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Djpeaksd
07-18-2016, 03:47 PM
So I have a 16 S7 EPL, ECU & TCU tune. Im looking for some tips as I have not been to a dragstrip in over 10 years and that was only 1/8 mile. Really curious to see the times I can achieve.

I have launched my car probably 20 times and feel confident in doing that but thats about all. Is a dragstrip's surface a lot more slippery then the regular street? Do I need to worry about loosing traction?

Any advice would be great. Thanks.

dogears
07-18-2016, 04:24 PM
Should have left the VR box on and bypassed. That way you could A/B Conclusive proof then. Good luck on the strip!

MattACK
07-18-2016, 08:27 PM
Only thing I can really tell you is to drive AROUND the water box and go ahead and pull up to the light and stage, no need for attempting any type of burnout or launch to warm the tires. Alot of drag cars pull through the water box but that is because they have skinnies up front, but even some a-holes in street cars do... But they're only hurting themselves and everyone else. The wide tires on our cars will pick up alot of water if you don't drive around it... Then your 60' goes to shit. Aside from that, it is just like launching it on the street.

Drag strip should have better traction if track prep is good and above advice is taken.

Just keep it pointed in the right direction... Good luck!

Djpeaksd
07-18-2016, 10:17 PM
Only thing I can really tell you is to drive AROUND the water box and go ahead and pull up to the light and stage, no need for attempting any type of burnout or launch to warm the tires. Alot of drag cars pull through the water box but that is because they have skinnies up front, but even some a-holes in street cars do... But they're only hurting themselves and everyone else. The wide tires on our cars will pick up alot of water if you don't drive around it... Then your 60' goes to shit. Aside from that, it is just like launching it on the street.

Drag strip should have better traction if track prep is good and above advice is taken.

Just keep it pointed in the right direction... Good luck!

Ok cool. Yeah I was planning on going around the water box as well. Ive heard that doing burnouts in street tires is pointless and makes you have less traction. Ok wish me luck.
You think I can get into the 11's?

jsmonet
07-19-2016, 12:00 AM
burnout on streets is relatively pointless (knock off crap at best) and the attempt will probably just throw you forward and look silly.

pez81
07-19-2016, 01:39 AM
Ok cool. Yeah I was planning on going around the water box as well. Ive heard that doing burnouts in street tires is pointless and makes you have less traction. Ok wish me luck.
You think I can get into the 11's?
Yeah no problems. I've only done it once so im not the person for giving advice but so something I didn't think of was tyre pressure. I ran uneven and too high. Sciblades I think was said run suspension in comfort but the rest in dynamic

MattACK
07-19-2016, 05:06 AM
Ok cool. Yeah I was planning on going around the water box as well. Ive heard that doing burnouts in street tires is pointless and makes you have less traction. Ok wish me luck.
You think I can get into the 11's?

I don't have an S6/7... Yet, so not much help there. As long as track is in good shape and your car isn't heat soaked and DA is good... Car should run whatever it is capable of plus or minus a couple tenths of a second.

Looking forward to hearing how it went.

nickrs7
07-19-2016, 08:18 AM
So I have a 16 S7 EPL, ECU & TCU tune. Im looking for some tips as I have not been to a dragstrip in over 10 years and that was only 1/8 mile. Really curious to see the times I can achieve.

I have launched my car probably 20 times and feel confident in doing that but thats about all. Is a dragstrip's surface a lot more slippery then the regular street? Do I need to worry about loosing traction?

Any advice would be great. Thanks.

put in race gas dynamic everything track off get a good launch and you will no after your run if your tires are good

zcd2.7t
07-19-2016, 08:55 AM
Ok cool. Yeah I was planning on going around the water box as well. Ive heard that doing burnouts in street tires is pointless and makes you have less traction. Ok wish me luck.
You think I can get into the 11's?

Well, considering that I ran 12.190 bone stock, I'd certainly expect you to run in the 11s.....

Djpeaksd
07-19-2016, 08:56 AM
put in race gas dynamic everything track off get a good launch and you will no after your run if your tires are good

I did a little more reading on starting. Do you always launch on the 3rd yellow light? Cause if you wait til green your reaction time will be slow right?

