Figured it's about time I post

[thedanplasse]

Head: ✔
Decked. ✔
Port, and Polish. ✔
New valve guides. ✔
OEM Cam chain tensioner. ✔
OEM Cam chain. ✔
All OEM gaskets, and seals. ✔
Ferrea exhaust valves (standard size) ✔
Integrated Engineering springs, and retainers. ✔
Integrated Engineering valve seals. ✔
Oem hydraulic lifters. ✔
Cat cams 3658 cams. ✔
IE adjustable cam gear. ✔
AGN valve cover. ✔
Custom catch can setup, Ringer racing vented catch can. ✔

Bottom end: ✔
058 block, allign bored, honed, and decked. ✔
NLS block breather adapter. ✔
Pinned, Polished crankshaft. (Balanced) ✔
JE forged 83mm 8.5:1 pistons. (Balanced) ✔
Integrated Engineering 144X20 forged rods. (Balanced) ✔
Mahle Motorsport main bearings. ✔
ACL race rod bearings. ✔
OEM gaskets, and seals. ✔
IE manual Timing belt tensioner. ✔
Continental Contitech timing belt. ✔
Fluidampr. ✔
ARP main studs. ✔
ARP head studs. ✔
ARP crank bolt. ✔

Turbo/Exhaust:✔
PTE6266 ported cold side .68ar hot side. ✔
JDL tubular manifold with T4 open flange. ✔
Tial 44mm mvs wastegate. ✔
JDL catless downpipe, 3" catback, Borla muffler. ✔

Intake:
Large plenum Apikol intake manifold. ✔
70mm S4 Throttle body. ✔
2.5" Intercooler piping.
Treadstone TR1235 Intercooler.
Tial BOV.

Fueling:
Bosch ev14 1000cc injectors.
Walbro 450 LPH fuel pump.
Aeromotive adjustable fuel pressure regulator. ✔
034Motorsports billet fuel rail. ✔

Tuning:
Eurodyne Maestro tuning suite me7.
AWM ECU. ✔
AEM Truboost ebc.

Suspension/Drivetrain:
Sachs Engineering twin disc, Four puck, Tilton style clutch. (Balanced)✔
ARP flywheel bolts. ✔
01E s4 6 speed trans(w/linkage, and shift box). ✔
S4 Driveshaft. ✔
S4 Front axles. ✔
S4 Subframe. ✔
S4 Rear diff. ✔
S4 Uprights w/hub, and bearings. ✔
SPC adjustable front upper control arms. ✔
FCP Euro front lower control arm kit. ✔
Bilstein PSS9's. ✔
034 Solid front subframe bushings. ✔
034 Solid rear subframe bushings. ✔
C5A6 Front strut brace. ✔
Stern engine mounts. ✔
Stern tranny mounts. ✔
Stern Diff carrier mounts. ✔
ECS Rear diff mount.
034 Snub mount.
034 Solid rear sway bar w/billet aluminum rear subframe reinforcement kit.

Brakes:
18z Front calipers. (Imola yellow) ✔
Rebuilt B5 S4 rear claipers. (Imola yellow) ✔
Apikol B6/B7 S4 adapters for 300mm rotors.
Stoptech Stainless lines.

Interior/Exterior:
S4 Front bumper w/cutout for large intercooler. ✔
S4 Rear valence. ✔
S4 sideskirts. ✔
S4 Grille. ✔
S4 Lower door mouldings. ✔
Brushed aluminum roof rails. ✔
Aerocatch 120 series locking hood pins. ✔
'96 "euro style" hatch. ✔
Depo ecodes.
Bride VIOS3 seats. ✔
S4 Gauge cluster. ✔
MOMO Mod.08 steering wheel.
Broken cup holder. ✔✔✔
Auto Power race rollbar.
Five point harness. (unsure what brand)
Custom Brushed aluminum door card delete panels.

Wheels/Tires:
225/40/18, 255/35/18 Michelin Pilot Super Sports. ✔
18x9 (???) Something light. maybe Ultraleggra's or RPF1's

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Picture of the day I bought it off my Girlfriend's Mom. (Gilrfriend standing next to me with the face of disapproval).

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How it sat before I started to rip it apart.

[Rodgman15]

Where'd the clutch come from? Can't say I've seen one of those before.

[thedanplasse]

Picked it up off a guy in Maine, super helpful since I'm new to the performance world.


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[dalazybastard]

I like pictures. Subbed and awaiting for more awesomeness.

Btw. Didn't see anything regarding suspension.


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[thedanplasse]

I like pictures. Subbed and awaiting for more awesomeness.

Btw. Didn't see anything regarding suspension.


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Well I bought that and brakes when I thought I'd be dailying it, like a dumbass I bought racelands but will be replacing that with bc racing probably. And the brakes I got the b5 s4 rears and I'll be running apikol adapters to run b6b7 300mm rotors. With 17z's up front. Planning on doing an 034 rear sway kit.


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[dalazybastard]

It's like you read my mind. I have similar plans for brakes.

Hope your "self control" leads to more goodies.


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[thedanplasse]

It's like you read my mind. I have similar plans for brakes.

Hope your "self control" leads to more goodies.


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I'm sure it will lol I'll be ordering the brakes in the next few weeks, but it'll take 4-6 to get them built and to my door.

[thedanplasse]

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Had a little time to work on the rear carriers got them all primed almost ready for their first coat of imola.

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While I was at it I blasted the rusty harmonic balancer to try and clean things up a little. I must say, having access to a media blaster is a privilege.

Was able to shave down all the un-necessary crap off the valve cover as well

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Cleaned off the dirty intake manifold and replaced all the injector seats. Since they were all brittle and cracked. (What a pain in the ass)

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Wrinkle black was used on those.

[b6Hate4]

Looking good man!

[thedanplasse]

Looking good man!

Thanks man, I m really hoping to make some good progress with the engine when taxes come in. hate seeing it bagged up in the garage. bought a crank off a fellow az member Saturday so I just need to buy my rods, arp main studs, and rod bearings and I can start assembling.

[b6Hate4]

Thats how I feel about my suspension, next week hopefully I'll have my 034 control arms and my full suspension setup, along with new rotors and pads.

[bikerbob951]

Glad you are doing a build thread! Sub'd

[thedanplasse]

Thats how I feel about my suspension, next week hopefully I'll have my 034 control arms and my full suspension setup, along with new rotors and pads.

When I bought the car the pads didn't exist, and the rotors were chewed up. so I did pads, and rotors all around. I opted for the full control arm kit from fcp along with coilovers, it was a new car....although very bouncy. cannot wait to do my 034 sway bar, and new coilovers. scored two brand new 225/40/18 Michelin pilot super sports for free so when I get my oz's im hoping the car will handle well.

[thedanplasse]

Jumped on cheap coils to daily it and maybe I was excited to do this....sadly the fronts didn't fit as perfectly lol

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so they'll just stay on the gti until I get rid of it.

[thedanplasse]

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Some small updates. Got the rear s4 calipers blasted and all cleaned up. I'll be tearing them down and cleaning them/rebuilding them. While they're apart I'll spray them imola to match the 17z's.


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[thedanplasse]

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Decided I'd brush it off so I could check if any Mice have been calling my glove box home. Been having a problem keeping them out of there while it sits in the winter.

I bought some repellant that I put in there a week ago and it really seems to do the trick, and it smells like Christmas trees.

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[Berlinetta]

I'm jealous. I'm talking to another AZer now to get some sport springs because the avant I bought doesn't even have the correct springs. Did you get rid of yours? I would be happy to get them if you don't need them.

Beautiful car. I just bought an avant myself. Sub'd for sure!

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[thedanplasse]

I'm jealous. I'm talking to another AZer now to get some sport springs because the avant I bought doesn't even have the correct springs. Did you get rid of yours? I would be happy to get them if you don't need them.

Beautiful car. I just bought an avant myself. Sub'd for sure!

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Thanks!

I still have my suspension that it came with when I bought it, but I can't confirm right now if they're stock or in good condition lol


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[nynoah]

what year is your avant?

[b6Hate4]

Does the S4 rear valence clip on to the bumper just like the front?

I've never seen them side by side, what is the difference besides the texture?

[thedanplasse]

what year is your avant?

2000


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[thedanplasse]

Does the S4 rear valence clip on to the bumper just like the front?

I've never seen them side by side, what is the difference besides the texture?

Yeah just clips on. Has two rivets that I had to drill out to get off the donor bumper it came on. The rest is just clips. And yeah it's just smoothed and painted instead of textured.


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[yxri]

Take a picture when you put in the brides. I'm getting some seats like that in March hopefully [emoji6]


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[thedanplasse]

Take a picture when you put in the brides. I'm getting some seats like that in March hopefully [emoji6]


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They're sitting there. Waiting for a little better weather to fab up some brackets. But they're just about where I'll want them. Came with brackets for a mk4 and sliders. Grabbed them for $300 so they'll do until I can get some recaros.


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[yxri]

They're sitting there. Waiting for a little better weather to fab up some brackets. But they're just about where I'll want them. Came with brackets for a mk4 and sliders. Grabbed them for $300 so they'll do until I can get some recaros.


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I'm waiting for a deal on Craigslist to pick up some bucket seats. New ones are crazy expensive ☹️


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[nynoah]

If you have not already planned for it a wide band conversion will make your tuning life better.

