Cheapest Q5 caliper source??

[chilort]

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Q5 caliper. I cannot seem to source these other than new and at new prices. Is there a hidden / secret source for these?

[Phil Dammit]

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Q5 caliper. I cannot seem to source these other than new and at new prices. Is there a hidden / secret source for these?New to the S4 game, advantageous to Q5 calipers? How much larger over stock? Front and rear. I'm a newb who doesn have the time to research

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[whiped]

New to the S4 game, advantageous to Q5 calipers? How much larger over stock? Front and rear. I'm a newb who doesn have the time to research

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Same size rotors, Q5 used a 4 pot caliper where the S4 has floating single pot.

[administerturbo]

ECS has solid prices on them. I needed rotors anyway, so their kit saved me some money.

[austerity]

Ordered mine from the ECS kit as well. The wave rotors are gorgeous, and the kit's on sale right now.

[Phil.Lmbrt]

ECS has solid prices on them. I needed rotors anyway, so their kit saved me some money.

Hasn't ECS' brake rotors quality been questionnable? I remember reading this a while ago. I'm curious about your opinion on these?

[Gusman1]

I saw this on the FB page.
Base Macan calipers are identical to the Q5. I believe you can get them for like $400.

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[tar]

Hasn't ECS' brake rotors quality been questionnable? I remember reading this a while ago. I'm curious about your opinion on these?

Mine are fine on s4 and also run ecs rotors on my b5. Never had a issue.

Run the wave 2piece ones on b8 with q5 calipers. No complaints but its defiantly not a real bbk, more how the car should have been stock.

[Works2shoot]

New to the S4 game, advantageous to Q5 calipers? How much larger over stock? Front and rear. I'm a newb who doesn have the time to research

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If you really didn't have time, you would have just googled "B8 S4 Q5 Calipers," vs a 27-word post, and found everything you needed. You're just lazy.


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[austerity]

Mine are fine on s4 and also run ecs rotors on my b5. Never had a issue.

Run the wave 2piece ones on b8 with q5 calipers. No complaints but its defiantly not a real bbk, more how the car should have been stock.

that was the appeal for me, personally.

[Phil Dammit]

If you really didn't have time, you would have just googled "B8 S4 Q5 Calipers," vs a 27-word post, and found everything you needed. You're just lazy.


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[850tgul]

I saw this on the FB page.
Base Macan calipers are identical to the Q5. I believe you can get them for like $400.

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First I’ve seen of this. If this is confirmed you piece together the same kit as ECS for a few hundred less.

[Phil Dammit]

I saw this on the FB page.
Base Macan calipers are identical to the Q5. I believe you can get them for like $400.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/24347606553b730f6ddb4bd1cf2cf99d.jpg

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/67ee759ebf0da0df16a705aa4a60660e.jpgSpeaking of calipers? What are you guys doing for respray? Wet or powder? Anyone sourcing seal kits for the calipers if they are doing powder?

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[A4x]

Wow nice find. If confirmed, this would be an amazing deal for 2 new calipers.

Cheapest I've found those part numbers is $220 each.

How are Porsche calipers only $220?! Cheaper owning Porsche than Audi!

https://www.sunsetporscheparts.com/oem-parts/porsche-fixed-calliper-95b615124f
https://www.porschepartsmerriam.com/oem-parts/porsche-fixed-calliper-95b615123f

[toastsauce]

Do people commonly only upgrade the fronts? Do people do Both? Isn't there brake bias to keep?

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[trip'n]

If you go BBK in the front you should always upgrade the rear, you can get some "wag" under hard or emergency stopping if the balance is a bit off for sure

[LINDW4LL]

Do people commonly only upgrade the fronts? Do people do Both? Isn't there brake bias to keep?

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Since the rear calipers have the electronic E-brake built in, upgrading the caliper/rotor isn't really practical on the B8s.

Truthfully the 3.0T Q5 (or Macan, as seen above) won't alter the bias significantly. The piston area of the Brembo setup is only about 6% more than stock, and though there's some further increase in effective bias due to less deflection and pressure being applied more efficiently to the rotor, the bias shift isn't drastic. You could throw a more aggressive pad in the rear to even it out.

[chilort]

I saw this on the FB page.
Base Macan calipers are identical to the Q5. I believe you can get them for like $400.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/24347606553b730f6ddb4bd1cf2cf99d.jpg

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You are a god among men!

[Works2shoot]

Feel better now that you've got your internet angers out?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171212/95baef521647a1aa9220b1b5616ad878.jpg

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Not mad. You felt the need to point out that you were too busy to do a simple search. I hopefully showed you that actually searching would have been less time and effort.


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[Gusman1]

You are a god among men!

Just trying to help the community out [up]

[Phil Dammit]

Not mad. You felt the need to point out that you were too busy to do a simple search. I hopefully showed you that actually searching would have been less time and effort.


Sent from my iPad using TapatalkNot even close. But keep fightin the good fight #thumbsup

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[Works2shoot]

Not even close. But keep fightin the good fight #thumbsup

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What?

[A4x]

I saw this on the FB page.
Base Macan calipers are identical to the Q5. I believe you can get them for like $400.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/24347606553b730f6ddb4bd1cf2cf99d.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/66a075879238f5b0f92ea0ad65c6a6d0.jpg

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So are these a direct bolt on? I don't think ECS has them, but other sites seem to for $220 each.

[tar]

If same as q5 like stated yes direct bolt on

[tar]

Speaking of calipers? What are you guys doing for respray? Wet or powder? Anyone sourcing seal kits for the calipers if they are doing powder?

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I used g2 caliper paint. Worked fine. Look fine. Car is a daily so I was cool with 8-9 out of 10. Plus I didnt 2want to dismantle new calipers for powder coat and 50bucks front/rear vs 200ish for coating no idea really what cost would be.
If I had gone bigger I woulda done coating tho.

[Gusman1]

So are these a direct bolt on? I don't think ECS has them, but other sites seem to for $220 each.

They are direct bolt on. Couple more pics

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[bakedziti]

They are direct bolt on.

What size rotors did you use?

EDIT: I overlooked an earlier post that said these calipers use the same size rotor as the s4, or a 345mm.

[mcjim]

Is there a market with the A4 crowd for the S4 calipers? Thinking this may not be an overly expensive upgrade if I can sell my S4 calipers and upgrade to these.

[CollecTTor]

Not even close. But keep fightin the good fight #thumbsup


No, I think he nailed it. You're lazy, and need to be spoon fed, and are more concerned with E-cred than finding the answer. You've already proven us correct.

Now who would one contact to have these actually coated? Anyone have experience with a coater specifically doing calipers? G2 and the likes aren't up to snuff based on my experience unless you just want to have color with no concern for finish.

[Phil Dammit]

No, I think he nailed it. You're lazy, and need to be spoon fed, and are more concerned with E-cred than finding the answer. You've already proven us correct.

Now who would one contact to have these actually coated? Anyone have experience with a coater specifically doing calipers? G2 and the likes aren't up to snuff based on my experience unless you just want to have color with no concern for finish.

Oooo the trolls run deep in this thread.

To answer your ill researched question. Tiger Drylac powder has worked fine on various caliper rebuilds that our powder shop has performed. Personally went gold on my 954's without any issues. 4k+ miles on them. With that said, sourcing seal kits was easy for a decade+ old liter bike vs that of a german luxury sports brand. Also have concerns on what pricing would be for said seals.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171212/3629c7bbd92eecc393849b664f1737de.jpg

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[A4x]

Is there a market with the A4 crowd for the S4 calipers? Thinking this may not be an overly expensive upgrade if I can sell my S4 calipers and upgrade to these.

I think the S4 calipers dont represent much of an upgrade for us. They allow for a larger rotor but overall they are the same single piston heavy caliper. I think most A4 guys who do any research would want to pickup the Q5 4 piston Brembos.

[bakedziti]

Is there a market with the A4 crowd for the S4 calipers? Thinking this may not be an overly expensive upgrade if I can sell my S4 calipers and upgrade to these.

I can't speak for everyone, but personally if I am going through the trouble of swapping calipers and adding larger rotors, I would choose something with more than a single piston. B8 a4s are equipped with 320mm rotors with a single piston calipers up front. While this is only my opinion, there's a buyer for everything.

[CollecTTor]

Oooo the trolls run deep in this thread.

To answer your ill researched question. Tiger Drylac powder has worked fine on various caliper rebuilds that our powder shop has performed. Personally went gold on my 954's without any issues. 4k+ miles on them. With that said, sourcing seal kits was easy for a decade+ old liter bike vs that of a german luxury sports brand. Also have concerns on what pricing would be for said seals.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171212/3629c7bbd92eecc393849b664f1737de.jpg

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So you don't even know what troll means either? [rolleyes] And you didn't answer my question. You mentioned a powder, not a shop specializing in calipers. Try again?

PS your bike pic isn't really relevant.

[chilort]

Wow nice find. If confirmed, this would be an amazing deal for 2 new calipers.

Cheapest I've found those part numbers is $220 each.

How are Porsche calipers only $220?! Cheaper owning Porsche than Audi!

https://www.sunsetporscheparts.com/oem-parts/porsche-fixed-calliper-95b615124f
https://www.porschepartsmerriam.com/oem-parts/porsche-fixed-calliper-95b615123f


Are either of these places legit? Sorry, I don't own a Porsche and lack the background knowledge. If so, I'm totally in.