HeelBuff
07-19-2016, 09:09 AM
I did a little more reading on starting. Do you always launch on the 3rd yellow light? Cause if you wait til green your reaction time will be slow right?

If you are trying to beat the guy next to you then yes. Otherwise it doesn't matter because the clock doesn't start until you launch.

Djpeaksd
07-19-2016, 09:31 AM
If you are trying to beat the guy next to you then yes. Otherwise it doesn't matter because the clock doesn't start until you launch.
Well yeah I wanna beat the guy next to me, hahaha.
Thanks guys!

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Chris@EPL
07-19-2016, 09:35 AM
See if you can monitor your IATs with your OBD tool and wait to run until the IATs have cooled off. There is not much to help high heat (without an AMS Turbo Cooler) and high DAs.

nickrs7
07-19-2016, 09:42 AM
I did a little more reading on starting. Do you always launch on the 3rd yellow light? Cause if you wait til green your reaction time will be slow right?

yes that the right way to get a good reaction time but dont worry about your reaction .. just race its about your 1/4 time not the guy next to you for now

Djpeaksd
07-19-2016, 10:29 AM
See if you can monitor your IATs with your OBD tool and wait to run until the IATs have cooled off. There is not much to help high heat (without an AMS Turbo Cooler) and high DAs.

Good advice Chris! I will for sure cause I can definitely feel a huge difference in my car when it gets heat soaked! But man in the morning after it gets the temp up it feels good!

OmaHahn
07-19-2016, 11:00 AM
I did a little more reading on starting. Do you always launch on the 3rd yellow light? Cause if you wait til green your reaction time will be slow right?

I've wondered about this also and did some research. As other have noted before you can leave on the 3rd yellow, but what causes a Red Light then? Is that if you leave before the 3rd yellow? Some race tracks have crazy trees with NO yellows - just goes from Stage to GO!

janthony6
07-19-2016, 11:14 AM
I'm planning on being there. Maybe you'll be next to me. =)

Tireguy
07-19-2016, 11:25 AM
Well yeah I wanna beat the guy next to me, hahaha.
Thanks guys!

That's probably going to be me


I'm planning on being there. Maybe you'll be next to me. =)

What time are you heading there? I'll be driving from Irvine.

Djpeaksd
07-19-2016, 11:26 AM
I'm planning on being there. Maybe you'll be next to me. =)

Ah man your tuned, you should be laying down some good times for sure! This should be a really fun Audi day. We got you, me (S7 EPL tune) Tireguy (S7 APR Tune) my buddy in an RS5 and another S7 running VR tuned.
I am gonna bring a couple of cameras and will put a video together for us!

Djpeaksd
07-19-2016, 11:35 AM
That's probably going to be me



What time are you heading there? I'll be driving from Irvine.

I think it starts at 9:00 so we are planning to be there then.
Ill shoot you a pm now with my # so you can text me and we will have each others #s

tonymission
07-19-2016, 12:33 PM
Do you know which specific light tree your track uses? I spent some time using the reaction tools online for the Pro Tree .400 and felt it made a big difference on the track. I know times are adjusted, but it feels good when everyone at the track sees and talks about you smoking everyone at the track even if it's not as much of a domination as it appears to be. ;-)

jrsAudiA6
07-19-2016, 01:08 PM
Don't expect great times at the Fontana drag strip. It is a notoriously slow track and it is going to be hot this weekend. I've been there twice and my best time on race gas was 13.01 sec @ 106mph. Other than that have fun.

Djpeaksd
07-19-2016, 01:20 PM
Don't expect great times at the Fontana drag strip. It is a notoriously slow track and it is going to be hot this weekend. I've been there twice and my best time on race gas was 13.01 sec @ 106mph. Other than that have fun.

