Boost not really kicking in 2nd gear

[A4p]

Just got the Revo stage 3 file with genesis 550cc. Im very happy with it but i have a little problem in 2nd gear boost will not come. I can feel the boost in all the other gear (can hear my tiny ko3 is spooling). When i am at 2nd and push the gas pedal all the way down it feels like the boost is coming but something is holding it back... any help will be appriciated...

[G.O.A.T.]

Possibly your file needs to be tuned, I had this issue when I first had the GIAC file installed on my S4. I believe you have to turn the ignition right before it actually turns on. Wait one minute and then turn it back off. Something about synching the ECU to get used to the file. It actually takes some time to break in.

[A4p]

Hmm possible, will try that out, anyone else can up with a solution what it could be??

[Undisputed]

You're running REVO Stage 3 with 550 injectors on a KO3?

[A4p]

Yes

[Molotov]

well that's probably your problem....

[mike-2ptzero]

Yes

Why would you run a tune for a eliminator size turbo on a K03 and expect it to run at 100%?

[A4ringedONE8T]

What the bad part is, the REVO dealer is supposed to verify your hardware before flashing it. Clearly you didnt have the required hardware for the stage 3 flash. Two wrongs dont make a right. Perhaps you should learn what your dealing with before you make stupid decisions ....

[Molotov]

assuming your signature is up to date, you have two options.
One is to get an FMIC, clutch, big turbo, exhaust manifold, exhaust, highflow cat/test pipe.... or go get reflashed.

[Undisputed]

Yes

How the heck did you pull that off? You should only be at Stage 1. You don't even have the proper injectors for the Stage 2 setup let alone all the supporting mods. You can't even run the full Stage 2 without FMIC and at least a testpipe. You'd better get yourself some 380's or 386's and get flashed to Stage 1. I hope you didn't pay $700 to be at Stage 3.

[A4p]

What the bad part is, the REVO dealer is supposed to verify your hardware before flashing it. Clearly you didnt have the required hardware for the stage 3 flash. Two wrongs dont make a right. Perhaps you should learn what your dealing with before you make stupid decisions ....

they actually did verify what was required and recommended...
thought i could run it meanwhile i get the gtrs..

i think it is the ecu or the turbo that dosen't like to boost in 2nd gear...

[Undisputed]

they actually did verify what was required and recommended...
thought i could run it meanwhile i get the gtrs..

i think it is the ecu or the turbo that dosen't like to boost in 2nd gear...

So they flashed you to Stage 3 with the hopes that you'd be getting it eventually?

[A4p]

Yes .

[bwoy1981]

They wanted ur money!!!

[Undisputed]

Did you actually pay the$700 for them to do that? Please say that you didn't and it was a free flash from your dad's friend who owns the shop. What if you never do the upgrade? You'd never be able to sell that car to anyone who is reasonably intelligent.

[texasboy21]

hahaha your not going to get your boost problem fixed you know that right............you have the wrong tuning for the turbo THAT is the problem. get a reflash and i bet the problem will magically go away

barrett

[mike-2ptzero]

they actually did verify what was required and recommended...
thought i could run it meanwhile i get the gtrs..

i think it is the ecu or the turbo that dosen't like to boost in 2nd gear...

Not even close. If this was true everyone would just flash their cars with stage 3 right from the start since there would be no reason to even have a stage 1 or stage 2 flash tune.


Do it right or dont do it at all.

[A4p]

i actually paid 970£ with the select plus. so add injectors too.

[texasboy21]

^^^ so you did pay a lot for the wrong items.....awesome

barrett

[A4p]

Not even close. If this was true everyone would just flash their cars with stage 3 right from the start since there would be no reason to even have a stage 1 or stage 2 flash tune.


Do it right or dont do it at all.

No offence.. but reason i got the stage3 file was that it could be ready for the Gtrs..

but first i need TIP, and a boost gauge. gtrs will be the last

[QTC]

From Revo's website:

"Revo Stage 3 software has been specifically developed to compliment a proven package of extensive engine modifications. It allows the user to choose one of several turbo charger upgrades in addition to exhaust and intake upgrades. Our Stage 3 tuning is very aggressive and depending on the hardware package you opt for will yield up to 200% power gains over standard horsepower figures*. For this software to run efficiently and reliably, a strict hardware build list must be adhered to. The individual tested components are listed on each specific car’s application pages. The optional Select Plus is highly recommended for this range of software to guarantee the optimal performance gains achievable."

I think that above paragraph would clarify that running stock turbo/exhaust/etc isn't a good idea. I'd love to see your A/F graph right now.

http://www.revotechnik.com/products/revoStage3.aspx

[Undisputed]

No offence.. but reason i got the stage3 file was that it could be ready for the Gtrs..

but first i need TIP, and a boost gauge. gtrs will be the last

That's retarded. You're gonna need a helluva lot more than that to be at Stage 3 with a GTRS. Go and look at any of the threads that are currently running about BT's and you'll see what you need.

