(Jsandor91's) - GTX Big Turbo Build

[jsandor91]

finally time to make my own build thread. for those of you know that don't know me, i'm Jim or Jsandor91 on here. Currently majoring in computer science at Rutgers University so on a college modding budget lol. My dream was to get a EVO X hence the picture below lol, but it was a bit unpractical and the parents didn't want it on their insurance lol.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FYMAdVnU5hA/UVZGIbqpbxI/AAAAAAAAic4/2ApQJj-VYVM/s466/IMG_20110619_222915.jpg
Since then I've been the proud owner of a Quartz Grey B7 Quattro 6mt for almost two years now and have slowly been building and making the car mine since then.
my credentials for my car were awd turbo and manual and the audi was a great fit for me like a tamed more classy and much slower evo.

so first a quick history with plenty of pictures.


Spring 2011
Brought it home super stock and 4x4 status.
and fulfilled rule #22 before it was even asked lol.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kkh_vvUPSF4/UVHhr4A7ToI/AAAAAAAAiYQ/-n6DKXGvsLE/s679/.facebook_-1775140973.jpg
only picture of me the day i got it lol. cheesin pretty hard.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t8MlAochHzY/UVZF9t3lvvI/AAAAAAAAicg/yr4tkBP94GU/s679/IMG_20110511_183306.jpg
took it off roading in search of the atco ghost. had 5 people in my car driving through all kinds of mud and water and it handled it like a champ quattro ftmfw
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dWWXAomNh8A/UVZF_HqHGnI/AAAAAAAAico/UJA9-V0RCqw/s679/IMG_20110525_014516.jpg

Summer 2011
Didn't waste any time got ebay led headlights and hid fogs 6k all around
also got chipped unitronic stage 1+

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B0qmrL6Kv0k/UVHhyRdpBSI/AAAAAAAAiYY/LIcxtq8BNnk/s720/.facebook_665654088.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G2LgyyOHNH0/T24bS_m5xXI/AAAAAAAAicY/Fhgk_Z0-y_I/s903/IMAG0028.jpg


Fall 2011
decided it was a good idea to plastidip my stock wheels
also replaced my dv with a rev d... in the dark lol

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5eaI9c44DGg/TonWvYT_LmI/AAAAAAAAicY/ENpH3eUSb0c/s509/IMAG0244.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7S8VjZLU7qE/TpDR_4-CfvI/AAAAAAAAdzA/7WnHA-3herM/s903/IMAG0251.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eLLXwc551dY/UVHh_NFDXyI/AAAAAAAAiYo/ARl9S5l-M1Y/s508/.facebook_-1417610060.jpg


had my friend install my RAI dp and tp and went unitronic stage 2 shortly after


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgW38Cqdc6M


Winter 2012
podi boost gauge

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4ChsfH-oxHo/UVHiVxlPfTI/AAAAAAAAiZA/Kc7ZbNntiNQ/s508/.facebook_-1436101744.jpg





Spring 2012
got a rockford fosgate T1 12 inch subwoofer
0 gauge amp kit
Installed lowering springs + B5 caps except had my cam follower go between installing the fronts and the rears. car looked quite silly

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AL84O5t4-vg/T6VTwuZPaeI/AAAAAAAAicY/X_fl8M7_zXM/s903/IMAG0129.jpg

towing it to audi

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZxyqcjsEmF0/T6BMU9gLtXI/AAAAAAAAicY/N_dnueMbM0w/s903/IMAG0140.jpg

got a set of bi xenons from turbopwr!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O0DCLqg1CFk/UVHiUKoLY1I/AAAAAAAAiY4/-c8PzXR8wWA/s720/.facebook_-788614267.jpg


Summer 2012

picked up a set of asa gt1's with bridgestone potenza pole positions for a steal

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bnshQNhISC8/T7mcH6MeOuI/AAAAAAAAicY/BNXkwtwCCKU/s509/IMAG0006.jpg

installed them along with 15mm spacers all around for my ideal stance
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Igs6-Gt5_i0/UVHiffuDAUI/AAAAAAAAiZQ/T-VBXQZhN9k/s508/.facebook_1647775320.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b6bHNxFzr3g/UVHijMxdX1I/AAAAAAAAiZY/iKIwd7g1u5o/s720/.facebook_-687883236.jpg

sent my headlights to Phil to blackout clear corner and install his beautiful led's in
also ordered the Maestro Tuning Suite and the Boost manager + from RAI during there sale
as well as a treadstone tr11 front mount which i ended up selling for a tr18

also picked up a longblock with the intent on building it but plans have changed so currently in the process of selling it.


