's a million times more uncalled for than any mis-read statement about young people parking in dumb parts of town.

even from the few times i've talked to greg (over more than just the internet) i know that he deserves more respect than that. things like this are the reason why people like john (diagnosticator) and others don't post as often (or in some cases, at all) anymore. they feel that their advice is under-appreciated and often disregarded by the very people asking for it.

[Rondonia]

i understand that, and i know you understand it. i just don't have patience enough for the people in my life that really matter - let enough morons on the internet whom i've never met. there are people on this site that i consider friends - people who i would let stay in my house, eat my food, and that i'd really do anything within reason to help... so don't take it as a completely impersonal stab at the fabric of the community. there are bonds beyond the keyboard for a lot of people here and i'm not trying to take away from that.

i just think that people like this have never been put in their place. i've seen it my whole life, and its terrible and stupid. to me "yelling" at greg for giving advice is just as bad as the kids i grew up around who bitched about getting a lexus instead of a benz. we've all seen the type, and i for one will not let that be the stereotype of people who own and drive the type of car i do. (afterall, i take a LOT of pride in my car and the people i'm around most often associate people by what they drive.. nobody wants to be the dumb ricer, and nobody wants to be the snobbish euro owner)

i remember your brief spat with dean, and i know exactly what you mean. i guess i'm just too strong willed (or hard headed) to really care what this guy thinks of me after the fact. he has yet to even remotely admit that he was wrong in any light, and even went so far as to sarcastically accuse greg of being the thief. again, might be how/where i was raised - but you don't just cut down someone's character like that in any type of open or public area ESPECIALLY when they've JUST tried to help you out. it's a slap in the face and it's a million times more uncalled for than any mis-read statement about young people parking in dumb parts of town.

even from the few times i've talked to greg (over more than just the internet) i know that he deserves more respect than that. things like this are the reason why people like john (diagnosticator) and others don't post as often (or in some cases, at all) anymore. they feel that their advice is under-appreciated and often disregarded by the very people asking for it.

Hey next time you're coming to the Tri-State let me know I'll pick you up at the airport, take you to a good restaurant BTW do you like Brazilian food? If you got so offend wih my joke about Greg whatever his name is IT WAS A JOKE and I believe he got it. because he did not repply. Now peace ok.

Good night.

P.S. I even let you drive my car as long you stay aroud here, but let me tell you its very slow OEM head to end. But Looks good.

Now lets end this ok peace.

[B6Lovin]

Hey next time you're coming to the Tri-State let me know I'll pick you up at the airport, take you to a good restaurant BTW do you like Brazilian food? If you got so offend wih my joke about Greg whatever his name is IT WAS A JOKE and I believe he got it. because he did not repply. Now peace ok.

Good night.

P.S. I even let you drive my car as long you stay aroud here, but let me tell you its very slow OEM head to end. But Looks good.

Now lets end this ok peace.

fine by me and i get your point. if it's a joke - sorry, but i don't find it funny and i do think it's extremely offensive.

fyi yes, i love brazilian food - it's just hard to find any good restaurants around me. (they're never open very long for some reason)

i'm done with the argument too - i've made my point, people can draw their own conclusions from here

[JMRQuattro]

i understand that, and i know you understand it. i just don't have patience enough for the people in my life that really matter - let enough morons on the internet whom i've never met. there are people on this site that i consider friends - people who i would let stay in my house, eat my food, and that i'd really do anything within reason to help... so don't take it as a completely impersonal stab at the fabric of the community. there are bonds beyond the keyboard for a lot of people here and i'm not trying to take away from that.

i just think that people like this have never been put in their place. i've seen it my whole life, and its terrible and stupid. to me "yelling" at greg for giving advice is just as bad as the kids i grew up around who bitched about getting a lexus instead of a benz. we've all seen the type, and i for one will not let that be the stereotype of people who own and drive the type of car i do. (afterall, i take a LOT of pride in my car and the people i'm around most often associate people by what they drive.. nobody wants to be the dumb ricer, and nobody wants to be the snobbish euro owner)

i remember your brief spat with dean, and i know exactly what you mean. i guess i'm just too strong willed (or hard headed) to really care what this guy thinks of me after the fact. he has yet to even remotely admit that he was wrong in any light, and even went so far as to sarcastically accuse greg of being the thief. again, might be how/where i was raised - but you don't just cut down someone's character like that in any type of open or public area ESPECIALLY when they've JUST tried to help you out. it's a slap in the face and it's a million times more uncalled for than any mis-read statement about young people parking in dumb parts of town.

even from the few times i've talked to greg (over more than just the internet) i know that he deserves more respect than that. things like this are the reason why people like john (diagnosticator) and others don't post as often (or in some cases, at all) anymore. they feel that their advice is under-appreciated and often disregarded by the very people asking for it.