As for questions about rotors, I've got a set of ECS Geomet slotted rotors. I didn't like the feel of the slots. Also, they felt like they had warped. I bought a set of Apikol 2-piece rotors. I had them on my car for 3 years (I'm at 115,000 miles now) and they warped. I put the ECS back on (as I'd put them on the shelf when my Apikols arrived) and they are warped but less so than the Apikols. I've moved, changed jobs, bought and sold a house, have a new baby on the way, etc. As soon as I can come up for air I'll have the Apikols turned (my old Audi dealership said they had plenty of meat left on them). I'm hoping a 4 pot rotor will help with my problem with warping rotors (I've been hell on brakes since my teen years).

[Phil Dammit]

So you don't even know what troll means either? [rolleyes] And you didn't answer my question. You mentioned a powder, not a shop specializing in calipers. Try again?

PS your bike pic isn't really relevant.Eh, best pics I currently have from respraying the calipers. Btw, never said we specialized ;). However Tiger Drylac powder has held up to the abuse and high temps.

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[bhvrdr]

Are either of these places legit? Sorry, I don't own a Porsche and lack the background knowledge. If so, I'm totally in.

As for questions about rotors, I've got a set of ECS Geomet slotted rotors. I didn't like the feel of the slots. Also, they felt like they had warped. I bought a set of Apikol 2-piece rotors. I had them on my car for 3 years (I'm at 115,000 miles now) and they warped. I put the ECS back on (as I'd put them on the shelf when my Apikols arrived) and they are warped but less so than the Apikols. I've moved, changed jobs, bought and sold a house, have a new baby on the way, etc. As soon as I can come up for air I'll have the Apikols turned (my old Audi dealership said they had plenty of meat left on them). I'm hoping a 4 pot rotor will help with my problem with warping rotors (I've been hell on brakes since my teen years).

They are actual porsche dealerships - merriam. Theres also suncoast porsche that does online. THeres a ton of places that have those calipers at that price point of around $225.

Mike

[Phil Dammit]

They are actual porsche dealerships - merriam. Theres also suncoast porsche that does online. THeres a ton of places that have those calipers at that price point of around $225.

MikeMy minds blown away by this pricing. Looks like one can source rebuild seal kits from 20-40 bones. Know what my first mod will be.

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[A4x]

My minds blown away by this pricing. Looks like one can source rebuild seal kits from 20-40 bones. Know what my first mod will be.

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Link?

This is necessary only if powdercoating, right?

[SleeperCar]

Are either of these places legit? Sorry, I don't own a Porsche and lack the background knowledge. If so, I'm totally in.

As for questions about rotors, I've got a set of ECS Geomet slotted rotors. I didn't like the feel of the slots. Also, they felt like they had warped. I bought a set of Apikol 2-piece rotors. I had them on my car for 3 years (I'm at 115,000 miles now) and they warped. I put the ECS back on (as I'd put them on the shelf when my Apikols arrived) and they are warped but less so than the Apikols. I've moved, changed jobs, bought and sold a house, have a new baby on the way, etc. As soon as I can come up for air I'll have the Apikols turned (my old Audi dealership said they had plenty of meat left on them). I'm hoping a 4 pot rotor will help with my problem with warping rotors (I've been hell on brakes since my teen years).


They are actual porsche dealerships - merriam. Theres also suncoast porsche that does online. THeres a ton of places that have those calipers at that price point of around $225.

Mike


in on this for sure. Im doing some research myself but this is a big deal considering the Q5 upgrade has been bumped in pricing ever since vendors sniffed the market demand. Im hoping we can lock these down before the same thing happens.

If anyone finds legit links with pics (i need to see what im buying), lets share the love!

[Phil Dammit]

Link?

This is necessary only if powdercoating, right?Saw various at

yourporscheparts.com
carpartsdiscount.com

Yes, seal kits needed for powder option.

*this is for seal/rebuild kit*

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[bhvrdr]

in on this for sure. Im doing some research myself but this is a big deal considering the Q5 upgrade has been bumped in pricing ever since vendors sniffed the market demand. Im hoping we can lock these down before the same thing happens.

If anyone finds legit links with pics (i need to see what im buying), lets share the love!

I was just going to say, those of you with more money than you know what to do with you may want to buy a few sets. Audi and others have been known to jack up the prices on parts that they see end up being enthusiast parts. I bought a shit ton of oem audi rear diffusers a few years ago that were on discount for like 99 bucks each. SOme people are charging 600 now for them. One guy has his in the classifieds for a grand, lol.

Mike

[SleeperCar]

I was just going to say, those of you with more money than you know what to do with you may want to buy a few sets. Audi and others have been known to jack up the prices on parts that they see end up being enthusiast parts. I bought a shit ton of oem audi rear diffusers a few years ago that were on discount for like 99 bucks each. SOme people are charging 600 now for them. One guy has his in the classifieds for a grand, lol.

Mike

Lol, i understand but someone did that already with the Q5 brembos in the A4 section, and they got annihilated for it. I wont do it, i just like to provide resources like in this thread, and once its confirmed, throw it to the A4 guys so we all benefit!

[bhvrdr]

Lol, i understand but someone did that already with the Q5 brembos in the A4 section, and they got annihilated for it. I wont do it, i just like to provide resources like in this thread, and once its confirmed, throw it to the A4 guys so we all benefit!

Right on. I learned my lesson anyways that I wont be a good audi parts salesman. i ended up putting the diffusers up for sale for like 200 and then since I pay pretty much retail for shipping on those huge ass boxes i may have made or lost 5 bucks on each of them. it was more of a pain than anything.

mike

[bhvrdr]

Hey all, with the Q5 calipers do the stock lines (or B8 S4/A4 SS lines) mate up to the caliper fine? Meaning, you dont buy Q5 lines do you?

Thanks,
mike

[Phil.Lmbrt]

Hey all, with the Q5 calipers do the stock lines (or B8 S4/A4 SS lines) mate up to the caliper fine? Meaning, you dont buy Q5 lines do you?

Thanks,
mike

If the Q5 lines end up being too expensive, maybe the Macan lines are not lol[:p]

Jokes aside, Front & Rear stainless line kits are like 100$ so it's not so bad if the OEM lines does not fit, and it's an upgrade also, so it's good for me !

[bhvrdr]

If the Q5 lines end up being too expensive, maybe the Macan lines are not lol[:p]

Jokes aside, Front & Rear stainless line kits are like 100$ so it's not so bad if the OEM lines does not fit, and it's an upgrade also, so it's good for me !

yeah i'm fine either way I just want to have the parts ready and correct. I did the RS5 brake upgrade on an old 09 A4 many years ago and bought RS5 lines and they didnt work. I ended up having to use A4 lines. Just checking if that is the case here. Plus I wouldnt buy SS lines if our stock lines work.

thanks,
mike

[whiped]

If you check ECS the Q5/SQ5 3.0T is listed as using the same brake lines. I don't know how much you can trust that but it shows some promise.

[bhvrdr]

hmm, thanks geoff. i'll give the stockers a try on the Avant.

mike

[Dobbler]

Have we confirmed the Macan parts is identical to the Q5 calipers?

[mrb5_supra_wrx]

in on this for sure. Im doing some research myself but this is a big deal considering the Q5 upgrade has been bumped in pricing ever since vendors sniffed the market demand. Im hoping we can lock these down before the same thing happens.

If anyone finds legit links with pics (i need to see what im buying), lets share the love!

legit links with pics ?? did you not see what gusman posted along with all the other q5 conversion threads on this page its been done with pics multiple times smh

[Gusman1]

Have we confirmed the Macan parts is identical to the Q5 calipers?

Yes they were confirmed by the guy who did it first. Can even see VAG stamp on the calipers.
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[chilort]

Just placed my order with Merriam. Now to search the other threads for pads I'd like to use.

Edit to add that one caliper is in the US but the other one has to come from Germany. I'm paying a fuzz more in shipping so that I get both calipers to my house at about the same time.

I have an inner child that is very happy right now. [:D]

[SleeperCar]

legit links with pics ?? did you not see what gusman posted along with all the other q5 conversion threads on this page its been done with pics multiple times smh

I saw two links to the same website, and pictures for FB post.

Thanks for pointing that out... :)

I am looking for more links, and more pics, that’s all.

Also, ending with SMH is condescending and unnecessary.

Have a great day!

[850tgul]

Geesh, anyone know of any online vendors we could ship these to and powder coat? Just called my local shop and they want $290 for each caliper (includes disassembly and reassembly) but still F' that!

[CollecTTor]

I am looking for more links, and more pics, that’s all.

Also, ending with SMH is condescending and unnecessary.

Have a great day!

Technically, asking for more pics is condescending and unnecessary too. YOU have a great day!

[SleeperCar]

Technically, asking for more pics is condescending and unnecessary too. YOU have a great day!

Just looking to add resources to the thread.

And you also have a great day!!

[Phil.Lmbrt]

Just placed my order with Merriam. Now to search the other threads for pads I'd like to use.

STI pads apparently fit, but without the wear sensor, which, if you keep an eye on your car's condition, you don't really need !

[Phil Dammit]

Geesh, anyone know of any online vendors we could ship these to and powder coat? Just called my local shop and they want $290 for each caliper (includes disassembly and reassembly) but still F' that!Can always send them my way. Shouldn be hard for you to dissassemble before shipping. 290 a piece is retardedly steep for powder per piece. Get me a group of similar colors and we can probably nock some dollars down on cost.





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[SleeperCar]

Geesh, anyone know of any online vendors we could ship these to and powder coat? Just called my local shop and they want $290 for each caliper (includes disassembly and reassembly) but still F' that!