At least racing starts at 9:00 am!

nickrs7
07-19-2016, 02:38 PM
Don't expect great times at the Fontana drag strip. It is a notoriously slow track and it is going to be hot this weekend. I've been there twice and my best time on race gas was 13.01 sec @ 106mph. Other than that have fun.

its not that bad i run a 10.4

importraceram
07-19-2016, 06:47 PM
Ah man your tuned, you should be laying down some good times for sure! This should be a really fun Audi day. We got you, me (S7 EPL tune) Tireguy (S7 APR Tune) my buddy in an RS5 and another S7 running VR tuned.
I am gonna bring a couple of cameras and will put a video together for us!

Poor guy with the RS5 is going to be seeing plenty of tail lights.

JoeGie
07-19-2016, 06:51 PM
can't wait to see the results against the apr car, are you gonna run 91?

janthony6
07-19-2016, 06:57 PM
Planning on running the 100 map with ACES.

Avned
07-19-2016, 08:50 PM
Damn, wish I could join the fun. Good luck!

yeuchau
07-19-2016, 09:55 PM
So many people from Irvine now[drool]

Djpeaksd
07-19-2016, 10:14 PM
Planning on running the 100 map with ACES.

Oh man I can't wait to see this! You do any data logging with Aces yet?

tenspeed
07-20-2016, 06:07 AM
It probably won't make any difference but has anyone made a run with the mirrors folded back?

Tireguy
07-20-2016, 09:43 PM
At least racing starts at 9:00 am!
If you plan on racing at 9, get there at 8. The tech line can get long.

Djpeaksd
07-20-2016, 09:47 PM
If you plan on racing at 9, get there at 8. The tech line can get long.
Yeah that's our plan for sure!

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Liquidsystm
07-22-2016, 07:25 AM
Is this event Saturday or Sunday? Do I need to register? I may be coming down to SoCal from SF for a friends birthday this weekend. Always curious to what I would run.

tonymission
07-22-2016, 09:39 AM
So many people from Irvine now[drool]

I lived off MacCarthur (sp?) Blvd for about 5 years... lots of red light races on that road and actually blew my first turbo right in front of John Wayne Airport in my old DSM back in the day. Black cloud is an understatement!

Djpeaksd
07-22-2016, 09:48 AM
Is this event Saturday or Sunday? Do I need to register? I may be coming down to SoCal from SF for a friends birthday this weekend. Always curious to what I would run.

So we are going on Sunday to the Streel Legal drags. Racing starts at 9:00 but gates open at 8:00 AM (we plan on getting there at 8:00). The only thing you need is a Snel helmet and just pay at the gate. They do have a test and tune on Saturday but for scheduling Sunday worked better for us.

Lets ad another S7 to the mix!!!!!!!!!

JoeGie
07-22-2016, 11:53 AM
yes, a c7 s7 with basically the same mods as me, so i know how i'll match up against jesse [:p]

mwmaroney1
07-23-2016, 03:33 PM
If you guys get a chance maybe experiment a little with suspension in dynamic vs comfort, I've read it can help times. Also maybe different tire psi. I'm running my stg 2 in a week or so and would like to know if those make a difference.

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Thisisnoise
07-23-2016, 09:50 PM
Damn wish I could have made tmmrw but pm me next time you guys are going .


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Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 01:58 PM
Damn wish I could have made tmmrw but pm me next time you guys are going .


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We will for sure! Gotta let it cool down though it was ridiculously hot today!!!

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 02:05 PM
Anyone have any guesses to what I ran today in 95 degree heat with a DA of 3799 on a 91 octane map?

davelong9050
07-24-2016, 02:06 PM
We will for sure! Gotta let it cool down though it was ridiculously hot today!!!

So.............how did it go?

davelong9050
07-24-2016, 02:08 PM
Anyone have any guesses to what I ran today in 95 degree heat with a DA of 3799 on a 91 octane map?

High 11's

AS6
07-24-2016, 02:16 PM
I'm going to go with 11.4x

Come on Dj don't keep us in suspense!

Cheers
AS6

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 02:25 PM
Nope, not even close! My fastest was 12.3 @ 111! I was hoping to be in the 11's but I didn't expect great times because of the conditions. I saw a new GTR run in the 12's

Silver lining is the APR S7 was slower then me!

importraceram
07-24-2016, 02:31 PM
Nope, not even close! My fastest was 12.3 @ 111! I was hoping to be in the 11's but I didn't expect great times because of the conditions. I saw a new GTR run in the 12's

Silver lining is the APR S7 was slower then me!