We have the same mentality when it comes to this kind of stuff. I know exactly how you feel. I'm not usually the type to take a backseat in an argument, i'm just the same when it comes to being hard headed. I don't know how many times i've put someone in their place without thinking twice, and 90% of the time it's worked out.

And i agree about the disrespect of advice. A lot of times the people asking advice don't always take it and it is frustrating. Sometimes they are only looking for what they want to hear. And not always do they get that. And I agree that people like John, Greg, Dean, Mike, Anthony, and Doug are posting a lot more sparingly, even since i've been on here, which isn't a very long time compared to some of you senior members. And they seem to be posting the majority of their help in threads started by people they respect because they know their opinions will be listened to. And i don't blame them. I was only a couple months ahead of the huge rush of new members we've had. I can see why this has been irritating. That's why my amount of posts has decreased as well. I've been less and less motivated to sit here and read through everything and post my input because it's been slowly getting to the point where it feels like it's not even being read or considered anymore. I feel like just another contribution to the number of posts. So i've been trying my best to not just be another new member and actually contribute to the community.

I feel like this could be to the point where it might get out of control with too many members disrespecting one another. I've seen more heated arguments recently, in the last month or so, than the first 4 or 5 months i was on here in total. Not having been on here for a long period of time i even see it myself, and i feel just like you that it's taking away from what the forums were made for in the first place.

And i agree with your previous statement when you said, "what business do you have on these forums other than the fact that you have an a4?". That thought seems to be more and more common these days. And if it weren't for previous existing relationships that people have on here i probably would be more worried about the personal fabric of the site. But i know i always have those good guys to turn to for advice if i need it. And i would like to think they would like to help me out even though i don't know anyone here personally, with the exception of john.

But i think all we can do is ignore the OP and let him make his enemies and find out he won't get help that way.

[B6Lovin]

We have the same mentality when it comes to this kind of stuff. I know exactly how you feel. I'm not usually the type to take a backseat in an argument, i'm just the same when it comes to being hard headed. I don't know how many times i've put someone in their place without thinking twice, and 90% of the time it's worked out.

And i agree about the disrespect of advice. A lot of times the people asking advice don't always take it and it is frustrating. Sometimes they are only looking for what they want to hear. And not always do they get that. And I agree that people like John, Greg, Dean, Mike, Anthony, and Doug are posting a lot more sparingly, even since i've been on here, which isn't a very long time compared to some of you senior members. And they seem to be posting the majority of their help in threads started by people they respect because they know their opinions will be listened to. And i don't blame them. I was only a couple months ahead of the huge rush of new members we've had. I can see why this has been irritating. That's why my amount of posts has decreased as well. I've been less and less motivated to sit here and read through everything and post my input because it's been slowly getting to the point where it feels like it's not even being read or considered anymore. I feel like just another contribution to the number of posts. So i've been trying my best to not just be another new member and actually contribute to the community.

I feel like this could be to the point where it might get out of control with too many members disrespecting one another. I've seen more heated arguments recently, in the last month or so, than the first 4 or 5 months i was on here in total. Not having been on here for a long period of time i even see it myself, and i feel just like you that it's taking away from what the forums were made for in the first place.

And i agree with your previous statement when you said, "what business do you have on these forums other than the fact that you have an a4?". That thought seems to be more and more common these days. And if it weren't for previous existing relationships that people have on here i probably would be more worried about the personal fabric of the site. But i know i always have those good guys to turn to for advice if i need it. And i would like to think they would like to help me out even though i don't know anyone here personally, with the exception of john.

But i think all we can do is ignore the OP and let him make his enemies and find out he won't get help that way.

most sensible post of the night

[Rondonia]

fine by me and i get your point. if it's a joke - sorry, but i don't find it funny and i do think it's extremely offensive.

fyi yes, i love brazilian food - it's just hard to find any good restaurants around me. (they're never open very long for some reason)

i'm done with the argument too - i've made my point, people can draw their own conclusions from here

There we go. Another happy customer. IT'S A JOKE.

Ok now here's a list of Brazilian Restaurant in YOUR CITY

And don't forget when you're coming up here let know I'll go get you at the airport for real. Peace.