Bmore creative in my area does a great job from what I’ve seen (I personally haven’t used them yet), it’s a local type shop, not sure what he would quote on calipers but ask for brendon

[Dobbler]

Just placed my order with Merriam. Now to search the other threads for pads I'd like to use.

[:D]

Are you planning to keep the stock rotors? Are you upgrading to SS lines?

[chilort]

Are you planning to keep the stock rotors? Are you upgrading to SS lines?

I'm going to have my Apikol 2-piece rotors turned. If they are too far gone (though I suspect they aren't) then I will have them re-ringed. I won't dive into the SS lines debate as there's plenty of information out there other than to say that I might replace my current factory brake lines with another set of factory brake lines should the ones on the car (5 years old) need serviced.

[toastsauce]

So if most people only upgrade the fronts do you still powder coat the rears?

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[chilort]

I might use some caliper paint on them. I'm not in it for the look. They could be brown.

[Phil Dammit]

So if most people only upgrade the fronts do you still powder coat the rears?

Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkOnce I convince the wife this is a need I'll be tearin front and rear down for powder.

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[toastsauce]

Once I convince the wife this is a need I'll be tearin front and rear down for powder.

Sent from my VS995 using TapatalkMust be nice having more than 1 car you rich guys [emoji14]

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[850tgul]

I might use some caliper paint on them. I'm not in it for the look. They could be brown.


In that case just leave the flat dark grey Porsche color on there. Won't be drastically different from the stock black rear calipers either.

[850tgul]

I might use some caliper paint on them. I'm not in it for the look. They could be brown.

We need a spray on caliper paint that is durable. That way you wouldn't have to disassemble, you could just tape off where needed and leave a nice, smooth coat.
The thing with G2 is that while durable it is applied with a brush and leaves visible brush strokes.

[Phil Dammit]

Must be nice having more than 1 car you rich guys [emoji14]

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[socrates42]

STI pads apparently fit, but without the wear sensor, which, if you keep an eye on your car's condition, you don't really need !

This is good info!

[Phil.Lmbrt]

This is good info!I found where I read this !

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/677496-Some-exciting-brake-pad-options-for-the-Q5-Brembo-BBK-retrofit&ved=0ahUKEwjLrpaXv4XYAhWBTN8KHdFjAUoQjjgITTAK&usg=AOvVaw0aQk94OEuXel3m31dM7wb6

States that STI and CTS V pads might work, which opens up for a lot of pad options for us !

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[chilort]

I found where I read this !

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/677496-Some-exciting-brake-pad-options-for-the-Q5-Brembo-BBK-retrofit&ved=0ahUKEwjLrpaXv4XYAhWBTN8KHdFjAUoQjjgITTAK&usg=AOvVaw0aQk94OEuXel3m31dM7wb6

States that STI and CTS V pads might work, which opens up for a lot of pad options for us !

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Thanks for digging up that link. I hadn't taken the time to do it. I've got Hawk 5.0 pads on the car now. I've had HPS on it before. I'll probably keep the 5.0 on the back and get the Hawk HPS for the front. I'm about to be in business. This is great!

[LINDW4LL]

Link?

This is necessary only if powdercoating, right?
These guys have both the seal and hardware kits

http://www.audibbkparts.bigcartel.com/category/q5-brembos

[SleeperCar]

Quick update on pricing/sourcing these calipers:

I emailed a local Porsche dealer for the parts: they said the following:

Hello,

The calipers are $285.95 ea plus tax and would have to be order. Part number 95B-615-123-F we can have in about 2 days maybe long due to the holyday season.
Part number 95B-615-214-F is on back order and I can not confirm and ETA for that part until the order is placed.


just thought I’d share pricing I got quoted locally

[administerturbo]

I found where I read this !

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/677496-Some-exciting-brake-pad-options-for-the-Q5-Brembo-BBK-retrofit&ved=0ahUKEwjLrpaXv4XYAhWBTN8KHdFjAUoQjjgITTAK&usg=AOvVaw0aQk94OEuXel3m31dM7wb6

States that STI and CTS V pads might work, which opens up for a lot of pad options for us !

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They work. Using OEM CTS V pads on mine.

[bhvrdr]

They work. Using OEM CTS V pads on mine.

As long as we're keeping info in one place in this thread, what year STI or CTSV do you guys put in for pads?

thanks
mike

[Works2shoot]

As long as we're keeping info in one place in this thread, what year STI or CTSV do you guys put in for pads?

thanks
mike

Have you seen the other mega thread that contains all this information?


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[Works2shoot]

Is there a market with the A4 crowd for the S4 calipers? Thinking this may not be an overly expensive upgrade if I can sell my S4 calipers and upgrade to these.

The only part that is needed to run the S4 rotor is the caliper carrier. I believe that the caliper is actually the same.


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[bhvrdr]

Have you seen the other mega thread that contains all this information?


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http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/677496-Some-exciting-brake-pad-options-for-the-Q5-Brembo-BBK-retrofit&ved=0ahUKEwjLrpaXv4XYAhWBTN8KHdFjAUoQjjgITTAK&usg=AOvVaw0aQk94OEuXel3m31dM7wb6


Just looked at this thread that phil posted that shows 2010 STI. I'll try that out. thanks.

[FreightDog]

Ive posted this in other threads, but I had a bad experience with G2 and ended up powder coating. I had an extremely difficult time finding the Audi rebuild kit but found this kit that worked great.

https://www.amazon.com/Centric-143-62059-Brake-Calipers/dp/B00SQTDYFU

Will also confirm that the stock brake lines work just fine. I’m running EBC red stuff pads as well.

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[850tgul]

Ive posted this in other threads, but I had a bad experience with G2 and ended up powder coating. I had an extremely difficult time finding the Audi rebuild kit but found this kit that worked great.

https://www.amazon.com/Centric-143-62059-Brake-Calipers/dp/B00SQTDYFU

Will also confirm that the stock brake lines work just fine. I’m running EBC red stuff pads as well.

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Looks great! Can I ask how much you were charged for the powder coating and if it included the shop disassembling and reassembling the seals and everything? Trying to gauge what the powder coating job should cost as my first quote was astronomical, imo. Thx

[FreightDog]

I had a shop a little out of town do it for $100.

I did all the disassembly/assembly myself though, all they did was powdercoat what I brought them.


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[850tgul]

I had a shop a little out of town do it for $100.

I did all the disassembly/assembly myself though, all they did was powdercoat what I brought them.


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wow, $100 for both calipers? That's great. My local shop wanted $290 each. Needless to say I'm going to shop around.

[FreightDog]

Yup, $100 for both. I probably got lucky though, I’m sure the going rate is a little more than that. Not $290 per though! That’s nuts!


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[administerturbo]

Yup, $100 for both. I probably got lucky though, I’m sure the going rate is a little more than that. Not $290 per though! That’s nuts!


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Yeah, I paid $125 for both. They pushed out the pistons (with air) and did the sand blasting. I sanded the metal prior. http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p167/nmanchin/2013%20S4/06F467A2-ED55-4B97-A8B1-BF7322A6895D_zpshw6gcujl.jpg (http://s128.photobucket.com/user/nmanchin/media/2013%20S4/06F467A2-ED55-4B97-A8B1-BF7322A6895D_zpshw6gcujl.jpg.html)

[onlyaudis]

be surprised if you noticed much difference in those calipers over the stock ones especially for street driving. same size rotors and pads, right? it's not like the stock brakes are garbage like they were on my B6 A4. anyone who has done the swap , can you notice a big improvement, or is it more of a slightly better brake feel thing?

[scmtkings4]

This is kinda OT but I did a search and had trouble finding.

Are there any super threads on this forum regarding the upgrade to A6/A7 calipers on the b8?

[CollecTTor]

be surprised if you noticed much difference in those calipers over the stock ones especially for street driving. same size rotors and pads, right? it's not like the stock brakes are garbage like they were on my B6 A4. anyone who has done the swap , can you notice a big improvement, or is it more of a slightly better brake feel thing?

What are you calling an improvement? A monoblock/fixed caliper is going to have better pedal feel and be easier to modulate than a floating/sliding caliper. Are you talking about actually decreasing stopping distances? That's what pads, fluid, and tires are for. Has anyone compared piston size and weight to stock calipers?

[esc]

I have the CTS-V Brembo/Ferodo pads as recommended by administerturbo, they fit fine, no notch for the pad sensors so just zip tie them out of the way.

It's the difference in brake feel that you will notice, very linear. I don't think the stock brakes were bad in terms of stopping distance, and they didn't overheat at the track with the Macan scoops and skinny dust shields.

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[850tgul]

For those of you powder coating and using a decal, are you clear coating over the decal? Both shops I’ve talked to said you can’t use a decal in the powder coating process. They suggest just slapping a decal over the powder coating and being done with it. I always assumed you needed to clear over the decal. Just curious what your method has been with the decals as they all look great.

[durfA4]

I have a powdercoating oven and professional gun setup in my garage.

I have done lots of calipers and they are a pain to get clean enough for powder.

You cannot apply a decal and then clear powdercoat over. The decal will discolor and melt at 400’.

As for charges about $100 each including disassemble and reassemble.

Time is the issue, applying powder and cooking is simple, clean up and prep take a couple hours each. So $20 in powder, $5-$10 in electricity, $5-10 in cleaning and shop supply’s makes $40 and then that leaves about $30/hour labor for 2 hours of optimal work.