More important/relevant, what did the APR S7 that you went with run?

Edit: just saw, slower

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 02:35 PM
In his defense he couldn't get his car to launch all day. I was having a hard time getting launch control to engage as well! But my first run in Auto mode (I was trying to do too much) I forgot to go into Dynamic[headbang] I ran a 13.1 @ 110 bogging off the line. So lets say that was happening to him, his best was 13.8. So not sure what was going on with his car but it seems mine is faster. I need to call him to find out what else was going on besides not being able to launch.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/djpeak10/Mobile%20Uploads/20160724_142750_zpszw9vtoyi.jpg (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/djpeak10/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160724_142750_zpszw9vtoyi.jpg.html)

importraceram
07-24-2016, 02:38 PM
You sure he didn't run in reverse!? That seems abnormally slow even given conditions.

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 02:41 PM
You sure he didn't run in reverse!? That seems abnormally slow even given conditions.

Bahahahaha!!!!!!

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 02:44 PM
I think its probably inconclusive to be honest. But I was a full second faster then my buddies RS5 and 1.5 seconds faster then a Lexus RCF. and to see the GTR run in the 12's was shocking.

pez81
07-24-2016, 02:54 PM
I think its probably inconclusive to be honest. But I was a full second faster then my buddies RS5 and 1.5 seconds faster then a Lexus RCF. and to see the GTR run in the 12's was shocking.

So you ran on the surface of the sun.
Main thing is you ran and beat the APR car.
I'm sure you're gonna see good times once you get out of the furnace. I couldn't cope with that heat.
Interestingly I ran my stage one in hotter conditions that we are used to in the UK and couldn't get launch to work every time either I wonder if launch is heat sensitive. I did a 12 dead in comfort and no launch at 115 on 93. Then 11.85 immediately after but the trap was down an mph or two. How's the car running overall?

pez81
07-24-2016, 02:57 PM
Your friends 60ft is high isn't it did he have his tyre pressures up really high?

AS6
07-24-2016, 02:59 PM
Nope, not even close! My fastest was 12.3 @ 111! I was hoping to be in the 11's but I didn't expect great times because of the conditions. I saw a new GTR run in the 12's

Silver lining is the APR S7 was slower then me!

Dam that's disappointing! I think I could run faster it than that 😂
Oh well I'm sure you'll do better next time Dj

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 03:12 PM
So you ran on the surface of the sun.
Main thing is you ran and beat the APR car.
I'm sure you're gonna see good times once you get out of the furnace. I couldn't cope with that heat.
Interestingly I ran my stage one in hotter conditions that we are used to in the UK and couldn't get launch to work every time either I wonder if launch is heat sensitive. I did a 12 dead in comfort and no launch at 115 on 93. Then 11.85 immediately after but the trap was down an mph or two. How's the car running overall?

Yeah it was so flipping hot! It was 100 degrees when we left. I am only running a 91 octane map right now as well. Car is running great overall I think the tune is exactly what I was looking for. At the end of the day I didn't buy the car to drag race and this was a horrible time to do to the drags but we planned on it so we went.


Your friends 60ft is high isn't it did he have his tyre pressures up really high?

Maybe it was, not sure. Ill find out though.


Dam that's disappointing! I think I could run faster it than that 😂
Oh well I'm sure you'll do better next time Dj

The times yes disappointing but my buddies 2016 RS7 running 95 octane + E85 with a tune ran 11.1, so thats seems to be right (conditions wise) with me at 12.3 running 91. someone posted earlier in this thread that this track is notoriously slow as well so I don't know. We all had fun.

AS6
07-24-2016, 03:16 PM
Yeah it was so flipping hot! It was 100 degrees when we left. I am only running a 91 octane map right now as well. Car is running great overall I think the tune is exactly what I was looking for. At the end of the day I didn't buy the car to drag race and this was a horrible time to do to the drags but we planned on it so we went.



