New to the S4 Modding, could use some advice.

[MrFett]

Just got my dream 2015 S4 and am looking to do the following to start (its simple stuff)

Front Grille from - http://www.modbargains.com/Black-Chrome-Gloss-Mesh-Honeycomb-RS4-Style-Grille-Audi-B85-A4-S4.htm
Intake - http://www.modbargains.com/awe-tuning-s-flo-intake-audi-b8-s4-s5-30t.htm
Exhaust- http://www.modbargains.com/awe-tuning-track-edition-audi-b8-s4.htm
Possible Rims- http://www.modbargains.com/VMR-V710-Wheels-Gunmetal-Audi-5x112.htm

If anyone has better suggestions for rims under 1k if possible that would be awesome. Also with the Front Grille, they said custom mount S4 badging would be required since they dont provide it on that grille. Anyone know of one that may work with it?

Also Future projects would be a tune and pulley etc. I have way more reading and getting used to the car first.

Thanks everyone for any tips or links to stuff I may like.

-James

[Rodizzle]

As far as grills , I love the eBay RS grills with the Quattro Logo. I personally bought it and recommend it . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180503/396884e2340128b90065254d1ba82bcb.jpg




Welcome to the Audi community

[tar]

Wheels not rims. This has to stop.

Look for something used and flow formed as sticking with heavy wheels like the v710 is meh. Search on that for correct size I'd even say wait till you have read and looked around more.

As for the awe intake no opinion as most run roceuro(avoid), ecs, usp, or cts ones or just keep stock box and maybe mod it.(search for the mod)
Id do ie intake or ecs.

Exhaust- do whatever you like sound of as it adds no gains to car. Awe touring is most popular, I prefer the miltek sound tho.

For grille check out stone carbon on eBay he sells good quality grilles like the Quattro one above. And a user here sells adapters for the s4 badge. I prefer the oem grille personally.

[nick0188]

I’d go with the touring instead of the track exhaust. I like really loud things, but the track exhaust is very droney from 2-3k RPM.


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[tar]

^Agree

forsure do touring over track. Track sounds so bad in cabin.

[jimrobbington]

Wheels not rims. This has to stop.

Haha beat me to it.

How about you skip the over priced exhaust, go custom, and use that extra $1k you just saved for a tune right away.



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[Rodizzle]

Haha beat me to it.

How about you skip the over priced exhaust, go custom, and use that extra $1k you just saved for a tune right away.



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I kinda of agree too , 1800 for Something that doesn’t give you any performance gain. Do yourself a ex pipes an some tips and call it a day. It will have a nice rumble to it. And with the rest of your cash stage up .


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[dculber]

Wheels not rims. This has to stop.
wow just a little uptight about this? I’m nearing late 40’s and as long as I can remember we simply called them “rims” ever since I was a kid. Yes I understand that the outer lip portion is “the rim”, but why does it bother you so much? There’s a term and its called slang. Question do you always use the word tissue or do you simply say “can I have a Kleenex?” Technically it’s a tissue...


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[jimrobbington]

https://youtu.be/BA-KEy8Qr9I

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[jimrobbington]

wow just a little uptight about this? I’m nearing late 40’s and as long as I can remember we simply called them “rims” ever since I was a kid. Yes I understand that the outer lip portion is “the rim”, but why does it bother you so much? There’s a term and its called slang. Question do you always use the word tissue or do you simply say “can I have a Kleenex?” Technically it’s a tissue...


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[kjeeper10]

Advanti wheels were around $1100 flow formed and light weight. 19x9.5 is at 22 lbs.

Catalan

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180503/df5098e50464bf98e10b8fb1456324e9.jpg

[kjeeper10]

Well i hate when people call tires wheels so.. lol

[dculber]

because the same people call their cars "whips" and I hate that too lol

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But do you post that people need to stop saying it? No because it’s not going to stop anyone


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[tar]

because the same people call their cars "whips" and I hate that too lol

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This.
we need to get ahead of it so it doesnt become acceptable like windshield banners seem to have done. If it upsets a few 2017/18 members so be it.