Here are my SQ5 calipers on my A7, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/5816c37955692e37db0879effbd5bd63.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/4fe21fe32e33c9dcbfc290ec6e05a673.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/da34398a1c04991d5edf2658aa4efba5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/5cf6b9b5cbf9916fdc3b9d9d1e0e22a2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/cc46cbbed55e7791fe97f2951c92c2f3.jpg


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[850tgul]

So then is the process: powder coat color coat, decal, rattle can clear coat (since as you pointed out that you can not powder coat a clear on there) OR just powder coat the color and then just apply a decal over it and be done with it?

Also, durkA4, are you open to doing my calipers, lol? I'm local.

[bakedziti]

So then is the process: powder coat color coat, decal, rattle can clear coat (since as you pointed out that you can not powder coat a clear on there) OR just powder coat the color and then just apply a decal over it and be done with it?

Also, durkA4, are you open to doing my calipers, lol? I'm local.

+1...will you be open for business?

[durfA4]

So I was not making a sales pitch, I will be doing some parts on my B5 laser project in my spare time. I did a bunch of parts a couple years ago. It was fun but I just don’t have to the free time to make it worth while

$200 for a pair is a fair rate, and most powder coated should be in that ball park. Sometimes I get a good easy powdercoat and other times I have to sand blast the G2 epoxy off. It all evens out and is easier to charge by the job than hour.

Now I’m building a B5 and I’ll powder coat all the things and I’ll be looking for extra car monies or parts. So I may be tempted.


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[850tgul]

So I was not making a sales pitch, I will be doing some parts on my B5 laser project in my spare time. I did a bunch of parts a couple years ago. It was fun but I just don’t have to the free time to make it worth while

$200 for a pair is a fair rate, and most powder coated should be in that ball park. Sometimes I get a good easy powdercoat and other times I have to sand blast the G2 epoxy off. It all evens out and is easier to charge by the job than hour.

Now I’m building a B5 and I’ll powder coat all the things and I’ll be looking for extra car monies or parts. So I may be tempted.


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Are you applying the decal right over the powder coating and not clear coating it?

[administerturbo]

I just purchased some decals from eBay and put them on, not bothering with clear coat. At first I wanted a more permanent solution, but now it's nice knowing I can remove them. For instance, in the spring I think I might do a little brembo logo.

I didn't get them for shorter stopping distance. I got them primarily because I hated the inherent squeal from the stockers. I tore out some glued in pads once on those, and that was plenty. These brembo's are super easy to replace pads on. But yeah, it's a nice brake feel, easy to modulate, haven't had any fade on spirited runs. I don't track this car. They are also lighter as others have mentioned (and may heat sink better as they are alloy). I think they look OEM, which is what I wanted. The fact that OEM lines, rotors, and heat shields fit is also a nice thing.

[CollecTTor]

Has anyone compared piston size and weight to stock calipers?

Anyone?

[Works2shoot]

Anyone?

Check here. http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/613488-OEM-Q5-Brembo-Brake-Upgrade-Review


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[durfA4]

Are you applying the decal right over the powder coating and not clear coating it?

Correct, you will burn the decal with clear powdercoat. Also not really needed to clear coat over powdercoat. the decals will not wear, they may fade like the oem paint does, so might as well use new vinyl.

[CollecTTor]

Check here. http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/613488-OEM-Q5-Brembo-Brake-Upgrade-Review


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Read several pages, saw someone on page 22 asking for piston sizes, no one answered. I've google'ed and not gotten anywhere. Other than the mentioned weight savings, it would be nice to know the math behind what is actually changing here to understand effect on F/R bias/balance.

[Dobbler]

The fact that OEM lines, rotors, and heat shields fit is also a nice thing.

Ah, I expected to need new lines. The stock S4 lines fit?

[FreightDog]

Ah, I expected to need new lines. The stock S4 lines fit?

Yup, the Q5/macan caliper will just bolt right up. No new lines, no new dust-shields, nothing needs to be changed.


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[850tgul]

Damnit! Checked my clearance with ECS' template and these calipers aren't even close to fitting behind my AG M590 19x9.5 et40 wheels. These wheels are already pretty pokey so I don't think I could even run a spacer if I wanted to without then rubbing.

[Dobbler]

Yup, the Q5/macan caliper will just bolt right up. No new lines, no new dust-shields, nothing needs to be changed.


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Lines are cheap. Any benefits to upgrading?

[LINDW4LL]

Has anyone compared piston size and weight to stock calipers?

The Q5 calipers are 42mm for all four pistons. It's hard to find info on the stock caliper- I'd expect it to be 60mm (like the B6/B7 S4), but Stasis is the only source I can find for the B8, and lists it at 57.15mm...

Stock piston area (assuming 57mm figure) = 2565mm^2
Q5 Brembo piston area = 2771mm^2

[Dobbler]

Damnit! Checked my clearance with ECS' template and these calipers aren't even close to fitting behind my AG M590 19x9.5 et40 wheels. These wheels are already pretty pokey so I don't think I could even run a spacer if I wanted to without then rubbing.

I have AG M621's in 19x8.5 ET30 (custom offset) and I just checked with the template and have just a few mm clearance! Maybe 4-5mm. I'm glad I went with the custom offset even though I get occasional rubbing in the back over dips.

[CollecTTor]

The Q5 calipers are 42mm for all four pistons. It's hard to find info on the stock caliper- I'd expect it to be 60mm (like the B6/B7 S4), but Stasis is the only source I can find for the B8, and lists it at 57.15mm...

Stock piston area (assuming 57mm figure) = 2565mm^2
Q5 Brembo piston area = 2771mm^2

Thank you! Interesting that the Q5 Brembo's have the same size piston leading and trailing. That would make the seals for the pistons all the same size as well. Can anyone confirm? Is this the same as the Macan caliper confirmed as well?

[chilort]

Lines are cheap. Any benefits to upgrading?

There are many opinions on this. I’d recommend you check out the construction of a modern oem brake line. If there’s a difference it would be minimal and likely not noticeable in a daily driver. Any claims of big differences are likely driven by the flushed and replaced brake fluid.

[coshesey]

I may be missing something, but these part numbers do no come up for a seach of a base Macan on porsche's websites... They show these for all models:

CALIPER - PORSCHE (95B-615-123-E They come in red and silver. Are we looking at a different car, because the $220 caliper comes up, but not related to a vehicle. The letter description come up as no letter = black, A= Red, B= Silver and C= Yellow.

I am really interested, just want to ensure this would work correctly on a 2013 B8.5 S4.

TIA

(5) 95B 615 124 Fixed calliper /R 1 I1LA
without pad
Black
Use also:
Combination screw
N .911.476.01 2
Delivered
Connecting line
(5) 95B 615 124 A Fixed calliper /R 1 I1LB/1LF
without pad
Silver
Use also:
Combination screw
WHT.004.571. 2
(5) 95B 615 124 B Fixed calliper /R 1 I1LG/1ZK
without pad
Red
Use also:
Pan-head screw
WHT.004.571 2
(5) 95B 615 124 C Fixed calliper /R 1 I1LY
without pad
Yellow
Use also:
Pan-head screw
WHT.004.571.

[chilort]

I may be missing something, but these part numbers do no come up for a seach of a base Macan on porsche's websites... They show these for all models:

CALIPER - PORSCHE (95B-615-123-E They come in red and silver. Are we looking at a different car, because the $220 caliper comes up, but not related to a vehicle. The letter description come up as no letter = black, A= Red, B= Silver and C= Yellow.

I am really interested, just want to ensure this would work correctly on a 2013 B8.5 S4.

Yes
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0ahUKEwiSkP_kjI_YAhWQ2YMKHYqNDhAQFghZMAk&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.porsche.com%2Fall%2Fmedia%2F pdf%2Foriginalparts%2Fen%2FKAT044_RDW_GB_Macan-1.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3zrcuZV_J93dBmEQyfuofr

[Gberg888]

So, the q5 calipers are a direct bolt on replacement?

[FreightDog]

So, the q5 calipers are a direct bolt on replacement?

Yes.


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[chilort]

But do they fit they S4? The one made by Audi. I just can't tell from reading this thread. It has only been asked a dozen times. There are only pictures that show they fit. Someone, please tell me if these calipers fit my car!

[Works2shoot]

But do they fit they S4? The one made by Audi. I just can't tell from reading this thread. It has only been asked a dozen times. There are only pictures that show they fit. Someone, please tell me if these calipers fit my car!

X2 Looking for some clarification here.

[Gusman1]

I’ll post the pictures again. These are the base Macan/Q5 calipers on an S4.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171217/a5db67f487adedde4b7b1248ebb73e2a.jpg

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[Works2shoot]

I’ll post the pictures again. These are the base Macan/Q5 calipers on an S4.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171217/a5db67f487adedde4b7b1248ebb73e2a.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171217/4286f18843b710ae4447cb6ca73aa5f3.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171217/e208c174713f3e3cb2cea3ddbfe5ef72.jpg

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/467/1355331549061.jpg

[chilort]

... not your car, but my car! I understand they fit other people's S4s but I need to know about mine. If someone could come to my house and put them on the car to show me they really do fit then I think I'll be satisfied.

Some threads... You'd think someone had cut a hole in their hood and installed a naca duct or something.

[mavz]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/467/1355331549061.jpg

Well played [>_<]

[SleeperCar]

Where is everyone sourcing them though? My Porsche dealer didn’t have the greatest pricing, and if they are comparable to the Q5 Brembo I’d rather get them since brembo>stoptech which makes the macan caliper

[PitchS4]

I am selling a right side q5 caliper for 350 shipped

[Gusman1]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/467/1355331549061.jpg

Ohhh it was a joke...got it [emoji1417]

[chilort]

Where is everyone sourcing them though? My Porsche dealer didn’t have the greatest pricing, and if they are comparable to the Q5 Brembo I’d rather get them since brembo>stoptech which makes the macan caliper

I used one of the links posted earlier in this very thread but, now that I think about it, I intended to try German Autohaus in Chattanooga. But that’s only because I have a very distant/weak personal connection.