Maybe it was, not sure. Ill find out though.



The times yes disappointing but my buddies 2016 RS7 running 95 octane + E85 with a tune ran 11.1, so thats seems to be right (conditions wise) with me at 12.3 running 91. someone posted earlier in this thread that this track is notoriously slow as well so I don't know. We all had fun.

If an RS7 is only running those times then yes yours probably sounds about right.
Yeah I bet it was a fun day though.

QuaTTrings
07-24-2016, 03:27 PM
It was miserably hot for sure but a baseline for what it is. Every car was slower than expected but it was all in fun. It was cool having all of the Audis (2 S7s, Stage 3 A4 and RS5) out there though, all of your guys cars looked great and especially liked the shot I got of yours flying past me on the freeway over at an unknown speed.

I'm glad my car had 93 octane still in the tank from back East (and a gal of e85) instead of straight CA 91. I would like to go again once my car is running some sort of flashed tune and the weather is 20-30 degrees cooler though. At least when I finally do get one, then I can compare trap speeds between today's run and the flashed run(s).


Yeah it was so flipping hot! It was 100 degrees when we left.
We all had fun.

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 03:32 PM
Maybe some guys who run all the time like Sciblades or Heelbuff will chime in on the effect that the Heat and DA have on times.

pez81
07-24-2016, 03:33 PM
Yeah it was so flipping hot! It was 100 degrees when we left. I am only running a 91 octane map right now as well. Car is running great overall I think the tune is exactly what I was looking for. At the end of the day I didn't buy the car to drag race and this was a horrible time to do to the drags but we planned on it so we went.



Maybe it was, not sure. Ill find out though.



The times yes disappointing but my buddies 2016 RS7 running 95 octane + E85 with a tune ran 11.1, so thats seems to be right (conditions wise) with me at 12.3 running 91. someone posted earlier in this thread that this track is notoriously slow as well so I don't know. We all had fun.

Thanks for taking the time to share with the forum. Glad you had fun in mars.

RAF_S7
07-24-2016, 03:35 PM
Jesse have you dyno'ed yet, to see what your tune and RocE's are contributing to overall power?

zcd2.7t
07-24-2016, 03:35 PM
...My fastest was 12.3 @ 111!...

Dragtimes' DA calculator (if you believe in such things) suggests that you'd have run high 11s at 116-ish in Zero DA, which sounds about right for a stage 1 tune...

F16HTON
07-24-2016, 03:36 PM
Maybe some guys who run all the time like Sciblades or Heelbuff will chime in on the effect that the Heat and DA have on times.

I ran passes at Fontana last year in similar conditions...every pass was 11.7 or better

Unfortunately by looking at the time slips, it appears that both drivers need more experience to put down better times

davelong9050
07-24-2016, 03:46 PM
Maybe some guys who run all the time like Sciblades or Heelbuff will chime in on the effect that the Heat and DA have on times.

DA is "extremely important!"

I live in Sacramento, CA. The track here is at 30' above sea level.

The last night I ran my S7 (with APR ECU Tune) the DA was 93. My best time was 11.9@111mph.

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 03:47 PM
I ran passes at Fontana last year in similar conditions...every pass was 11.7 or better

Unfortunately by looking at the time slips, it appears that both drivers need more experience to put down better times

I said from the very beginning that I haven't drag raced in over 12 years so yeah. But my first slip with a .296 reaction time isn't that decent? I mean Im not sure what else there is to do when dragging these cars? If I launch the car properly and floor it what else can experience do for a time?

davelong9050
07-24-2016, 03:53 PM
I said from the very beginning that I haven't drag raced in over 12 years so yeah. But my first slip with a .296 reaction time isn't that decent? I mean Im not sure what else there is to do when dragging these cars? If I launch the car properly and floor it what else can experience do for a time?

These are "trap times" (light to light).

After the green light, you could sit at the start, have lunch make a few calls then launch and get the same time regardless of your reaction times.

HeelBuff
07-24-2016, 04:09 PM
Maybe some guys who run all the time like Sciblades or Heelbuff will chime in on the effect that the Heat and DA have on times.