Fall 2012
installed my new headlights and a rs4 grille in preparation for h20 !
also did smoked side markers, blacked out turn signals and interior led.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5I7AcKIOkAE/UVZGwLp9f-I/AAAAAAAAidI/VKxc4_0hNMM/s903/IMAG0320.jpg

got a full exhaust done from fuccello's custom exhaust in trenton NJ, went from my Rai dp/tp > 3 inch back > split 2.5's > spintech 6331 mufflers which i thank A410 for the idea!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS09IzL0Gqc

couple pictures from h20
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BiUwNTJR280/UUyUvCHUAzI/AAAAAAAAiV4/6lzqXfRzNyI/s894/DSC_0874+%281%29.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S28GzeOtlLE/UVZNnFwaphI/AAAAAAAAidY/V289c5C9UgE/s699/DSC_0832.JPG

got into a fight with bambi on halloween going 50mph

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FSUWXj8EvZI/UVZGfMV_2OI/AAAAAAAAidA/qUFS_DHdj-I/s826/IMAG0063.jpg


Winter 2013
got a set of rs4 injectors from drakes-performance (thanks shane!)
got a8 rings from thekid23
audiup red snub mount
tr18 intercooler
rockford fosgate component set t165-s
got a s4 valence from mec (thanks martin!)
IE valve cover adapter from drumnjuny (thanks arjun!)
rs4 sway bar from yungcotter (thanks theo!)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OQB6ACx7JZY/UVZG2b_LVAI/AAAAAAAAidQ/GSdNchHkyus/s826/IMAG0446.jpg


that pretty much brings me to now... enough history on to the good stuff.

[jsandor91]

Basic build plan

ATP GTX2867r upgrade from a gt28rs turbo and manifold only
Maestro, probably gonna be tuned by RAI because i haven't used my revisions yet
RS4 injectors
3inch custom exhaust
tr18 front mount with custom piping
boost manager + meth kit
drakes-performance stage 5 clutch
custom intercooler sprayer
hpfp upgrade s1 pump
hpfp upgrade prv
custom catch can setup


gonna be on a mild tune until i do at minimum rods but super excited none the less!

[Operator]

Sounding good!!

[mec]

Looking forward to the build! I would advise you to build the engine first though, once you've got te gtx on you're going to want to turn it up and it only takes once mistake to blow your engine.

[jsandor91]

Looking forward to the build! I would advise you to build the engine first though, once you've got te gtx on you're going to want to turn it up and it only takes once mistake to blow your engine.

I know ! I'm gonna keep it mild for a while 280-300 whp will keep me satisfied for a bit!

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[mec]

I know ! I'm gonna keep it mild for a while 280-300 whp will keep me satisfied for a bit!

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Except when you over boost and it destroys the engjne!

Lol jk but maybe I would always go for safety first then add the power, plus you will be able to break in your engine easier with a k03 than the gtx.

[jsandor91]

The problem is I don't know how mild or extreme of a engine build I want to do at this point so I could end up just doing rods or going balls to the walls lol.

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[mec]

The problem is I don't know how mild or extreme of a engine build I want to do at this point so I could end up just doing rods or going balls to the walls lol.

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Definitely build your head. I was on the fence about it, here's the thing wit the gtx, you start spooling at 2500, but it's very low boost, you can hit Max boost around 35-3700, you redline at 6800, that gives you 3100 rpms to play with, but once you've hit peak boost the speedometer moves to redline in the blink of an eye, you definitely want to have more room to shift and go into higher rpms! Plus it will get you to 60 faster so you can brag to all your friends ;)

[jsandor91]

ill definitely have to consider it!

in other news turbo is on its way!!

[drumnjuny]

rods + head are so important for BT. our pistons are forged and should be good, but at that point you might as well go all out since your motor is open anyway.



DEFINITELY be careful about just slapping on the turbo. problem is that the GTX's wastegate only goes down to like 14 psi which is already putting you in your power range: by that i mean if you floor it, you pretty much are guaranteed to throw a rod

[ericpaulyoung]

I can help tune your boost to keep you from boost spiking and ruining your engine. I think RAI still keeps the base map duty shape that Eurodyne supplies; it can indeed spike hard with that map and you don't want to use it. Actually not sure why Eurodyne still uses it. The map shape I use started from me learning to keep an S3 K04 from boost spiking (took me over 50 revisions) which was a task for sure, but in the end I figured out how to keep the boost nice and smooth. if anyone want the map, let me know and I will email it to you. Then just take logs and fine tune it for your setup. Or for a small fee I can help do it remotely for you.

