View Full Version : Fuel-It Bluetooht Ethanol Analyzer
AudBoost
04-07-2016, 11:32 AM
Earlier this week I had my car setup to run EPL's stage 2 E85 tune which consisted of having a CTS pulley, Continental Flex Fuel sensor, Fuel-It Bluetooth analyzer, and Autotech HPFP upgrade installed. Tony requires that his E85 tune be run on at minimum of E70. As E85 blends can differ throughout the year and from station to station it is always a good idea to test what is exactly being pumped into your gas tank. In my search for options I chose to go with a solution that I was familiar with from my previous car. I chose to go with a Bluetooth option that connects to an app on my phone versus having a gauge installed specifically to read the analyzer or buying a P3 gauge and connecting it to the analyzer.
http://www.fuel-it.biz/ethanol-analyzer-options/
Following pictures provided by andthen of his setup I chose to install the Flex Fuel sensor on the heat shield of my CTS intake. However, it was decided to move the sensor to the cold side of the heat shield. In the event there is a fuel leakage fuel could be directed away from the hot engine as much as possible. The return fuel line was then routed under the CTS intake/filter back to the OEM connection. About 8" to 10" inches of additional fuel hose was needed to complete the connection. Quick disconnect fittings were used to attach the fuel line to the Flex Fuel sensor.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/jhilsen/IMG_1103_zpszxhc9pxs.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/jhilsen/IMG_1104_zpslpt5liw7.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/jhilsen/IMG_1106_zps7v7uzlui.jpg
The wiring for the Fuel-It Bluetooth Analyzer was routed following the lines to the ECU box but it was decided to run the power line to the power terminal located in the center of the cowl. A quick disconnect fitting was also used in the case analyzer need to be temporarily disconnected.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/jhilsen/IMG_1108_zpskoektfte.jpg
The app is available for iOS and Android. There is no need to pair your phone with the Bluetooth analyzer as the app does it for you each time it is launched. Once connected to the analyzer it shows ethanol content and fuel temperature if desired.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/jhilsen/IMG_1112_zps9imc7qsj.png
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/jhilsen/IMG_1111_zps5izt4sit.png
Hofahome
04-07-2016, 11:40 AM
Sweet! I am going to be installing one very soon. Any chance you can PM me any other pics of the install?
AudBoost
04-07-2016, 11:51 AM
Sweet! I am going to be installing one very soon. Any chance you can PM me any other pics of the install?
anything in particular you would like to see?
BlownOne
04-07-2016, 02:24 PM
Nice and clean setup!
Hofahome
04-10-2016, 05:52 PM
anything in particular you would like to see?
ehh, actually I think I got it. Can you point me in the right direction for the quick disconnect fittings?
AudBoost
04-11-2016, 07:05 AM
3/8" to 3/8" fitting: http://www.autozone.com/fuel-systems/fuel-line-repair/dorman-3-8-in-steel-to-3-8-in-nylon-tubing-fuel-line-quick-connector/839131/?_requestid=932863
Hofahome
04-11-2016, 11:28 AM
3/8" to 3/8" fitting: http://www.autozone.com/fuel-systems/fuel-line-repair/dorman-3-8-in-steel-to-3-8-in-nylon-tubing-fuel-line-quick-connector/839131/?_requestid=932863
You the man
colby7
04-11-2016, 12:55 PM
Do you have a URL for the Continental flex fuel sensor you used?
AudBoost
04-11-2016, 01:12 PM
Bought mine from eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141439217568?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I searched for the sensor that Fuel-It sells on their website (Genuine GM Ethanol Sensor Part #13577394) since I was sure I was going to use the BT analyzer. I believe there is a newer version that is slightly smaller but I wanted to stay with the recommended sensor.
Hofahome
04-11-2016, 01:31 PM
Do you have a URL for the Continental flex fuel sensor you used?
I bought mine new from china for $30 total from alibaba I think. Got to my door in 3 days. I was pretty impressed.