I don't run all that often, but I definitely don't bother unless it's <1500' DA. For me, it's a spring and fall activity. I probably won't run again until APR or someone figures out how to clear my tranny's TCU so my car can AMAX again. My car needs some viagra.

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 04:12 PM
These are "trap times" (light to light).

After the green light, you could sit at the start, have lunch make a few calls then launch and get the same time regardless of your reaction times.

Yeah figured that out after the 1st race when I sat on the line for 2 seconds after the green light trying to get launch control to work[facepalm]. Im guessing that temperature is a factor with that because it seemed everyone was having a hard time today getting their car to launch.

jrsAudiA6
07-24-2016, 05:01 PM
When I dragged my A6 in similar conditions my best 1/4 mile was 13.3 @ 104mph and that was on 91 octane I believe. So based on the conditions you had today and the fact your 60ft times were pretty good your times are about what I would expect. Just my 2 cents.

What would be nice is to get a group of us and find a time when we could go to Sacramento drag strip. That place is suppose to be much better than Fontana.

SubaruSTI8
07-24-2016, 05:15 PM
In his defense he couldn't get his car to launch all day. I was having a hard time getting launch control to engage as well! But my first run in Auto mode (I was trying to do too much) I forgot to go into Dynamic[headbang] I ran a 13.1 @ 110 bogging off the line. So lets say that was happening to him, his best was 13.8. So not sure what was going on with his car but it seems mine is faster. I need to call him to find out what else was going on besides not being able to launch.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/djpeak10/Mobile%20Uploads/20160724_142750_zpszw9vtoyi.jpg (http://s110.photobucket.com/user/djpeak10/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160724_142750_zpszw9vtoyi.jpg.html)

EPL S7 ran 12.3? Was anything else done?

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 05:45 PM
EPL S7 ran 12.3? Was anything else done?

Just Roc Euro intake. But don't judge their tune on today cause I haven't dragged in 12 years and obviously the DA and Temp. Also don't judge APR on today either because that is just embarrassing. My thought was to just give everyone straight information good or bad and kind of have it like a grudge match between EPL and APR but it didn't go down like that today. Im confident with good conditions and a little more experience my car would be in the 11's.

After going back in forth with everyone here I went out to my car (it had 3 hours to cool down) and drove it cause I'm like man is something up with my car. But no it pulls great right now and is a significant upgrade over stock. Next step is to Dyno back to back runs Stock vs. tune and see what kind of power it is really putting down.

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 05:50 PM
DA is "extremely important!"

I live in Sacramento, CA. The track here is at 30' above sea level.

The last night I ran my S7 (with APR ECU Tune) the DA was 93. My best time was 11.9@111mph.

So I know nothing about DA but is 93 a good DA VS. 3799? Im guessing the lower the number the better and its what just a calculation to say hey based on conditions you are essentially running at this altitude?

**edit - ok I get it now. You were essentially running 93 feet over sea level as I was running 3,799 feet over sea level. Got it now.

SubaruSTI8
07-24-2016, 05:57 PM
Im just asking because I ran 12.0 in 93 degrees last weekend. Im waiting to run again prob sometime in October. This heat is a killer

F16HTON
07-24-2016, 05:58 PM
I said from the very beginning that I haven't drag raced in over 12 years so yeah. But my first slip with a .296 reaction time isn't that decent? I mean Im not sure what else there is to do when dragging these cars? If I launch the car properly and floor it what else can experience do for a time?

RT does not affect the time whatsoever. With the S6, if you sit on the launch control too long the car will heat soak. Also, with it being a warm day (84* when you were running) having the engine running in the staging lanes (where you probably sat for an hour) will also add heat.

Your 60ft was 1.8x which indicates that you may have lined up outside the groove, perhaps had too much wheel spin. Sometimes when there is wheel spin, the transmission will short shift the lower gears.

None of these are your fault, it just takes a little bit of experience with the car. I would bring a few bags of ice to cool off the air/water exchanger between runs.

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 06:03 PM
I would bring a few bags of ice to cool off the air/water exchanger between runs.