[thedanplasse]

If you have not already planned for it a wide band conversion will make your tuning life better.

Yeah I'm still trying to figure out exactly what I want to do.


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[DND]

Those rear calipers and carriers looked pretty scary, when I replaced mine I just bought new calipers (got a deal for $100) and only cleaned up and reused the carriers.
What did you prime them with for paining? My paint didn't stick evenly so if I ever do it again I would like to know the trick.

[thedanplasse]

Those rear calipers and carriers looked pretty scary, when I replaced mine I just bought new calipers (got a deal for $100) and only cleaned up and reused the carriers.
What did you prime them with for paining? My paint didn't stick evenly so if I ever do it again I would like to know the trick.

I ended getting the rear calipers for fairly cheap off a friend so I decided I'd rebuild them just to gain the knowledge. I was really unsure how they'd come out but they seem to be coming along. I used a self etching primer but I sand blasted them first anyway. It was duplicolor. But I'm sure any self etching primer would do.


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[thedanplasse]

I ended getting the rear calipers for fairly cheap off a friend so I decided I'd rebuild them just to gain the knowledge. I was really unsure how they'd come out but they seem to be coming along. I used a self etching primer but I sand blasted them first anyway. It was duplicolor. But I'm sure any self etching primer would do.


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Decided to order the rebuild kit today for the rear calipers off partsgeek went with the "CENTRIC 143.33016" kit that I saw on another thread. hopefully have the calipers apart this weekend. While they're apart I'll prep, and paint them.
Will be followed up with pictures.

[Berlinetta]

Did you also grab a pair of S4 side skirts as well? I have some that I plan on putting on my avant. If you are, wondering if you could take pics of step by step process. Thanks!

[thedanplasse]

Did you also grab a pair of S4 side skirts as well? I have some that I plan on putting on my avant. If you are, wondering if you could take pics of step by step process. Thanks!

I do have a set sitting in my spare room. There's a couple of threads already with a diy.

[thedanplasse]

Had some free time after helping my father bolt up his ghia to the rotisserie, so we cut the subframe bushings out of the s4 subframe, so I could replace them with solid 034 ones.

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Half way there

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With the help of a fein it only took about 20 minutes. With the time we saved (thinking it'd take about an hour or more) I had enough time to pull the pistons out of the rear s4 calipers I got

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I wish I could've gotten farther on them, but I couldn't seem to get the brake hoses off. So I'm soaking them to free them up. Just last year I put mkv r32 calipers on my mkv gti, and stripped out both rear bleeders, and snapped off one of the fronts, so I'm a bit weary, I'd rather take my time...plus I had better plans

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[thedanplasse]

Small update:

So after two days of pb blaster on the brake lines I was able to pull them out. Previous owner tightened the hell out of one and actually stretched/bent the male end

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And I got the bleeders out without breaking any off (weary because of my last go at rebuilding brakes)

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[thedanplasse]

Just snagged a bnib set of arp main studs for $75
All that's left to assemble is arp head studs, cat cams, scat rods, and calico rod bearings.

[Seerlah]

Nice grab!

[thedanplasse]

Gotta love when your girlfriend knows a guy who bought main studs for a gas engine by accident. He's (re)building his tdi. So I had her lowball him. The wonders of boobs.

[Seerlah]

LoL

[thedanplasse]

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Not really much to update. Been working on getting my father's ghia all ready for the body shop. Got a few minutes to clean all the crap off the subframe. Getting ready for sand blasting and undercoating. Then 034 solid bushings

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[thedanplasse]

Correct me if I'm wrong...2000 (facelift) ATW, Swapping an AEB (with a drive by wire s4 throttle body), running an AWM ecu. Keep the ATW harness, run a wideband harness adapter, with a wideband o2 sensor. I wont have to swap cluster, or pedals. So I can run Eurodyne. Good thing is I have the ATW harness, and I bought an AWM harness and ecu over the summer.

Any tuning gurus want to chime in?

[thedanplasse]

So I'm working on getting a little farther on my rear calipers. They're completely disassembled now.

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Safe to say they needed to be rebuilt.
Bringing the crank to my uncles shop right now to clean and mic it. If everything checks out I'll send it to a local shop to get it knife edged and balanced with the pistons and rods. Rods will be ordered within the next month.

[thedanplasse]

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After micing the crank found out that the mains are under by .001 and the rods are under .0015 so I'll probably have to run oversized bearings. I'll have to look more into it. If anyone wants to chime in.

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Scraped out all the o ring surfaces so I can start rebuilding my calipers.

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Honed out the caliper to remove corrosion, and rough surfaces.

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And got the first coat of primer on them. Ready for paint.

[Seerlah]

I would plasti gauge to confirm. Skeptical all tolerances are off. I have some brand new rod bearings laying around I can send you for testing. They are the cheaper lower end Meyle, though. Can't help you with main bearings.

[thedanplasse]

I have some main bearings laying around my house I guess I could use. Did all the measuring at my uncles machine shop with info I got from the service department at Audi


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[Seerlah]

Just find it hard to accept all tolerances to be off. I do not accept coincidences or accidents...and this situation is beyond both with all clearances off the way they are. Plasti gauge to confirm. Won't be the first time Audi goofed. Willing to bet it passes the plasti gauge test.

[thedanplasse]

I definitely will...just to be sure but after getting this info and taking actual measurements of my crank...but who knows how precise these cranks are to what they're supposed to be measured at. I'll plastigauge it next weekend (since it's at my father's house an hour away) and see what the clearances are on the mains. I'm still going to have it knife edged so it will be at a machine shop regardless. Thanks for the input.

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[Seerlah]

No problem! Seen your post in the 1.8t tech section, but I'm the guy (a few other b5 guys too) who usually answers questions in that section. Figure post input in your build thread than over there.

[thedanplasse]

I appreciate it, man. I'll have to wait until i can buy my rods. I'm leaning towards scat, but I'm undecided if i want to get integrated engineering ones...I guess I'll buy those before I buy my cams.

If you know anyone selling some IE or Scat rods. let me know, I'm definitely in the market.

[ray4624]

rod brands dont really matter.
Most people who have bought eagle rods dont have issues.
Nothing wrong with scat.
I ran IE but thats just because i got a deal.
Any thoughts about going stroker? Id recommend it with that big holeset.

it isnt that much more work (just the boring and IM shaft machinig)...which idk if you have to do with the IE rods...i could be wrong.

great to see another Massachusetts build!

[thedanplasse]

rod brands dont really matter.
Most people who have bought eagle rods dont have issues.
Nothing wrong with scat.
I ran IE but thats just because i got a deal.
Any thoughts about going stroker? Id recommend it with that big holeset.

it isnt that much more work (just the boring and IM shaft machinig)...which idk if you have to do with the IE rods...i could be wrong.

great to see another Massachusetts build!

I've thought about it honestly, but I kind of wanted to keep it a 1.8 I don't know why..just something says keep it a 1.8
I'll probably buy the scat rods because I've seen good things about them, and they're only 400, but it's been slow at work so when it gets busy again I can justify buying them. Probably next month. Then I'll plastigauge all rod, and main bearing surfaces, just to make sure everything is ok.

[b6Hate4]

I've thought about it honestly, but I kind of wanted to keep it a 1.8 I don't know why..just something says keep it a 1.8
I'll probably buy the scat rods because I've seen good things about them, and they're only 400, but it's been slow at work so when it gets busy again I can justify buying them. Probably next month. Then I'll plastigauge all rod, and main bearing surfaces, just to make sure everything is ok.


Meant to ask you, what are you expecting/ hoping for power? Or are you just rollin with it?

[thedanplasse]

Meant to ask you, what are you expecting/ hoping for power? Or are you just rollin with it?

Kind of just rolling with it, but i've been talking to some guys, and judging the power kind of off that....Hoping to get 450whp after the head build, and the meth. I know its hard to achieve, but again..I never expected to be this far into my build...Bought the car, and was just expecting to daily it. Then I had the idea to buy an Aeb, not split it open, and run a t3t4...440cc tune and just have a fun car, then this happened lol. So I'm willing to spend the time<and money to get to that goal. Keep in mind, this is my first engine build, so I'm doing this to expand my knowledge, learn and have some fun. I think thats why I'm going so far with it. Just to say I have, and familirize myself. Plus I've met a few guys who I'm glad I've met, and are super willing to help with any annoying questions i have.

[b6Hate4]

Kind of just rolling with it, but i've been talking to some guys, and judging the power kind of off that....Hoping to get 450whp after the head build, and the meth. I know its hard to achieve, but again..I never expected to be this far into my build...Bought the car, and was just expecting to daily it. Then I had the idea to buy an Aeb, not split it open, and run a t3t4...440cc tune and just have a fun car, then this happened lol. So I'm willing to spend the time<and money to get to that goal. Keep in mind, this is my first engine build, so I'm doing this to expand my knowledge, learn and have some fun. I think thats why I'm going so far with it. Just to say I have, and familirize myself. Plus I've met a few guys who I'm glad I've met, and are super willing to help with any annoying questions i have.

Not to throw jabs at anyone but I have found "power mod" guys are a LOT more down to earth and helpful when you need it vs. the asthetic mod guys.