Eric

[mec]

ill definitely have to consider it!

in other news turbo is on its way!!

Turbo should usually be the last thing you order, garrett only has a 1 yr warranty, so if you're build doesn't get finished until 7-8 months you will not have much warranty. Though garrett is usually pretty good, its just a good idea to have more margin for error.

[drumnjuny]

I can help tune your boost to keep you from boost spiking and ruining your engine. I think RAI still keeps the base map duty shape that Eurodyne supplies; it can indeed spike hard with that map and you don't want to use it. Actually not sure why Eurodyne still uses it. The map shape I use started from me learning to keep an S3 K04 from boost spiking (took me over 50 revisions) which was a task for sure, but in the end I figured out how to keep the boost nice and smooth. if anyone want the map, let me know and I will email it to you. Then just take logs and fine tune it for your setup. Or for a small fee I can help do it remotely for you.

Eric

my next project is to get a MAF and MAF housing, reinstall it, and start tuning from scratch. I would love to check out your maps as i've been messing around quite a bit and feel like i'm getting somewhere. unfortunately i haz no monies to pay you for it though (because if i did i would probably take it down the street to get dyno tuned hahaha)

[fordyoz]

would definitely recommend S3 injectors over RS4 injectors

[jsandor91]

I can help tune your boost to keep you from boost spiking and ruining your engine. I think RAI still keeps the base map duty shape that Eurodyne supplies; it can indeed spike hard with that map and you don't want to use it. Actually not sure why Eurodyne still uses it. The map shape I use started from me learning to keep an S3 K04 from boost spiking (took me over 50 revisions) which was a task for sure, but in the end I figured out how to keep the boost nice and smooth. if anyone want the map, let me know and I will email it to you. Then just take logs and fine tune it for your setup. Or for a small fee I can help do it remotely for you.

Eric

Your the man Eric! will definitely be in contact with you when it comes time for tuning. And I appreciate the input guys but I'm pretty set on putting the gtx on a getting a safe map setup .

And fordyoz I'm gonna start with rs4s since I already have em and if I have problems I'll switch

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[ericpaulyoung]

my next project is to get a MAF and MAF housing, reinstall it, and start tuning from scratch. I would love to check out your maps as i've been messing around quite a bit and feel like i'm getting somewhere. unfortunately i haz no monies to pay you for it though (because if i did i would probably take it down the street to get dyno tuned hahaha)

Check your PM

[drumnjuny]

thanks!! reply sent

[fordyoz]

Your the man Eric! will definitely be in contact with you when it comes time for tuning. And I appreciate the input guys but I'm pretty set on putting the gtx on a getting a safe map setup .

And fordyoz I'm gonna start with rs4s since I already have em and if I have problems I'll switch

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you are most likely going to have problems with Maestro + RS4 injectors on cold starts are nearly all of us have. Maestro doesnt currently let you tune out the cold start issues right now.
I havent been up in Burlington lately but If i am i will drop you a PM and let you check out the EFR and the cold start issues im talking about.

[ericpaulyoung]

ya, rs4 will always have some issues, but you can definitely make it better. If you are not shy about me checking out your file, shoot me over your maestro file and i will take a quick peak.

[AudiA4_20T]

Nice. Have fun at the Rut man, I've drank many a beer there

[jsandor91]

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[Operator]

Things are looking good!!!!

[mec]

is that the 2867 on an atp log manifold? lol embarrassing I can't recognize my own turbo. doesn't look like the wastegate bracket is the gtx, looks like a gt28, but it doesn't have double blades like a gt...

I suppose the gt wastegate could just be mounted, would make more sense because of the blades.

[jsandor91]

is that the 2867 on an atp log manifold? lol embarrassing I can't recognize my own turbo. doesn't look like the wastegate bracket is the gtx, looks like a gt28, but it doesn't have double blades like a gt...

I suppose the gt wastegate could just be mounted, would make more sense because of the blades.

I paid for gtx and it said it on the box lol I wouldn't know the difference between it and a normal 28 lol

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[mec]

There are 11 individual compressor blades on the gtx, all long. Regular gt's have dual blades

[jsandor91]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/13/na5y2y6a.jpg

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[jsandor91]

am i retarded or do i only have 10?


http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TP&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-201&Category_Code=

says 10 blade however epy has 11 on his and his is also from atp. wtf.