[SleeperCar]

I used one of the links posted earlier in this very thread but, now that I think about it, I intended to try German Autohaus in Chattanooga. But that’s only because I have a very distant/weak personal connection.

Yea I saw and looked at that link, didn’t love the lack of pictures of the exact product I would receive but I guess others have been successful.

I was hoping there were other sites/locations people were using, I always like to shop and compare prices.

[CollecTTor]

Yea I saw and looked at that link, didn’t love the lack of pictures of the exact product I would receive but I guess others have been successful.

I was hoping there were other sites/locations people were using, I always like to shop and compare prices.

So does everyone else, but why are you scared to buy things without pictures? You expect every Porsche dealer to take pictures of every part they make available? Part numbers exist for a reason.

[SleeperCar]

So does everyone else, but why are you scared to buy things without pictures? You expect every Porsche dealer to take pictures of every part they make available? Part numbers exist for a reason.

I see your point, pictures aren’t always possible.

I was just asking if anyone else bought and had good experience from other locations aside from suncoast and/or local dealer.

Ive been around Audi long enough to know part numbers sometimes result in really crappy parts being delivered. (Aka genuineaudiparts.com not always being genuine). And the hassle of returns is something I’d rather avoid if at all possible.

[godlyone]

Does anyone have pics of the Macan calipers and S4 calipers side by side to see size difference? Also difference of weight?

[CollecTTor]

I see your point, pictures aren’t always possible.

I was just asking if anyone else bought and had good experience from other locations aside from suncoast and/or local dealer.

Ive been around Audi long enough to know part numbers sometimes result in really crappy parts being delivered. (Aka genuineaudiparts.com not always being genuine). And the hassle of returns is something I’d rather avoid if at all possible.

I understand and see where you're coming from, but you're talking about calipers from known Porsche dealers. You're not going to get some Chinese knock off Porsche caliper.

[SleeperCar]

I understand and see where you're coming from, but you're talking about calipers from known Porsche dealers. You're not going to get some Chinese knock off Porsche caliper.

Good points, I’m strongly considering these as the Q5 Brembos are either severely overpriced or impossible to find in good quality

[bhvrdr]

Totally impressed with Merriam Porsches ship time. They told me one of the calipers had to come from Germany and that if I didn't want to pay extra shipping it could take 3 weeks but here both calipers have arrived a week later.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/aee9d4291cb415840466a3a7c41ad02d.jpg

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[Jroyalty7]

Totally impressed with Merriam Porsches ship time. They told me one of the calipers had to come from Germany and that if I didn't want to pay extra shipping it could take 3 weeks but here both calipers have arrived a week later.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/aee9d4291cb415840466a3a7c41ad02d.jpg

Sent from my SM-G935V using TapatalkHey Mike let me know how these work out for you genuinely curious about this upgrade, just want to make sure it's comparable/ less in price to the Q5's. Are these Brembo's?

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[bhvrdr]

Hey Mike let me know how these work out for you genuinely curious about this upgrade, just want to make sure it's comparable/ less in price to the Q5's. Are these Brembo's?

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkYou bet. Keep in mind I'll be putting these on an Audi A4 though so I'll be upgrading from a 320 mm rotor to a 345 mm rotor which should help out quite a bit. Yeah these are definitely Brembo brand

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[Jroyalty7]

You bet. Keep in mind I'll be putting these on an Audi A4 though so I'll be upgrading from a 320 mm rotor to a 345 mm rotor which should help out quite a bit. Yeah these are definitely Brembo brand

Sent from my SM-G935V using TapatalkRight, either way the Q5s are 345mm also so if these work out to be cheaper than that's the route I'll go. I'll probably pair them with EBC redstuff pads and ecs 2 piece rotors. Do these fit the standard q5 brake selections?

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[Gusman1]

Totally impressed with Merriam Porsches ship time. They told me one of the calipers had to come from Germany and that if I didn't want to pay extra shipping it could take 3 weeks but here both calipers have arrived a week later.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/aee9d4291cb415840466a3a7c41ad02d.jpg

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When the time comes to install these, would you be able to take some pictures to compare the size of these to the A4s.
Thinking about going this route for the wifes Allroad. I am hopeful they will clear the wheels.

[chilort]

I've got my fingers crossed that mine will arrive soon. I ordered mine a week ago today as well. I got the same story on the one caliper coming from Germany. I wonder if that's how they get an extra $25 into their pockets.

Edit to add: Boo. No soup for me today. UPS man arrived while we were out to a party and the brakes were not in the delivery from the brown-truck-Santa.

[Dobbler]

When the time comes to install these, would you be able to take some pictures to compare the size of these to the A4s.
Thinking about going this route for the wifes Allroad. I am hopeful they will clear the wheels.

Use the template for the Q5 calipers provided by ECS.

[Gusman1]

Use the template for the Q5 calipers provided by ECS.

Thanks, I will look for it.

[SleeperCar]

You bet. Keep in mind I'll be putting these on an Audi A4 though so I'll be upgrading from a 320 mm rotor to a 345 mm rotor which should help out quite a bit. Yeah these are definitely Brembo brand

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Are you sure they are brembo? It is my understanding the Macan caliper is made by stoptech and not brembo

[bhvrdr]

Are you sure they are brembo? It is my understanding the Macan caliper is made by stoptech and not bremboIf you look closely the picture i posted the little Packet that has the bridge spring in it has a card in it with the Brembo name on it

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[SleeperCar]

If you look closely the picture i posted the little Packet that has the bridge spring in it has a card in it with the Brembo name on it

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Right well that means the guide pins are brembo, but if the caliper is brembo it would have a brembo logo stamped on the back,

Do you mind confirming that?

[CollecTTor]

Are you sure they are brembo? It is my understanding the Macan caliper is made by stoptech and not brembo

WHO CARES? Here we go with pictures again. It's OEM PORSCHE. Do you want to go to Stoptech and Brembo factories and compare their certifications and metrics? Geez, you're a picky one.

[ofspecialk]

Totally impressed with Merriam Porsches ship time. They told me one of the calipers had to come from Germany and that if I didn't want to pay extra shipping it could take 3 weeks but here both calipers have arrived a week later.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/aee9d4291cb415840466a3a7c41ad02d.jpg

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What was the total?

[administerturbo]

Are you sure they are brembo? It is my understanding the Macan caliper is made by stoptech and not brembo


Same caliper as the Q5 which clearly has Brembo molded into the back. If you don't believe us, just by the Q5 version. Do you think Stoptech ripped off the Brembo mold and somehow convinced Porsche to use them as a supplier?

[mcjim]

Are you sure they are brembo? It is my understanding the Macan caliper is made by stoptech and not brembo

How did you come to this understanding?


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[bhvrdr]

Total was 461 with taxes and shipped for both.

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[LINDW4LL]

Are you sure they are brembo? It is my understanding the Macan caliper is made by stoptech and not brembo
Yes, they are Brembo.

I'm not sure how you came to that understanding as Stoptech is not (and has never been) an OE supplier for Porsche or Audi.


Right well that means the guide pins are brembo, but if the caliper is brembo it would have a brembo logo stamped on the back,

Do you mind confirming that?
So to be clear- you think Porsche would commission/engineer a caliper with Stoptech, then tell them they won't be purchasing the necessary hardware kit for the caliper, and then go to Brembo and have them produce a custom hardware kit for the Stoptech caliper? [rolleyes]


Same caliper as the Q5 which clearly has Brembo molded into the back. If you don't believe us, just by the Q5 version. Do you think Stoptech ripped off the Brembo mold and somehow convinced Porsche to use them as a supplier?
[:D]

[Phil Dammit]

Total was 461 with taxes and shipped for both.

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[SleeperCar]

im confirming with dealer here. Not sure, but i want to be sure.

[bhvrdr]

I might have missed but just incase. Did you order online or over the phone from merriam?



Sent from my VS995 using TapatalkI ordered online from them but they called me literally one day later just to let me know how long it would take to get the parts in and discuss if I wanted to have them rushed or anything like that. I did not request them to be rushed even though they said one of the calipers was going to have to be coming from Germany and I still got everything within a week. I would not hesitate to do business with these folks again.

Mike

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[SleeperCar]

Yes, they are Brembo.

I'm not sure how you came to that understanding as Stoptech is not (and has never been) an OE supplier for Porsche or Audi.


So to be clear- you think Porsche would commission/engineer a caliper with Stoptech, then tell them they won't be purchasing the necessary hardware kit for the caliper, and then go to Brembo and have them produce a custom hardware kit for the Stoptech caliper? [rolleyes]


[:D]

i get your point, i just want to be sure, because the earlier pic from the FB post showed the VW audi logo and writing on the Macan caliper, but the Q5 caliper clearly has a Brembo stamp, why would they be different if they are the same?

[Phil Dammit]

I ordered online from them but they called me literally one day later just to let me know how long it would take to get the parts in and discuss if I wanted to have them rushed or anything like that. I did not request them to be rushed even though they said one of the calipers was going to have to be coming from Germany and I still got everything within a week. I would not hesitate to do business with these folks again.