Hofahome
04-17-2016, 12:31 PM
I installed my sensor today but still need to hook up the analyzer. To make this helpful for a DIY here are my thoughts (not to hijack post, just adding). I have never messed with fuel systems so I was nervous. Honestly though it was pretty easy. Of course try to get all install parts prior to starting. Thanks to the OP too.
1. Unplugged fuel pump fuse. (Drivers side fuse box, second column over and third one down I think. It was 25amp.) 2. Turned on car. It ran for about 20-30 sec then died.
3. Unplugged battery
4. Beer
5. Unplugged fuel line on left middle portion of engine where it joins the other hose to the HPFP. (I ended up slowly cutting it because it was on there tight and didn't want to damage the plastic it was connected to). Held rags and cup under it while I pulled it slowly apart. It dripped a few tablespoons worth of gas.
6. Remove intake and heat shield
7. This is the part that took the longest...trying to fab where the sensor would fit. Like the OP I mounted it to the heat shield on the intake side, but put mine in a diagonal position. Had to get mounting hardware for sensor at ACE.
8. Installed quick connect the op mentions above to now half-disconnected fuel line. Recommend fuel-type hose clamps.
9. Clipped in the quick connect to sensor.
8. Fyi: Originally bought some fuel line from Amazon but it was a hair too big on inner diameter. I ended up going to auto parts store with a piece of the OEM line I cut off. They matched it. I think I got like 2-3ft.
9. Put quick connect on new hose from auto parts store. This sucks. Dip the hose in extra fuel and it slipps on a little better, but you have to muscle it down. Then connect it to the sensor.
10. Install heat shield back on car
11. Install intake
12. Run the new line to the connector on the engine where you originally disconnected the fuel line. Connect with fuel line clamp. (Make sure no kinks or areas that my rub.)
13. I ended up getting some black wire conduit in the electrical section of the auto store and some random rubber bushings. Wrapped the conduit around the fuel line to protect it and put bushings around areas where I mounted (ie. Zip tied lol) the line to the heat shield. I had had issues with the intake rubbing on things before so I also tried to secure it and put bushings around other hoses for protection.
14. Put in fuse
15. Plug in battery.
16. Start car and check for leaks while smoking a cigar, admiring your work
17. (Start instructions for installing ECA device)
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160417/15b59facc63368ddc104c857cd4ea28d.jpg
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sceanzo
04-17-2016, 12:43 PM
Check for fuel leaks while smoking [up]
AudBoost
04-17-2016, 01:03 PM
@Hofahome - Glad my post was helpful and nice work. Just a heads up a few guys with B8.5's with this setup mounted the sensor rwhere the OEM fuel line disconnects right in front of the MAP sensor. The bracket there is a good spot to mount the sensor and doesn't require any additional fuel line. Below is a pic of Grumpy-S4's setup.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160208/18fb85fb5a7600ee66836a185c0a7d8d.jpg
I still am a fan of your setup because it moves the sensor away from the hot engine and is in a much better spot if there happened to be a fuel leak.
Hofahome
04-21-2016, 09:33 PM
Ya it would have been way easier (and look cleaner) but I thought your idea was safer.
Here is a proof of concept photo showing my ECA setup. Not sure if I will put it in the glovebox or in place of the ashtray, which it fits surprisingly well in.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160422/794669844d19e469ab1457fc1f3a78dd.jpg
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
AudBoost
04-22-2016, 05:16 AM
Nice work Hofahome. I vote ashtray. Easily concealable and accessible when you need it.
Quick question... when you fill up again let me know how long it takes for your ethanol content to update. Mine takes a few minutes of driving before it updates to the correct percentage.
stereojorge
04-24-2016, 05:39 AM
Very well done!
#DumpedByDoel [emoji6]
#DumpedByDoel [emoji6]
...dual pulley ASAP! [:D]
stereojorge
04-24-2016, 05:45 AM
...dual pulley ASAP! [:D]
Thinking about it eventually! Just sold my CW Pro though for more mod money ;) and I transferred over my regular JHM LW Crank Pulley, so the thought of spending money on the Overdrive right now doesn't sit well. We'll be in touch though when ready ;)
GRUMPY-S4
04-25-2016, 08:36 PM
The sensor is rated to withstand heat... Fuel leak? In any case the oem setup would leak as well... Doubt that will ever be an issue. I wanted the oem look and hence left it where I did
Hofahome
04-25-2016, 08:46 PM
The sensor is rated to withstand heat... Fuel leak? In any case the oem setup would leak as well... Doubt that will ever be an issue. I wanted the oem look and hence left it where I did
You get the e85 issue sorted yet?