[mec]

Interesting....so do I
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/13/ysa4ubuh.jpg

But the 63 does appear to have 11 blades. No clue

[ericpaulyoung]

Yup, checked the Garrett site, the 2867 has 10 and the 2863 has 11


Here is mine

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/D7462C9C-ACB0-4624-9CD4-FD9C8C206B3F-284-000000120B2E3483.jpg (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/ericpaulyoung/media/D7462C9C-ACB0-4624-9CD4-FD9C8C206B3F-284-000000120B2E3483.jpg.html)

[jsandor91]

All makes sense now

Less blades = weight reduction = racecar

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[ericpaulyoung]

See if you get the 67 you can only go to 10, but if you buy the 63 you can crank it all the way up to 11!!

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w381/ericpaulyoung/11_zps32549f09.jpg (http://s1073.photobucket.com/user/ericpaulyoung/media/11_zps32549f09.jpg.html)

[jsandor91]

I like my explanation better haha

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[jsandor91]

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Parked next to a sweet tts

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New led license plate lights



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[jsandor91]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/22/e2a8eqy9.jpg

Color matched lip

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/22/qymeqegu.jpg

Prepping for a8 rings

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/22/8uzane7e.jpg

Intercooler piping from just intercoolers on eBay !

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[A-BlacK_MambA-4]

I have your aluminum strips setting in a box in my backseat. It was a crazy week last week (wedding things and my fiance decided to wreck our Ford Edge lol) I forgot to mail it today, but I will get it out tomorrow for you.

[jsandor91]

thanks again for the aluminum joel!

ordered
synchronic diverter valve kit for vw/audi
hpfpupgrade s1 pump
performance cam follower
135 bar prv

been a expensive week!


hoping to get everything installed by early june.

first is tackling a carbon clean on my car, a buddies mk6 and mk5 gti's

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[jsandor91]

i think im gonna go with this catch can

http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=290810497280

one of the fews on ebay that is baffled and actually looks decent


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[ericpaulyoung]

Save your money and vent to atmo
Eric

[jsandor91]

I would like to do that but with nj inspections I'm going to have a hard enough time passing with my test pipe . had a friend who had a filter on his cc and a tp but he failed for it being vented even at a private shop.
:thumbdown:

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[ericpaulyoung]

Hmmm. I have never had to go through SMOG checks. Do they put a sniffer on the exhaust and do a visual of the engine bay?
Eric

[jsandor91]

They do visual and there supposed to do sniffer but everyone has a guy that will look past things to a degree but vented catch cans are a no go
I can get a heat shield to cover my test pipe and most don't know where the cat is supposed to be on our cars.

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[drumnjuny]

i would still vent to atmosphere and then when the time comes plug the hole and go get inspected. are NJ emissions centers state run? In VA any garage with the tools and certification can do it... slipped my dude a 20 after he looked under the hood, back at me, under the hood again, and then back at me and said uhhhh what is this.

he didn't even do the rest of the test lol just signed me off for everything and i was on my way [up]

[ericpaulyoung]

I just sold a Jeep this last weekend to a friend in San Fransico which has stringent inspections. The PCV system on the liberty is a two part system with separate ventalation for each valve cover and a separate vent for the crank. The whole system was failing. So I cut out the OEM PCV crank valve and routed new lines. Then for the valves cover vents, I tore out the old system and routed new 5/8" radiator hose to vent to the right front wheel well. If you look under the hood it looks stock, but I am venting to atmo in stealth. :)

[jsandor91]

I have a valve cover adaptor from arjun. So if I can find a way to make it stealthy and plug it when it comes time for inspection I'd do it . otherwise I'll go catch can and vent it most of the time

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[drumnjuny]

yeah it should be easy enough to swap the a/n lines, you can definitely just get a plug for the other side, i don't think anyone will give you trouble even though it is clear you are hiding something, shouldn't matter since the system is to code during the test

[jsandor91]

you or epy will have to draw me a diagram so i dont f anything up lol.
i hate all this pcv, catch can, emissions, carbon buildup bs

[drumnjuny]

haha at first i was worried too, until i realized everything was just connected and irrelevant of flow... and i started just closing connections until i only had two; crankcase and VC breathers and threw them into opposite sides of my catch can. i can definitely find u a picture of my setup, if you want, which i think is pretty ideal and basically the same as EPY except that i retain the drainage in the catch can

that being said its definitely an unfortunate stock system. glad there are good solutions for getting rid of it, especially the line that feeds oil back into the turbo..... never understood the purpose of that one?

[mec]

there are two sides to the PCV system.

