Upgrading suspension and looking for opinions..

[Frizo]

I'm currently stg 2 and acquiring parts to go stg 3 by summer along with body work and the rest of my maint. I just bought the car 6 months ago at a really good price from a member on here and had it shipped my way but it definately needed work. From what I can tell it came with H&R springs on stock shocks and I need to do something about it. I'm guessing I could either go with some shocks like koni or bilestiens(sp), I love a low ride as I had h&r/koni on my GS but wanted the adjustability for the new england weather. What do yous think of these choices of CO's?

STaSIS streets
Vogtland
Tein SS

I hear good things about STaSIS and Vogtland on these cars but not much with the Tein's. I see the Tein SS has adjustability in dampness but I'm new to the S and havent seen any reviews. Any and all help is appreciated!

[kwn23]

I had vogtland coilovers on my previous B5 s4. Great product in my opinion. Couldn't have been more pleased.

[Frizo]

How many miles did you put on them?

[AudiHolicS4]

I had vogtland coilovers on my previous B5 s4. Great product in my opinion. Couldn't have been more pleased.

x2 on this statement^^^^ i have them now and i love them now i have never went with the strut/spring combo as i always bought coils on my previous cars but i love these ones the most

[Evilevo]

Whatever you do, DO NOT go with Tien. ABSOLUTE SHIT. Vogtland GT!!

[BITRBO]

Yeah, I was torn between the Vogtlands and the STaSiS myself, but eventually went with the SS's... I loved them at first, but the more I drive the more I wish they were just a little stiffer. I seem to notice the "float" more these days, esp. when cruising fast on the highway. I'll prolly switch to a set of GT's or Tracksports if/when I eventually track this car, but the SS are very nice for the streets.

[kwn23]

How many miles did you put on them?

They got about 60k that i know of until I got rid of the car, however still strong as ever when car was sold.

[WMi_S4]

Ummmm......Vogtland GT's

Only about three people on here support Teins........

[BlkdoutS4]

I've had my Vogtland GTs for about a month now and absolutely love them! awesome product. Way less body roll, not harsh on the street at all.

[haus4]

I have Vogs and I really liked them. No ass squat when taking off hard and good handling. Ride was some stiffer than stock, but enough to feel the difference. Def not like like those hondas u see bouncing around on every little bump.

[ThirdStrike]

tiens are cheap...fleabay cheap... ive only had experience with vogtlands on e46's but they seem to be in high standing with everyone I know that has them on a audi.

[98a4]

I'll die by KW.

INOX is unmatched in a 4 season climate IMO

[SilverStr33k]

tein is weaksauce, kw and stasis are pimp juice

[MacDaddy]

I like stasis for the price point and they they are using Koni Dampers. I'm running bone stock right now, but if i do upgrade, it will be stasis.

[ThirdStrike]

I like stasis for the price point and they they are using Koni Dampers & springs. I'm running bone stock right now, but if i do upgrade, it will be stasis.

and they are a PAIN in the ass to adjust. i want some h&r's

(ride quality is on point tho)

[AudiA4_20T]

and they are a PAIN in the ass to adjust. i want some h&r's

(ride quality is on point tho)

seriously, wtf were they thinking in that damper adjustment?

[BITRBO]

^Yeah, the STaSiS kits are nice cause they come pre-dampened and ride height adjusted. I had a set of adjustable Konis (almost identical) on my MKIV GTi, and wasn't as impressed as I am with these. You can literally just slap 'em on, get an alignment, and you're all set... All I've done to them since install is spray that lubricant on the shock rods every so often, and that's it!

edit: yes, the dampening adjustment feature is somewhat useless once the c/o's have been installed... Once must be sure they have it right the first time

[Number54]

Yeah, I was torn between the Vogtlands and the STaSiS myself, but eventually went with the SS's... I loved them at first, but the more I drive the more I wish they were just a little stiffer. I seem to notice the "float" more these days, esp. when cruising fast on the highway. I'll prolly switch to a set of GT's or Tracksports if/when I eventually track this car, but the SS are very nice for the streets.

Skip TrackSports. No good at the track. No good on the street. Jump straight to MotorSports if you are serious about tracking. Myself (and a lot of others) have made this mistake.

[BITRBO]

Skip TrackSports. No good at the track. No good on the street. Jump straight to MotorSports if you are serious about tracking. Myself (and a lot of others) have made this mistake.

Yeah, I know the TS's aren't exactly the ideal setup for the track, but they might be good for a weekend warrior or budget-minded enthusiest Unfortunately there's quite a difference in price between the Ohlins and the TS's, which makes it hard for some to "do it right the first time"... Believe me, IF I have the extra scratch when the time comes, I'll opt for the Ohlins but I also want a contingency plan

[ThirdStrike]

seriously, wtf were they thinking in that damper adjustment?

dude i dont even have balls enough to mess with that. when i called them they warned me not to.
i was talking the ride height adjustment. (which they also advised against adjusting)
the spinny things dont have enough notches for the wrench to grab. takes FOREVER to adjust

[MacDaddy]

you shouldn't be raising and lowering your car all the time anyway, unless you get an alignment right after. its incredibly easy to change your toe enough to cause uneven tire wear by making even the smallest height adjustment. anyone who has used an alignment machine will tell you the same thing.

[lonestar22]

very true, and these cars are a pain in the A$$ to align, not the rears as much as the fronts

[ThirdStrike]

you shouldn't be raising and lowering your car all the time anyway, unless you get an alignment right after. its incredibly easy to change your toe enough to cause uneven tire wear by making even the smallest height adjustment. anyone who has used an alignment machine will tell you the same thing.

man you lecture with the best of em.. lol

[TPC303]

PSS9's

[Number54]

Yeah, I know the TS's aren't exactly the ideal setup for the track, but they might be good for a weekend warrior or budget-minded enthusiest Unfortunately there's quite a difference in price between the Ohlins and the TS's, which makes it hard for some to "do it right the first time"... Believe me, IF I have the extra scratch when the time comes, I'll opt for the Ohlins but I also want a contingency plan

Yup, MSs are hella expensive. If I were to do it all again, and didn't have the cash for MSs (or didn't track much), here's what I'd do... Get something a bit more street oriented to start with. Perhaps GTs or SSs. Enjoy that for a bit. Then throw on an h-sport rear bar (perhaps the front bar is good with those coilovers too, I dunno). Enjoy that for a bit. Finally get a STaSIS center diff.

You'd start off with a nice ride. Then improve the handling a bunch with the bar. Then get some more rear bias for track. Seems like you'd get some nice improvements with minimal investment.