GRUMPY-S4
04-25-2016, 09:00 PM
You get the e85 issue sorted yet?
Yes... First pump from auto-tech was not good. It was visibly different from the second one I got WEIRD!!!
Flashed stage 2 E85 and running good so far. Have to talk to Tony as logs indicate there is still more power left (given my upgraded cooling).
colby7
04-28-2016, 11:27 PM
I got this Bluetooth analyzer installed today. But when I run the app, it says I'm on E100, when I'm still on pump gas. Any idea what might be causing that?
AudBoost
04-29-2016, 10:43 AM
I got this Bluetooth analyzer installed today. But when I run the app, it says I'm on E100, when I'm still on pump gas. Any idea what might be causing that?
Sounds like it might be getting a bad signal from the flex fuel sensor. Where did purchase your flex fuel sensor from?
Also contact Steve @Fuel-It he might have a better idea what is going on.
colby7
04-29-2016, 01:10 PM
I purchased it from the same guy on ebay (mentioned earlier in the thread). I'll get in contact with Steve and see what he says.
Q5OnTheMove
01-23-2017, 01:00 PM
Hate to bring up a thread from the dead, but can someone zoom out the location they taped for power of the "center of the cowl". I'm buying this analyzer and want to know locations tapped under the hood for power.
Boris
01-23-2017, 09:17 PM
I love all these flex fuel s4's
Hey in the event you have a tank of shit ethanol, below e70.. What do you do, just stay out of aggressive driving? Or is it more serious?
AudBoost
01-24-2017, 05:20 AM
Hate to bring up a thread from the dead, but can someone zoom out the location they taped for power of the "center of the cowl". I'm buying this analyzer and want to know locations tapped under the hood for power.
It's right in the middle of the cowl. I used the open terminal on the top left.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c69/jhilsen/powersupply_zpsc7u9ldya.jpg
Rodizzle
01-31-2018, 10:43 PM
Can’t see the pictures ( DAMN PHOTOBUCKET ) but I’m ready to buy a fuel-it Bluetooth analyzer . Want I wanna make the following is compatible with out s4 ? And if so do I need the ethanol sensor fittings ? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/3fbb96c6447e4b08db1a44d50a3404bf.jpg
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
AudBoost
02-01-2018, 06:28 AM
Yes it is compatible. Make sure you buy the one that does Bluetooth and 0-5 volt analog signal. You won't use the analog signal wire, but its good to have for later if you want to hook it up to something like a P3 gauge.
The fittings are up to you if you want to spend the extra money. I used these from AutoZone: https://www.autozone.com/fuel-systems/fuel-line-repair/dorman-3-8-in-steel-to-3-8-in-nylon-tubing-fuel-line-quick-connector/839132_0?_requestid=601911
Also keep in mind that you will need to purchase the Fuel-It app for your phone. I think it's $4.99.
Rodizzle
02-01-2018, 09:13 AM
Thank you audboost :)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
mrb5_supra_wrx
02-01-2018, 10:11 AM
is there a budget setup similar to this?? i mean i know you can get the sensor as low as $30 but what about the other stuff does fuel it only sell the whole kit with sensor ? Or is there a way to make your own kit for cheaper?
kelseysautobody
02-01-2018, 10:37 AM
Looks like they sell just the bluetooth analyzer for $199, then a $30 sensor and you're in business. I think this is the route I'm going to go.
http://www.fuel-it.biz/bluetooth-flex-fuel-analyzer/
AudBoost
02-01-2018, 11:44 AM
is there a budget setup similar to this?? i mean i know you can get the sensor as low as $30 but what about the other stuff does fuel it only sell the whole kit with sensor ? Or is there a way to make your own kit for cheaper?