1. rear side(exhaust side) uses turbo boost as vaccuum to suck pressure out of the head and into the intake tract. This will be eliminated when you go BT, there is no where to connect those hoses that used to connect tothe k03, so if you get a different valve cover you are set, otherwise you need to plug up those two nipples on the exhaust side of the VC.

2. Front side (intake side) uses manifold vaccuum generated by teh pistons to suck in oil vapor to be combusted. If you've removed the stock PCV circle unit that bolts to the VC then you already got rid of it, so basically what you would have now is one line that goes from the valve cover down to the oil filter housing. This is strictly just an air/oil separator now, but you will want to VTA by some means, after all it's much easier to blow out seals on a BT than it is on a stock car, 30 psi on a gt30 is no joke. Some guys run a vented catch can between both lines, or some guys run the 1.8t VTA nipple, it's totally personal preference.

[drumnjuny]

FWIW you don't really need to plug the rear, you can just leave them there or screen them off or throw a filter on there it doesn't really matter.

martin what's VTA?

[jsandor91]

Vent to atmosphere I believe.
Currently soaking all this in lol

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[drumnjuny]

hahahaha whoops. good call, i was like SHIT MAYBE I NEED A VTA

[mec]

yep VTA=vent to atmosphere, aka venomous to animals

[A-BlacK_MambA-4]

I'm trying to decide what way to go with a custom exhaust and just checked out your video with the spintech mufflers. Those sound damn good man. Can't tell from the video, but did you have any tips installed?

[jsandor91]

funny story, still have no muffler tips because when i got it done i wanted to go quad tip but had no s4 valence .
now i have a s4 valence but i need to have my mufflers moved in a bit to fit so i still have no mufflers tips.

i have a video at home of my go pro mounted to the rear bumper ill try to upload it soon for you to hear.

[A-BlacK_MambA-4]

Haha no problem. They sound good. Trying to debate on a round vs oval muffler so I'm still undecided. Need to source some tips if I decide to go either route.

[jsandor91]

spintech sells tips i believe but they are so expensive.

these are probably the deepest i've heard on a fsi motor
actually gotten ask if it was a v8 a couple times by people who weren't familiar with audis
the drone is pretty noticeable especially if you go 3 inch with no resonators like me. becuz racecar [race]

[ericpaulyoung]

spintech sells tips i believe but they are so expensive.

these are probably the deepest i've heard on a fsi motor
actually gotten ask if it was a v8 a couple times by people who weren't familiar with audis
the drone is pretty noticeable especially if you go 3 inch with no resonators like me. becuz racecar [race]


1/4 branch will keep the deep throaty sound and kill the drone at no extra back pressure. DOOET

[jsandor91]

Was actually just researching my options regarding exhaust the other day

Came across these
http://m801.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/BigRed585Lbs/DSC01818.jpg.html?o=150

Same idea just smaller individual pipes on the muffler

I'm gonna wait till I get my turbo and what not before I mess with it because I'm sure the new turbo, dv , fmic and intake will make a significant difference.

Stupid question but bigger turbo more vaccum when cruising . less drone ?

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[kloeb2]

When are you getting that turbo on?!?!

[mec]

Exhaust cutout ftw ! Do it sketchy duck tape style like that guy from Florida that was on here a while ago

[A-BlacK_MambA-4]

Exhaust cutout ftw ! Do it sketchy duck tape style like that guy from Florida that was on here a while ago

Hahaha Good Ole Tricaricomob and that epic exhaust cutout.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/20/zyba6uty.jpg

[jsandor91]

When are you getting that turbo on?!?!

Summer classes + work 4 days a week put a damper on my mod time :(

Hopefully within the month


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[jsandor91]

Been quite busy the past week
Celebrated my birthday with this awesome cake my gf made me
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Got a puppy
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Got a set of st's which the gf paid for half for my birthday
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Put my treadstone intercooler on finally!
Big thanks to Joel who hooked me up with some aluminum to hang it.
Its painted black with radiator paint if anyone was wondering . love the stealth look
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just need to get this damn turbo on now.

[Operator]

Why didn't you paint the support brackets?

[jsandor91]

Why didn't you paint the support brackets?

Honestly I should have but it was such a nightmare getting the piping right I was just in a rush to get it on lol . next time I pull the bumper I'm painting them

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[jsandor91]

wow i havent updated this in a while!
turbo should finally be going on soon. trying to figure out my catch can situation at the moment.

have a IE valve cover adapter. bought a baffled catch can however they have the wrong size fittings on it. debating returning it and buying a cheap catch can with a filter on it to vent to atmosphere.