That's a great idea!!!!!

Lateral_G
07-24-2016, 06:26 PM
Sounds like you had fun, which is the whole point. Curious to know what the VR tuned ran. Did you get a chance to see?

Djpeaksd
07-24-2016, 07:17 PM
So here is my first run Hahahahaha! I thought you guys would get a kick out of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETPEskdQb00

MattACK
07-24-2016, 07:22 PM
Yeah with a DA and ambient temps like that you'll see disappointing numbers. Give it a few months and you should see favorable results. I personally don't go racing if it is over 80 degrees.

Js59
07-25-2016, 04:57 AM
Am I reading this right that the ARR S7 was behind by more than a second at the 60' mark? I'm sure there are some in hear that could tell you what that translates into at the end of the quarter - I'm sure it's quite a bit. It seems like regardless of which tune is better that the difference would show up later in the run - not within the first 60'. Thoughts?

sciblades
07-25-2016, 05:05 AM
Maybe some guys who run all the time like Sciblades or Heelbuff will chime in on the effect that the Heat and DA have on times.

the 4.0t is a new platform for epl, there was a car running at waterfest that was having the same issues (times) as you and was about the same temp. I like tony over at EPL so i'm not going to say anything negative i think you guys just need to feed him logs so that he can improve the warm weather performance of the tune.

as for the apr car in that slip, he didn't press the gas or had limp mode/Valet mode, there is no way a s6/s7/rs7 should ever have higher than a 1.8 60' that is rediculous a front wheel gti hooks up better that.

once again that is why i said you guys should log your cars when you go to the track the only way a company can help you with your times is by calling them and explaining the conditions and giving them logs

Fall is coming up so when it is cooler i would run your car again the temp where our cars operate best is the low to mid 50's but then it becomes harder to hook them, at least when it is warm the 60' is easy to manage.

All and all i am just glad to see more people going to the track, the only way our platform goes faster is by guys like you out there going to the track pushing companies to push the tunes.

importraceram
07-25-2016, 05:25 AM
RT does not affect the time whatsoever. With the S6, if you sit on the launch control too long the car will heat soak. Also, with it being a warm day (84* when you were running) having the engine running in the staging lanes (where you probably sat for an hour) will also add heat.

Your 60ft was 1.8x which indicates that you may have lined up outside the groove, perhaps had too much wheel spin. Sometimes when there is wheel spin, the transmission will short shift the lower gears.

None of these are your fault, it just takes a little bit of experience with the car. I would bring a few bags of ice to cool off the air/water exchanger between runs.

This is a great point that I have never thought of. Different car different platform, but I have had issues (slow times/traps) myself. What exactly would you consider too long? Once the front and rear staging yellows are lit up, I idle until the first yellow lights up at which time I bring the rpm's up, on the third yellow I left off the brake. Would you consider this "too long"?. Not to thread jack, but I think the OP can also benefit from this.

gk1
07-25-2016, 06:50 AM
This is a great point that I have never thought of. Different car different platform, but I have had issues (slow times/traps) myself. What exactly would you consider too long? Once the front and rear staging yellows are lit up, I idle until the first yellow lights up at which time I bring the rpm's up, on the third yellow I left off the brake. Would you consider this "too long"?. Not to thread jack, but I think the OP can also benefit from this.

With launch control...mash the brakes after the staging lights are lit, hold as the first yellow lights, at the second yellow floor the gas, last yellow let of the brakes and hold on. Anything much longer and the DSG shuts down launch control and your start will be terrible.

I only experienced launch shutdown once on my old S4. Needles to say it was unpleasant and a stock car running 13.5 ran 14.6 instead.

2wookies
07-25-2016, 07:48 AM
Curious where the APR rep is, they usually chime in....

Tony@EPL
07-25-2016, 07:55 AM
Great to see 2 tunes directly compared on the same day at the same track!! Nice work.

Better conditions and some touch ups on technique and this thing will be moving!