450whp is pretty burly though!

[thedanplasse]

Not to throw jabs at anyone but I have found "power mod" guys are a LOT more down to earth and helpful when you need it vs. the asthetic mod guys.

450whp is pretty burly though!

Yeah I've noticed that too, after being a part of the "stance scene" for almost a decade. Nobody wants to help, or share experiences like offset, and shit. But again you have a lot of idiots who don't want to do research, and want everything handed to them...so I guess it goes either way. But when I have questions, or concerns here it seems I have a handful of people who are happy to lend a hand...It's a nice change lol.

[Seerlah]

That's what we do!

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[thedanplasse]

Just picked up my arp main studs [up] $75 sweet deal.

[Rodgman15]

Do you have access to E85?? Amazing fuel. It's unreal its capabilities, if you do have it local to you, i'd suggest going that route. With the shitty pump 91 (highest pump octane available to me), I was only able to get about 5psi on my HX35 before it started knocking like a bitch. Switched to E85 and hit over 30psi that same day. Meth will certainly help, but the fuel accounts for a lot.

[thedanplasse]

I'll probably end up tuning it on 93 and meth just out of convenience. Sounds like your timing was a little off for the ethanol content of running just 91.

[Rodgman15]

I'll probably end up tuning it on 93 and meth just out of convenience. Sounds like your timing was a little off for the ethanol content of running just 91.

Very well could be. Using Maestro 7, haven't touched the timing settings at all, don't know what's "safe" and what's not!! I've seen plenty of good results on 93, i'm excited to see what you end up putting down!

[b6Hate4]

Very well could be. Using Maestro 7, haven't touched the timing settings at all, don't know what's "safe" and what's not!! I've seen plenty of good results on 93, i'm excited to see what you end up putting down!

200whp lol

[Rodgman15]

200whp lol
Lol god I hope for his sake it's more than that!

[thedanplasse]

Imagine....lol

[thedanplasse]

Scored a set of Bilstein PSS9's for $375. Picking them up on Tuesday!

[thedanplasse]

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Pulled the head apart. Bringing it to work on Monday to throw in the parts washer for the day. Hopefully pulling the valves out this week. Port and polish coming soon.

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My old man working on polishing the Porsche fan for his ghia build...wonder where I get it from...?

[thedanplasse]

I've been cleaning the head in the parts washer at work since 9:30. This is what it looked like prior to any cleaning.

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After a few hours of annoying humming from the parts washer, and a little bit of scrubbing with a mild scuff pad, this is what she looks like now.

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I'll be running it for the rest of the day (until 5:00) and see where that leaves me. Hoping to have some free time this Wednesday after work to pull the valves, springs, and retainers.
Just picked up some IE valve seals while I'm in there. Replacing the exhaust valves with the Ferrea valves, and the springs and retainers with the IE set.

[thedanplasse]

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Tonight's pick up. Bilstein pss9's. Gotta clean 'em up, and make sure the collars aren't frozen.

[thedanplasse]

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Pulled all the valves/springs/retainers out today at work. Got the valve seals out on the exhaust side. Have to buy a special narrow tool to pull the intake side seals. If anyone has any experience with that...

[thedanplasse]

Walked over to audi to grab the valve seal puller for the intake valves. We managed to pull the exhaust side using some angled pliers, but didnt even try on the tighter intake side. Should've just used that from the beginning.

[Seerlah]

I used long needle nose pliers to get mine out. I plan on picking up a cheap generic tool to place new ones on, though. Want them seated properly and not quite sure I have the skills to pull it off with pliers.

[thedanplasse]

I posted in the bullsh*t thread the part number for the pullers..I'll find out the one for the installer, and post it later in there too. The guys at my Audi store are really helpful, they let me use theirs, and offered me the installer, but it needs to get ported and polished first. I pulled all the exhaust ones with pliers, but it was a huge pain in the ass. Took the 12 intake ones out in about 10 minutes with the right tool.

[Seerlah]

Why not use a generic kit?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-Valve-Stem-Seal-Plier-Seating-Pliers-Remover-Installer-Tool-Kit-Set-/311819149490?hash=item4899dea0b2:g:504AAOSwSlBYwPp b

[thedanplasse]

Because I got to use the Audi one for free. I work at Lexus for the same company and they're in the same lot. Plus it's a cool slide hammer that makes it way easier.


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Cleaned all the intake valves. I'm not replacing them, but now they're clean of all carbon buildup.


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[Seerlah]

Oh, thought you were paying like $50-125 per tool. Can't beat free, unless some pays you [confused].

[thedanplasse]

Nah. I'm technically an employee at Audi but it was a huge favor for the shop foreman to let me take the special service tool from there for a few minutes. [emoji1360]


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[Seerlah]

Cool, indeed!

[JMG]

Nice work! I'm really enjoying this build, thanks!

[thedanplasse]

Thanks! I'm glad someone is enjoying it. I'm really excited to put something back together for once lol. There's so much going on that I can't really focus on one thing. Building the head, the bottom end, doing a whole drivetrain swap, fixing the exterior, interior work, brakes, new suspension, doing all new mounts. Just redoing everything. It's a little overwhelming, but I'll get there eventually.


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[b6Hate4]

Thanks! I'm glad someone is enjoying it. I'm really excited to put something back together for once lol. There's so much going on that I can't really focus on one thing. Building the head, the bottom end, doing a whole drivetrain swap, fixing the exterior, interior work, brakes, new suspension, doing all new mounts. Just redoing everything. It's a little overwhelming, but I'll get there eventually.


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I feel you on that one.

[Seerlah]

I've been doing my build since like '12.

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[thedanplasse]

I feel you on that one.

Zach. You have a running driving car though. I know it's still being built but you got to at least enjoy it for a little. *jealous*


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[thedanplasse]

I've been doing my build since like '12.

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I've been saying #thedanplasse10yearbuild

[Seerlah]

Cool part id I can still drive my car as build continues. I still have a bare 06A block and FSI crank hanging around for the build to continue...[facepalm]

[thedanplasse]

Hopefully ordering my cams/lifters, but I know I should buy rods/bearings/main bearings. Not sure what to do.


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[thedanplasse]

Cool part id I can still drive my car as build continues. I still have a bare 06A block and FSI crank sitting in my garage for the build to continue...[facepalm]

Yeah I mean....I guess I could drive the car now since the original motor/trans is still in it but....it's slow as fuck lol. It won't boost past 4K, and I don't want to fix it.

[Seerlah]

Cheap ebay rods. Eagle or RPM may be the most cost efficient. Most come from the same foundry with QC done by companies to ensure things like +/-1 gram weight differences when they arrive. Then they dress them up in fancy boxes and stamp a company logo on them. Some companies like to market them for more money than others because many like buying brand names. Added relevance to the matter, while I conjecture they spend the money for security reasons. But really, they are all the same sh*t. Added reasoning of my opinion in there, but the foundry info is credited to an old vendor (not going to name names, because some like him while others don't. me personally, I care less). Only real differences they do is rifle drilling, and that cost can be justified. But you have oil squirters, so not exactly a necessity.

I run Brute rods currently because I got a deal with pistons on them for price of rods brand new. If I plan to build next block on the side I def need another form of transportation (have a Maxima right now too, but I don't know what tomorrow nor the next 5 seconds holds for my life) to dismantle my current block, or will just pick up a deal for cheap ones if they pop up. Wanted to add the aforementioned is for H beam rods, and not sure about I beam because companies like Pauter have been around for a while before other companies started offering I beams. But I will just pick up cheap ebay rods, as they are the same sh*t (I don't trust all ebay, but Eagle can be sought there for cheap along with RPM). As for bearings Glyco all around does many justice, along with me. Trick is utilizing your internet shopping skills, which seems you already have the knack for.

[thedanplasse]

Honestly, I'm just waiting for someone who bought IE or Scat rods, and decided they didn't want to use them. I picked up a set of JE Pistons for $350 shipped so if I can pick up some rods for around $300 I would be thrilled. Mind you, that's only $95 less than new scat rods. But $95 is $95. I want to use Mahle race bearings, but again, I want to wait for someone selling a new set that didn't use them. I can wait. I have a lot of disassembly/assembly to do.


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[thedanplasse]

Updated the first post with a parts list. [up]

[thedanplasse]

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Valve seals came in. There's something satisfying to me about things like this.

[b6Hate4]

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Valve seals came in. There's something satisfying to me about things like this.

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[thedanplasse]

Just ordered my Integrated Engineering rods. 144x20 non rifle drilled. Will be ordering my Cat Cams 3658's within the next couple of weeks. Just have to order lifters, and cam chain tensioner. Then the head will be ready to assemble after port, and polish. Once that's done, I'll order the bearings, and arp head studs, Then I can mate the head, and block. I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[thedanplasse]

Probably pulling the engine, subframe, tranny, driveshaft, and diff this weekend. I'll start to have some actual progress finally.

[thedanplasse]

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Had some time today with the nice weather to throw some metallic black engine paint on the block today. Not very noticeable, but it's a nice subtle touch. Even though it won't be seen.