[jsandor91]

bumping this

fuel pump is on new wheels coming wednesday turbo is going on this weekend as long as the last of my silicone hoses come in!

[jsandor91]

its official turbo is going on this weekend!

[ericpaulyoung]

Nice!

[jsandor91]

Nice!

almost forgot EPY is gonna be tuning this soon to be BT beast!

[mec]

pictures or........else......its been a long week im lacking creativity

[jsandor91]

Teaser

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/06/meryhy8u.jpg

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[mec]

Hmm that's the most interesting gtx I've seen in a while, the wastegate is some kind super long specialty and the exit is a conversion plate

[mec]

Hmm that's the most interesting gtx I've seen in a while, the wastegate is some kind super long specialty and the exit is a conversion plate

[drumnjuny]

yeah that is so weird. I've been pretty shocked at the differences between different turbos of the same model, almost seems like they have different hot sides!!

btw if u have a GTX28 and want to go bigger on power i have the larger turbine housing (.86 vs .63 A/R or something like that) :) been sitting around for a year. just realized i should hit up the other people going with the GTX28

[jsandor91]

Thanks arjun but I think I will have a hard enough time pushing the smaller ar but I will keep you in mind.
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[ericpaulyoung]

I see a lot of extra space for a second turbo.

EPY

[kloeb2]

Nice! Are you doin rods? Still with the rs4 injectors too?

[jsandor91]

I see a lot of extra space for a second turbo.

EPY

i see what you did there!


Nice! Are you doin rods? Still with the rs4 injectors too?

i switched to s3's actually and rods will come soon. for the meantime gonna be running a conservative tune.

[kloeb2]

But its so easy and so much fun to crank the boost up with maestro. :)

U need rods bro

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[mec]

But its so easy and so much fun to crank the boost up with maestro. :)

U need rods bro

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I second this. I put my file back down to 24 psi since I don't have lpfp figured out but even when I was at 22 psi, it's a rod bender for sure, it builds so hard, you hit three thousand rpms, mash the accelerator pedal and there's no stoping, just full on commit til 7000 rpms

[kloeb2]

I actually just decreased my file to26 psi cause of fueling issues too. My low pressure side seems fine but my rail is having trouble holding 130 bar at wot.

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[jsandor91]

I think I'm gonna be around 18-20 psi with a linear torque curve

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[mec]

I think I'm gonna be around 18-20 psi with a linear torque curve

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But at 18 you'll want more the next day. Anything under 20 is just a tease when it comes to gtx, you feel like you could be going so much faster! Do rods it will take you a day if you get everything organized.

[jsandor91]

Yea once I have the funds I will pick up rods . I'll be happy with 18psi for a bit .

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[drumnjuny]

i honestly think at 22 it starts to feel like a maniac, at 26 that feeling tapers off

[mec]

i honestly think at 22 it starts to feel like a maniac, at 26 that feeling tapers off

Does the feeling come back at 34 psi? lol what does it feel like at 30? I've been wanting to crank up the boost but I haven't had time to install that controller.

[jsandor91]

im sure 18psi on a gtx feels like a rocket ship compared to a wimpy k03 no?

[drumnjuny]

honestly after 26 it just feels the same for longer in the powerband going up to 30. but 34 wasn't fun at all. big turbine was lamezor... low end power is way more fun. if i did it over again i wouldn't go down to the 63 cuz the powerband is perfect for me. I don't like to put that much pressure into the motor low in the RPMs when there's a long time spent at TDC and i don't like running the motor in the skies cuz honestly every time i was at 8k the motor was screaming and you just think "this is the time it blows apart"

another 4-6 months i'll be ready to turn the boost up again. i mean i'm on a tune that runs 22psi fine, i have a like 3 26 psi tunes that run fine w/ and w/o water meth... and i ahve a 30 psi tune i could throw on there i guess today if i wanted to lol. just easier to diagnose w/o any boost control (wastegate pressure) and fun to romp on it all the time without worrying about it. plus with how fucked up my brakes are 16 psi is enough to get into trouble.

[ericpaulyoung]

but 34 wasn't fun at all. big turbine was lamezor... low end power is way more fun.

^ This x 1000


You must have drivable power, or you are just a dyno queen bullshitter ball sucking ho-bag

epy

[jsandor91]

Picking up the car :)

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[mec]

Picking up the car :)

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Actually at 18 psi the gtx doesn't feel ridiculous, it feels faster but it gets ridiculous above 20. Maybe 22. Regardless you're gonna love it and want more immediately!