[jimrobbington]

But do you post that people need to stop saying it? No because it’s not going to stop anyone


Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)Lol. I hate lots of things people will never stop saying. Like using "their" instead of "they're", or "could of" instead of "could have". But I can always call them out on it whether it helps or not. Haha

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[AFR1485]

Welcome to the B8 community. I’d say look into the clear corner reflectors of you’re brave enough to open the headlight housing. I’d also strongly advise against the track exhaust unless your goal is to be loud like a Honda. If you want more SC whine I’d suggest an open air box like the on from Integrated Engineering. It probably has a higher IAT but that only matters if you’re racing the car.


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[fmzip]

As far as grills , I love the eBay RS grills with the Quattro Logo. I personally bought it and recommend it . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180503/396884e2340128b90065254d1ba82bcb.jpg




Welcome to the Audi community

Agreed on the grille....as far as attaching the badge, contact this member, he makes a clip but he will need to know what grille you ultimately decide on https://www.audizine.com/forum/member.php/361889-maty360414

Awe touring exhaust if you prefer to keep your hearing in check. Track exhaust will be way loud! But I'd put that money towards a Stage 2 tune!

[BozMan-S4]

Get the RS bumper conversion for a little more. It has the grill and looks much more natural/clean than retrofit. My mind set when modding was wait to buy the best. If you need to save a little longer then do it, I see so many rush to buy the cheapest version of something for these cars. I know we all view it different but every time I use discipline and wait...I’m very happy I did. When I first bought the car I had a quick list of mods I wanted based on reading. Fast forward 5-6months and that list 100% changed. The more you read you will find the right mods vs most advertised. In the end congrats on the Audi!

I bought foundational mods first:
1st: Winter & Summer tires, Sways, Links, AMS Cooler, Inserts, Alu Kreuz and Control arm Brace
2nd: Carbon cleaning TB and Intake Port, Summer Wheels, RS4 bumper conversion, Milltek exhaust, ECS Intake, Braking should be here too but didn’t and should have
3rd: Stage 2 ECU/TCU, SC Pulley, New Plugs correctly gapped and new coils.
4th: haven’t got here yet but prob Dual Pulley, Water/Meth and E85 tune w/ P3 gauge and Ethanol sensor.

Once I added more power the car was ready to handle it vs overpowering stock items. I’m sure some might comment on my order of purchases but this seemed like the logical approach to a fast car that doesn’t suffer while going fast. So many say they don’t drive aggressively but at the same time their car is tuned...tuning equals aggressive don’t fool yourself lol.

Lastly, sorry long post, I waited for sales and relentlessly searched classifieds to find the parts I wanted without paying full retail. Keep an eye out for group buys too, I jumped on the EPL w/ AMS GB and saved a ton there. There are vendors on AZ that will work with you too...take no price at face value, with a little work and patience you will better your buck. Good luck and believe me it seemed overwhelming but small bites gets you to the car you want.

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[MrFett]

Wheels not rims. This has to stop.

Look for something used and flow formed as sticking with heavy wheels like the v710 is meh. Search on that for correct size I'd even say wait till you have read and looked around more.

As for the awe intake no opinion as most run roceuro(avoid), ecs, usp, or cts ones or just keep stock box and maybe mod it.(search for the mod)
Id do ie intake or ecs.

Exhaust- do whatever you like sound of as it adds no gains to car. Awe touring is most popular, I prefer the miltek sound tho.

For grille check out stone carbon on eBay he sells good quality grilles like the Quattro one above. And a user here sells adapters for the s4 badge. I prefer the oem grille personally.

Its funny because I always use the term wheels when referring to just that. But normally I am talking to people who use the term Rims and when I say wheels they are like "but you already have nice ones".. I forgot I am among car people now.

[S4'ed]

Eurocode front and rear sway bars.
CR-15 upper chassis brace.
An ECU Tune.
Then you can spend money on cosmetic stuff.....

[MrFett]

Eurocode front and rear sway bars.
CR-15 upper chassis brace.
An ECU Tune.
Then you can spend money on cosmetic stuff.....