Check out this thread: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/797848-DIY-Arduino-Ethanol-Content-Analyzer
If you are technically inclined this is probably the cheapest option. Next cheapest is going to be what kelseysautobody mentioned above. There is another option that works with a P3 gauge but the P3 gauge itself is pretty expensive.
ModItNow
02-01-2018, 12:40 PM
I've had this fuel-it ethenol analyzer for about 2 years now and it works great. I think it was $150 when I purchased and I found the GM sensor on amazon for a better price. I secured mine with some parts from the hardware store to make brackets to secure the fuel line. Thats all the parts I needed to install it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/f3a05f5859368eb156bdb6766e77ce7b.jpg
Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)
mrb5_supra_wrx
02-01-2018, 02:22 PM
i forgot that straightshot makes budget kits same stuff as fuel it cheaper. Wouldnt be hard to convert it audi lines or he might even hook us up to do it for audi/vw cars too
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32356
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/747801-Str8shot-Ethanol-Content-Analyzer
Rodizzle
02-08-2018, 04:03 PM
Thanks guys for all the great info . I just ended up buying the whole thing off fuel-it . Install was super easy , I couldn’t get the OEM clamps off so I ended up cutting the hose . My HPFP should b here shortly too . E40 here I come . Thanks again
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180209/63ed6eac90f183360e5602afd6374c2e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180209/980b41577c4132c62f589ff7c43b11e8.jpg
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Johnson
02-09-2018, 11:59 AM
Where did you guys connect for power?
Where did you guys connect for power?
This
kelseysautobody
02-13-2018, 07:21 AM
This
Where did you guys connect for power?
Just got my Fuel-It installed last night. Very straight forward install. I connected the power lead to the vacant spot on the positive jump start panel and the negative to one of the nuts for the false fire wall under the cowl. Tucked the wiring under my intake, used some black plastic conduit, and routed it through the rubber boot with the wiring harness. Didn’t have to cut any fuel line, just removed the quick connectors and got some slightly larger clamps.
Edit: I also cut off the bullet connector that came on the positive lead and swapped it with a ring terminal. Did not want to use the provided scotch lock.
52038
52039
52040
whiped
02-13-2018, 07:29 AM
The only bad thing about wiring it there is that it is always on.
Maybe a perk, maybe not.
It might kill your battery if you leave it parked for like a month lol.
kelseysautobody
02-13-2018, 07:37 AM
The only bad thing about wiring it there is that it is always on.
Maybe a perk, maybe not.
It might kill your battery if you leave it parked for like a month lol.
Good point, didn't really think of that. I'm headed to Canada next week for a few days so that will be a good test while the car sits. If there is enough of a draw to kill the battery in a few days I'll just add a quick disconnect or I guess it's easy enough to undo one 10mm.
whiped
02-13-2018, 07:48 AM
Good point, didn't really think of that. I'm headed to Canada next week for a few days so that will be a good test while the car sits. If there is enough of a draw to kill the battery in a few days I'll just add a quick disconnect or I guess it's easy enough to undo one 10mm.
I'm curious if the car can kill the power there.
I have my dash cam wired to the fuse box with a power magic box but I keep it on 24/7.
If the battery gets too low the car itself will kill power to that fuse and throw a DTC for quiescence circuit.
If it also applies to those fuses then I'd imagine you will be just fine.
AudBoost
02-13-2018, 08:40 AM
I'm curious if the car can kill the power there.
I have my dash cam wired to the fuse box with a power magic box but I keep it on 24/7.
If the battery gets too low the car itself will kill power to that fuse and throw a DTC for quiescence circuit.
If it also applies to those fuses then I'd imagine you will be just fine.
My ECA has been wired this way for almost 2 years and never had a battery issue. My cars sits sometimes for 2 or 3 days in a row during the week. Bluetooth is a low energy technology so the power draw is minimal.
whiped
02-13-2018, 08:43 AM
My ECA has been wired this way for almost 2 years and never had a battery issue. My cars sits sometimes for 2 or 3 days in a row during the week. Bluetooth is a low energy technology so the power draw is minimal.
That's why I said for like a month [:)]
It was more of a heads up than anything else.