[kloeb2]

Sweet. Crank up the boost and break her in :D

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[jsandor91]

Actually have to turn down the boost lol

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[aluthman]

Actually have to turn down the boost lol

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I wish I had that problem

[ericpaulyoung]

Yup, he is hitting 22 up top. Not too scary as it happens after 4000 rpm's. but for stock rods I would like to see a flat 19 psi curve for now.

[aluthman]

Oh snap, I forgot he was on stock rods.

[jsandor91]

Epy logs coming your way . popped that cel again but not during my log

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[kloeb2]

Are you running meth yet?

[jsandor91]

Not yet I'm waiting for my 0 gauge wire to come in so I can do the big three upgrade before I hook up my BMP .

Couple engine pics
Did coils yesterday
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And dog pichttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/15/udanu6e4.jpg
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[mec]

Looks awesome! Question: why is your dv next to the throttle body? I thought the whole point of the dv was to relieve pressure from causing surging at the compressor wheel, but this setup seems like it wouldn't protect as well since its not as direct. What are the advantages?

[jsandor91]

Looks awesome! Question: why is your dv next to the throttle body? I thought the whole point of the dv was to relieve pressure from causing surging at the compressor wheel, but this setup seems like it wouldn't protect as well since its not as direct. What are the advantages?


there is a benefit. think about this: when you let off the throttle, the throttle body closes, but the turbo is still blowing air. that pressure has to go somewhere, hence the dv or BOV. The closing throttle plate causes a shockwave through all that pressurized air. this is the shock wave that will cause surging or dv flutter with a bad dv, and can kill turbos. with the dv on the hot side (and in our case, right on the turbo), that shockwave travels through the whole system before the pressure is released. Having the dv on the cold side, that shock wave of pressure travels a shorter distance, and the whole system works a little more efficiently.

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[jsandor91]

And it looks badass . didn't want my synapse to be hidden lol

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[mec]

And it looks badass . didn't want my synapse to be hidden lol

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thats cool, i never would have thought to do that. If you're going to show it you should paint it !

[jsandor91]

thats cool, i never would have thought to do that. If you're going to show it you should paint it !

way ahead of ya

http://synapseengineering.pinnaclecart.com/images/products/secondary/ac015c-1.jpg

[mec]

way ahead of ya

http://synapseengineering.pinnaclecart.com/images/products/secondary/ac015c-1.jpg

sexy....makes me wish Mine was visible lol. Mine is right under the headlight, but actually touching so you can actually see my headlight beam change when I shift at high boost hah

[kloeb2]

Damm maybe I should relocate mine.. powdercoated red would match my red vast VC nicely. Hmm

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[jsandor91]

Cold side ftw . and that would look awesome with your valve cover

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[mec]

Updates?

[jsandor91]

Car exploded and I died with it.....
Jk

I'm on epys latest tune for my car and the boost is dialed down so it feels a bit dull but its pulling once it gets going strong .

Hit 275 g/s at close to sea level . so its flowing pretty good . not going to h20 :thumbdown: so wanna try to get some stuff done this weekend . true cold air intake pcv delete and maybe paint my spare valve cover . I also need to start installing my BMP as im pulling a bit of timing uptop.

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[mec]

Car exploded and I died with it.....
Jk

I'm on epys latest tune for my car and the boost is dialed down so it feels a bit dull but its pulling once it gets going strong .

Hit 275 g/s at close to sea level . so its flowing pretty good . not going to h20 :thumbdown: so wanna try to get some stuff done this weekend . true cold air intake pcv delete and maybe paint my spare valve cover . I also need to start installing my BMP as im pulling a bit of timing uptop.

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hahaha that would be a typical situation as we have seen with the b7 BT community.

Glad it's flowing well. I didn't know EPY was doing your tune, is it legit? I'm trying to find someone extremely talented in Maestro to teach me.

Good news that its all working out.

[canadianA4B7]

nice build!! haven't read through yours in a few weeks but just did a start to finish to see where you are at!! looks nice, considering the Synapse relocation myself when I do my GTX soon!!! also might sound stupid but the VC lines do those ports connect to similar on the GTX turbo? it looks like im going to need some more heater hose to connect them to wherever they go.... but im not quite sure exactly where they are hooking to so im kinda not sure what to use. if you can give me some insight id appreciate cuz I need to get all my goodies setup to do my install once EPYs old stuff becomes my new stuff!!

[jsandor91]

hahaha that would be a typical situation as we have seen with the b7 BT community.