Chris@EPL
07-25-2016, 08:09 AM
Great time considering the conditions and if an tuned RS7 was running 95 and E85 was 11.1. Your 12.3 at 111 on a 91 octane map is doing great. And it doesn't hurt that you beat the other car with the same mods as you.

QuaTTrings
07-25-2016, 08:12 AM
Not tuned yet but looking at yours when it's available. You guys have the best product model as far as resale and flash at home. How is the RS7 tune coming along?


Great time considering the conditions and if an tuned RS7 was running 95 and E85 was 11.1. Your 12.3 at 111 on a 91 octane map is doing great. And it doesn't hurt that you beat the other car with the same mods as you.

Chris@EPL
07-25-2016, 08:19 AM
Not tuned yet but looking at yours when it's available. You guys have the best product model as far as resale and flash at home. How is the RS7 tune coming along?

We should have a car coming in next week.

Dguth
07-25-2016, 08:53 AM
Would like a stage 3 tune option from you all!!

Chris Morales
07-25-2016, 09:26 AM
Sounds like you'll run high 11s in good air, and that sounds about right for a 91 octane tune. I personally see a .3 increase in quarter mile times with a 3500 ft change in DA.

Djpeaksd
07-25-2016, 10:18 AM
Thanks for all the comments guys! It was a great experience for sure but I won't be running again until it gets cooler for sure. Pretty cool deal we have on this forum where we can all compare notes share experiences and then get to meet some fellow members from time to time.

Tireguy
07-27-2016, 10:50 PM
We will for sure! Gotta let it cool down though it was ridiculously hot today!!!
We definitely have to go when it cools down. In all fairness to APR, my crappy times were 100% driver error. My runs a few months ago in Fontana were much better .
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nickrs7
07-28-2016, 08:19 AM
Thanks for all the comments guys! It was a great experience for sure but I won't be running again until it gets cooler for sure. Pretty cool deal we have on this forum where we can all compare notes share experiences and then get to meet some fellow members from time to time.

told you brother only go on test and tune days Street Legal Drags day my car goes from 10.4 to 11.2

QuaTTrings
07-28-2016, 08:26 AM
told you brother only go on test and tune days Street Legal Drags day my car goes from 10.4 to 11.2

Could you explain... Confused about Fontana, why is it different?

Djpeaksd
07-28-2016, 08:57 AM
Could you explain... Confused about Fontana, why is it different?

Yeah .8 seconds is a huge difference. Im curious as well.

nickrs7
07-28-2016, 08:58 AM
Could you explain... Confused about Fontana, why is it different?

on test and tune days they prep the track diffent its much more sticky for faster cars and st drag days track is not sticky trust me i ive been to fontana 10 times in the last 6 months

nickrs7
07-28-2016, 08:59 AM
on test and tune days they prep the track diffent its much more sticky for faster cars and st drag days track is not sticky trust me i ive been to fontana 10 times in the last 6 months

the best track in are area is Auto Club Famoso Raceway
33559 Famoso Rd.
McFarland CA. 93250

wwhan
07-28-2016, 09:20 AM
the best track in are area is Auto Club Famoso Raceway
33559 Famoso Rd.
McFarland CA. 93250

Wow, that track is still open? In the 1970s it was popular, but not real fancy. I remember seeing Don Garlits there & newcomer Shirley Muldowney.

Djpeaksd
07-28-2016, 09:42 AM
the best track in are area is Auto Club Famoso Raceway
33559 Famoso Rd.
McFarland CA. 93250

Dang that is far away from me! Dont they have that roll 1/2 mile event there every year? I would love to get us all out there for that! I can't remember the events name but looks super fun.

nickrs7
07-28-2016, 09:59 AM
http://www.famosoraceway.com/ let me know next time you guys go to any event ill come with

QuaTTrings
07-28-2016, 12:48 PM
on test and tune days they prep the track diffent its much more sticky for faster cars and st drag days track is not sticky trust me i ive been to fontana 10 times in the last 6 months

Makes sense. I actually didn't have any traction issues, probably because we were racing on the surface of the sun. I think the main issue for everyone was that brutal heat. Next time definitely Qualcomm stadium for the 1/8 even though I'd prefer the full 1320 .