AudBoost
02-13-2018, 08:50 AM
Also, If I am not wrong the BLE device goes into a "sleep" mode when it is not transmitting data.
I just tested this. My car has been sitting since yesterday and I tried to access the BLE device from the app. The first two tries it did not connect and I was standing right next to the car. On the third try it did connect. I did not open the door or bring the key near the car. I know BLE devices can configured in different power consumption modes. There are configurations used where the device powers on after a given time interval, broadcasts, listens, then goes back to sleep. Slightly higher energy modes involve designs where reception is on, transmission is off until a connection signal is received. It just depends on how Fuel-It programmed the BLE device.
kelseysautobody
02-13-2018, 08:56 AM
I'm curious if the car can kill the power there.
I have my dash cam wired to the fuse box with a power magic box but I keep it on 24/7.
If the battery gets too low the car itself will kill power to that fuse and throw a DTC for quiescence circuit.
If it also applies to those fuses then I'd imagine you will be just fine.
Maybe but I kind of doubt it. It's all one plate so if power is going to any one of those wires everything will be hot. I had a bunch of junk in my trunk so instead of disconnecting at the battery I started pulling off the larger leads to kill power. The interior lights were still on after the 4th wire so I finally decided to take the junk out and disconnect at the battery.
Johnson
02-13-2018, 09:50 AM
That's the only thing I was worried about. That power source under the cowl being always on.
There are some fuses in the ECU box I may just tap into. I just didn't have a need to route it to the interior of the car (no p3 gage)
Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
Callandor
02-27-2018, 11:57 AM
Got my ECA installed. Putting the ECA in is no problem..takes like 20 minutes. Routing the wires back in to the car is a pain though. Didn't use the Fuel-it, but a plug and play MTX-D from Innovative Motorsports. Glad I did it, but much more time getting the signal to the glove box. Adding a switch and using a Fuel-it is not a bad idea. Especially if you only use a couple gas stations and come to trust their Ethanol.
https://i.imgur.com/RAKQbc3.jpg
Callandor
02-27-2018, 12:01 PM
Also, is everyone jsut using the Autotech HPFP? Are there any other options. I wish there was a core return or something so I could just swap out a pump with the right internals.
Johnson
09-15-2018, 11:29 AM
Anyone had issues with their analyzer?
It's showing me crazy readings like negative values for temps. I just replaced the flex fuel sensor and it worked for like a day now I have the same issue.
Dumb question but does the fuel have to flow through the sensor in a certain direction? I.e do I need to flip my sensor 180 degrees?
I have mine connected to the jumper under the cowl like kelseys.
Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
Johnson
09-17-2018, 06:22 AM
Anyone?
Sent from my iPhone using Audizine (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)
whiped
09-17-2018, 08:14 AM
I've had mine do weird shit when it didn't have a good ground. (The pin came out of the connector)
I'd double check all your wiring and if needed hook it up to a multimeter and see if you can observe the issue.
Johnson
09-17-2018, 08:40 AM
I've had mine do weird shit when it didn't have a good ground. (The pin came out of the connector)
I'd double check all your wiring and if needed hook it up to a multimeter and see if you can observe the issue.
Good point, I noticed when the car is off I get a stable reading. Maybe the vibration is affecting the connections.
kelseysautobody
09-17-2018, 10:43 AM
I've had zero issues with mine, although I don't run E as often as most people. 95% of the time I run straight 93 and the ethanol content is always E9-10 with normal temp readings. I agree with Geoff, seems like a wiring issue. I don't think the direction of the sensor makes a difference.
13_C7_SC
01-02-2019, 06:16 PM
Can’t see the pictures ( DAMN PHOTOBUCKET ) but I’m ready to buy a fuel-it Bluetooth analyzer . Want I wanna make the following is compatible with out s4 ? And if so do I need the ethanol sensor fittings ? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/3fbb96c6447e4b08db1a44d50a3404bf.jpg
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I am about to order the Fuel-It kit, but I have a couple questions:
- Does it matter which Flex Fuel Sensor I chose, if so which one?