Mike

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[Race Shooter]

i get your point, i just want to be sure, because the earlier pic from the FB post showed the VW audi logo and writing on the Macan caliper, but the Q5 caliper clearly has a Brembo stamp, why would they be different if they are the same?

Here is a photo of the q5 caliper. You can see the Audi logo on one side and the Brembo on the other side. It looks like the FB photo is of the audi logo side. So I would guess the Macan probably has the brembo logo on the other side as well.

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/696199_x800.jpg

[SleeperCar]

Here is a photo of the q5 caliper. You can see the Audi logo on one side and the Brembo on the other side. It looks like the FB photo is of the audi logo side. So I would guess the Macan probably has the brembo logo on the other side as well.

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/696199_x800.jpg

good deal, all we need is that same pic of the macan caliper, and Ill shut up haha

My local Porsche dealer said not all their calipers are brembo, and the ones that are are always stamped. So that got me more curious, he said they couldnt confirm the source of the non-stamped calipers, which I thought was interesting.

Also, good luck on your move man!

[bhvrdr]

Here you go you crazy bastards.... just messing around lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171220/94a3d76233df5b4fc2a590c7cf3e395d.jpg

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[bhvrdr]

Just as an FYI as well keep in mind that brake components from OEM can be sourced by several of their manufacturers from ATE to Nissin to Brembo and I'm sure many many others. If they are made to the exact same specification I wouldn't worry as much about who they're made by. I worry more about knockoffs that are not actually OEM

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[SleeperCar]

Here you go you crazy bastards.... just messing around lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171220/94a3d76233df5b4fc2a590c7cf3e395d.jpg

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You sir are the man, the myth, and the legend!

[chilort]

Dag-nab-it-blah!

Looks like I'm calling Merriam tomorrow. My calipers were not delivered today by brown-truck-Santa.

[CollecTTor]

So to be clear- you think Porsche would commission/engineer a caliper with Stoptech, then tell them they won't be purchasing the necessary hardware kit for the caliper, and then go to Brembo and have them produce a custom hardware kit for the Stoptech caliper?

Yeah, makes perfect sense. I just need a picture to confirm. [headbang]

[SleeperCar]

Yeah, makes perfect sense. I just need a picture to confirm. [headbang]

haters gonna hate, i wanted confirmation, and bhvrdr was kind enough to oblige, it really isnt that hard to snap a cellphone shot and post it, takes 5 minutes. Thanks for your added commentary, it makes audizine worth it [:p]

Maybe ill see you at SOWO next year and we can chat, maybe take a few photos [az] Also, thanks for joining AZ 4 months ago, it helps having helpful new members [>_<]

[chilort]

Called today. My calipers are ordered but, even though I paid the extra money, the one coming from German got packed onto a slow boat. I get the extra money back but get to wait longer. NBD though as my wife had our second child 2 days ago so I've been busy (and will continue to be busy and distracted).

[bhvrdr]

Called today. My calipers are ordered but, even though I paid the extra money, the one coming from German got packed onto a slow boat. I get the extra money back but get to wait longer. NBD though as my wife had our second child 2 days ago so I've been busy (and will continue to be busy and distracted).

darn I kind of feel bad because quite frankly our situation should be switched. my calipers somehow luckily got to me super quick what it looks like my car is going to be back in the shop now for the better part of several weeks getting an engine replacement.

[SleeperCar]

Called today. My calipers are ordered but, even though I paid the extra money, the one coming from German got packed onto a slow boat. I get the extra money back but get to wait longer. NBD though as my wife had our second child 2 days ago so I've been busy (and will continue to be busy and distracted).

Bummer on the calipers, but congrats man!

[SleeperCar]

darn I kind of feel bad because quite frankly our situation should be switched. my calipers somehow luckily got to me super quick what it looks like my car is going to be back in the shop now for the better part of several weeks getting an engine replacement.

Did you decide what color your painting the calipers yet?

[bhvrdr]

Did you decide what color your painting the calipers yet?I was just going to leave them as is. I guess I could shoot them within an enamel. If I do I think I'd probably do red because it would go pretty well I think with the gray car

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[SleeperCar]

I was just going to leave them as is. I guess I could shoot them within an enamel. If I do I think I'd probably do red because it would go pretty well I think with the gray car

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Yea, gotcha


I have a very specific Porsche color in mind that I think will look great with my scuba blue

[chilort]

Bummer on the calipers, but congrats man!

Thanks! Time for a vasecto-cation; two kids will be enough for me.


darn I kind of feel bad because quite frankly our situation should be switched. my calipers somehow luckily got to me super quick what it looks like my car is going to be back in the shop now for the better part of several weeks getting an engine replacement.

As long as they get here shortly after Christmas I'll be in good shape. Best of luck with the new engine. That sounds less than enjoyable (and not cheap).

[PamWith2M's]

There is a decent chance they are not warped. Try sanding them lightly or have them turned. Generally rotors don't warp as much as they get blamed for uneven pad deposits from overheating. Actual warped rotors are very very unlikely. Unless you buy true high carbon racing rotors the biggest bang is with a high heat pad which will not deposit unevenly as much or as quickly at high temps.

[S4Sanity]

Yea, gotcha


I have a very specific Porsche color in mind that I think will look great with my scuba blue

I’ve always loved the Porsche Acid Green for Brakes. Just don’t know how I feel about it on Ibis

[SleeperCar]

I’ve always loved the Porsche Acid Green for Brakes. Just don’t know how I feel about it on Ibis

Yea, I like unique,

I’m going rubystone Red, I think it will pop nice on scuba blue

[S4Sanity]

Yea, I like unique,

I’m going rubystone Red, I think it will pop nice on scuba blue

Me too.

That would look great on scuba

[chilort]

There is a decent chance they are not warped. Try sanding them lightly or have them turned. Generally rotors don't warp as much as they get blamed for uneven pad deposits from overheating. Actual warped rotors are very very unlikely. Unless you buy true high carbon racing rotors the biggest bang is with a high heat pad which will not deposit unevenly as much or as quickly at high temps.

I'm going to try that first for sure. I've got 115,000 miles on the car and my Apikol rotors were on the car for nearly 3 years (maybe 60,000 miles as I changed out the stock ones at 20,000 and then hated the slotted rotors I installed so they were on maybe another 30,000 miles). So, I'll see about getting them turned first. If that works then great. If not, I'll re-ring them.

[oldzmann]

Does the brake pedal and feel change with these calipers? I have heard that the pedal goes noticeably closer to the floor before the brakes engage and the feel is not as direct.

[bhvrdr]

Does the brake pedal and feel change with these calipers? I have heard that the pedal goes noticeably closer to the floor before the brakes engage and the feel is not as direct.

That's slightly more of an issue with the big 8 piston RS5 and R8 brake setups. I had those on a different car and it did slightly change the pedal travel but nothing what I would consider to be an issue. These calipers are significantly smaller than them and I doubt it would have any issue. If anything I'd think that they might actually cause some increased in pedal modulation and feel

[Dobbler]

Does the brake pedal and feel change with these calipers? I have heard that the pedal goes noticeably closer to the floor before the brakes engage and the feel is not as direct.

Interesting. Can those that have actually done the Q5/Macan caliper swap on their S4 weigh in on this?

[chilort]

I think the person who had all the trouble had air in the lines. If my calipers ever get to me I will report back.

[tar]

Does the brake pedal and feel change with these calipers? I have heard that the pedal goes noticeably closer to the floor before the brakes engage and the feel is not as direct.

You heard wrong or from a bad source that didnt bleed his brakes correctly like above said.

These feel great and like bhvrdr said they are easier to modulate. Going on 10k with my set up no issues, less dust,look better, stop better.

[FreightDog]

You heard wrong or from a bad source that didnt bleed his brakes correctly like above said.

These feel great and like bhvrdr said they are easier to modulate. Going on 10k with my set up no issues, less dust,look better, stop better.

I second,

Pedal feel feel is great, no issues at all so far.




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[Dobbler]

I second,

Pedal feel feel is great, no issues at all so far.




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That's reassuring. Specifically, there's no additional initial travel before "bite"?

[FreightDog]

That's reassuring. Specifically, there's no additional initial travel before "bite"?

No, not that I noticed. I am sure that if you compared them side by side you could tell some difference, but by no means did I have to “re-learn” how to brake. I installed, got in the car and drove it like I had been driving it.

I am sure results will vary depending on pads though, I am running EBC redstuff.


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[Dobbler]

No, not that I noticed. I am sure that if you compared them side by side you could tell some difference, but by no means did I have to “re-learn” how to brake. I installed, got in the car and drove it like I had been driving it.

I am sure results will vary depending on pads though, I am running EBC redstuff.


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How do you like those pads?

[FreightDog]

I like them a lot! I was going to go yellow, but was talked out of them, I’m glad I went with the reds.


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[A.C.]

Just out of curiosity it is recommended to upgrade the master cylinder going from single floating to 4 piston? I’m looking to upgrade my brakes in the Spring. Also is it beneficial to use the Macan brake shields? Thanks in advance


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[tar]

No and no. These are bolt on and done. You guys are drastically over thinking these.

[A.C.]

No and no. These are bolt on and done. You guys are drastically over thinking these.

Thanks. If you don’t know you have to ask the question. I noticed one guy on the forum selling a complete kit with calipers, OEM lines, Macan brake shields for $1k. I decided to pass as the holiday was approaching


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[goodforyou24]

Ordered for a b8 s5, should be on next week with ebc red stuff and I’ll report back.