You don't even have the proper mods to be running at a full Stage 2 setup.
If you think all you need to be at Stage 3 is a TIP, boost gauge, injectors, GTRS, and a Forge 004 you're sadly mistaken. Do your homework man.

[A4p]

hehe. relax dude..

here is what required:

GTRS turbo setup

high flow exhaust manifold (required to run over 1.2bar boost)

decat or highflow cat

3.0” cat-back high flow exhaust

550cc injectors

Stock MAF housing (70mm ID) with stock sensor

Highflow turbo intake

3” cold air feed

FMIC capable of supporting 450bhp (stock IC is not efficient enough)

[Undisputed]

hehe. relax dude..

here is what required:

GTRS turbo setup

high flow exhaust manifold (required to run over 1.2bar boost)

decat or highflow cat

3.0” cat-back high flow exhaust

550cc injectors

Stock MAF housing (70mm ID) with stock sensor

Highflow turbo intake

3” cold air feed

FMIC capable of supporting 450bhp (stock IC is not efficient enough)

And you need all of that before you get the flash. You only have one thing on that list. You should have told them to flash you for free with the expectation that eventually you'd pay them.

[mike-2ptzero]

No offence.. but reason i got the stage3 file was that it could be ready for the Gtrs..

but first i need TIP, and a boost gauge. gtrs will be the last

The tune should have been done at the same time as putting in the GTRS turbo. Doing it way before is pointless and your just doing more harm then good. There is a good reason tuners have different staged tunes and that is to be used with the correct staged turbo.

So the fact is very simple, you should have waited to get the car flashed to stage 3 till you had the GTRS in your hand and ready to install it.

[Molotov]

you're going to kill your k03, so I suggest not boosting or maybe even driving the car until you get the parts. I hope you already ordered them and they're on their way... don't know what the wait is on those eliminators right now but it took me forever to get mine (high demand).

[A4p]

Well let's see what happens.. thanks ya all

[Molotov]

p.s. when you actually get those parts in there make sure you log log log. These things are reliable as hell, but you don't want to cut corners. So get yourself vag-com software/cable and a laptop if you don't have one and SPS3

[mike-2ptzero]

you're going to kill your k03, so I suggest not boosting or maybe even driving the car until you get the parts. I hope you already ordered them and they're on their way... don't know what the wait is on those eliminators right now but it took me forever to get mine (high demand).

Actually he is going to kill his engine, because the timing curve on the stage 3 is setup for a turbo that spools up much later then that K03 he has in the car.

[Undisputed]

Revo Stage 3 Softwarer + KO3 = Engine Meltdown

[Torqie]

Well let's see what happens.. thanks ya all

id have to say... you are a dumbass.. you wont comment on anything except tell people to calm down.. no one is freaking out because it is not their car they are going to ruin. they are trying to help you out. take it back to the shop where you got the tune and say that your car is not running right and you think you got the wrong tune... shit I dont know, but that was a pretty retarded thing to do... you have to work in stages like everyone has said.. I know this and im a complete fucktard when it comes to the engine and installin my own shit.

[Torqie]

oh yeah.. and I had to replace my motor for engine sludge from previous owner that was not covered under warrenty.. I can tell you after everything I had to get it was well over 10k with the labor. (engine, turbo, vent system, and I also had a new clutch put in cause the motor was out and so the labor was kind free) I am sure there was other stuff on the list cause it was around 4 pages long, but trust me GO GET RE TUNED

[dirtybrd]

It'll be fine.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

u know ur flooding ur engine with those 550cc injectors right? what were u thinking? if u got flashed correctly from the start it would have costed u $500 and then when the GTRS was ready $200 more. Why didn't u ask before u did this man?

[dirtybrd]

But if he stays out of the boost he'll be ok.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^hahahahahaha pretty much possible

[dirtybrd]

We all know that if he stays out of the boost, the ECU doesn't know what injs., turbo, etc are there. So just keep running the 550s and everything will be ok. Oh BTW, you might want to stock up on plugs, start saving for a new cat and new rings after those wash out and stop sealing.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

if u want to be super safe leave it in 2nd gear never shift up or down. that way it wont boost haha.

[A4p]

We all know that if he stays out of the boost, the ECU doesn't know what injs., turbo, etc are there. So just keep running the 550s and everything will be ok. Oh BTW, you might want to stock up on plugs, start saving for a new cat and new rings after those wash out and stop sealing.

I have changed the plugs to bkr7e with hitcachi E coils much smoother now (stripped one of the bolts).

ill just adjust the boost to stock...

[Undisputed]

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