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Took advantage of the parents being gone, watched their house this weekend while they're on vacation, had all the time in the world to get some real progress done on the b5. Got the engine/trans/axles/full exhaust pulled. When my solid subframe bushings get ordered I'll be able to pull my subframe/coilovers/control arms/uprights. Then I can replace it with my S4 subframe/new FCP control arms/S4 uprights/Bilstein pss9's. Still have to order my 17z's.


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[b6Hate4]

Looking good man!

[thedanplasse]

Looking good man!

Thanks! I had a little bit of time yesterday, while cleaning all the fluids off my parent's driveway, to put a few coats of metallic engine paint on the engine mounts.

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034 Billet subframe bushings have just been ordered. Now I can start putting the s4 subframe together with my control arms/coilovers/uprights.

[thedanplasse]

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Gumby was right...these are a pain to install. Guess I'll just sit them there until I have time to start dremeling away.

[Gumby]

Gumby was right...these are a pain to install. Guess I'll just sit them there until I have time to start dremeling away.

Yeah, they aren't fun. Haha

These are basically what I used on a die grinder to sand the holes in the subframe to get them to drop in.

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[thedanplasse]

Yeah, they aren't fun. Haha

These are basically what I used on a die grinder to sand the holes in the subframe to get them to drop in.

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I have almost that same set at home, but I forgot to bring them up to my parents to put them in. I was going to try and just gring down the weld inside the hole...it looks like that's the only thing that's stopping them from going in.

[NYEuroTuner]

Great thread man. Excited to see your progress [emoji106][emoji106]

[thedanplasse]

Thanks! It's slow going. Mostly parts hoarding as of now, but ill be sure to keep the thread updated.

[thedanplasse]

Spent about an hour trying to grind down a bushing mount on my subframe....no progress. Anyone put in solid subframe mounts have any tips for me?


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Imola rear brakes waiting for apikol rear brackets for 300mm b7 s4 rotors.

[Gumby]

Spent about an hour trying to grind down a bushing mount on my subframe....no progress. Anyone put in solid subframe mounts have any tips for me?


Try putting the bushings in the freezer before you try putting them in. That'll shrink them a tiny bit. Calipers look great too. [up]

[thedanplasse]

Try putting the bushings in the freezer before you try putting them in. That'll shrink them a tiny bit. Calipers look great too. [up]

Good idea...I'm going to see if I can get a hold of a press too. Thanks I had a friend mix up some imola in a can for me. I should probably get another one to make sure it's a good coat.

[thedanplasse]

Santorin blue s4 door blades are in. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/70f575d3b11b575587f65c3214112d72.jpg

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[b6Hate4]

Good god look at that 1.8 bay. It's amazing how much bullshit there is in that bay hahah. I wish the 2.7 was as shave-able as that.

[thedanplasse]

Got the mains torqued down and the studs stretched following the arp instructions. Now I'll be able to plastigauge for clearances. If everything goes well I'll send the crank, rods, and pistons to go get balanced. Then my bottom end will be ready for assembly.
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[thedanplasse]

Dropping the crank, pistons, rods, flywheel, and balancer off to get balanced on monday. Along with getting the block all remeasured for cylinder to piston clearance. While It's there It's also getting checked for line boring with the new arp hardware. Here's to hoping I dont need to drop $1500 on machining. Hopefully have it back for under $500. Getting it all quoted beforehand.

[thedanplasse]

Got a couple coats of high temp gloss clear on the calipers. Will be assembling them this weekend. Should be good as new.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170510/519f806f624f3520bdcaad7159d9b688.jpg

[thedanplasse]

Dropped the block, and all short block parts off at the shop to get bored, decked, allign honed, balanced, crank pinned, and assembled. The previous shop I brought it to didn't do anything correctly. I'll have to get the block bored out .002. What's funny is I already bought pistons off another AZ'er, which were stated to be stock bore. After measuring them at the shop, we found out they are over sized by .002 so it works perfect. Had the crank measured and, it's in spec, so stock size bearings will work.

[thedanplasse]

Slow going while the block is at the shop. Not running a carpet, so I decided to strip out some of the useless brackets for the rear seat, and such. Glad I bought these spot weld drill bits for my mkv shaved bay project a couple years back.

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[thedanplasse]

Interior is a complete mess right now, and will get that sorted, but took the door cards out. Making templates for the aluminum covers that are taking place, and filling the holes. First owner of the car had some questionable speaker work done. Glad those are out. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170711/9e689afbb2827579e0a320496155aaad.jpg

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[thedanplasse]

Nothing big. Have to drop this off at the engine shop next week so they can balance everything. So I threw a couple coats of metallic black VHT engine enamel on. Will do clear tomorrow. Had to refinish it because it was rusty. Previous posts showed I blasted it down to bare metal, and primed it. Everything on the engine will be gloss metallic black except the wrinkle black valve cover, and intake manifold. Even those might be stripped and painted metallic gloss black.

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[thedanplasse]

Two coats of high temp gloss clear made the metallic really pop. Not bad for how it looked when I took it off.
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[thedanplasse]

Got the ball rolling on stuff I can do while the engine is at the shop. All metallic black.
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[thedanplasse]

After a couple months of procrastinating I finally got the solid bushings in. Gumby was right. That sucked. Thank God my uncle has a machine shop that I have access to. We had to grind down all the flaws in the bushing holes, and make sure there was a smooth surface before pressing them in so I didn't warp my subframe. The wonders of having the correct tools.

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Now to put the new FCPeuro control arms, along with the s4 uprights, sway bar, with new urethane bushings, and Bilsteins on for a complete front end replacement.

[thedanplasse]

Very quick polish up on the balancer, but a quick glimpse of what all the paint on the long block will looks like.
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[thedanplasse]

Did a little work on the lower motor mount brackets. Blasted the corrosion off of them for their coat of metallic black. Getting powerflex sway bar bushings for them as well.

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They could almost pass as NOS

[thedanplasse]

Put some black on the holset today. Sanded off the holset letters to have raised silver letters too. Came out pretty good for a spray can back yard job. Also did the lower engine mount brackets gloss black too. Hoping to have this engine bay looking neat, clean an shiny.
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[fR3ZNO]

Those engine mount brackets look soooo clean.

Also, is that the pineapple from Spongebob on your wrist?

[thedanplasse]

Those engine mount brackets look soooo clean.

Also, is that the pineapple from Spongebob on your wrist?

They got a coat of gloss metallic black too, just havent taken any pictures of them for updates, honestly just been too pumped on how the cold side came out.
Yes sir it is spongebobs house. Too bad spongebob got worse as it went along, shouldve cut it off after the 4th season. Also have fry from Futurama on my leg.

[fR3ZNO]

They got a coat of gloss metallic black too, just havent taken any pictures of them for updates, honestly just been too pumped on how the cold side came out.
Yes sir it is spongebobs house. Too bad spongebob got worse as it went along, shouldve cut it off after the 4th season. Also have fry from Futurama on my leg.

Yeah, the cold side came out good too. Did you use engine enamel on it?

Like a lot of other shows it did go downhill after awhile. Thankfully the episodes of Futurama after it initially got cancelled were pretty good.

[thedanplasse]

Yeah, the cold side came out good too. Did you use engine enamel on it?

Like a lot of other shows it did go downhill after awhile. Thankfully the episodes of Futurama after it initially got cancelled were pretty good.

I'm almost positive they got cancelled twice. But they cut it off at the right time, when it was still good. Although I wish it was still on.

Yeah I used VHT metallic engine enamel, and VHT gloss clear on all of the pieces I've painted black.

[fR3ZNO]

I'm almost positive they got cancelled twice. But they cut it off at the right time, when it was still good. Although I wish it was still on.

Yeah I used VHT metallic engine enamel, and VHT gloss clear on all of the pieces I've painted black.

They were on Fox, got cancelled. Then they had a few hour long specials. Finally came back with normal episodes for a bit.

Are you gonna do anything with the hot side? Maybe get it ceramic coated black too?

[thedanplasse]

They were on Fox, got cancelled. Then they had a few hour long specials. Finally came back with normal episodes for a bit.

Are you gonna do anything with the hot side? Maybe get it ceramic coated black too?

Benders big score, I believe, was the first hour long special after cancellation. Watched the series from beginning to end at least 10 times on netflix. Girlfriend just bought me the box set [:D] she has a matching Leela on her leg too.

Thats exactly what I'm going to do. I have VHT textured black shaved valve cover, and intake mani, but I will be stripping those back down, and doing them to match everything else. Theres a guy building a crossflow for his mk2 that i came across and it made up my mind to do everything gloss black.

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Pic of said crossflow.

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Pic of said tattoos.

[xdewaynex]

Turning out nice. With all the black, wouldnt it be hard to pinpoint leaks if they were to occur over time?

[fR3ZNO]

Benders big score, I believe, was the first hour long special after cancellation. Watched the series from beginning to end at least 10 times on netflix. Girlfriend just bought me the box set [:D] she has a matching Leela on her leg too.

Thats exactly what I'm going to do. I have VHT textured black shaved valve cover, and intake mani, but I will be stripping those back down, and doing them to match everything else. Theres a guy building a crossflow for his mk2 that i came across and it made up my mind to do everything gloss black.

Pic of said crossflow.

Pic of said tattoos.

Yep, then Beast with a Thousand Backs was the other special, I think.

Gloss black all the things! lol. All black will definitely look good and will hide dirt better than all white or something.