[austerity]

Sent mine out for powdercoat yesterday. The pistons were a bit stubborn, but finally got them all split apart.

https://i.imgur.com/Y8jrYnO.jpg

[coshesey]

Shipped today and should be here next Thursday. Decided to also go with ECS 2 piece rotors too... Unfortunately I am out of town next weekend...[wrench]

[chilort]

They're here!

And they are bigger than I expected. Shown next to 10lb new born for size reference.
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[Dobbler]

They're here!

And they are bigger than I expected. Shown next to 10lb new born for size reference.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4686/39509119772_e592484023_c.jpg

Cute. Do they come with pad retention clips and pins? Just have to get wear indicators separately?

[godlyone]

when you install can you please get a side by side pic with stock calipers and also a weight on both?

Thanks!

[chilort]

when you install can you please get a side by side pic with stock calipers and also a weight on both?

Thanks!

Probably not. I'm having some other work done at the same time so I'm having an Indy shop do the work. I'm new to the area so I don't have a bunch of rapport with the shop yet to where I feel like I could bug them about pictures. I can see about weighing one of these unloaded though.

ETA: Also, if I fail to make sense with anything I type, please keep in mind that the new born in the picture is also actual size (and comes with a serious lack of sleep).

[Dobbler]

I'll weigh mine when I get them. Does anyone know the weight of the stock S4 calipers?

What is a high quality smooth rotor that will save some weight? I don't hear great things about ECS rotors.

[tar]

I'll weigh mine when I get them. Does anyone know the weight of the stock S4 calipers?

What is a high quality smooth rotor that will save some weight? I don't hear great things about ECS rotors.

No issues with my ecs 2piece rotors. But for blanks id do stoptech/centric branded. Centric is cheaper but same stuff

[chilort]

I'll weigh mine when I get them. Does anyone know the weight of the stock S4 calipers?

What is a high quality smooth rotor that will save some weight? I don't hear great things about ECS rotors.

I bought Apikol 2-piece rotors (plane - no slots, no holes, no zigzags, no divots, no BJs, etc). I really like them. I had them on the car for 3 years and 60k miles before they warped (and I haven't had them turned yet so I'm not even sure it was warped rotors). My old dealership said there was plenty of meat on them too so I can have them turned. I'm utterly thrilled with them.

The Q5/Macan caliper weights 9lbs each unloaded. I used a kitchen scale with an 11lb max.

And since everyone here is from the "show me" state:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4732/27781040679_c7da0e8050_c.jpg

[coshesey]

Ok, question...

Caliper decal...
S4
Audi sport
Brembo

Which would you pick?

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[bhvrdr]

Ok, question...

Caliper decal...
S4
Audi sport
Brembo

Which would you pick?

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S*** why pick one man go with all three

[coshesey]

K, realize it was just a dumb question but... That would look epic Honda Civic kid style with all 3

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[scmtkings4]

Ok, question...

Caliper decal...
S4
Audi sport
Brembo

Which would you pick?

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I would go with s4

[waxxonMTL]

Ok, question...

Caliper decal...
S4
Audi sport
Brembo

Which would you pick?

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brembo because well.. it's a brembo caliper. If you want to stay stealth-mode than go S4 like the OEM. but personal here, audi sport reminds me of all the fake sh*t flying around on ebay .. thinks useless puddle light lol.

[waxxonMTL]

I'll weigh mine when I get them. Does anyone know the weight of the stock S4 calipers?

What is a high quality smooth rotor that will save some weight? I don't hear great things about ECS rotors.

it's in the forum if you search, i remember being 9lbs vs 19lbs or so. saving of approx. 10lbs. Rotor saves about 5-6lbs ( if you go 2piece), PSS can save an extra 3lbs compared to other similar sized tire, and if you pick a LW rims you might be saving another 6-10lbs. If you only do one, you won't feel that much of a difference, but when you do all of them, you do feel it :)

I went with Girodisc (slotted) because I had a good deal, but if I were to pay full price, I would most likely go Apikol plain. Althought I believe the brand Girodisc have a bit better reputation around the world than Apikol and Girodisc make rear rotor where i'm unsure if Apikol does.

I do like the slot pattern tho and I'm happy to report that no problem so far in -30celcius ( compared to bad review you might read on the ecs about cold weather grip)

[coshesey]

Chilort,
Shipping weight of the two calipers with the box and packing is 23 pounds according to the Fed ex tracking, so 9lbs on the scale sounds about right. Excited to wight the entire difference of this unsprung weight

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[A.C.]

I would go with s4

I 2nd S4


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[tar]

Do brembo. We already have enough s4 logos on the car.

Seats, s wheel, front and rear of car, prob more ive forgotten.

[austerity]

I'm going with red Brembo logo on a gloss black caliper.

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Do brembo. We already have enough s4 logos on the car.

Seats, s wheel, front and rear of car, prob more ive forgotten.

door sills

[chilort]

I'm going with Porsche because I do not care.

[tar]

I'm going with red Brembo logo on a gloss black caliper.

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door sills

Ah yes and I think the girl version of our cars have it on the "shifter"?

[brs2c]

...audi sport reminds me of all the fake sh*t flying around on ebay .. thinks useless puddle light lol.
^^^Exactly

[SleeperCar]

I would go brembo or Porsche

[aphrdzac]

Do you have the part numbers of the calipers?


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[Works2shoot]

Do you have the part numbers of the calipers?


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Have you read the thread at all or did you just post?

[chilort]

Going on the car now! Looking forward to this spring when I get PSS tires back on the car.

[coshesey]

Pics please, mine are coming tomorrow, did yours come with the hardware too?

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[tar]

Mine https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/1bc900f3663d322a6d9804370a369dd4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/7bbf81bed5ba37b53f23d5ba287982b8.jpg

[coshesey]

Nice, I decided on brembo too

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[whiped]

They look great! Your picture taking skills could use some work though ;)

[SleeperCar]

Mine https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/1bc900f3663d322a6d9804370a369dd4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/7bbf81bed5ba37b53f23d5ba287982b8.jpg

[emoji106] nice setup there.... are those rotors the ecs two piece wave floaters? How do you like them?

[Phil.Lmbrt]

Has anyone tried the other variants that come already painted? There are all those suffix letters that seem to indicate colors, but some of them have no description. I have sent an email to merriam but they want a vin # and say they don't cross-fit parts. I don't really want to say it is for an S4 because it might cause them to mark up the price like the Q5s..

I kinda want to bite the bullet on a red set, # 95B-615-123-E The last letter being the only difference, I have no reason to believe it wouldn't be the same caliper, but painted red. Do you guys think it could be an other caliper type that wouldn't fit?

[chilort]

Pics please, mine are coming tomorrow, did yours come with the hardware too?

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If you mean the pins and whatnot, then yes.

[tar]

They look great! Your picture taking skills could use some work though ;)

Being fair my phones camera lens is super scratched up from always setting it down in garage ect. When I can get it focused I have to settle for what I get lol. Its new phone time

[tar]

[emoji106] nice setup there.... are those rotors the ecs two piece wave floaters? How do you like them?

Ya ecs waves. I like them no issues but I am in socal so no cold weather, which ive heard is when people have issues

[tar]

Pics with my other wheels these are all 19 s. The hres above are 20shttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/bfa358dd7e2e116cbcc3ae8d2c033b25.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/b69e1a8e8d57191236766122931caa19.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/c22c68127d8dc68d30eb5d49743504ac.jpg

[chilort]

The pedal is really linear. And the harder you push the more force you get (as would be expected, right?). But the pedal is also really looooooooonnnnng. They tried bleeding them twice. I won't know if they bench bleed them at all. Time to buy a power bleeder I guess. Suggestions?


Not much to see other than than I need to clean my car.
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[tar]

The pedal is really linear. And the harder you push the more force you get (as would be expected, right?). But the pedal is also really looooooooonnnnng. They tried bleeding them twice. I won't know if they bench bleed them at all. Time to buy a power bleeder I guess. Suggestions?


Not much to see other than than I need to clean my car.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4621/38723492025_1c9d820118_c.jpg

I used a power bleeder. Pedal isnt long feels normal. I did rear lines at same time and did a full flush

[CollecTTor]

But the pedal is also really looooooooonnnnng.

That's a symptom of a mismatch between caliper piston size (area) and master cylinder piston size. I asked for this info earlier in this thread, and never got around to doing the math analysis to see if this would be an issue. Anyone else reporting this? Bleeding isn't likely to help.

[bhvrdr]

That's a symptom of a mismatch between caliper piston size (area) and master cylinder piston size. I asked for this info earlier in this thread, and never got around to doing the math analysis to see if this would be an issue. Anyone else reporting this? Bleeding isn't likely to help.

Not in our case though. None of the folks that have done this are experiencing that issue except for those that are having other issues which is probably air in the line. Even when I did the gigantic 8 piston RS calipers the pedal travel was only slightly affected and only to the point where you wouldn't even have noticed it if you hadn't done a before and after comparison

[whiped]

The S4 and the Q5 3.0T use the same rear brakes and master cylinder... Just saying.

[tar]

The S4 and the Q5 3.0T use the same rear brakes and master cylinder... Just saying.

Is no reasoning with him he doesnt listen. Typical mk4 owner.

[bhvrdr]

The S4 and the Q5 3.0T use the same rear brakes and master cylinder... Just saying.

Correcto...

https://parts.audibrooklyn.com/p/Audi__SQ5/Brake-Master-Cylinder-Master-cylinder/48616340/8K0611021A.html?partner=googlebase_adwords&kwd=&origin=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6_jWt7zO2AIVWFcNCh2Z8QaZEAYYBCAB EgJZA_D_BwE

fits like 30 models.