Do you mind linking me to some of the ones you got? Still new to the car mod scene since I just switched over from modding my truck.

[fmzip]

Do you mind linking me to some of the ones you got? Still new to the car mod scene since I just switched over from modding my truck.

You really don't need a front sway, try just the rear but I would do that third in order of suspension:

3) https://store.034motorsport.com/034motorsport-adjustable-solid-rear-sway-bar-b8-b8-5-audi-a4-s4-rs4-a5-s5-rs5.html

This is a great piece:

2) https://www.ecodetuning.com/EC0101-0201-eurocode-alu-kreuz-billet-aluminum-drivetrain-stabilizer.html

But do this one before the ALU Kreuz

1) https://eurozonetuning.com/products/canyon-run-cr-15-front-strut-tower-brace-b8-b8-5-a4-s4-a5-s5-rs5


As far as a tune:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/713088-EPL-Your-source-for-Stage-1-Stage-2-TCU-Dual-Pulley-E85-100-octane-amp-more!

You can go Stage 1 with just a software flash you can do at home. Stage 2 requires a pulley installed. You can find a pre-owned tune in the classifieds

[TEB]

Wheels not rims. This has to stop.

This cannot be stated enough. Sort of in the same category as a "motor," "rear fender" or "front quarter panel" -- but much worse.

[S4'ed]

Do you mind linking me to some of the ones you got? Still new to the car mod scene since I just switched over from modding my truck.

https://www.ecodetuning.com/EC0202-0101R-eurocode-tuning-uss-adjustable-sway-bar-set-f-r-b8-b8-5.html
Get front and rear bars. Many people who say "..you only need the rear bar.." have never tried both. The factory endlinks (plastic body & rubber bushings) are fine, rather than expensive all-metal endlinks that wear-out and clunk after a year. Get the MOOG endlinks (metal body and polyurethane bushings) if you want a little better performance versus the factory endlinks.
http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k750359
http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k750361


APR Stage-1 tune
https://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_30tfsi_b85s4.html

And when you get tired of the black brake dust, install Akebono ceramic pads.

In my opinion (only based on my engineering judgement) the Alu Kreuz has very little benefit compared to what it costs.....the factory lower subframe/X-Brace and frame-rails are not exactly flimsy....the $160 CR-15 upper-brace yields more improvement in chassis rigidity.

[fmzip]

https://www.ecodetuning.com/EC0202-0101R-eurocode-tuning-uss-adjustable-sway-bar-set-f-r-b8-b8-5.html
Get front and rear bars. Many people who say "..you only need the rear bar.." have never tried both. The factory endlinks (plastic body & rubber bushings) are fine, rather than expensive all-metal endlinks that wear-out and clunk after a year. Get the MOOG endlinks (metal body and polyurethane bushings) if you want a little better performance versus the factory endlinks.

APR Stage-1 tune
https://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_30tfsi_b85s4.html

Agreed with the endlinks. You can stay stock if still new , then get Moog.

I'd still suggest for the OP a rear sway bar first to see how you like the feel and if it gives you the result you are looking for. It did for me. As stated, I will never know what I am missing without a front but I am not looking for more. It achieved what I was looking for to reduce understeer. A bigger front would only increase it, again.

[BozMan-S4]

I installed front and rear USS bars. I set them to stiff in the rear and soft in the front. I never ran just rear but I can say my setup just keeps digging in the corners, not to mention limiting pull/body roll. You can certainly feel the difference and the ride is still very comfortable imo. I guess if you are pushing the car to the point it’s breaking loose then maybe rear is all you want. I’ve taken 25mph on ramps at 50-60mph and felt very comfortable. I don’t track so can’t speak to that.


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[MooreS4]

Niche makes pretty nice wheels like the Targa and Misano. I'm partial to the Misanos myself, they both can be had for under 1000 on a few sites.

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[Schadenfreude]

Lol. I hate lots of things people will never stop saying. Like using "their" instead of "they're", or "could of" instead of "could have". But I can always call them out on it whether it helps or not. Haha

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Don't forget saying "member" instead of remember. It irritates my wife to no end but I will blurt out "remember" immediately no matter who we are talking to

[jimrobbington]

Don't forget saying "member" instead of remember. It irritates my wife to no end but I will blurt out "remember" immediately no matter who we are talking toExpecially!

