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thedanplasse
04-21-2018, 03:31 PM
Don't mind all the stupid foil tape I put down (I will be removing it when I find the energy to do so). I was planning on running a carpet, and having extra noise cancellation, but I went full stupid, and decided to gut the car.

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Took the dash out so I could take care of my mouse problem I've been having. I'll clean all under the pad to make sure all the "mess" is taken care of. It also allowed me to take the extra brackets out that were hanging below the trim since im not running the lower half of the dash.

My arp crank bolt, and flywheel bolts came in.

Problem being I can't fit the flywheel on with my current engine stand setup. Without that I can't torque my crank bolt down. I'll figure somethibg out on a later date.

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thedanplasse
04-23-2018, 07:48 AM
CatCams 3658's have just been ordered. New lifters will be ordered as soon as I get money for them.

Joe Jr.
04-24-2018, 08:53 AM
I really need to replace the heater core in the Avant, your pics are making me remember that. So tell me about the benefits of those cams you've been talking about. top end power or midrange? I'm assuming top end since everyone wants to rev to 7-8k? Just curious with your set up how much the cams add.

thedanplasse
04-24-2018, 09:16 AM
Just trying to make this engine flow better, More mid-high range power. Will probably need to replace the Holset I have to make the power I want...Unfortunately.

Will probably be looking at a 6266 .82 I get the car up, and running.

Joe Jr.
04-26-2018, 01:37 PM
what hp range are you shooting for Dan? 500 ish? Just curious at what point the 1.8 just doesn't like to be run hard on a regular basis. I have a friend that was really into building 400-500 hp ford 2.3's and it just seemed like when that motor got to around 450-500hp they didn't like to be beat on as much. He was going through motors like i do tires on a mustang.

thedanplasse
04-26-2018, 05:00 PM
500whp is my number

Joe Jr.
04-30-2018, 09:12 AM
sounds like trouble...but sounds like a lot of fun too. I'll be waiting for the 4 wheel burn videos ...

thedanplasse
04-30-2018, 06:22 PM
sounds like trouble...but sounds like a lot of fun too. I'll be waiting for the 4 wheel burn videos ...

That's the goal lol

Just scored an 034 Motorsports billet fuel rail, pressure gauge, and aeromotive adjustable FPR off a local part out.

Hoses, and fittings will all be black, and the rail will be polished.

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thedanplasse
05-05-2018, 06:38 PM
Hard to see, but I spent some time polishing the 034motorsport fuel rail. Painted the engraving santorin blue as a little touch. All new black nylon braided -06 line, and gloss black -06an fittings from the pump to the rail, and back will look (and work) great.
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xdewaynex
05-06-2018, 07:42 AM
That turned out nice!

Joe Jr.
05-07-2018, 12:00 PM
That turned out nice!

x2

thedanplasse
05-08-2018, 08:19 AM
Thanks dudes.

I think the polished will compliment all the black in the bay.

Joe Jr.
05-08-2018, 10:40 AM
agreed, i'm not a huge fan off all polished engine bays, but some polished can really make things look good.

M-Hood
05-08-2018, 12:07 PM
what hp range are you shooting for Dan? 500 ish? Just curious at what point the 1.8 just doesn't like to be run hard on a regular basis. I have a friend that was really into building 400-500 hp ford 2.3's and it just seemed like when that motor got to around 450-500hp they didn't like to be beat on as much. He was going through motors like i do tires on a mustang.

Been pushing my 2032cc stroker for the last 11 years at 570-700+awhp, motor is revved to about 8700 rpm, up to 47psi even with the 83.5mm bore. The 1.8t block is very strong.



Thedanplasse, If you plan on revving the motor beyond 8k rpm skip running a Moroso catch can. Saw it on your list but wasn't sure if you ended up installing one or not. I ran one long time ago and the second I went past 8k rpm the thing just spit oil all over the engine bay seeing it just doesn't have enough venting to control the pressure buildup inside of it. I ended up having a custom catch can made with multiple vents, haven't had a problem with it and it has been in my car for more then 11 years.

thedanplasse
05-08-2018, 12:13 PM
hmm...Havent gotten that far yet honestly. I'll take the advice gratiously, By any chance do you have any pictures of it?

I got to the point where I have the head, and the block vented with -10an fittings, but havent plumbed the catch can system yet.

I plan on revving to about that range too, Building the engine to support it (I hope) We'll see in time, I suppose.

It's all a learing experience for me with this build. It's nice to have the input from you guys about it too.

I appreciate it.

M-Hood
05-08-2018, 12:34 PM
Here is a picture of the custom catch can I have on my A4.

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AR_Motorwerkz
05-08-2018, 01:12 PM
Here is a picture of the custom catch can I have on my A4.

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That is pretty.
Do you have it draining back into the oil pan?

M-Hood
05-08-2018, 01:30 PM
That is pretty.
Do you have it draining back into the oil pan?

No since the car is used for drag racing.

Joe Jr.
05-08-2018, 03:39 PM
Been pushing my 2032cc stroker for the last 11 years at 570-700+awhp, motor is revved to about 8700 rpm, up to 47psi even with the 83.5mm bore. The 1.8t block is very strong.



Thedanplasse, If you plan on revving the motor beyond 8k rpm skip running a Moroso catch can. Saw it on your list but wasn't sure if you ended up installing one or not. I ran one long time ago and the second I went past 8k rpm the thing just spit oil all over the engine bay seeing it just doesn't have enough venting to control the pressure buildup inside of it. I ended up having a custom catch can made with multiple vents, haven't had a problem with it and it has been in my car for more then 11 years.

Do you or did you use your car as a Daily or even a weekend driver or is it strictly a Drag car? Just curious. Your tune must be spot on too, running a 2 liter that hard- 47psi..I know lots of people are and have been doing it, just amazes me.

Hope we are not hi jacking your thread Dan...

tar
05-08-2018, 04:50 PM
Do you or did you use your car as a Daily or even a weekend driver or is it strictly a Drag car? Just curious. Your tune must be spot on too, running a 2 liter that hard- 47psi..I know lots of people are and have been doing it, just amazes me.

Hope we are not hi jacking your thread Dan...

Search for mike hood. YouTube is good place to start.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Audi2ptzero

thedanplasse
05-08-2018, 05:40 PM
Hope we are not hi jacking your thread Dan...

I don't mind! Surprised all these people came to this thread, honestly.


Search for mike hood.

I didn't know he owns Ringer racing until today...doh

Joe Jr.
05-09-2018, 07:47 AM
yeah that A4 moves. MIke's good at rowing gears too.

M-Hood
05-09-2018, 03:41 PM
Do you or did you use your car as a Daily or even a weekend driver or is it strictly a Drag car? Just curious. Your tune must be spot on too, running a 2 liter that hard- 47psi..I know lots of people are and have been doing it, just amazes me.

Hope we are not hi jacking your thread Dan...


Was my daily till 2006 and then after that it has just been my fun car that I use for drag racing.

rockbeau25
05-10-2018, 07:07 PM
Dan I swear to god the way things are going with my car that if you give your uprights 10% of your time and effort you'll win our $1 bet.

thedanplasse
05-11-2018, 05:35 AM
I still have to pull everything out of the Avant so I can swap rear diffs, driveshaft, subframe, control arms, uprights, coilovers, axles. Then I still need my brake spacers for the rear, new rear strut mounts, all new rear diff carrier bushings, and whatnot (inspect rear subframe), buy front calpiers, and brakes, and rear brakes, all new lines..lol

And I still need to blast, and paint my subframe too.

I have some shit I need to do.

I will divert attention to that project still, But I'm directing most of it towards finishing my engine.

Joe Jr.
05-11-2018, 10:47 AM
I don't think i'll ask how much you'll have into your car when you're done....Sounds like a show car finish to everything...It will be nice.

thedanplasse
05-11-2018, 10:58 AM
I've lost track already. Just trying to do it right.

But I was lurking audizine for a while before I decided to build this car.

Took alot of inspiration from both Gumby, and Craexr7's build threads.

Joe Jr.
05-11-2018, 01:13 PM
sounds like you're going about it the right way. Takes lots of time and patience to get it where you want it.

thedanplasse
05-11-2018, 01:21 PM
sounds like you're going about it the right way. Takes lots of time and patience to get it where you want it.

And takes alot of motivation to, keep spending money, and the time on it, while being patient.

Trying hard not to lose motivation...Especially when everyone's favorite question is "When is that thing going to be running?"

Hard to explain it lol

Joe Jr.
05-11-2018, 02:02 PM
I can't do it...i tried 3 times...bought a car had plans for it, got going on it and when it started looking longer than a year or 2 before i was driving it, i'd sell. So i decided after i sold my last Mustang i won't have another car i cant drive from the start or that sits more than a month or 2 waiting for work to be done on it...

thedanplasse
05-11-2018, 04:42 PM
I can't do it...i tried 3 times...bought a car had plans for it, got going on it and when it started looking longer than a year or 2 before i was driving it, i'd sell. So i decided after i sold my last Mustang i won't have another car i cant drive from the start or that sits more than a month or 2 waiting for work to be done on it...Yeah. This one is rough...

It's the first car I've owned this long without driving it. (Bought it in rough shape from my girlfriend's mother with plans of dailying it but couldn't fix the problem so I decided to build it into a "racecar") Well...I got to drive it all of 200 miles before ripping it apart...I've never owned a B5 except this...My whole B5 experience is summed up in 200 miles. Lol

With my gti, I built it while I was dailying it so I never had to go without it for more than a month. It's my 7th year with the GTI and as of two years ago, I was building since I owned it.

I don't mind the effort, or money it takes, because it's a hobby, and a lifestyle I like.

With this car I'm doing something I've never done. I've been learning so many new things by building it. And meeting so many knowledgeable people.

In this scene it seems like there's alot of die hards that are happy to help...unlike other scenes.

thedanplasse
05-12-2018, 02:20 PM
Took a little inspiration from Rock with all the suspension work he's been doing, and spent a little time on the pss9's. Blasted and wire wheeled them down to bare metal.

One of the lower bushings was completely blown and ripped apart so I pressed it out...I have a lead on a replacement from Bilstein on Summit for $3 and change. Will report back if it's the correct one.

PO couldn't recall if the collars were siezed, or not (they were) so I took care of that problem as well.

I will still need to throw a coat of clear on the bare metal spots, and grease, then cover the threads.

Unfortunately the springs were in rough shape (still perfectly functional) but the paint was chipping off. I'll need to strip them down before blasting them and re painting them back to the original blue.

And then the fronts will be next.
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Joe Jr.
05-14-2018, 01:07 PM
i like that look bare metal....but not chrome...

so only 200 miles huh? Hopefully you like how it drives when you're done...lol...but really, its the reason i'm messing with a b5....they just drive nice ...I've driven a lot of cars and just really like how the b5 feels on the road...

thedanplasse
05-14-2018, 01:30 PM
LOL I sure hope so too.

I've always liked how B5's look, and I enjoyed driving it for the time I had with it.

I was dumb enough to buy shitty coilovers for it that rode like garbage, which is why I picked up those Bilstein PSS9's.

But every bushing will get replaced before I drive it again. All new control arms, tie rods, sway bar end links/bushings, new rear sway bar, subframe bushings, motor/tranny mounts, diff mount, Dif carrier bushings.

New coilovers, wheel bearings, 6sp swap, short shifter...It'll be a completely different car. Not much of the car I bought will still be there. Just the body for the most part...Barely.

Joe Jr.
05-15-2018, 09:01 AM
good plan...having the suspension like new is really the basis for a build...in my opinion. I'd really like to use the 034 rsb and the subframe brackets they make for it. I've been debating weekly to get one but the $440 for a sway bar set up is a bit pricey...

thedanplasse
05-15-2018, 12:50 PM
That is on my list...Just going to open my wallet, and close my eyes. I've heard good stories for it, so I'll go with it.

I've been using side money for most of this project. Little things here, and there I've used my paycheck for, so it doesn't seem so painful.

Joe Jr.
05-16-2018, 09:31 AM
damn, just looked up that precision turbo you're going with. Nice piece of metal that happens to push a lot of air! lol I might be living vicariously through your build now. I don't think i've seen a Santorin Avant here in Colorado...

thedanplasse
05-16-2018, 09:34 AM
73lbs/min supports, in piston cars about 735hp. which should allow me to get up to 600whp if possible...Although i'm not going that far...yet

Joe Jr.
05-17-2018, 09:29 AM
I haven't driven my car much the last month so i took it out for a drive last night and really like how my baby k03s is running with the hfc and bigger exhaust. anyways, i was thinking what kind of trouble would i be in with even 500 hp?...I can't kept my foot out of the pedal on a boosted car...Yours is going to be a monster.

thedanplasse
05-17-2018, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I'm sure when I start getting real close to it firing up, I'll get excited to really drive it.

Should be selling the gti this weekend, If it goes through I've given myself a bit of the money to spend on the B5, and that will take a huge chunk of what I need to save for.

Getting closer to the light at the end of the tunnel.

M-Hood
05-18-2018, 06:51 AM
73lbs/min supports, in piston cars about 735hp. which should allow me to get up to 600whp if possible...Although i'm not going that far...yet

If you don't plan on pushing the 6266 to its limits I would suggest going with or looking at the Gen 2 PT6062 or even the PT5862, both of those will spool quicker and are rated at 750hp and 700hp. Putting them up there with the Gen 1 PT6262 and Gen 1 PT6266. No point in going 66mm exhaust wheel unless you are going to be pushing over 700awhp, the 62mm exhaust wheels still flows really well for these cars.


Don't really even need a really high flowing turbo to make high hp. I made 650awhp on a GT3582r which is just a 67.5 lb/min turbo, but that was pushed to it's limits. My HTA3586r is rated at 75 lb/min and I have made about 740awhp with it and that still wasn't pushing it to it's limits or even on my most aggressive tune, that is still only a 62mm exhaust wheel turbo. It is possible to make 600awhp on much smaller turbos now, which means a much larger power band since the smaller turbo will spool up sooner vs a older larger turbo. There are now GT30 and even GT28 size turbos that are rated at 600hp. Gen 2 PT5558 is rated at 650hp and Garrett's new G-series G25-660 rated at 61 lb/min.

thedanplasse
05-18-2018, 07:26 AM
If you don't plan on pushing the 6266 to its limits I would suggest going with or looking at the Gen 2 PT6062 or even the PT5862, both of those will spool quicker and are rated at 750hp and 700hp. Putting them up there with the Gen 1 PT6262 and Gen 1 PT6266. No point in going 66mm exhaust wheel unless you are going to be pushing over 700awhp, the 62mm exhaust wheels still flows really well for these cars.


Don't really even need a really high flowing turbo to make high hp. I made 650awhp on a GT3582r which is just a 67.5 lb/min turbo, but that was pushed to it's limits. My HTA3586r is rated at 75 lb/min and I have made about 740awhp with it and that still wasn't pushing it to it's limits or even on my most aggressive tune, that is still only a 62mm exhaust wheel turbo. It is possible to make 600awhp on much smaller turbos now, which means a much larger power band since the smaller turbo will spool up sooner vs a older larger turbo. There are now GT30 and even GT28 size turbos that are rated at 600hp. Gen 2 PT5558 is rated at 650hp and Garrett's new G-series G25-660 rated at 61 lb/min.

Yeah, I feel you.

For what I'm doing now it's overkill, but I can almost gaurantee I'll keep upgrading, and pushing it more...If I can keep squeezing power out, I will. I want something I'm not going to outgrow.

Plus I'm building my car to live in the higher revs anyway. My 3658's just came in.

My good friend is pushing almost 600rwhp on his FD so I'll need to keep trying to get more, and more power. 500whp is the lowest number I'll be happy with, but if I can make more, I wont be upset.

Just want something I can keep growing with.

thedanplasse
05-19-2018, 03:15 PM
I will be calling the engine shop this week to check up on progress on my head.

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Joe Jr.
05-19-2018, 06:58 PM
Nice to get new stuff to put in the head

xdewaynex
05-20-2018, 02:45 AM
Nice! If you dont mind me asking, what was the price for those? Ive been debating on upgrading cams, but it seems most places dont even stock cams for the 1.8t anymore.

thedanplasse
05-20-2018, 06:48 AM
Nice! If you dont mind me asking, what was the price for those? Ive been debating on upgrading cams, but it seems most places dont even stock cams for the 1.8t anymore.I got them from pagparts. They had to special order them from catcams.

But I paid I believe $700 shipped.

xdewaynex
05-20-2018, 04:56 PM
Damn, thats not bad at all. Ill keep that in mind.

thedanplasse
05-21-2018, 11:16 AM
Updated the parts list on my original post.

Big order from Ringer Racing on the way.

Cannot thank Mike enough, He made it super easy. 10/10 would reccomend a friend to do business with him.

M-Hood
05-22-2018, 06:06 AM
I got them from pagparts. They had to special order them from catcams.

But I paid I believe $700 shipped.


Are they billet or cast? I only recommend running billet cams, way too many 1.8t owners have had the cast versions crack on them.

M-Hood
05-22-2018, 06:13 AM
Nice! If you dont mind me asking, what was the price for those? Ive been debating on upgrading cams, but it seems most places dont even stock cams for the 1.8t anymore.

Really no reason to upgrade the cams on a small turbo, the stock cams are good for about 400awhp. After that point there are a few good cams, even just upgrading the intake cam will help get more air into the motor. Cat cam offers some smaller street cams and Schrick offers a very nice 252/260 mild street cam which is what I have been running for 15 years while making anywhere between 400awhp and over 700awhp, these cams have a really good amount of power in the middle of the rpm power band.

thedanplasse
05-22-2018, 06:35 AM
Cast unfortunately. We'll see how they hold up. Everything is subject to change depending on performance anyway. They look like quality pieces but....who know what'll happen when they start spinning over 8k rpm.

thedanplasse
05-24-2018, 08:43 AM
Stern Engine, Tranny, and Diff mounts came in yesterday.

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Joe Jr.
05-24-2018, 12:58 PM
nice looking parts. Sucks how many nice looking things end up under the car....Reminds me i need to order another engine mount also.

thedanplasse
05-25-2018, 06:28 AM
In this instance it's not like it's going to go un-noticed. A constant vibrating, and rattling reminder will let me know they're there lol.

Catch can should be in shortly. Followed by my turbo, wastegate, fluidamper, and lastly manifold, downpipe, and dump tube.

M-Hood
05-25-2018, 04:17 PM
In this instance it's not like it's going to go un-noticed. A constant vibrating, and rattling reminder will let me know they're there lol.

Catch can should be in shortly. Followed by my turbo, wastegate, fluidamper, and lastly manifold, downpipe, and dump tube.

Shouldn't have any or much vibration if the internals of the motor assembly were balanced. I run solid motor mounts, solid transmissions and the driver side transmission bracket is mounted directly to the sub frame. I have zero vibration.

Now stock motor is a whole different story seeing it is not balanced at all. lol

thedanplasse
05-25-2018, 05:53 PM
Shouldn't have any or much vibration if the internals of the motor assembly were balanced. I run solid motor mounts, solid transmissions and the driver side transmission bracket is mounted directly to the sub frame. I have zero vibration.

Now stock motor is a whole different story seeing it is not balanced at all. lolYeah I had everything balanced. Running solid subframe bushings too. Up next for upgraded mounting is the diff mount. I think I'm going to go ecs for that.

Joe Jr.
06-02-2018, 09:22 PM
I've been reading about whether or not using a fluidamper is worth buying for a stock motor..

thedanplasse
06-03-2018, 10:02 AM
I've been reading about whether or not using a fluidamper is worth buying for a stock motor..

My fluidamper should be here by the end of the week.

It's not going to hurt but it's meant to maintain dampening at high rpms that a stock one wouldn't be able to.

Parts are coming in steadily now.
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Started painting the precision metallic black to match.

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Ringer racing catch can is a fine piece. Once everything is plumbed, and has the filters on, it'll look awesome.

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Scored an agn valve cover today too. Will be cleaned, blasted, sanded, and painted metallic black as well.

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Got my head back from the shop. Not much to look at now. Gotta do a little bit of polishing on the port job they did. All new valve guides, and valve job.

M-Hood
06-04-2018, 11:56 AM
I've been reading about whether or not using a fluidamper is worth buying for a stock motor..

Yes if you are running a single mass flywheel.

thedanplasse
06-05-2018, 07:40 AM
Spent a little time sanding down the port job on the head last night. Not too much polishing just 400 grit to maintain some roughness to avoid adding surface tension to flowing air. Just cleaning it up a little.

Ordered oem Hydro lifters with an arp cam bolt today. Will be ordering a cam chain, and chain tensioner, along with all gaskets, and seals this week.

Head assembly will follow shortly after paint, and all the parts come in.

Joe Jr.
06-05-2018, 08:05 AM
Dan, you should post more pics....so we can see it before you get it all closed up and running...

that's what i was thinking about the dampner. I went to single mass and my a4 and my tdi. So much better feel, not so dead...

thedanplasse
06-05-2018, 08:14 AM
Yeah I will. The runners are all dusty from sanding. I'll get them all cleaned up before I put my valves, and stuff in, so I can snag some pictures assembling the head.

Will start assembly next week If i can get the paint on before then. I'll be throwing some paint on it this weekend (hopefully).

thedanplasse
06-05-2018, 04:54 PM
Not the best pictures but Joe called me out.

Did a little sanding on the ports tonight too. Need to keep going a little more. Not there yet...but it'll get there.

All new guides. And freshly cut valve seats.

There's a little corrosion from the coolant jackets but won't mess with the gasket surface.

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Joe Jr.
06-07-2018, 01:33 PM
well shit you just teasing or what? did you post pics?

thedanplasse
06-07-2018, 04:26 PM
well shit you just teasing or what? did you post pics?They're not showing up? It's working on my computer and my phone.

Joe Jr.
06-07-2018, 10:36 PM
Now they are. That 1st pic is kinda wild. Good stuff!

thedanplasse
06-08-2018, 12:25 PM
Fluidampr came in today.
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thedanplasse
06-08-2018, 05:06 PM
6266 is out of the oven after curing the metallic black paint. Making good use of an old green house rack as my painting, and drying rack.
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thedanplasse
06-09-2018, 07:48 PM
Mocked up the timing cover, and fluidampr.

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Joe Jr.
06-11-2018, 12:31 PM
Fluidampr came in today.
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jealous

thedanplasse
06-11-2018, 05:08 PM
Started assembling the head. New guides feel amazingly smooth. IE valve seals went in nicely.

Only had enough time to put the exhaust valves in. The heavy duty springs didn't make it easy either.

The intake valves look like they'll be 10x worse because lack of any usable space... I'll figure that out tomorrow.
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Joe Jr.
06-12-2018, 09:33 AM
man they look nice when new....
yeah looks much more complex then the valve springs and keepers i messed with on our 5.0 push rod motor recently...

thedanplasse
06-12-2018, 05:01 PM
Banged out the intake valves today. In less time than the exhaust valves took yesterday. I was only able to do that because I got to use the Audi special tool for compressing the springs. Now it's time to check the cam timing on the 3658 exhaust cam, and then assembly with all the new OEM parts.
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xdewaynex
06-12-2018, 05:52 PM
You stick with stock intake valves?

thedanplasse
06-12-2018, 06:03 PM
You stick with stock intake valves?Yeah stock intake valves but IE heavy duty springs and titanium retainers, ferrea exhaust valves.

GOODBYNAAIR
06-12-2018, 08:13 PM
Yeah stock intake valves but IE heavy duty springs and titanium retainers, ferrea exhaust valves.

I too am running IE heavy duty springs and titanium retainers, but super tech exhaust valves. 0 problems, really the GT28 does not even really work them. I had plans to go bigger one day.

Joe Jr.
06-13-2018, 11:11 AM
liking the pics Dan....good to see the stuff going together. I'm really kind of interested in seeing how that spring compressor works...

thedanplasse
06-13-2018, 11:51 AM
There are two feet on the slide rails that bolt up to where the cam caps go. The threaded rod goes into a foot which compresses the spring, and retainer when you tighten it. You put the keeper in, and loosen the threaded rod which slides everything into place. Its actually pretty simple...but very effective. The slots on the side are for the different valves so it pushes them down at the right angle.

thedanplasse
06-16-2018, 07:26 PM
Forgot to take pictures but I blasted, and took the vent out of the AGN valve cover so I can press in a -10an fitting to match the block vent, and run to the ringer racing catch can. While I'm doing that I'll bore out the coil pack holes to accommodate the new style 1.8t coil packs. Once I'm done with the machining I'll sand it down smooth so I can spray it metallic gloss black.

M-Hood
06-22-2018, 08:20 AM
You stick with stock intake valves?

Stock is fine if just upgrading to triple groove exhaust valves. What you would gain by going with Supertech intake valves is that they are black nitrated treated.


Upgrading both to single groove is a good option if revving the engine higher then normal, Single groove valves cost a little more but that added cost is for the single groove keepers.
The triple groove valves do not come with keepers since you just use the OEM ones from your stock valves.

thedanplasse
07-07-2018, 02:47 PM
Dropped the whole front suspension today.

Racelands will be for sale once I get them out. $300 they have 200 miles on them at most.

Almost ready to put the S4 subframe, and uprights in with the PSS9's. Still have to buy my 17z's. But progress is progress.
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thedanplasse
07-19-2018, 04:58 PM
Final pieces of my big Ringer Racing order came in. JDL killed it on these. The quality is absolutely amazing. Cannot thank Mike enough.
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xdewaynex
07-19-2018, 06:57 PM
Manifold looks killer!

Joe Jr.
07-20-2018, 11:12 AM
yeah nice looking stuff.

thanks for talking me out of the Racelands...lol..

thedanplasse
07-20-2018, 11:19 AM
yeah nice looking stuff.

thanks for talking me out of the Racelands...lol..They're a cheap option for people who want to go low, and don't care too too much about ride quality. But I remember you saying you think it's funny watching a car bounce down the road. These are bouncy....but again...you can go low and easily do so.

Joe Jr.
07-20-2018, 01:15 PM
your car is going to be impressive with all the effort you're putting into it. i'm sure lots of the b5'ers here will be as excited as you when you get the thing buttoned up and are driving it.

thedanplasse
07-22-2018, 03:58 PM
Had to mock it up yesterday. Pumped to have some real nice parts going on it.
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Joe Jr.
07-23-2018, 09:17 AM
damn...that bov is bigger than my k03...lol...looks bitchin!

thedanplasse
07-23-2018, 09:46 AM
It's the wastegate. Tial 44mm

Joe Jr.
07-25-2018, 08:42 AM
It's the wastegate. Tial 44mm

ok and there you have it, i'm an idiot...lol shouldda known, i've never seen a bov that size...and in that location....geezus

Joe Jr.
08-06-2018, 11:22 AM
what have you been up to the last few weeks Dan? [wrench]

thedanplasse
08-06-2018, 11:34 AM
Dragging my feet, and spending time with the "wife".

I Put the lifters in, Prepping myself for the cam/chain/tensioner install (hopefully this weekend).

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Joe Jr.
08-06-2018, 12:19 PM
I'm just trying to help...[drive]

thedanplasse
08-14-2018, 08:34 AM
Put the cams in the head this weekend. Still need to double, and triple check timing (and probably fix).

The intake manifold came in this morning too. Now to clean it up, and paint it to match everything else.

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Joe Jr.
08-14-2018, 11:04 AM
clean. so you'll be driving that thing soon?

Fasterd
08-14-2018, 01:05 PM
Sexy beard, beautiful build.

I can tune you up any day darling [drive]

thedanplasse
08-14-2018, 06:01 PM
Sexy beard, beautiful build.

I can tune you up any day darling [drive]I don't know how to reply to that lol.

Very unique response. Thanks lol.

Fasterd
08-15-2018, 09:01 AM
lol, who did the plenum work?[up]

thedanplasse
08-15-2018, 09:17 AM
Apikol. I'm in the process of taking all the casting marks from the runners.

Going to smooth them out, and paint it all like my stock one.

Fasterd
08-15-2018, 09:35 AM
Meh, to each their own.

I hate being northeastern residents, E85 isnt practical [=(] Im so jealous of the numbers they get from small snails.

thedanplasse
08-15-2018, 10:24 AM
I have a local station with e85, but I'm still going 93+meth just because it's not as abundant as I'd like it to be.

Fasterd
08-15-2018, 10:38 AM
For me its more the winter drivability, and yeah what do you do when youre running low? every trip needs a planned gas station.

Your job clearly alots you as much free time as mine does.[facepalm]

thedanplasse
08-15-2018, 11:05 AM
I work on a computer all day, so I frequently check up on AZ throughout the day.

I don't daily my b5. I've only driven this car about 200 miles before ripping it apart.

Joe Jr.
08-15-2018, 01:17 PM
yeah since i've been running the e85 i don't know how i'll deal with regular 91 octane this winter. But then again the air will be cooler. I play with the idea of adding meth injection to mine also. When motoza was setting up my multi tune i thought about it for the future.

Dan, you have a sexy beard?

thedanplasse
08-15-2018, 01:28 PM
I was unaware that it was sexy, but I am aware I have a beard lol

You can see it on instagram if you have one.

@thedanplasse

thedanplasse
08-15-2018, 01:31 PM
I was unaware that it was sexy, but I am aware I have a beard lol

You can see it on instagram if you have one.

@thedanplasse

also trying to figure out where my face shows a beard other than the original post standing next to Maria.

Joe Jr.
08-15-2018, 03:15 PM
really, you want us to go looking for your sexy beard on IG? Where's Dan's beard...lmao

thedanplasse
08-15-2018, 03:46 PM
Spent a little time sanding down the rough runners on the manifold. Prepping it for paint next.

Have to touch up some spots with a Dremel later and it'll be smooth (enough) for paint.

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Joe Jr.
08-20-2018, 10:33 AM
that's actually a cool look as it is...just maybe have it cleared ...will you do that to mine? lol.

thedanplasse
08-20-2018, 10:38 AM
This is the second one I've smoothed down, and it's not very enjoyable. lol

Just buy my old one, and old valve cover. They're matching.

Seerlah
08-20-2018, 10:54 AM
Did your cams come notched? If not, what route did you take to get them properly notched?

thedanplasse
08-20-2018, 11:21 AM
They came notched (from what I can tell). Hopefully the notch I'm using for reference is the timing notch.

I talked to the guy from PagParts (I forgot his name) about it, and he assured me that the exhaust cam came timed. Since the exhaust cam has an adjustable sproket.

There's also flats on each cam that indicate TDC in between cylinders 1, and 2.

I'm also talking to walky, hoping he can help me via pictures, to make sure the idiot behind the ratchet (me) got it correct.

Seerlah
08-20-2018, 11:52 AM
Arnold is a personal friend of mine. He has a head he is CNC porting for me that I never got back to him about (gave him the head maybe 2-3 years ago, but not a big deal). Cat Cams don't come notched, and I would not be surprised if Arnold notched them for you (assumption, unless Cat Cams started nothing their cams). He is really good at what he does (one of the best in the world), and you can trust whatever parts you ordered from him.

I picked up Piper Street Cams from a forum member and he notched them for me. Not sure how he went about it, but I trust him and all he had to say is he already notched them for me (not installed). As far as I know, many aftermarket cams don't come notched, and was just curious as to how you went about it. I would not hesitate one second to trust those notches if they came direct from Arnold brand new.

I don't trust my judgement when it comes to looking at timing marks on the internet 100%. But as looking at it, it looks like 15 links. I could be wrong though, and that is why it is hard to tell by internet pics. With the line I placed on the exhaust cam, I most def could be one link off going by the pic and you have 16 links. Hard to tell on the internet.

https://s15.postimg.cc/5mw4ikd6z/timing.jpg

thedanplasse
08-20-2018, 12:03 PM
Yeah I dont know how I'd get another link in there honestly. I counted 15 as well which is why I was reaching out to walky.

You can see which notch I was referencing in that picture from the exhaust cam. But just a feeling I have, that I will be taking the intake cam out, and retiming the head.

I need to get a couple more pictures to send him. Not a big deal, Just want to make sure its right.

Seerlah
08-20-2018, 12:08 PM
Was trying to help a person in the tech section, and he has a similar issue as you. I was wrong with my assessment in assisting him (not 100%), and has me questioning my judgement on this now. What you can try is rotate the cams to have the CCT in the upper position. May make it easier to count the 16 links (or not). If the head is not attached to the short block, what I used before is one of those rubber strap oil filter tools. Put the rubber strap around the cam gear and you can rotate the assembly with head off the car.

note: when the CCT is in the upper position, count by the arrows since the notches won't be there anymore

thedanplasse
08-20-2018, 12:29 PM
Yeah, that was my next idea. It's supposed to have slack up top and mine is tight.

The cams I have actually have a spot it looks like to actuslly put a wrench on. between cylinders 3, and 4. I may try that.
I'll post a couple pictures if i have the time tonight.

Seerlah
08-20-2018, 06:51 PM
Not in relation to timing, but it looks like your cam caps are on the wrong spot. Well, cap 4 on the intake cam is on the wrong section. I would imagine others are off too. The caps are line honed and why they are numbered. Lower numbers are at the timing chain end, higher at the front of the engine. It is also suggested not to replace the caps without line honed because of this, but swapping out like 1 if damaged should not hurt anything. Since line honed, this can cause extra scoring on the journals when caps placed on wrong spots.

Also, lube the crap out of those journals and lobes (also on top of lifters). Here is how I did my current head when I swapped it out (bent valves before). Better to have more lube than less, but yours looks almost non existent. You want to prime the engine before actually turning her over (fuel pump fuse removed, cranking with 5-10 seconds on and 5-10 seconds off for starter to cool down before cranking again). During this time, you don't want dry on dry metal parts. It takes time before all journals get oil to them, and during this time the extra lube comes in handy for a safety cushion.

http://s8.postimage.org/6y6s9i9v9/DSC03908.jpg

On a side note, don't have the turbo on the car while priming the motor. Instead, have the feed line attached to it with something like a saucer under the drain port. This will prevent the compressor wheel to spin too much before proper oil from the engine is applied. As you are priming the engine, you can prime the turbo during the same time (this is how I prime the turbo). As you are cranking the motor, periodically go to the engine bay to see if oil came out the drain port on the turbo chra. Once oil starts coming out the chra drain port, few more cranks for good measure to make sure you have ample oil on the journals in the block. And now you know that you are also getting proper oil to the turbo. Attach turbo to the car fully (all you need to do is really have the turbo off the turbine inlet flange, to prevent the compressor wheel from spinning during priming) and start the car up.

thedanplasse
08-21-2018, 05:23 AM
It's strange why they'd be misplaced. I took them off, and put them down in the same order I took them off. I used plenty of assembly lube, it's a clearish green lucas product.

It looks like I'll be re-timing the intake cam anyway, so I'll make sure everything is in the right place.

Seerlah
08-21-2018, 07:29 AM
Took a pic from the Bentley manual. And don't feel bad at all. You are tackling what many won't even attempt. I learned the same way, preferring to learn from my own mistakes. Expensive lessons when incorrect on something, but worth it in the long run (giving credibility to yourself and knowing you built it).

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thedanplasse
08-21-2018, 07:36 AM
Mitch, can you text me? I'll pm you my number.

Seerlah
08-21-2018, 07:42 AM
No problem. Just got a new phone (phoneless the last week), so you will be popping my phone's cherry [:/]

Seerlah
08-21-2018, 07:52 AM
Trying to text you for the last couple minutes, but new phone is not sending them. Need to figure why (maybe deleted app needed to function properly with it?!?!).

thedanplasse
08-21-2018, 09:18 AM
Awesome, I'll check the caps tonight, And change them around where needed this weekend. Add a little more assembly lube for good measure. Triple check, and hopefully bolt this head up soon.

thedanplasse
08-21-2018, 04:00 PM
After further review, and help from a couple of awesome guys on here, I've determined that timing is spot on, but I'm not perfect (contrary to popular belief) and I've mixed up some cam caps. I'll be putting them back in the correct orientation, and torquing them to spec this weekend. Looks like I'll be making the head to the block soon.

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Joe Jr.
08-22-2018, 11:43 AM
geezus Dan, quit messing with the cams...they are supposed to be lopsided...

nice pics and information. cool to see you working it out.

thedanplasse
08-22-2018, 03:28 PM
geezus Dan, quit messing with the cams...they are supposed to be lopsided...

nice pics and information. cool to see you working it out.Just swapped the caps around and torqued everything down 7ft/lbs (10nm) now to get it all masked off and painted.

Joe Jr.
08-23-2018, 08:07 AM
cool stuff. don't know that i'll ever do that. I can appreciate all the effort.

thedanplasse
09-09-2018, 04:31 PM
Got the head painted up, and mated with the block. Still a lot to do.

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Joe Jr.
09-09-2018, 04:37 PM
Cool. I'm jealous of what it will do when you're done.

rockbeau25
09-17-2018, 02:29 PM
Haven't popped in here (or really anywhere) in a while, head looks tits Dan! Must be getting anxious

thedanplasse
09-17-2018, 03:12 PM
Haven't popped in here (or really anywhere) in a while, head looks tits Dan! Must be getting anxious

Thanks, Rock. Yeah starting to see a finished product helps keep motivation above quitting level lol.

Hit a road block. Need the head tool that arp offers. I thought my triple square set would work, but they're too shallow to reach them... So I couldn't torque them down. Progress has slowed, I ran out of paint after the first

coat on the intake manifold. But I snagged this picture. Hopefully I can get everything finished this weekend (head torqued and manifold painted) so I can get another teaser picture of both manifolds, and turbo on. Still

need to work with my uncle on my AGN valve cover. Pressed the old hose clamp style nipple off so I can run my -10 an fittings. Nobody makes them long enough to clear the back of the head....so since I have a machine

shop at my disposal we're making a long -10an fitting. *shrug*

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Seerlah
09-17-2018, 05:32 PM
My ebay poly drive worked on my 06a arp head bolts. Not so sure you need the ARP one in particular, but since you already ordered.

Really liking the IM gloss finish. I am painting things, and my painting skills suck. Wrinkle coating a valve cover and rebuilding/repainting ST40s.

thedanplasse
09-18-2018, 04:32 AM
I started out with the wrinkle black for the ease, and durability. But changed my mind to the metallic black. Hoping once the AGN valve cover, and Apikol manifold match it'll tie it all together.

I have a Snap-on poly drive for the OEM head bolts, but I never thought to try it on the ARP nuts. I dont know if the head stud kit is different than the head bolt kit, but I may try that this weekend.

I'd ideally like to have the right tool for the job though.

thedanplasse
09-22-2018, 06:00 PM
Not much of an update, and more of a mock up to help keep motivation going. Got the head torqued down today, and got the intake manifold painted, and cleared.

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thedanplasse
09-26-2018, 09:30 AM
Wasn't too happy with the paint on the manifold so I broke out the polisher, and polish. Got it to an acceptable finish for me.
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Joe Jr.
09-26-2018, 10:38 AM
yeah, looks good. i might have get one, and leave it silver.....lol

get that thing running!

b6Hate4
10-17-2018, 02:41 PM
God damn that turbo looks mean as hell.

thedanplasse
10-17-2018, 05:25 PM
Thanks! When I'm done with this in 8 years it'll be interesting to see what it can do lol.

b6Hate4
10-18-2018, 04:12 AM
Thanks! When I'm done with this in 8 years it'll be interesting to see what it can do lol.

For sure. I feel the same way about my B6 now. My parts list is just starting....but when the car is done I know I’ll love it.

What brand is that black paint you’re using on everything? Just an off the shelf hi-temp style? I need to do my intake manifold and I don’t want to go through the hassle of powdercoating again.

thedanplasse
10-18-2018, 04:44 AM
VHT Metallic Black engine enamel.

fR3ZNO
10-18-2018, 06:44 AM
I was looking at getting a spare intake manifold powder coated gunmetal grey or something, that paint would be a good alternative. What store do you get it from? Doesn't seem like any near me stock it, and it's $25/can on Amazon. lol

thedanplasse
10-18-2018, 07:28 AM
Gotta pay to play, Dave.


J/k its like $8 a can, or something at Autozone....idk I just buy all the cans they have in stock when I go.

Joe Jr.
11-14-2018, 01:07 PM
No updates??

fR3ZNO
11-15-2018, 06:25 AM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/243/362/050.jpg

thedanplasse
11-15-2018, 06:52 AM
Quick update for my two fans.


I bought a B6 thats needs work lol.

Plus the Holiday's are around the corner. It'll be after the new year before I can get back into the swing of things.

I'll be ordering new coilover parts to get the Bilsteins in working order, Only then will I be ready to get the subframe, control arms, coilovers, and uprights back in the car.

I'll be contacting Rotor lab for my 17z kit to make the car a roller once again. New seals will be put into the trans, and diff before replacing the fluid, and putting them back into the car.

Once the rolling chassis is complete I can worry about fueling, exhaust, intercooler piping, roll cage, and tuning.

V70R
11-15-2018, 07:20 AM
Edit- apparently B6 maintenance and B5 projects on the back burner is contagious...

Ask me how I know, too.

thedanplasse
11-15-2018, 09:27 AM
We fell into the same trap.

Joe Jr.
11-15-2018, 10:51 AM
looks like you have 3 fans, Dan. Thanks for the update, just making sure you didn't install that motor and didn't tell us. I know what you mean about that holidays time of year. Without fail i find stuff to buy at this time and realize i can't/shouldn't be buying crap now. Ok then, enjoy the holidays and then come January get back to it!!

thedanplasse
11-15-2018, 02:51 PM
I promise you I haven't. No where close.

Fattyalx
11-19-2018, 08:19 PM
This makes me wish my Santorin Avant was that nice

thedanplasse
11-20-2018, 09:50 AM
The car will need a full sand, and spray when it's moving, and stopping under its own power. Won't be there for a while, but I'll be looking proper once it's there.

Thank you.

Joe Jr.
11-20-2018, 01:28 PM
shoot by then you'll be converting to electric....lol...(going with the theme of my ev reading lately)

thedanplasse
11-20-2018, 01:30 PM
I am all set with that. Will always have my gassers. I'll be that old guy.

fR3ZNO
11-21-2018, 08:39 AM
OldManYellsAtCloud.jpg

thedanplasse
11-21-2018, 08:43 AM
Exacxtly.

Also...My vogtlands for the B6 should be shipping out today.

Joe Jr.
11-27-2018, 08:33 AM
did you get those vogtlands?

need to get my exhaust manifold coated and my k04 ported...the holidays get in the way of my wasting money on cars hobby...lol

thedanplasse
11-27-2018, 10:26 AM
Should be here this Friday.

Hopefully will be on the car with the rs4 sway before winter strikes.

Joe Jr.
12-09-2018, 07:38 AM
Get them on the car?

thedanplasse
12-09-2018, 03:13 PM
Get them on the car?

I just ended up picking them up yesterday. Hopefully this Friday I'll have them on the car.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181209/ec0d38bfa0d5ddd1eedcbbda0e149a84.jpg

Also put the swings on last week.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181209/6e477e01159f5fcd93eb78d6a2690165.jpg

And the rs4 sway bar will be installed the same day.

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xdewaynex
12-09-2018, 06:00 PM
The swings dont look too bad on the B6.

thedanplasse
12-10-2018, 04:42 AM
I was worried about the color looking terrible on it but...I'm honestly not mad about them. They're my only snow tires so if they did look bad, I'd still have to run them.

fR3ZNO
12-10-2018, 05:24 AM
This is the B5 section!!1!

thedanplasse
12-10-2018, 09:37 AM
I'm the captain of this thread!

fR3ZNO
12-10-2018, 11:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvA-mimf2yg

Joe Jr.
12-11-2018, 05:46 AM
Captain my Captain!

thedanplasse
01-15-2019, 01:19 PM
Found a tiny bit of motivation to get the rear on jack stands. Took the calipers, and the rest of the brake setup off. Lubed all the nuts, and bolts to the knuckles which will be taken off, blasted, and painted. They'll also get new F.A.G wheel bearings. I have new strut mounts on the way (thanks to Tyler V70R) which will be also blasted, and painted to prevent future rust from forming.

I'm currently on the fence about pulling the rear subframe to replace it with one that's less rusty, and press in solid bushings to match the front. I'll bend new brake lines, install B5 S4 calipers with Apikol adapters for B6/7 S4 rotors, and install the PSS9's.

I also pulled my S4 rear diff out from under the work bench to clean, paint, re-seal, and replace the fluid before installing with carrier (blasted, and painted) which includes new stern track density bushings, and an Apikol, or ECS (triggered) diff mount. Next is the 01E, which I plan to put JHM 1-2 shift collars in, along with a Stasis, or JHM 4:1 center diff. Then clean, new seals, and paint.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190115/946c5528f08bbf91570d94fb74dae3bd.jpg

ALSO: Raceland Ultimo coilovers with less than 200 miles on them for sale. Too soft, and bouncy for me. I paid $400 I'll let them go for $300 local pick up
None of the shocks are blown or leaking, No corrosion.

Also sourced (again, thanks to tyler V70R) new spring collars for the Bilstein's since mine were completely seized. Even with heat, and months of PB Blaster'ing I couldn't get them free. So when i cut the old ones off, I'm back in business, and can put the refinished front subframe back in. With new control arms, refinished coilovers, and the refinished front knuckles.

Blazius
01-15-2019, 01:41 PM
Found a tiny bit of motivation to get the rear on jack stands. Took the calipers, and the rest of the brake setup off. Lubed all the nuts, and bolts to the knuckles which will be taken off, blasted, and painted. They'll also get new F.A.G wheel bearings. I have new strut mounts on the way (thanks to Tyler V70R) which will be also blasted, and painted to prevent future rust from forming.

I'm currently on the fence about pulling the rear subframe to replace it with one that's less rusty, and press in solid bushings to match the front. I'll bend new brake lines, install B5 S4 calipers with Apikol adapters for B6/7 S4 rotors, and install the PSS9's.

I also pulled my S4 rear diff out from under the work bench to clean, paint, re-seal, and replace the fluid before installing with carrier (blasted, and painted) which includes new stern track density bushings, and an Apikol, or ECS (triggered) diff mount. Next is the 01E, which I plan to put JHM 1-2 shift collars in, along with a Stasis, or JHM 4:1 center diff. Then clean, new seals, and paint.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190115/946c5528f08bbf91570d94fb74dae3bd.jpg

ALSO: Raceland Ultimo coilovers with less than 200 miles on them for sale. Too soft, and bouncy for me. I paid $400 I'll let them go for $300 local pick up
None of the shocks are blown or leaking, No corrosion.

Also sourced (again, thanks to tyler V70R) new spring collars for the Bilstein's since mine were completely seized. Even with heat, and months of PB Blaster'ing I couldn't get them free. So when i cut the old ones off, I'm back in business, and can put the refinished front subframe back in. With new control arms, refinished coilovers, and the refinished front knuckles.

Santorin power ! :D

fR3ZNO
01-16-2019, 05:17 AM
Good work, Dan. Inspiring me to get off my butt and do some work on my B5, lol.

thedanplasse
01-16-2019, 06:31 AM
Thanks, Dave.

This cold weather makes it really hard to find the motivation to suit up, and wrench outside. I planned to pull the knuckles this saturday, although there's snow in the forcast, but it looks like it may be later on at night, so I may get some time in.

If I do it, I expect you to. Get the Silverbullet™ going.

Blazius
01-16-2019, 08:09 AM
Thanks, Dave.

This cold weather makes it really hard to find the motivation to suit up, and wrench outside.

something something snow fck winter

fR3ZNO
01-16-2019, 08:46 AM
Thanks, Dave.

This cold weather makes it really hard to find the motivation to suit up, and wrench outside. I planned to pull the knuckles this saturday, although there's snow in the forcast, but it looks like it may be later on at night, so I may get some time in.

If I do it, I expect you to. Get the Silverbullet™ going.

If you're working outside, then I really have no excuse, lol. Yeah, the snow is forecast to hit me Saturday afternoon. On top of that, the first event for ice racing is this weekend... stuff like that always sneak up on me. le sigh.

Looking to put some time in this week after work, but have some things on the daily to look at first.


something something snow fck winter

pfft. winter is great, just have to find stuff to do instead of complain [;)]

Blazius
01-16-2019, 08:51 AM
pfft. winter is great, just have to find stuff to do instead of complain [;)]

Do what tho [:d] I cannot work on car, cause its outside and its constantly snowing + 30cm snow on ground, - degree's , cant go anywhere cause of snow, boring looking nature etc :D

thedanplasse
01-16-2019, 09:01 AM
Once I have the knuckles/suspension off the car it's all indoor work. Blasting, painting, and pressing in new seals/bushings can all be done in the machine shop at my uncles house.

fR3ZNO
01-16-2019, 09:09 AM
Do what tho [:d] I cannot work on car, cause its outside and its constantly snowing + 30cm snow on ground, - degree's , cant go anywhere cause of snow, boring looking nature etc :D

Well if you had quattro then you could go somewhere even with all the snow [;)]

No but really, I'm not familiar with Romania, but I like to go snowboard, snowmobile, etc and when it comes to cars I'm thankful I have a garage and there's ice racing [:p]


Once I have the knuckles/suspension off the car it's all indoor work. Blasting, painting, and pressing in new seals/bushings can all be done in the machine shop at my uncles house.

Ah gotcha, I was gonna say I thought you had a garage to work in of some sort.

thedanplasse
01-16-2019, 09:36 AM
My Father's Ghia pan is in the garage, so there isn't much useable space...especially now that my S4 diff is laying in the middle of the floor in the garage now lol.

I also completely forgot about the AGN valve cover that needs work...I got some shit to do...Thanks a lot, Dave....

Blazius
01-16-2019, 10:27 AM
Well if you had quattro then you could go somewhere even with all the snow [;)]

No but really, I'm not familiar with Romania, but I like to go snowboard, snowmobile, etc and when it comes to cars I'm thankful I have a garage and there's ice racing [:p]



Well I meant there is no interesting place to go near me because they are open in summer :P Sure quattro would more fun. But I just hate winter since the 2 years in general :D Probably cause one year I skipped from dec to march in a hospital then next year I was sick :D

Quite funny weather recently tho 2 days ago it was sunny from like 10 - 3 pm , but at 5pm it was actually way colder -5.5C than the day before when it was -1C and snowed all day. It basically did not snow at all in December now its snowing everyday [:D]

But hey climate change doesnt exist [>_<]

Honestly I might just park half of the car in the garage so i can work on the engine alteast lol.

fR3ZNO
01-16-2019, 11:30 AM
My Father's Ghia pan is in the garage, so there isn't much useable space...especially now that my S4 diff is laying in the middle of the floor in the garage now lol.

I also completely forgot about the AGN valve cover that needs work...I got some shit to do...Thanks a lot, Dave....

You're welcome, Dan. [:p]


Well I meant there is no interesting place to go near me because they are open in summer :P Sure quattro would more fun. But I just hate winter since the 2 years in general :D Probably cause one year I skipped from dec to march in a hospital then next year I was sick :D

Quite funny weather recently tho 2 days ago it was sunny from like 10 - 3 pm , but at 5pm it was actually way colder -5.5C than the day before when it was -1C and snowed all day. It basically did not snow at all in December now its snowing everyday [:D]

But hey climate change doesnt exist [>_<]

Honestly I might just park half of the car in the garage so i can work on the engine alteast lol.

Why not the whole car? lol

Blazius
01-16-2019, 12:25 PM
You're welcome, Dan. [:p]



Why not the whole car? lol

Cause the garage is filled with crap, but the biggest thing is that I have lower block in there, that I really dont have any way of moving elsewhere and I dont have anywhere else to store it :D Maybe if I dissassemble it - flywheel, crank, oil pan, pistons, rods etc.

Joe Jr.
01-18-2019, 01:01 PM
yeah, Dave why aren't you racing that ice quattro yet? sheesh. Talking about the ghia pan, Dan i had a friend that had shop for a while and he paid me to tear apart a couple of old 911's for a few weeks. it was kinda fun just taking stuff apart....

thedanplasse
01-19-2019, 03:01 PM
Started the day off with pulling the knuckles, coilovers, mounts, and axles out of the B5. Mid 20's, and overcast may I add. Up next is the subframe, and diff.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190119/2e64ab1a5ad64d2d4130259252bc867f.jpg

Then cut the old seized collars off the pss9's. Got them all cleaned up, and ready for clear. Sourced some new aftermarket collars again.....(with the help of Tyler again....)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190119/cd4ffee83793d418ef48e184fcf3de6e.jpg

Once i got the collars off I blasted all the rust and contamination from the shock bodies, and threads. Then I hit them with the wire wheel for a nice brushed finish. I'll be clearing, and putting a good amount of anti-seize on the threads, so they don't get all shitty again.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190119/5d9eb4420dc48e23cfba877e0573d12c.jpg

We had a little extra time since everything was going so smoothly all day, so we started working on the AGN valve cover. We're fabricating an extended -10 press fitting to clear the back of the head.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190119/7c4433ede34458254192f516e00deb8d.jpg

$teady$upreme
01-19-2019, 03:58 PM
Where did u get the collars?

thedanplasse
01-19-2019, 04:27 PM
Where did u get the collars?Motorsport-tools.com

Joe Jr.
01-19-2019, 10:21 PM
Now im kind of liking the hover craft look. Good to see you found some time for the B5.

$teady$upreme
01-20-2019, 02:33 AM
Thank you


Motorsport-tools.com

thedanplasse
01-20-2019, 01:27 PM
Now im kind of liking the hover craft look. Good to see you found some time for the B5.Yeah. I can't wait for the car to be a roller again though. Some things I had planned (which I knew we're going to bother me in the long run) have now finally come to bother me.so I'll be ordering better control arms all around. For the time being I'll be doing new wheel bearings, and refinishing the knuckles.

Joe Jr.
01-20-2019, 09:29 PM
Just thought I'd mention I noticed that fcp has good prices on new hubs. I was thinking about replacing mine on the rear.

thedanplasse
01-21-2019, 08:53 AM
I'll be getting the wheel bearings from FCP. I got the fronts there too.

Joe Jr.
01-21-2019, 09:13 AM
the wheel bearing failure on the rear of the b5 drives me crazy. I haven't had one besides an S4 that didn't need rears replaced.

was noticing the paint on your Santorin looks pretty damn good. is the top and hood that clean also? Out here it seems like the Santorins are prone to fading. I can never find one that doesn't have clear coat peeling.

thedanplasse
01-21-2019, 09:27 AM
No clear coat peeling or fading on mine (yet) but there are many dings, and scratches so it will be getting resprayed when the time comes.

None of the wheel bearings on the car had failed, I'm replacing them when it's easy. So they're all new instead of finding out in a couple months that I'll need to take them off, and replace them after the car was completed.

fR3ZNO
01-21-2019, 10:00 AM
Gotta love those rear wheel bearings, like Joe I haven't owned a B5 that didn't need them, aside from a Passat but that doesn't count, obviously. [:p]

thedanplasse
01-21-2019, 10:10 AM
Also on the hunt for adjustable front, and rear upper control arms. Doing the lowers too, but not sure which lower rear ones. Meyle HD fronts. Haven't done much research on rears though.

fR3ZNO
01-21-2019, 10:16 AM
I'll keep an eye out for ya. Fully spherical for the front uppers?

thedanplasse
01-21-2019, 10:32 AM
Just the rears actually. I have sourced a front set.

fR3ZNO
01-21-2019, 10:44 AM
That was quick, lol.

Joe Jr.
01-21-2019, 10:48 AM
what if you just buy some billet aluminum and carve your own out? Looks like you have all the resources there, Dan.

thedanplasse
01-21-2019, 10:54 AM
That was quick, lol.

Tyler is a good person to know.


what if you just buy some billet aluminum and carve your own out? Looks like you have all the resources there, Dan.

We have the material, but that would take more money, and time than buying some secondhand lol.

Joe Jr.
01-21-2019, 11:43 AM
i was trying to help you out with the "kool" factor on your car..

thedanplasse
01-21-2019, 12:18 PM
pshhhhht. Me being in the drivers seat makes the car "kool" enough.

Joe Jr.
01-21-2019, 12:39 PM
lmfao. I'm just feel lucky to be your friend, Dan.

thedanplasse
01-21-2019, 03:48 PM
lmfao. I'm just feel lucky to be your friend, Dan.All sorts of recognition today. Feelin' good.

V70R
01-22-2019, 11:55 AM
Atta boy. Keep up the good work!

The upper CAs will be perfect for you. Have a feeling 1.5* adjustment for camber isn’t going to be enough for my Avant on H&R Ultralows, so they’ll be perfect for ya.

thedanplasse
01-22-2019, 12:30 PM
Atta boy. Keep up the good work!

The upper CAs will be perfect for you. Have a feeling 1.5* adjustment for camber isn’t going to be enough for my Avant on H&R Ultralows, so they’ll be perfect for ya.

I'll let you know when the time comes. I know it'll be soon though. I just have to paint the subframe, so I'm just waiting on good weather. Spring time.

V70R
02-25-2019, 04:16 PM
Paint it. Without a mask, just use the beard as a fume blocker

thedanplasse
02-26-2019, 06:39 AM
Just picked these 18z's off some dude here. He also had a set of SPC adjustable upper control arms I snagged.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190226/ba249676e3f7edf405a5e27d1e89881e.jpg

xdewaynex
02-26-2019, 07:23 AM
Nice dude!

fR3ZNO
02-26-2019, 07:44 AM
Good deal, man. Not to be a debbie downer, but I'd do some research on those SPC arms... I'm sure some people have good luck with them, so YMMV.

thedanplasse
02-26-2019, 08:04 AM
I won't be putting much milage on this car. So for milage, I'm not too worried. I'm sure they'll last a while.

fR3ZNO
02-26-2019, 08:11 AM
I'm not sure how low you plan on going, but I have read that there is some clearance issues for cars that are really low. I'm sure you'll be fine, just figured I'd mention it. [up]

thedanplasse
02-26-2019, 08:14 AM
Where is the clearance limited?

fR3ZNO
02-26-2019, 08:36 AM
It's mainly at strut mount where the control arms bolt in. See vid (skip to 3:20):


https://youtu.be/HXG2BcVceAg?t=200

It's not a huge issue, just shows where to grind away some of top hat.