- Do I need to add the adapter for a GM sensor?
c:\Desktop\capture.jpeg
Rodizzle
01-02-2019, 06:22 PM
I am about to order the Fuel-It kit, but I have a couple questions:
- Does it matter which Flex Fuel Sensor I chose, if so which one?
- Do I need to add the adapter for a GM sensor?
c:\Desktop\capture.jpeg
https://www.fuel-it.com/flex-fuel-sensor-with-bluetooth-analyzer/
^ that kit comes with the GM sensor , make sure to click “ Bluetooth and 0-5v output” so later in the future u could use it with a optical readout like P3 gauge .
You need the fittings too , you could go with there fittings for a high price Or go with the route I went and many others .
Dorman 800-082 Fuel Line Fitting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E323JO?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
13_C7_SC
01-02-2019, 06:40 PM
https://www.fuel-it.com/flex-fuel-sensor-with-bluetooth-analyzer/
^ that kit comes with the GM sensor , make sure to click “ Bluetooth and 0-5v output” so later in the future u could use it with a optical readout like P3 gauge .
You need the fittings too , you could go with there fittings for a high price Or go with the route I went and many others .
Dorman 800-082 Fuel Line Fitting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E323JO?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Awesome thanks!!
vpls4
01-03-2019, 09:47 AM
Cool, I'm getting this setup also.
vpls4
01-04-2019, 02:40 PM
Fuel-it said these won't work or aren't sure it'll work on later model B8.5 ('15, '16) they haven't had a test car to see if check valve is 1 or 2-way.
They are in-state so they are going to drop off one to my shop to play around with.
Anyone have this on a later model B8.5?
Johnson
01-04-2019, 03:27 PM
Fuel-it said these won't work or aren't sure it'll work on later model B8.5 ('15, '16) they haven't had a test car to see if check valve is 1 or 2-way.
They are in-state so they are going to drop off one to my shop to play around with.
Anyone have this on a later model B8.5?Can confirm the above fittings work. It's what I use on my 2014.
Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
Rodizzle
01-04-2019, 03:33 PM
Fuel-it said these won't work or aren't sure it'll work on later model B8.5 ('15, '16) they haven't had a test car to see if check valve is 1 or 2-way.
They are in-state so they are going to drop off one to my shop to play around with.
Anyone have this on a later model B8.5?
They fit man https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/090fa8ed918378547e2d5bb12b576f16.jpg
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
13_C7_SC
01-04-2019, 03:57 PM
Fuel-it said these won't work or aren't sure it'll work on later model B8.5 ('15, '16) they haven't had a test car to see if check valve is 1 or 2-way.
They are in-state so they are going to drop off one to my shop to play around with.
Anyone have this on a later model B8.5?I hope it works with the C7 platform. Cuz I just ordered it. Hope it works for you
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
I hope it works with the C7 platform. Cuz I just ordered it. Hope it works for you
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
Look forward to hearing more on this. I dont see why it wouldn't though.
bajan01
05-17-2019, 03:25 PM
Anyone running this to a digital gauge (P3, etc.)? My Bluetooth hardware seems to be sending the correct EC to the Fuel-It App (E28) but the output from the white wire is 4.82V, which on a 0-5V scale ends up showing high 90s on my P3 gauge.
Rodizzle
05-17-2019, 03:42 PM
Anyone running this to a digital gauge (P3, etc.)? My Bluetooth hardware seems to be sending the correct EC to the Fuel-It App (E28) but the output from the white wire is 4.82V, which on a 0-5V scale ends up showing high 90s on my P3 gauge.
Mines the opposite , the Bluetooth app says I’m E46 but the P3 gauge says I’m E34 . I had to splice my 0-5v wire so it could reach my gauge . So I’m thinking I might not have a good connection at the splice , producing a false reading .
Sometimes it reads right tho
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bajan01
05-17-2019, 03:45 PM
Mines the opposite , the Bluetooth app says I’m E46 but the P3 gauge says I’m E34 . I had to splice my 0-5v wire so it could reach my gauge . So I’m thinking I might not have a good connection at the splice , producing a false reading .