Awesome tattoos!


Turning out nice. With all the black, wouldnt it be hard to pinpoint leaks if they were to occur over time?

Leaks would attract dirt and dust which should be somewhat easy to spot.

[thedanplasse]

Turning out nice. With all the black, wouldnt it be hard to pinpoint leaks if they were to occur over time?

I'll cross that bridge when the time comes. Hopefully everything is done correctly, so I should be ok *knocks on wood*. But everything should nice, and clean so a leak (if immediate) should be easy to spot. *shrug* or at least thats what I'm telling myself.

[thedanplasse]

Took a break from B5 stuff to enjoy the GTI with friends since I fixed it, and will be trading for a B5S4 soon. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170812/3cb102e850ccdda003e7e46adf62426c.jpg

[thedanplasse]

The cleaning up, and painting commences. Turbo is back together. Took the sway bar out to sand down and paint. And took the remaining door cards out along with the lower half of the dash. Still have to take out the rest of the sound deadening I put down when I thought I was going to run a carpet. Slow progress, but it's progress.

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[thedanplasse]

Said s4 I'm trading for. Taking the bags out and putting coils in. I'm a glutton for punishment so I'm planning on dailying it. Still enjoying the GTI for the time being. Took the sway bar out and painted it metallic black, after I sanded down all the rust.
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[b6Hate4]

Is that parkers car?

[thedanplasse]

Is that parkers car?

Nope. A local guy from Fall River.

[thedanplasse]

Powerflex FSB bushings came in. Just have to blast, and paint the subframe, Then time for replacement.

[thedanplasse]

Went to the pick and pull and scored a C5 A6 strut bar for $15. I have already brushed, and cleared the aluminum center, and the brackets have already been blasted, and painted gloss black.
I will be trimming, and fitting it once I put the new suspension, and subframe in.

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Blasted, and painted the front sway bar bushing brackets metallic black.

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And my Powerflex black series bushings came in as well. Hopefully soon I can get the complete front suspension back in the car, with new control arms, and be ready to swap the S4 drivetrain in.

[dalazybastard]

Did you trim the bar already?

When I used a C5 A6 bar, I had to use the inner holes as my new outer ones. Redrilled new inners and then trimmed/cut the edges of bar to match the original chamfer.

Pretty simple. Using the c5 bar is way easier than using a b5 bar.



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[thedanplasse]

No not yet. That'll all be put in when I replace the subframe and front suspension.

[thedanplasse]

I did score a pair of 255/35/18 Michelin Pilot Super Sports though. Those will match the 225/40/18 Super Sports I already have. Not bad for a completely free set of tires.

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[thedanplasse]

Blasted the manifold yesterday because I changed my mind about the textured black I had originally painted it. Spent a little time today sanding down all the texture from casting, and filed down all the seams. Will sand by hand tonight, and get ready for the metallic black paint in the next few days.

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[Seerlah]

Making like a both show&go car. Decent car choice to dive in for it. Ways have been already paved to make the goofs minimal. It just isn't cheap to do it on this platform vs say...a Subaru.

[thedanplasse]

Trying to stay away from making it a show car, but I started painting things a certain color, and I'm sticking with it. I don't want it to be a complete show car, but I want it to look decent, and not just thrown together using junk parts. I'm so used to building things to look nice. that's why I chose to build this car differently...but I always find myself looking at parts, and wanting to do something different with them. The engine bay will have all metallic black parts in it. But I've chosen to have a stripped interior to go with the "go not show" aspect of the car.

[Seerlah]

I thought you were just cleaning up the interior, not stripping it. I would keep the interior as stock looking as possible. That is the route I opted for, anyways!

[thedanplasse]

The interior was in disarray. Way too much money to repair all the scratched, cracked, faded, ripped, and stained components. I'm going to run an autopower roll bar, harnesses, and my brides (Until I can replace them with Recaro pole positions). I'll paint all the missed spots on the floor santorin blue to neaten it up a bit. Making custom aluminum door panels, so I dont have big holes in my doors. I want to make the car as light as I could too... Plus, I dont daily this car either. I'll be trading my gti for a b5 s4 soon, I'll keep that interior in, hah.

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Plus I did this with my GTI...so going the other route is new to me...kinda refreshing to be doing something different for myself.

[Seerlah]

Make sure you get the A4 daily driveable before picking up the S4. That "non" daily can easily become one after picking up the S4. It isn't like the inline 4s you are accustomed to.

[thedanplasse]

I daily drive my a3.
Race car a4.
Show car GTI (trading for the s4).
Eventual project '60 bug.
The s4 has a lot of maintenence done to it, but I plan to go though it with a fine tooth comb before eventually selling the a3, and dailying the s4.

[Seerlah]

Didn't know you had an A3. Pics?

[thedanplasse]

2010 facelift premium plus black on black. 2.0t "Quattro" dsg. Nice daily.
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[fR3ZNO]

You gonna start a build thread for the bug too? haha. I'd be interested in seeing that. My friend has a Type 3 squareback that makes me want to get an aircooled VW.

[Seerlah]

Very nice place to rest your head there, sir!

[thedanplasse]

You gonna start a build thread for the bug too? haha. I'd be interested in seeing that. My friend has a Type 3 squareback that makes me want to get an aircooled VW.

After I'm done with the really expensive, and time consuming part of this b5 build, I'll be switching focus to the bug, right now I'm helping my father with his '69 ghia. But we have to pull the 2100cc out of my moms '79 super beetle to put in the ghia, which will be replaced with a 1641cc for my mom since she "hates that race car motor".


Very nice place to rest your head there, sir!

I wish that was my house, thats the latest picture i took of the a3 at my friends sisters house near the bike path we went riding on. It is a really nice house though. I plan on moving to washington state within the next three years hopefully when the girlfriend moves back from cali for her job, and when I finish the b5, and my fathers ghia.
Finishing the ghia is high on my priority list..It's not everyday you get to build one of your fathers favorite cars with him.

[Seerlah]

Cool stuff!

[thedanplasse]

Not too much work went into this, and I still have to polish it once the paint dries fully, but the outcome is better than just using wrinkle black. It'll tie in with everything else in the bay. Valve cover is next.
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[thedanplasse]

Did some cutting, and drilling today to finally get that strut brace in. Looks like it's supposed to be there now. Painted the feet black, brushed, and cleared the bar.
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[thedanplasse]

Spent a while blasting the valve cover down yesterday, after changing my mind about the wrinkle black. Stuff is really hard to get off. Did a quick scuff, and got done painting it today. I'd say it's a hell of a difference. Can't wait to have the head done so I can paint that, and start assembly of a completely gloss metallic black long block.
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[Seerlah]

Didn't know why not to ask you! I need to replace the front passenger door and already picked it up. Any tips on swapping them out (just the door skin and retaining glass and what slides out with it. just door skin being swapped out)? I can build a motor, but really think I should have a shop do it for me. Opinions?

[thedanplasse]

Didn't know why not to ask you! I need to replace the front passenger door and already picked it up. Any tips on swapping them out (just the door skin and retaining glass and what slides out with it. just door skin being swapped out)? I can build a motor, but really think I should have a shop do it for me. Opinions?

I haven't taken my door skin off on the b5, If it's anything like the mkv it just unscrews off. When I took the door panels off, it looked like the window frame, and glass can be taken out with the motor as one whole assembly? I would imagine you could get it done fairly quickly, no way id pay a shop to do that for me...unless it needed body work (that's one thing I do not attempt to do) other than that, a couple hours time, and some beers should get it done.

Once I source a santorin blue passenger rear door skin, I'll be replacing that... so I could definitely let you know, afterwards.

[fR3ZNO]

Door skin as in the interior door card? Yeah, it's easy to remove on the B5. There are DIY's floating around. If you can build an engine you can do this. Basic overview is to pop out the plastic piece in the grab handle, remove a few screws hidden by it. Then there's two small screws on the top edge of the door. After that, slide the door card up. Remove wires and door pull cable.

Then the window frame and glass can be pulled as a single assembly after removing a few torx fasteners.

[thedanplasse]

Door skin as in the interior door card? Yeah, it's easy to remove on the B5. There are DIY's floating around. If you can build an engine you can do this. Basic overview is to pop out the plastic piece in the grab handle, remove a few screws hidden by it. Then there's two small screws on the top edge of the door. After that, slide the door card up. Remove wires and door pull cable.

Then the window frame and glass can be pulled as a single assembly after removing a few torx fasteners.

I think he means outer door skin. Which I've never done, but I feel like its easy enough...Especially with the experience Mitch has.

[fR3ZNO]

I think he means outer door skin. Which I've never done, but I feel like its easy enough...Especially with the experience Mitch has.

I see. It's def easy enough. Once you have the window frame and stuff out, you just have to unbolt the door skin from the hinges and fish the wiring harness out.

[Seerlah]

Yeah, outer door skin. Then need to transfer trim and weather strip for glass that is rivited.

[PringlesInVic]

When I swapped by back door it was very easy, the time consuming part was getting the gaps aligned, but that's something you can't rush. But, mine was a little easier as I just swapped out the whole window assembly. My new door already came trimmed and sealed. I bet you can do it no problem.

[Seerlah]

Yeah, I only have the door skin replacement. Swapping everything else. It's the alignment that has me on edge.