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[MN Blue S4]

and then there is always the classic "irregardless".....................

[fmzip]

and then there is always the classic "irregardless".....................

You will hate this.....


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

"Is irregardless a word?
Irregardless was popularized in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its increasingly widespread spoken use called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead."

[blackout85]

[QUOTE=fmzip;13089072]Agreed with the endlinks. You can stay stock if still new , then get Moog.


Re: MOOG endlinks...maybe a really stupid question but why are the Moog endlinks so cheap, so cheap looking, and don't look at all like other endlinks (ie: 034) that sell for much more. Moog website has them for 30 bucks for the rear endlinks. Is that literally all you need (plus sway bar obv) or am I missing some other part/thinking about this way too much lol?
Thanks [emoji16]

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[tar]

[QUOTE=fmzip;13089072]Agreed with the endlinks. You can stay stock if still new , then get Moog.


Re: MOOG endlinks...maybe a really stupid question but why are the Moog endlinks so cheap, so cheap looking, and don't look at all like other endlinks (ie: 034) that sell for much more. Moog website has them for 30 bucks for the rear endlinks. Is that literally all you need (plus sway bar obv) or am I missing some other part/thinking about this way too much lol?
Thanks [emoji16]

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034/eurocode are spherical and really only useful for track cars. They blow out and rattle a lot.

[wurldfamuz]

Lol. I hate lots of things people will never stop saying. Like using "their" instead of "they're", or "could of" instead of "could have". But I can always call them out on it whether it helps or not. Haha

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Saying their instead of they're or could of instead could've is just bad/wrong grammar. Calling wheels rims is more using the wrong term but essentially referring to the same thing.

[RHawk]

Saying their instead of they're or could of instead could've is just bad/wrong grammar. Calling wheels rims is more using the wrong term but essentially referring to the same thing.I think the grammar lesson should end here. He called them rims, we understood what he meant, someone disliked the term 'rims', 4 pages later we barely got anywhere. But I think we should open a grammar thread because I do find some of these replies hilarious.

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[MSq5]

[QUOTE=fmzip;13089072]Agreed with the endlinks. You can stay stock if still new , then get Moog.


Re: MOOG endlinks...maybe a really stupid question but why are the Moog endlinks so cheap, so cheap looking, and don't look at all like other endlinks (ie: 034) that sell for much more. Moog website has them for 30 bucks for the rear endlinks. Is that literally all you need (plus sway bar obv) or am I missing some other part/thinking about this way too much lol?
Thanks [emoji16]



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Looks can be deceiving. The Moog "Problem Solver" end links are a timeless (old school) design that is proven. They just last. One reason is that they have real zerk grease fittings on metal cups around internal balls that are metal. They come almost dry, so be sure to grease them up before or right after the install. As long as you keep the grease cups filled and shoot a bit of grease in from time-to-time to push our any water that might get in there, they will probably outlast the car.

To be honest my car is new, so it still has the OEM links. But on every other platform, including very high performance cars, they hold up extremely well.

[BozMan-S4]

Any updates on progress? Always like to see which way people go with their setups. 1000 ways to do it...how did you? Lol


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[TristanT14]

This.
we need to get ahead of it so it doesnt become acceptable like windshield banners seem to have done. If it upsets a few 2017/18 members so be it.

Good luck getting ahead of it, seems like my entire school calls cars whips now and everyone loves to say "I got the foreign or I got a foreign whip" it sounds so dumb hearing it in person. Also for the owner of the thread I would agree with others about going with the AWE touring, if not loud enough non resonated down pipes. However if you're not looking to spend that kind of money on the exhaust there are a lot cheaper options on the forums, many people have done different things with their exhaust and they sound really good, search in the forums for custom exhaust or something similar to that. Spend that extra money you saved on a tune if you go that route! Also definitely get a new intake, I recommend Roc Euro or APR intake. Roc Euro will take probably a month or two to get to you but if you're looking for the loudest SC whine Roc Euro is the way to go.