[CollecTTor]

Not in our case though. None of the folks that have done this are experiencing that issue except for those that are having other issues which is probably air in the line. Even when I did the gigantic 8 piston RS calipers the pedal travel was only slightly affected and only to the point where you wouldn't even have noticed it if you hadn't done a before and after comparison

That's why my post clearly asked if anyone else was experiencing this. He said it was bled twice, so unless it was done incorrectly.....


Is no reasoning with him he doesnt listen. Typical mk4 owner.

Excuse me? With a presumptive comment like that, exactly how old do you think I am? Sorry, I haven't memorized every part that's common to the S4 and Q5 or the full brake specs of the B8. There's nothing to "reason" with if it's a known common part. The condition he described is often the symptom of a mismatch problem. However, you are clearly the typical snobbish, condescending Audi owner.

[chilort]

I wasn't sure about the MC. So I am very glad to hear it is the same size. I'm also pretty sure I've got air in the line because I have good pedal feel when I pump the brakes just one time (really nice actually).

Any suggestions on a power bleeder? If not, I'm going to hit the first thing that comes up on Amazon.

[Keystoneclassic]

Following and read the whole thread. Good stuff. Will these calipers bolt up to the stock A4 rotors?


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[tar]

I wasn't sure about the MC. So I am very glad to hear it is the same size. I'm also pretty sure I've got air in the line because I have good pedal feel when I pump the brakes just one time (really nice actually).

Any suggestions on a power bleeder? If not, I'm going to hit the first thing that comes up on Amazon.

Motive works great.

[tar]

Following and read the whole thread. Good stuff. Will these calipers bolt up to the stock A4 rotors?


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Stock b8 s4 rotors.

They have a q5 brake that works with a4 rotor if 330mm also I believe it's from the 2.0t q5. In b8 a4 forum there is a long thread.

[Keystoneclassic]

Stock b8 s4 rotors.

They have a q5 brake that works with a4 rotor if 330mm also I believe it's from the 2.0t q5. In b8 a4 forum there is a long thread.

Oh sh*% just noticed this is an S4 thread. My fault. Rookie mistake. Will check A4 thread. Thanks


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[bakedziti]

Oh sh*% just noticed this is an S4 thread. My fault. Rookie mistake. Will check A4 thread. Thanks


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You could you use these calipers, but you'd also need to get a set of 345mm front rotors.

There is also a large thread about the Q5 upgrade on the A4 side. Clearly some difference when it comes to factory rotor size, but the master cylinder and long pedal feel was discussed in this thread. Master cylinder discussion begins around page 20

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/613488-OEM-Q5-Brembo-Brake-Upgrade-Review

[coshesey]

Got mine a day early. They are exactly what I was looking for. Has anyone found caliper paint to match the porsche color? I wonder if the Porsche paint will sand off and leave the original color. The apply decal and clearcoat them...

Going to have to wait a week... Its killing me.

[washyourrhands]

Dang this is seriously awesome and will most likely be one of my first mods.

[BIG_ROOSTER]

For all the nay sayers I ordered a left side caliper I believe. I had already found a right side Q5 brembo for $280 new I’ll be able to take side by side pictures.


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[administerturbo]

That's why my post clearly asked if anyone else was experiencing this. He said it was bled twice, so unless it was done incorrectly.....



Excuse me? With a presumptive comment like that, exactly how old do you think I am? Sorry, I haven't memorized every part that's common to the S4 and Q5 or the full brake specs of the B8. There's nothing to "reason" with if it's a known common part. The condition he described is often the symptom of a mismatch problem. However, you are clearly the typical snobbish, condescending Audi owner.

Twice? I had to bleed mine like 7 times via pressure bleeder AND manual bleed. Manual bleed works the best for me. I also activated the ABS test to flush air out of the unit. I don't think people understand how much air gets in these systems when you fully open them up. Every time I replace lines or calipers on a car I seem to deal with this. Keep bleeding peeps.

[850tgul]

Has anyone tried the other variants that come already painted? There are all those suffix letters that seem to indicate colors, but some of them have no description. I have sent an email to merriam but they want a vin # and say they don't cross-fit parts. I don't really want to say it is for an S4 because it might cause them to mark up the price like the Q5s..

I kinda want to bite the bullet on a red set, # 95B-615-123-E The last letter being the only difference, I have no reason to believe it wouldn't be the same caliper, but painted red. Do you guys think it could be an other caliper type that wouldn't fit?

If you could order pre-painted that would be huge! If you need a Q5 vin I just googled one for sale that has the correct caliper. From a 2017 Q3 3.0T WA1D7AFP1HA006929. Please keep us updated and thanks for reaching out to the dealership!

[chilort]

Twice? I had to bleed mine like 7 times via pressure bleeder AND manual bleed. Manual bleed works the best for me. I also activated the ABS test to flush air out of the unit. I don't think people understand how much air gets in these systems when you fully open them up. Every time I replace lines or calipers on a car I seem to deal with this. Keep bleeding peeps.

Manual meaning, 1) crack the bleeder, 2) step on brakes, 3) close bleeder, 4) release brakes, 5) repeat?
Is the ABS test something you do via VAG-Com? I've got the tool but I don't know if I have a working Windows laptop any more.

[bhvrdr]

Manual meaning, 1) crack the bleeder, 2) step on brakes, 3) close bleeder, 4) release brakes, 5) repeat?
Is the ABS test something you do via VAG-Com? I've got the tool but I don't know if I have a working Windows laptop any more.

yes via VCDS. I think Carista may allow it. Be worthwhile to check on that in your situation. If you run the reservoir dry or get bubbles up top you have to do this.

I've gotten lucky the past few caliper changes I've done by literally having the new caliper sitting right next to the old one ready to hot swap over. I keep the reservoir full. I hot swap the line over to the new one (or hot swap the new line over to the old one if you are replacing the lines) and then I bleed that caliper right there just a bit making sure I go back up top to check that too much fluid isnt draining out of the reservoir. I'll top that off if it starts going low.

I do that with each caliper and only then do I go around and do some very careful bleeding making sure to keep topping off. I end up using maybe 1/2 liter more this way by continuously topping off but it has saved me from having to bleed more than once every time now. This saves you tremendously in time and frustration. This is gravity bleeding the entire time. I've never done a power bleed at all. This is also just me pumping the pedal and opening and closing the bleed screws. I'm VERY CAREFUL to pump the pedal SLOWLY and not all the way to the floor. If you do it right you can get away with it but once you get air back up into the system you are in for a full bleed (if not a few) with abs cycling.

Mike

[LINDW4LL]

Has anyone tried the other variants that come already painted? There are all those suffix letters that seem to indicate colors, but some of them have no description. I have sent an email to merriam but they want a vin # and say they don't cross-fit parts. I don't really want to say it is for an S4 because it might cause them to mark up the price like the Q5s..

I kinda want to bite the bullet on a red set, # 95B-615-123-E The last letter being the only difference, I have no reason to believe it wouldn't be the same caliper, but painted red. Do you guys think it could be an other caliper type that wouldn't fit?
I suspect that part number with the "E" suffix is for the Turbo/GTS calipers- which are a different six piston caliper and fit a larger 360mm disc.

Reason being, there's no red caliper option for the base Macan, which is the only model these "Q5" Brembos come on, while red calipers come equipped only on the Turbo and GTS models (without PCCB)

[Phil.Lmbrt]

I suspect that part number with the "E" suffix is for the Turbo/GTS calipers- which are a different six piston caliper and fit a larger 360mm disc.

Reason being, there's no red caliper option for the base Macan, which is the only model these "Q5" Brembos come on, while red calipers come equipped only on the Turbo and GTS models (without PCCB)

Wow, it would be very confusing if it is exactly the same part # with just the last letter being different for a 4pot vs 6pot caliper [headbang] I am currently exchanging emails with a Porsche dealer here in Quebec about this. I asked them what all the variants actually are ! Hopefully, they'll have an answer for me !

Edit : Actually you might be right.. I cannot find a base macan for sale that has anything than the matte black 4pot calipers[confused]

[Dobbler]

Is it possible to keep the stock rotors and swap in new calipers and pads? I only have 17k miles on the odometer so plenty of rotor life left.

[tar]

Is it possible to keep the stock rotors and swap in new calipers and pads? I only have 17k miles on the odometer so plenty of rotor life left.

Yes.

[chilort]

Is it possible to keep the stock rotors and swap in new calipers and pads? I only have 17k miles on the odometer so plenty of rotor life left.

Might want to go ahead and check the rotors while you've got the car this far apart. I did my first pad change around 20k miles and did the rotors at the same time.

[as an aside, I installed ECS Geomet with slots and then went to the Apikol 2-piece at around 50k miles on the odo. Just had the Apikol's turned (only the passenger side was warped) and I'm hoping I get another 60k+ miles out of them before a re-ring job. I'm very happy with the life of the Apikol rotors as quite a bit of the life of those rotors was dealing with Atlanta traffic.]

[BIG_ROOSTER]

Well this thread has exhausted merriam’s stock they canceled my order


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[Phil.Lmbrt]

Well this thread has exhausted merriam’s stock they canceled my order


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You could check with a more local Porsche dealer, maybe they carry some in their inventory !

[chilort]

Well this thread has exhausted merriam’s stock they canceled my order


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I suspect that someone has figured out that something is up.

Finally found my old Dell only to remember that it has Vista it and I couldn't get the Ross-Tech VCDS to actually load.

[BIG_ROOSTER]

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Tried another online dealer and got that response.


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