[fR3ZNO]

If you have a Bentley manual, the entire door alignment procedure is shown.

[thedanplasse]

Ghia is getting some love. Off to the metal shop for replacement of panels we have already, and fabrication of those that aren't available. It's been blasted, and coated in epoxy primer to seal in the bare metal.
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[Seerlah]

If you have a Bentley manual, the entire door alignment procedure is shown.

Dirty blonde hair moment...with rock star streaks. Didn't think to even look in the manual [facepalm]

[thedanplasse]

Dirty blonde hair moment...with rock star streaks. Didn't think to even look in the manual [facepalm]That's being said... I need one. Know of anyone selling one cheap?

[Seerlah]

I would try ebay, or torrent it free on The Interwebz.

[thedanplasse]

Bought this a while back for $40 thought the paint was trashed. Spent a few hours wet sanding, polishing, and sealing it, and this is the outcome. I'd say about 90% of the imperfections came out. Not too bad, and I think I can live with it. Always trying to learn new things, and honestly...paint correction is pretty fun. (although I'm far from mastering it)
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[xdewaynex]

Thats pretty amazing, hard to believe its the same color.

[thedanplasse]

Thats pretty amazing, hard to believe its the same color.

Keep in mind that the pictures were also taken at different points in the day, so lighting was a factor. But, I was pretty impressed with the results.

[thedanplasse]

Stopped by the engine shop today to drop off my new crank gear because my old one was starting to shear. Just waiting on me to throw more money at them, and to pin the crank that they were waiting on me to drop the gear off for lol. If anyone on here is around the Warwick, RI area...I highly recommend R Johnson & Son's, they're super knowledgeable with Audi's, and do great work.

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[thedanplasse]

Finally paid off the block, and got it back home.
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[thedanplasse]

Spent a little time at the shop blasting some more block parts.
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[thedanplasse]

Again. Just another media blasting update. Took the intermediate shaft apart, and cleaned the pieces up, already painted them black. New seals, and o rings going back on. Then re installation begins. (Not pictured) I finally got around to removing all the stripped Allen bolts holding both pulleys on the power steering pump. Said pulleys have been blasted and painted as well. Pump will be next.
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[xdewaynex]

Coming along nicely. My block is still at the machine shop, just waiting on the call. What freeze plug did you get for the hole where the block breather went? Only thing I could find was a rubber expansion plug.

[thedanplasse]

Coming along nicely. My block is still at the machine shop, just waiting on the call. What freeze plug did you get for the hole where the block breather went? Only thing I could find was a rubber expansion plug.40mm from any auto parts store. I had one in there previously, but took it out, and threw it away to run the stock breather. Until I found the adapter for a catch can line...so I put one back in lol. I used some sealant around it before I tapped it in just for peace of mind. Don't want that falling in at 8500rpm.

[xdewaynex]

I was in a hurry when I picked up the expanding one. Yea that would be pretty disastrous.

[thedanplasse]

I was in a hurry when I picked up the expanding one. Yea that would be pretty disastrous.

I think I paid like $3.50 for a new one at CAP, fits snug and looks neat.

Spent a little time last night finally working on the rear calipers I have been avoiding for the last 6 months. I couldn't get the inner snap ring back in, even after several attempts with different pliers. I ended up modifying a set of Gearwrench snap ring pliers to fit in there. Managed to get the ring in, but will have to wait until tomorrow to use the caliper piston depressors at work to get them all buttoned up.

Completely stripped the calipers down. Re-surfaced the Piston, and cylinder area. Blasted the bracket and calipers. Painted them imola yellow, and replaced all seals, and o-rings with a centric rebuild kit. Ordered new slide pins, boots and bolts as well. Should be better than the day they were built, when matched up with apikol brackets to run 300mm B6/B7 rear rotors.

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[Joe Jr.]

stuff looks good. your car will be clean once you get it all back together, for sure!

[thedanplasse]

stuff looks good. your car will be clean once you get it all back together, for sure!

Thanks, That was my plan. I wanted everything to be clean, Stripped down to bare metal, and painted metallic black. Any gaskets, and o-rings will be replaced. Same thing with the suspension, all bushings will be replaced with either high density poly, or aluminum. It won't be a daily driver so the cabin noise/vibration won't matter much to me. I want it to perform, and handle as best as it can.

[fR3ZNO]

Kinda late now, but I got a set of motorcycle master cylinder snap ring pliers that worked great for when I rebuilt B6 S4 rear calipers.

Clicky Click (https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-0279-Master-Cylinder/dp/B000WJJ4U6/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1516657141&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=motor+cycle+master+cylinder+pliers)

Calipers look great btw, I would be so paranoid about getting brake fluid on them lol

[thedanplasse]

Kinda late now, but I got a set of motorcycle master cylinder snap ring pliers that worked great for when I rebuilt B6 S4 rear calipers.

Clicky Click (https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-0279-Master-Cylinder/dp/B000WJJ4U6/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1516657141&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=motor+cycle+master+cylinder+pliers)

Calipers look great btw, I would be so paranoid about getting brake fluid on them lol

>_< I'm afraid of that too..Going to have to be very careful when I bleed them. But I also did my R32 calipers in brown to match the interior of my GTI when I did them, so I have a little experience. I'll post a picture of what I used to get the snap ring back in when I get back up to my parents house this saturday. Honestly even with the pliers it was hard to get the ring in until my dad came, and helped me with an extra set of hands.

[thedanplasse]

Got the Piston in. Word of advise. Put the boot on the bottom of the Piston, and put the boot in the caliper. When depressing the Piston in it'll slide in to place. Just so you don't have to disassemble the caliper to take the Piston back out :banghead:

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[thedanplasse]

NLS breather adapter came in.
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Now to start building my catch can setup. All black nylon braided hoses, -10 fittings, to a gloss black vented catch can mounted to the false firewall.

[thedanplasse]

Got my uncle (and his machine shop) involved. Making an oil drain spacer for the Holset. I know you can buy them, but I figured....why not make it ourselves. (mostly my uncle....ok I just watched). Made from cast iron for heat management.
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[thedanplasse]

Got the final coats of metallic black on the block. I'll be buying the intermediate shaft seal, and o-ring, and get that in. As well as the front and rear crank seals. Painting the oil pan metallic black (for asthetic reasons only) and putting that on as soon as I buy a new oil pump.
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[thedanplasse]

Finally started throwing things back at the engine. Front crank seal, and flange gasket, Intermediate shaft with a new seal, and o ring. Block breather adapter with a new gasket, oil filter housing with a new gasket, and passenger motor mount bracket. Ordering a new water pump, and thermostat soon. Then start putting the accessory bracket on.
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Blasted the oil pan, and hit it with a coat of metallic black. Once I buy a new oil pump, I'll bolt that back up too.

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[rockbeau25]

Nothing more satisfying than seeing shiny, perfectly painted parts


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[PringlesInVic]

Not to nit pick, because it looks great and your doing an awesome job. But I'm wondering with all the effort and care you've taken. Why didn't you blast all you bolts too? You plan on painting them after the fact? Crank seal plate looks great, except for the rusty bolts.

And to clarify, this has nothing to do with Rad support bolts.

[thedanplasse]

Nothing more satisfying than seeing shiny, perfectly painted parts


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Thanks. I figured I would take the time to coat everything, and make them look brand new (but black) since everything is apart.


Not to nit pick, because it looks great and your doing an awesome job. But I'm wondering with all the effort and care you've taken. Why didn't you blast all you bolts too? You plan on painting them after the fact? Crank seal plate looks great, except for the rusty bolts.

And to clarify, this has nothing to do with Rad support bolts.

I knew someone would say something lol. I have been refinishing all the bolts I've been using, But I forgot to do those. Kinda figured that it'll be under a timing cover, and nobody will see, plus I was a little eager to start re-assembly. I may pull those out just to refinish them for you. [;)] Still not doing the rad support bolts for Devon.

EDIT: I just ordered all new bolts, and washers for both front, and rear main flanges from audi for you lol.

[PringlesInVic]

I knew someone would say something lol. I have been refinishing all the bolts I've been using, But I forgot to do those. Kinda figured that it'll be under a timing cover, and nobody will see, plus I was a little eager to start re-assembly. I may pull those out just to refinish them for you. [;)] Still not doing the rad support bolts for Devon.

EDIT: I just ordered all new bolts, and washers for both front, and rear main flanges from audi for you lol.

Lol, thanks. Your logic makes perfect sense, they are covered. And I totally get the desire to get everything together.

[fR3ZNO]

EDIT: I just ordered all new bolts, and washers for both front, and rear main flanges from audi for you lol.

there better not have been any core support to frame bolts in that order

[Joe Jr.]

when you're done with your ride, can i send mine out for some of that custom stuff? lol. Really nice work! Good to follow along.

[Joe Jr.]

there better not have been any core support to frame bolts in that order

Dave just 6 of my 8 new non rusty bolts ...lol...we better see some pics of those on the support...lol.

[thedanplasse]

there better not have been any core support to frame bolts in that order

I promise lol. I'm using the shitty ones I have. I wont even blast or paint them either.


when you're done with your ride, can i send mine out for some of that custom stuff? lol. Really nice work! Good to follow along.