[tar]

Good luck getting ahead of it, seems like my entire school calls cars whips now and everyone loves to say "I got the foreign or I got a foreign whip" it sounds so dumb hearing it in person. Also for the owner of the thread I would agree with others about going with the AWE touring, if not loud enough non resonated down pipes. However if you're not looking to spend that kind of money on the exhaust there are a lot cheaper options on the forums, many people have done different things with their exhaust and they sound really good, search in the forums for custom exhaust or something similar to that. Spend that extra money you saved on a tune if you go that route! Also definitely get a new intake, I recommend Roc Euro or APR intake. Roc Euro will take probably a month or two to get to you but if you're looking for the loudest SC whine Roc Euro is the way to go.

Your school is children tho so they carry no value.

The kids saying whips, rims ect will either be locked up, have a bad drug problem meth, coke, pills ECT or will have many children by the time they are 25 so they wont be able to afford rims or whips. Sad to say but it's pretty true.

[TristanT14]

Your school is children tho so they carry no value.

The kids saying whips, rims ect will either be locked up, have a bad drug problem meth, coke, pills ECT or will have many children by the time they are 25 so they wont be able to afford rims or whips. Sad to say but it's pretty true.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Ive been offered many different drugs within my years at high school and its going to be sad to see the people who didn't do too well be even worse in the long run. rip

[Yocatfapper]

You really don't need a front sway, try just the rear but I would do that third in order of suspension:

3) https://store.034motorsport.com/034motorsport-adjustable-solid-rear-sway-bar-b8-b8-5-audi-a4-s4-rs4-a5-s5-rs5.html

This is a great piece:

2) https://www.ecodetuning.com/EC0101-0201-eurocode-alu-kreuz-billet-aluminum-drivetrain-stabilizer.html

But do this one before the ALU Kreuz

1) https://eurozonetuning.com/products/canyon-run-cr-15-front-strut-tower-brace-b8-b8-5-a4-s4-a5-s5-rs5


As far as a tune:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/713088-EPL-Your-source-for-Stage-1-Stage-2-TCU-Dual-Pulley-E85-100-octane-amp-more!

You can go Stage 1 with just a software flash you can do at home. Stage 2 requires a pulley installed. You can find a pre-owned tune in the classifieds

Does that front strut tower brace make the ride any harsher?

[kjeeper10]

Does that front strut tower brace make the ride any harsher?

It does make it a little stiffer but it helps in other ways.

[fmzip]

It does make it a little stiffer but it helps in other ways.


Agreed, certainly not harsh

[Poodini]

Get the RS bumper conversion for a little more. It has the grill and looks much more natural/clean than retrofit. My mind set when modding was wait to buy the best. If you need to save a little longer then do it, I see so many rush to buy the cheapest version of something for these cars. I know we all view it different but every time I use discipline and wait...I’m very happy I did. When I first bought the car I had a quick list of mods I wanted based on reading. Fast forward 5-6months and that list 100% changed. The more you read you will find the right mods vs most advertised. In the end congrats on the Audi!

I bought foundational mods first:
1st: Winter & Summer tires, Sways, Links, AMS Cooler, Inserts, Alu Kreuz and Control arm Brace
2nd: Carbon cleaning TB and Intake Port, Summer Wheels, RS4 bumper conversion, Milltek exhaust, ECS Intake, Braking should be here too but didn’t and should have
3rd: Stage 2 ECU/TCU, SC Pulley, New Plugs correctly gapped and new coils.
4th: haven’t got here yet but prob Dual Pulley, Water/Meth and E85 tune w/ P3 gauge and Ethanol sensor.

Once I added more power the car was ready to handle it vs overpowering stock items. I’m sure some might comment on my order of purchases but this seemed like the logical approach to a fast car that doesn’t suffer while going fast. So many say they don’t drive aggressively but at the same time their car is tuned...tuning equals aggressive don’t fool yourself lol.

Lastly, sorry long post, I waited for sales and relentlessly searched classifieds to find the parts I wanted without paying full retail. Keep an eye out for group buys too, I jumped on the EPL w/ AMS GB and saved a ton there. There are vendors on AZ that will work with you too...take no price at face value, with a little work and patience you will better your buck. Good luck and believe me it seemed overwhelming but small bites gets you to the car you want.

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[emoji1376][emoji1376][emoji1376] Couldn’t have said it better myself! I went HAM with the modding over the past 3 years and, like you’ve stated, a good majority of the parts were purchased either on sale, used/very good condition, group buy, etc. It will definitely save you hundreds, if not thousands once you start adding it up. Researching and patience are key.


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[Sroyval96]

Your school is children tho so they carry no value.

The kids saying whips, rims ect will either be locked up, have a bad drug problem meth, coke, pills ECT or will have many children by the time they are 25 so they wont be able to afford rims or whips. Sad to say but it's pretty true.

Truthfully that is pretty arrogant to say, considering the fact that i use words such as "Foreign" & "Whips" yet:

1) Am 21 Years old
2) Have a 2014 S4 with 24,000 miles that i purchased myself
3) Already in a full time Career at a brokerage with multiple real estate licenses
4) No Kids
5) Never used drugs and never will.
6) Have never been "Locked up"

Just because someone speaks illiterately, does not mean that they will be a screw up. If your argument were true then i would not be where i am today. Nor would most of the people i know.

[eswift]

https://www.ecodetuning.com/EC0202-0101R-eurocode-tuning-uss-adjustable-sway-bar-set-f-r-b8-b8-5.html
Get front and rear bars. Many people who say "..you only need the rear bar.." have never tried both. The factory endlinks (plastic body & rubber bushings) are fine, rather than expensive all-metal endlinks that wear-out and clunk after a year. Get the MOOG endlinks (metal body and polyurethane bushings) if you want a little better performance versus the factory endlinks.
http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k750359
http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k750361


APR Stage-1 tune
https://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_30tfsi_b85s4.html

And when you get tired of the black brake dust, install Akebono ceramic pads.

In my opinion (only based on my engineering judgement) the Alu Kreuz has very little benefit compared to what it costs.....the factory lower subframe/X-Brace and frame-rails are not exactly flimsy....the $160 CR-15 upper-brace yields more improvement in chassis rigidity.

So you're another person claiming that the AK is overstated. I'm slapping on the CR15 myself before i blow a ton of money (for what it is, seriously) on the AK... People swear by it though. wish i had a buddy with the same car bone stock with only AK added to try lol

[Morritse]

I agree with custom on the exhaust. You can get a sweet sound for a couple hundred bucks.

[Boston_S4]

Hey man! I just saw this. For the front bumper, I painted the front grille and fog light mesh auto paint black and used 2k clear coat. While the bumper was off I also tinted the fog lights. Looks amazing and I get tons of compliments. The chrome accents make the car look much wider.

Checkout @Boston_S4 on instagram for more ideas.

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[Yocatfapper]

You really don't need a front sway, try just the rear but I would do that third in order of suspension:

3) https://store.034motorsport.com/034motorsport-adjustable-solid-rear-sway-bar-b8-b8-5-audi-a4-s4-rs4-a5-s5-rs5.html

This is a great piece:

2) https://www.ecodetuning.com/EC0101-0201-eurocode-alu-kreuz-billet-aluminum-drivetrain-stabilizer.html

But do this one before the ALU Kreuz

1) https://eurozonetuning.com/products/canyon-run-cr-15-front-strut-tower-brace-b8-b8-5-a4-s4-a5-s5-rs5


As far as a tune:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/713088-EPL-Your-source-for-Stage-1-Stage-2-TCU-Dual-Pulley-E85-100-octane-amp-more!

You can go Stage 1 with just a software flash you can do at home. Stage 2 requires a pulley installed. You can find a pre-owned tune in the classifieds

Any reason you suggest the alu kruz instead of the 034 xbrace?

[seattleaudi]

Why not just buy a car that is fast enough for you from the get go?

[fmzip]

Any reason you suggest the alu kruz instead of the 034 xbrace?

It's considerably less.....