Sometimes it reads right tho
I ran about 5ft of wire to get it into the cabin so I could also have a bad connection I suppose...I doubt it but it is possible...I’ll redo all my connections.
Rodizzle
05-17-2019, 03:47 PM
I ran about 5ft of wire to get it into the cabin so I could also have a bad connection I suppose...I doubt it but it is possible...I’ll redo all my connections.
Check the voltage at ur splice
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Rodizzle
05-17-2019, 04:21 PM
You had me wondering .. so I just checked my voltage .
1.83V both at connector and end of splice
Bluetooth reads : E43
P3 reads : E36
Something is wrong :/
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bajan01
05-17-2019, 04:23 PM
You had me wondering .. so I just checked my voltage .
1.83V both at connector and end of splice
Bluetooth reads : E43
P3 reads : E36
Something is wrong :/
Yeah but if the scale is 0-5V then 1.83 equates to:
(1.83/5)*100 = E36.6
I’m not even close to my Bluetooth reading.
Rodizzle
05-17-2019, 05:29 PM
Thanks for the equation @Bajan01 , you should contact Fuel-it . They have great customer service .
As for me , I think ima buy a Ethanol tester tube and siphon some fuel to see exactly but E content I truly have .
I’m not sure why Fuel-It Bluetooth sensor reads differently
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bajan01
05-17-2019, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the equation @Bajan01 , you should contact Fuel-it . They have great customer service .
As for me , I think ima buy a Ethanol tester tube and siphon some fuel to see exactly but E content I truly have .
I’m not sure why Fuel-It Bluetooth sensor reads differently
I have contacted them and they forwarded my issue onto their tech support so I’m waiting to hear back from them.
I also have a test tube test kit so I’m might test for myself as well.
Rodizzle
05-17-2019, 06:48 PM
Definitely something wrong with mine lol I added more ethanol to see if my gauge would go up and it when backwards instead [emoji23]
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/d25871663ca15468d6f5d511472c9a65.jpg
I’ll trust my Bluetooth instead . I’ll contact them too
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Albertaholdings
05-18-2019, 05:26 AM
Definitely something wrong with mine lol I added more ethanol to see if my gauge would go up and it when backwards instead [emoji23]
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/d25871663ca15468d6f5d511472c9a65.jpg
I’ll trust my Bluetooth instead . I’ll contact them too
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThrough the configurations/setup menu, which is done by holding both buttons for a few seconds. Next I scrolled through the settings to get to A1, n screen. Press the left button to change it to A1, y. Next is the decimal points which I set for 2, my high number was set for 99.99 and 00.00 as the low. If you’re like me and still on pump gas for the time being the gauge will show 9.68 or close to it for the ethanol content.
Sent from my ASUS_Z012DC using Audizine mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)
bajan01
05-18-2019, 05:45 AM
Through the configurations/setup menu, which is done by holding both buttons for a few seconds. Next I scrolled through the settings to get to A1, n screen. Press the left button to change it to A1, y. Next is the decimal points which I set for 2, my high number was set for 99.99 and 00.00 as the low. If you’re like me and still on pump gas for the time being the gauge will show 9.68 or close to it for the ethanol content.
Mine is setup exactly the same way but not reading E28 like the Bluetooth analyzer is showing through the app. I have ruled out my P3 as the problem as the output voltage from the white wire is 4.82V. What output voltage are you measuring at this wire? I’m willing to bet it’s around 0.5V. [emoji41]
Rodizzle
05-18-2019, 06:47 AM
Through the configurations/setup menu, which is done by holding both buttons for a few seconds. Next I scrolled through the settings to get to A1, n screen. Press the left button to change it to A1, y. Next is the decimal points which I set for 2, my high number was set for 99.99 and 00.00 as the low. If you’re like me and still on pump gas for the time being the gauge will show 9.68 or close to it for the ethanol content.
Sent from my ASUS_Z012DC using Audizine mobile app (http://r.tapatalk.com/byo?rid=87676)
Thanks (99.99 , Lo 00.00 Hi 99.99 BL 00.00 AH 99.99 ) but it’s the actual voltage that’s coming from the fuel it sensor . There’s days it will read correctly but 99% of the time it reads off .