It's nice having a full machine shop at your disposal.


Dave just 6 of my 8 new non rusty bolts ...lol...we better see some pics of those on the support...lol.

Whenever I get to putting the car back together I'll post a picture proving I used them.

[fR3ZNO]

Dave just 6 of my 8 new non rusty bolts ...lol...we better see some pics of those on the support...lol.

Oh, you'll see them. They'll be the nicest hardware on the whole car. [>_<]

(if you're talking about my B5)

[Joe Jr.]

Oh, you'll see them. They'll be the nicest hardware on the whole car. [>_<]

(if you're talking about my B5)

I was but this is thedanplasse's thread so i let it be..lol

[thedanplasse]

LOL! whoops. Fine.....I won't send you guys a picture...

[fR3ZNO]

No, we still want the pic as proof and to rustle Devon's jimmies

[thedanplasse]

For Pringles. All new bolts and washers for the front flange from Audi.

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[thedanplasse]

Got the oil pan cleared and ready to be mounted. Just have to buy my oil pump.

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Inspected my wheel bearings, and decided I needed to replace them, so I pressed them out.

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Got the uprights blasted after I got the bearings and hubs out. They're in primer now. Getting ready to coat them in gloss black before re assembly.

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Then we got to work drilling out the hole for my valve cover vent.

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Needs to be completely pressed in but it's almost done.

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Also got the rusty frame rail bolts into a salt bath [>_<]

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[fR3ZNO]

Great work on those core support bolts [up]

[thedanplasse]

Lol. Thanks, I knew you would appreciate that.
Uprights are now in paint. Ordered new a OEM oil pump with hardware, OEM oil pan bolts, and a Victor Reinz rear main seal.
The block is coming together nicely.

[Joe Jr.]

That thing will be so clean and rust free you won't want it to get any weather there in MA. You're a bad influence. I was changing front brakes on mine this weekend and was disgusted that i had to put the calipers back on without having them powder coated...damn it. I decided i should order some new ones....

[thedanplasse]

That thing will be so clean and rust free you won't want it to get any weather there in MA. You're a bad influence. I was changing front brakes on mine this weekend and was disgusted that i had to put the calipers back on without having them powder coated...damn it. I decided i should order some new ones....

Rotorlab.com has killer deals on 17z's.
I'll be ordering from them eventually. I have the luxury of not needing to daily drive my car so I can have it apart for refinishing for as long as I need. I'm trying to make everything legit and clean as hell, so when I decide to race the car, it'll pass tech inspection quickly. Plus I have access to a shop I work at, a machine shop my uncle owns, and a spray booth (makeshift for spray cans) whenever I need it.

Plus...my family (Mom Dad, and Uncle) are all happy to help with my project. My Dad has been helping blast, and paint parts while I'm away at my house or work (car is at my parents house), my Uncle is obviously doing all the machining, and my Mom is reupholstering the inserts for my seats in a suede that matches my santorin paint. That, I can't be thankful enough for.

I'm just trying to take advantage of what I have right now. If I daily drove my car you could guarantee that I wouldn't have everything this clean. I'm glad I could be a bad influence to someone lol. We all need someone.

[thedanplasse]

Got the uprights painted, and ready for new F.A.G bearings.

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Blasted, and painted the strut mounts.

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And completed my vented valve cover. I spent a couple hours cleaning the cam cover to eliminate excess oil blow by.

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Got my new oil pump in, temporarily bolted the pan on (just waiting on my rear main seal to come in). Cleaned and put in the windage tray as well.

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Finally got the stubborn, seized bolts out of the power steering pump a couple weeks back, so I blasted, and painted the pump metallic black. Soon to be mated with the blasted, and painted black pulleys.

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[thedanplasse]

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Got to working on the windage tray. Apparently I was having some clearance issues with the arp main studs. I filed the tray to get them to fit.

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Got my Victor reinz rear main seal on so I could finally mount the oil pan.

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I used Toyota (FIPG) form in place gasket that I got from work. Apparently it's better, and recommended by the techs at Lexus. I guess Honda bond is the best.

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[thedanplasse]

Progress is finally being made to the bride's I bought. I figured I'd have my own little spin on the Nogaro s4 interior. My mother loves to sew so she's re upholstering the inserts with a dark blue suede that matches the Santorin paint perfectly. Obviously not done but it's getting there!
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[fR3ZNO]

Nice work! [emoji1360]

Really cool that family is involved too

[xdewaynex]

Seats are going to look good. My mom helped me wrap my headliner and things when I done my interior last year.

[thedanplasse]

Nice work! [emoji1360]

Really cool that family is involved too


Seats are going to look good. My mom helped me wrap my headliner and things when I done my interior last year.

Yeah, I'm blessed to have a family who is happy to help me with my projects. One of the reasons I've enjoyed building this car so far.

[thedanplasse]

Another piece of the puzzle that nobody will ever see. Brand new oem water pump painted to match everything else nobody will ever see lol.
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[rockbeau25]

Progress is finally being made to the bride's I bought. I figured I'd have my own little spin on the Nogaro s4 interior. My mother loves to sew so she's re upholstering the inserts with a dark blue suede that matches the Santorin paint perfectly. Obviously not done but it's getting there!
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Yay this is awesome. I love people that get creative with interiors. I've seen "cactus alcantara" and "imola alcantara" but you might be the first santorin alcantara.

[thedanplasse]

Yay this is awesome. I love people that get creative with interiors. I've seen "cactus alcantara" and "imola alcantara" but you might be the first santorin alcantara.

Thanks Rock, I'm super excited to see how this looks. I can't thank my Mom enough for all the work. I'd never be able to do this by myself.
I'd love to own a Cactus. It's my favorite b5 color after India red. I'd love to have either of those colors, really...But the more I deal with my Santorin paint, the more I like it.

[rockbeau25]

Thanks Rock, I'm super excited to see how this looks. I can't thank my Mom enough for all the work. I'd never be able to do this by myself.
I'd love to own a Cactus. It's my favorite b5 color after India red. I'd love to have either of those colors, really...But the more I deal with my Santorin paint, the more I like it.

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Pic of said cactus.

I have a huge soft spot of Santorin. So many good things happening in this thread, can’t wait to see it all together



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[thedanplasse]

Damn that looks good. My interior was so beat after years, and years of daily duty, and dog hauling (plus it was tan) It would've cost way too much for me to swap a whole S4 interior in...I know you know...And since I'm trying to make this thing as light as possible without too much un-reasonable work, I decided to run a stripped interior with only the top half of the dash, and two race seats. We'll see how it goes.

[rockbeau25]

Damn that looks good. My interior was so beat after years, and years of daily duty, and dog hauling (plus it was tan) It would've cost way too much for me to swap a whole S4 interior in...I know you know...And since I'm trying to make this thing as light as possible without too much un-reasonable work, I decided to run a stripped interior with only the top half of the dash, and two race seats. We'll see how it goes.

S4 interior swap is quite the process yeah.

I saw you mentioned earlier possibly racing it? What kind of racing and where?

[thedanplasse]

I want to road race it on local courses around my area. Thompson raceway in CT or Palmer motorsports park in Palmer MA. Also want to just be a highway monster with cars who want to play around. My friend who's helping me with stuff has a big turbo fd which makes almost 600whp, so it would be fun to cruise around with him.

[rockbeau25]

That’s awesome, road racing doesn’t get enough love here, especially with B5s. Too bad you’re east coast, my dad and I are building a track coupe Quattro this summer

[thedanplasse]

Hell yeah man, Building a car with my Father is something I'll never take for granted. It's alot of money and work though lol.

[Joe Jr.]

Rotorlab.com has killer deals on 17z's.
I'll be ordering from them eventually. I have the luxury of not needing to daily drive my car so I can have it apart for refinishing for as long as I need. I'm trying to make everything legit and clean as hell, so when I decide to race the car, it'll pass tech inspection quickly. Plus I have access to a shop I work at, a machine shop my uncle owns, and a spray booth (makeshift for spray cans) whenever I need it.

Plus...my family (Mom Dad, and Uncle) are all happy to help with my project. My Dad has been helping blast, and paint parts while I'm away at my house or work (car is at my parents house), my Uncle is obviously doing all the machining, and my Mom is reupholstering the inserts for my seats in a suede that matches my santorin paint. That, I can't be thankful enough for.

I'm just trying to take advantage of what I have right now. If I daily drove my car you could guarantee that I wouldn't have everything this clean. I'm glad I could be a bad influence to someone lol. We all need someone.

just saw this reply...dang forgot to check back in on your build. anyways i just ordered zimmerman front rotors last month. wish i had seen your link to Rotorlab before. I like supporting good small owned companies.

anyways, still enjoy seeing you paint all this shit and making it look better than new. I'm not as embarrassed now to tell someone that i spent hours underneath a fox mustang i had cleaning and painting the whole underbody on that car. I didn't finish that car, because i'm an idiot and thought i should sell it get something else. Live and learn...

[thedanplasse]

Water pump, accessory bracket, and power steering pump on. I forgot to paint the water pump pulley, so I blasted, and painted that today. Need to buy my arp crank bolt so I can actually bolt that up.

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Pressed my new wheel bearings in the uprights, along with my hubs that got painted to prevent rust (hence the goofy paint).

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[Joe Jr.]

that's it, i'm gonna do some black alcantara seats!

[thedanplasse]

Got the fan clutch on after blasting, and painting it. What a pain in the ass that little part was.

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Got the splash guards on the uprights. I forgot I had them, and in great condition. Anxious to see if they'll clear the 17z setup.

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[rockbeau25]

Race ya to see who gets the BBK and upright conversion done first

[thedanplasse]

Race ya to see who gets the BBK and upright conversion done first

You win lol. I have to buy cams, lifters, tensioner, chain, and gaskets/seals once my head comes back.

[rockbeau25]

You win lol. I have to buy cams, lifters, tensioner, chain, and gaskets/seals once my head comes back.

Well I have to buy wheel bearings, wheel speed sensors, axels, brackets, calipers, pads, brake lines, rear shock mounts, and numerous bushings so don’t count yourself out lol

[thedanplasse]

Well I have to buy wheel bearings, wheel speed sensors, axels, brackets, calipers, pads, brake lines, rear shock mounts, and numerous bushings so don’t count yourself out lol

Yeah. I still have to buy rear strut mounts too...and the brakes. So we'll see. A dollar to who ever wins.

[Joe Jr.]

Got the fan clutch on after blasting, and painting it. What a pain in the ass that little part was.

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Got the splash guards on the uprights. I forgot I had them, and in great condition. Anxious to see if they'll clear the 17z setup.

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have you thought about ditching the clutch fan for an electric at all? I hate those things too and want to swap mine out. I'm at least thinking about a switch for the electric fan so i can turn on when its hot during the summer.

[thedanplasse]

I have a friend who still runs his on his 600whp FD RX7. He's kind of been my guide through this engine build. So I'll keep it for now.

Depending on its performance, I may switch to an EFK...But if I don't need to, I'd like to stick with this.

Who knows...I may end up going that route, But for now I have enough on my plate. I don't want to replace (spend money on) things that will be just fine.

Thats how I see it (for now at least)

[Joe Jr.]

I have a friend who still runs his on his 600whp FD RX7. He's kind of been my guide through this engine build. So I'll keep it for now.

Depending on its performance, I may switch to an EFK...But if I don't need to, I'd like to stick with this.

Who knows...I may end up going that route, But for now I have enough on my plate. I don't want to replace (spend money on) things that will be just fine.

Thats how I see it (for now at least)

i hear ya. That Rx7 sounds fun.

[nunya]

Race ya to see who gets the BBK and upright conversion done first

I have 17Z's with 330mm fully floating rotors without the upright convertion. Apikol has brackets for them with their rotors, or you can use Mercedes rotor with a little machining.

--dillon

[thedanplasse]

I know that wasnt for me. I ended up getting the S4 uprights because I went to an 01E anyway. I'll be running Apikol's rear B6/B7 S4 brake conversion on the avant, as well as their rear diff mount bushings.

[rockbeau25]

X2 on the rear Apikol BBK. Was on the fence about it but found caliper at a price I can’t refuse. As far as the b6 uprights, it’s something I’ve always wanted to do, with the intentions of one day doing a BBK, but with the BBK I’m doing it’s kind of redundant, other than the weight savings and being a few cm lower and wider.

[fR3ZNO]

I know that wasnt for me. I ended up getting the S4 uprights because I went to an 01E anyway. I'll be running Apikol's rear B6/B7 S4 brake conversion on the avant, as well as their rear diff mount bushings.


any particular reason you went with B6/B7 rears instead of B5 S4? Bigger rotor?

[rockbeau25]

Nvm Tapatalk decided to erase half of what I wrote when I tried editing it.

[thedanplasse]

any particular reason you went with B6/B7 rears instead of B5 S4? Bigger rotor?

I'm runnig B5 S4 rear calipers I rebuilt, and refinished. I came across the kit to run B6B7 rotors which are 300x22 instead of the 256x22. So I figured for the money its a huge step up, especially from the 245x10 non vented A4 ones. Should work well with the 17Z's too.

*shrug*

Go big or go home, I guess.

[jaychen]

what did those bolts turn out like after being in the 'salt bath'?

cool build.

its been years since i did a 17z upgrade but i don't remember being able to fit the dust shields on mine.

[thedanplasse]

what did those bolts turn out like after being in the 'salt bath'?

cool build.

its been years since i did a 17z upgrade but i don't remember being able to fit the dust shields on mine.

Thank you!

If I need to modify the shields, or run without them I will. I'm running 345x30mm R32 brakes on my GTI, and I couldn't run the shields, so I'm not running anything, and I cant notice any downfall.

I took them out after I took the picture to rustle Devon's feathers, lol. I do still plan on running them as is for the same reason. I could easily refinish them, or even better buy new ones, but...I think this is a better option.

[rockbeau25]

Dan what are you doing for rotors? I’m doing 345x30 front and the same rears as you. So a complete b6/b7 s4 kit. Adams rotors is a lot more than $300 F/R shipped to your door like their ads say once you actually price it out. I contacted rotorlab since their website doesn’t have prices but they never got back. Not really sure where to go after that. I’m sure any nice slotted and/or drilled rotors like your typical stoptech, willwood, Brembo, etc will cost a small fortune.

[thedanplasse]

Dan what are you doing for rotors? I’m doing 345x30 front and the same rears as you. So a complete b6/b7 s4 kit. Adams rotors is a lot more than $300 F/R shipped to your door like their ads say once you actually price it out. I contacted rotorlab since their website doesn’t have prices but they never got back. Not really sure where to go after that. I’m sure any nice slotted and/or drilled rotors like your typical stoptech, willwood, Brembo, etc will cost a small fortune.

I haven't gotten quite that far yet. I was planning on walking next door to Mercedes because I get employee pricing there, but I'd like a thicker rotor than the 28mm ones youd get with OEM Mercedes ones. For the 17Z's I'll be running 330mm rotors, not 345mm rotors that the 18Z's run...BTW

When the time comes I'll do a bit of reading through the comprehensive brake upgrade thread you tried quoting earlier.

I'd like 2pc ones but I can't see spending that kind of money on just rotors.

[fR3ZNO]

The Volvo R rotors are the thicker 32mm ones IIRC, just need the mounting holes enlarged to accept the 5x112 pattern.

[thedanplasse]

The Volvo R rotors are the thicker 32mm ones IIRC, just need the mounting holes enlarged to accept the 5x112 pattern.

Let me take a stroll through the brake page now. It's been a while since I've lurked it. That's a great alternative Btw. Thank you.

17z 330mm BBK:
17z Caliper Rt Porsche 955 351 422 33/Touareg 7L6 615 124 H/Audi Q7 7L6 615 149
17z Caliper Lt Porsche 955 351 421 32/Touareg 7L6 615 123 T/Audi Q7 7L6 615 150
Mercedes Benz C230 330mm x 28mm rotors 203 421 13 12 *(machine center hub a few mm, drill lug bolt holes to 14mm, and need 2mm Apikol shim or steel washers)
or
Volvo V70R/S60R 306 452 22 330mm x 32mm *(open lug holes with a 3/4" bit, and minimal grinding to uprights)
Apikol 2-piece 330x32mm rotors
Apikol brackets
Requires new brake lines?Y
Confirmed fitment-Centric (Stoptech branded) 950.33005 brake lines

Hopefully the grinding will actually be minimal. We'll see what happens, but that's probably the route I'll take. I know Rotorlab says they machine the calipers to fit correctly over the rotor, so one side pistons arent over extended, so I'll be calling them again to confirm before ordering. I talked with him over the phone for about an hour when I originally called, and he's a super nice guy. Unfortunately all my money is tied up in my head for a while, so I wont be doing any brake upgrades for a little bit.

[rockbeau25]

Ideally I’d just get direct bolt ons. Don’t care to be drilling, shaving, shimming and whatnot. I’ll give rotorlab another call once I’m serious about buying. If their rotor prices are anything like their caliper prices that’s a no brainer.

[thedanplasse]

Ideally I’d just get direct bolt ons. Don’t care to be drilling, shaving, shimming and whatnot. I’ll give rotorlab another call once I’m serious about buying. If their rotor prices are anything like their caliper prices that’s a no brainer.

The volvo ones on FCPeuro are only $80 a piece....For that price I'll be going that route. The work needed to run them seems well worth it.

[Joe Jr.]

subscribing to this discussion....i'd like to do this with mine, and i like the idea of you all being the guinea pigs..That Rotorlab price for those 17z is pretty damn good, hard to pass up.

[fR3ZNO]

Let me take a stroll through the brake page now. It's been a while since I've lurked it. That's a great alternative Btw. Thank you.

Thanks! I read up on the 17Z writeup in the B6 section for awhile and contemplated doing it, then realized it's not really worth it for a DD.

I think last time I had a whole RockAuto cart set up, with reman 17Z calipers, lines, pads and rotors for about $600. So then a little more for the hardware through McMaster Carr.

[rockbeau25]

The volvo ones on FCPeuro are only $80 a piece....For that price I'll be going that route. The work needed to run them seems well worth it.

Are they slotted and/or drilled though?

[thedanplasse]

Nah, I'm all set with that for the most part. I like slotted rotors, but I hate cross drilled ones.

[$teady$upreme]

this level of detail, very impressive.