Joe Jr.
02-26-2019, 08:44 AM
Just because it makes me feel Kool like you Dan, that company is on my way to work everyday. Guy i work with a Jeep has bought some suspension stuff from them. He seems to be happy with it so far.

thedanplasse
02-26-2019, 08:45 AM
Thats what I figured. No problem for me, Thanks for the info. I'll do that before install.

fR3ZNO
02-26-2019, 09:54 AM
Thats what I figured. No problem for me, Thanks for the info. I'll do that before install.

Yeah, I figured it wouldn't be a big deal for ya. I think there's also some cases of the ball joints binding too, but idk how much of the reported problems are due to install error or what. lol.

$teady$upreme
02-26-2019, 10:23 AM
So yes, the two ball joints might rub. i had this problem before, and the boots are torn and c-clip loose, but i still got it warrantied by spc.

They said, Caster has to be 6 or more to avoid the problem. So far mine been ok. Way easier to adjust than my 034 which i had before.

thedanplasse
03-11-2019, 04:56 AM
Working on the strut mounts now. Got a super solid drivers side from Tyler. The passengers side had been replaced not too long before I got the car. I decided I'll blast both of them and make sure I get rid of all the rust (very small amount on the passenger side) before putting them in.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190311/cde61934b405f8203441976de1b8450c.jpg

thedanplasse
03-13-2019, 11:34 AM
Got the 18z's, and control arms last night. First little clean for them before refinishing the calipers, and rebuilding the control arm ball joints. (Torn boots)

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190313/8ea419eefce3810e64915df2a9052704.jpg

Joe Jr.
03-18-2019, 11:41 AM
very cool! parts is parts.

hawaiian punch
03-28-2019, 03:33 AM
Awesome build man, this Avant is going to be serious!


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thedanplasse
03-29-2019, 05:46 AM
Awesome build man, this Avant is going to be serious!


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Whenever I finish it, Hah. Thank you. I cannot wait to actually start putting things back together. One thing I'm lacking is time. The car being over an hour away from me puts a huge damper on things.

hawaiian punch
03-29-2019, 07:42 PM
Whenever I finish it, Hah. Thank you. I cannot wait to actually start putting things back together. One thing I'm lacking is time. The car being over an hour away from me puts a huge damper on things.


Yeah I hear you man that is rough but you’ll get there before you know it!


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b6Hate4
04-13-2019, 10:20 AM
This thing done yet?


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thedanplasse
04-15-2019, 05:37 AM
Nope, But I haven't given up either. Just slow progress. Not much to post about.

b6Hate4
04-15-2019, 03:49 PM
Nope, But I haven't given up either. Just slow progress. Not much to post about.

I’m just giving you shit. Progress is progress.

thedanplasse
04-16-2019, 05:58 AM
Lol, I know.

I got the other shock mount blasted. With the good weather coming up I'll be able to start painting pieces that need to be finished, then I can start assembly.

I'll likely be blasting the 18Z's, and painting them imola. Once those are good to go I can install the front sub frame, and suspension. Once that's in I'll be one step closer to putting the engine, and tranny in.

Joe Jr.
04-16-2019, 01:42 PM
those 18z are monsters. No worries about stopping on your way down from 160mph.

thedanplasse
05-14-2019, 05:46 AM
I got around to pulling the S4 Diff out from under the work bench last weekend. Got it all cleaned off (old fluid leaks/never being cleaned). I've ordered the seals I need to fix the leaks. Which I hope will be here in time for me to get it Painted, and assembled for this weekend. When I'll be pulling the old A4 Diff out (finally). Then I can properly inspect the rear subframe to see if I need to replace it.

Joe Jr.
05-16-2019, 07:44 AM
what, your phone camera broke?? i might not even know what an s4 diff looks like....I'm imagining it right now....[:|]

fR3ZNO
05-16-2019, 08:06 AM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/YFxJ7u3FdCrdK/giphy.gif

Joe Jr.
05-16-2019, 08:34 AM
exactly!

thedanplasse
05-16-2019, 08:53 AM
Here are some pictures for you un-imaginative folk. Hah

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/4ec3eb046a06ced89c51e2c95bc137df.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/55cf55e2a16a2a3fcd109fdd1bb46f77.jpg

thedanplasse
05-16-2019, 09:04 AM
Luckily all the stuff is at work.

Rare Audizine Dan selfie sighting.

fR3ZNO
05-16-2019, 09:26 AM
well you didn't have to go and flip us off [>_<]

thedanplasse
05-16-2019, 09:28 AM
Lol, I felt personally attacked.

Joe Jr.
05-16-2019, 09:42 AM
now, how hard was that to post those pics? lmao....Now Dave and i don't have to use our imagination. Thanks Dan, you're a Champ! Oh and by the way, that pic with your finger in front of your eye is pretty goddamn funny. Middle finger pirate Dan!

thedanplasse
05-16-2019, 10:53 AM
Hopefully I can find some time today, or tomorrow so I can replace the seals, and get this painted this weekend.

Joe Jr.
06-12-2019, 09:28 AM
I think I paid like $3.50 for a new one at CAP, fits snug and looks neat.

Spent a little time last night finally working on the rear calipers I have been avoiding for the last 6 months. I couldn't get the inner snap ring back in, even after several attempts with different pliers. I ended up modifying a set of Gearwrench snap ring pliers to fit in there. Managed to get the ring in, but will have to wait until tomorrow to use the caliper piston depressors at work to get them all buttoned up.

Completely stripped the calipers down. Re-surfaced the Piston, and cylinder area. Blasted the bracket and calipers. Painted them imola yellow, and replaced all seals, and o-rings with a centric rebuild kit. Ordered new slide pins, boots and bolts as well. Should be better than the day they were built, when matched up with apikol brackets to run 300mm B6/B7 rear rotors.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/2786c422d89c03885ba1dac6fd6a72c2.jpg

Look at me, digging up your old old shit here....you might have to re coat those again....i bet the paint has turned orange now...lmao....But, inquiring minds want to know what paint you used? Your fault, now i'm thinking about doing mine....damn.

thedanplasse
06-12-2019, 09:38 AM
LOL yeah, thanks for rubbing it in. They're stored indoors at my parents so they're doing just fine....ass

I used normal old auto paint my friend mixed up for me in a can. With high temp clear. They might peel but, the paint was free. If need be, I would love to replace them with some Q7 4 pot rears.

Joe Jr.
06-12-2019, 10:35 AM
yeah i'm sure once i get the fronts done i'll have to do something with the rears...someday when i'm bored..i guess.

hawaiian punch
06-12-2019, 05:12 PM
I was considering doing yellow on my wagon but I think I’m just sticking with black. I found a set of 17z’s I’m going to scoop up this week probably. Already got b5 rear calipers with b6/b7 rotors in the back.


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Joe Jr.
06-25-2019, 09:58 AM
Dan...?? spend any time on the Avant lately? Just logging miles on the 2 wheeler?

thedanplasse
06-25-2019, 12:31 PM
I've thought about working on it, but that's about as far as I got lol.

Will be spending time on it soon. I really just need to find motivation. Every time it's nice out I try to spend time in the saddle.

That's my current situation.

Joe Jr.
06-25-2019, 01:14 PM
At least you're doing something you like. Sounds like a good summer to me.

Joe Jr.
07-16-2019, 03:28 PM
anything?

fR3ZNO
07-17-2019, 06:32 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/O38dU2kkQ9sWc/giphy.gif

xdewaynex
07-17-2019, 06:43 AM
He posted on Instagram yesterday with the car sitting on jack stands.

thedanplasse
07-17-2019, 06:44 AM
Dave knows lol.

thedanplasse
07-17-2019, 07:29 AM
BUT!

I just remembered I brought my rear diff to work a while ago to pull the axle cups out/replace seals/replace seals.

So I just pulled the cups off, and put them in the parts washer. I'll get them blasted, and painted for rust prevention. (just like everything else)

So now you guys can't say I haven't done anything...even if it's something small.

xdewaynex
07-17-2019, 07:41 AM
I feel like I need to replace all the diff seals as well. Ive been debating on pulling my engine and stripping it, just so Ill have something to do [>_>]

Joe Jr.
07-17-2019, 10:37 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/O38dU2kkQ9sWc/giphy.gif

if you could put Dan's hover craft Avant in there it would be pretty cool?

thedanplasse
08-04-2019, 03:03 PM
Dropped the diff, and the driveshaft today. Looks like I'll be getting new lower control arms, and rear subframe (they're a bit crusty). Progress is progress though.

I remembered why I stopped working on cars lol.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190804/d7005af7235ba2cd53c69038798b56a7.jpg