Just like the member above me said , my Bluetooth app reads my Ethanol content right .
I’m bet the fault is at the terminal of the Bluetooth device . Ima blow air in it and clean it with alcohol later .
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bajan01
05-20-2019, 10:21 AM
Quick update...
Fuel-It is going to send me a replacement and I will send mine back to them for testing. [emoji41]
Rodizzle
05-20-2019, 10:22 AM
Nice , I might just hit them up then .
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bajan01
05-20-2019, 10:24 AM
Nice , I might just hit them up then .
It can’t hurt. Mine was less than a week old. [emoji15]
13_C7_SC
07-31-2019, 04:35 PM
Hey guys I am selling my Fuel-It ethanol analyzer with the Dorman fittings. It is all brand new.
I didn't end up installing it because I totalled my car.
Price is $250 firm + shipping!!
PM me if interested.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/4ee06efe2987a313834d978a3fd64105.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/27e97b427bebf5bf73184aba012fc657.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/15bc49661b1caae9d387d8af8dec703a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/133bb5055c4028c96efe539adcc9faf6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/58f35f69aa22e249cd21dbe7728a0b0f.jpg
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
JBravo
08-03-2019, 06:28 PM
Hey guys I am selling my Fuel-It ethanol analyzer with the Dorman fittings. It is all brand new.
I didn't end up installing it because I totalled my car.
Price is $250 firm + shipping!!
PM me if interested.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/4ee06efe2987a313834d978a3fd64105.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/27e97b427bebf5bf73184aba012fc657.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/15bc49661b1caae9d387d8af8dec703a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/133bb5055c4028c96efe539adcc9faf6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190731/58f35f69aa22e249cd21dbe7728a0b0f.jpg
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
Crap. Of course I just see this now. [rolleyes]
I just purchased one from fuel-it and installed.
I’m currently running E-40 on IE dual pulley setup [drive]
13_C7_SC
08-04-2019, 02:43 AM
Crap. Of course I just see this now. [rolleyes]
I just purchased one from fuel-it and installed.
I’m currently running E-40 on IE dual pulley setup [drive]Isnt that the way it always happens lol....
Nice setup, love the IE dual pulley setup
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
Eddiegelr
11-07-2020, 10:03 AM
Hello, waking the dead on this thread, but I have found it helpful, and am going to make the jump to E40 on my S5. Are the fuel lines worth changing? It doesn't seem like anyone on here has. Has anyone had any issues with the stock fuel lines after prolonged use? Is there any added maintenance to do over time on the fuel system? I keep reading about how the fuel system gets gummed up from the ethanol.
Thank you!
Javier.san1993
11-09-2020, 10:08 PM
Hello, waking the dead on this thread, but I have found it helpful, and am going to make the jump to E40 on my S5. Are the fuel lines worth changing? It doesn't seem like anyone on here has. Has anyone had any issues with the stock fuel lines after prolonged use? Is there any added maintenance to do over time on the fuel system? I keep reading about how the fuel system gets gummed up from the ethanol.
Thank you!I changed fuel lines for one big reason. I wanted to reroute my fuel line so it wouldn't go over my intake. It made the engine bay look cleaner and my carbon fiber tube is unobstructed from view now.
Also, new lines are just nice to have for maintenance purposes.
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk
Eddiegelr
11-13-2020, 12:46 PM
I changed fuel lines for one big reason. I wanted to reroute my fuel line so it wouldn't go over my intake. It made the engine bay look cleaner and my carbon fiber tube is unobstructed from view now.
Also, new lines are just nice to have for maintenance purposes.
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk
Did you buy ethanol compatible fuel lines? I know ECS sells a fuel line relocation kit, but I think its easier just to buy a few feet of hose from the parts store and reroute it yourself.
Javier.san1993
01-17-2022, 08:16 PM
Did you buy ethanol compatible fuel lines? I know ECS sells a fuel line relocation kit, but I think its easier just to buy a few feet of hose from the parts store and reroute it yourself.Huge delay on response, but yes. I bought lines from Fuel-It to go alongside my analyzer.
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk