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vwztips
09-03-2016, 07:33 PM
I am sure this has been covered but a search did not bring it up.
I have a 2003 Allroad with a bad BEL motor. I also have a 2002 with a good APB motor. I assume I can take everything off the BEL (turbos, harness, accessories, etc) and bolt it to the APB. Is that accurate?
SteelyS6
09-03-2016, 07:56 PM
I'm curious as well, as I have a spare APB Sitting behind my toolbox that I would like to build with rods, refreshed heads and some big turbo's and drop into my 2004.
Kaane
09-03-2016, 08:20 PM
heads and block are the same, you can swap intakes turbos all accessories and it will work just fine.
Royal769sr
09-03-2016, 10:21 PM
I did the same thing. The swap is super easy and self explanatory. You will have to change like 3 or 4 things. The o2 sensor plugs and the knock sensor plug. Been awhile
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Audibot
09-04-2016, 10:39 AM
I think the downpipe mates would be different between the BEL and APB, so you'd have to keep those with the turbos. IIRC, that's one of the major differences in the two cars, outside the immo
Royal769sr
09-04-2016, 12:33 PM
I think it was confirmed there are no differences in manifolds
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Audibot
09-04-2016, 02:14 PM
I think it was confirmed there are no differences in manifolds
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I thought the turbo flange where it mates to the downpipe came off at different angles than APB.
Royal769sr
09-04-2016, 02:50 PM
That's what heard but I'm pretty sure that when I did my swap there were no differences in fact I bought a pair of piggies to use and put them next to my dp. They are the same. I have a pic if you want
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Kaane
09-04-2016, 04:06 PM
Not all BEL motors has different style turbos, a lot of them do some don't. The exhaust manifolds are the same, the turbos are different.
SteelyS6
09-04-2016, 04:25 PM
Factory 6 spd BEL turbos have the same turbo exhaust flange as APB. So 02 and knock sensor plugs, valve covers and intake manifold changes are the list of things to change from what I have read so far.
brokenwrench
09-04-2016, 04:42 PM
APB has ignition module, BEL doesn't, coils will have to swapped. APB ECU has Motronic 7.1 software, BEL has 7.1.1, ECU will have to be swapped, but I don't know if you'll have to swap the entire harness as well. As mentioned above, different turbos/dp's.
That's as much as I know.
Royal769sr
09-04-2016, 07:12 PM
It's super easy either way. Worst case you have to change the o2 sensors and dp
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