Glad it's flowing well. I didn't know EPY was doing your tune, is it legit? I'm trying to find someone extremely talented in Maestro to teach me.

Good news that its all working out.

Epy is the man been super helpful
And seems to really have maestro down . only on my second revision but the tune already feels solid . cold starts aren't bad . mpgs aren't bad either .



nice build!! haven't read through yours in a few weeks but just did a start to finish to see where you are at!! looks nice, considering the Synapse relocation myself when I do my GTX soon!!! also might sound stupid but the VC lines do those ports connect to similar on the GTX turbo? it looks like im going to need some more heater hose to connect them to wherever they go.... but im not quite sure exactly where they are hooking to so im kinda not sure what to use. if you can give me some insight id appreciate cuz I need to get all my goodies setup to do my install once EPYs old stuff becomes my new stuff!!

OK for my kit the inlet elbow has 4 ports on it . one for dv . one for rear pcv. One for n75 . one for n80. Kloeb was nice enough to get all the hose sizes for me and I can post them up if you need . I'm gonna be doing a pcv delete but leaving the hose to the turbo inlet in . I can also take measurements so you don't buy a lot of extra hose like I did lol .


I believe epy said his inlet had only 3 ports. I could be wrong thou .

If you or anyone is interested in doing the dv relocation . siliconeintakes.com makes a pipe just for that for like $25 bucks .

Hope this clears some things up if not don't hesitate to ask !


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[canadianA4B7]

Epy is the man been super helpful
And seems to really have maestro down . only on my second revision but the tune already feels solid . cold starts aren't bad . mpgs aren't bad either .

OK for my kit the inlet elbow has 4 ports on it . one for dv . one for rear pcv. One for n75 . one for n80. Kloeb was nice enough to get all the hose sizes for me and I can post them up if you need . I'm gonna be doing a pcv delete but leaving the hose to the turbo inlet in . I can also take measurements so you don't buy a lot of extra hose like I did lol .


I believe epy said his inlet had only 3 ports. I could be wrong thou .

If you or anyone is interested in doing the dv relocation . siliconeintakes.com makes a pipe just for that for like $25 bucks .

Hope this clears some things up if not don't hesitate to ask !

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K few questions then. the relocation DV, do you need the T coupling that goes on the cold side to attach the DV to the cold side intercooler piping?
and the intake pipe I believe I saw the photos of his pipe and yes im sure it had 3 ports. so I just need to hook up everything kinda similar to stock locations. the OEM VC to Turbo intake pipe most are replacing with heater hose I assume and 5/8" is what it looks like. if you don't mind pm the the lengths and sizes that will be one more thing I can grab this week to minimize me running around when I get the turbo to Canada!!

Or if you could take a pic of that DV relocation setup on the cold side id like to see what its all about!! looks pretty straight forward!

[jsandor91]

K few questions then. the relocation DV, do you need the T coupling that goes on the cold side to attach the DV to the cold side intercooler piping?
and the intake pipe I believe I saw the photos of his pipe and yes im sure it had 3 ports. so I just need to hook up everything kinda similar to stock locations. the OEM VC to Turbo intake pipe most are replacing with heater hose I assume and 5/8" is what it looks like. if you don't mind pm the the lengths and sizes that will be one more thing I can grab this week to minimize me running around when I get the turbo to Canada!!

Or if you could take a pic of that DV relocation setup on the cold side id like to see what its all about!! looks pretty straight forward!

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/product_info.php?cPath=11&products_id=458&osCsid=8e26c3e7467490a99d9bd196956eb63d

use this pipe get a 1.25 to 1 inch silicone reducer . two clamps.


1 x BOV T-Pipe with 1" BOV T - 2.5" (SSB000458) = $24.99
1 x Silicone Reducer, 1.25" to 1.0" - Black (SIL000127) = $9.99
3 x 8mm Black Silicone Boost/Vacuum Hose Per Ft. (VAC000306) = $4.47
7 x 6mm Red Silicone Boost/Vacuum Hose Per Ft. (VAC000336) = $10.43



i had a little extra 8mm black hose and maybe two foot extra 6mm hose. dependings on how you do the n75 i got more to be safe. the small clamps you can just pick up at walmart they have like a 4 pack for $2.50

sounds like you will have to delete / plug the rear pcv port if you inlet only has 3 ports.

[canadianA4B7]

awesome thanx for the info greatly appreciated im looking up all them items now!! I will pick up silicone for the ports that I need to use. I have the catch can setup on the rear pcv so the front VC ports are all I need to pick up the silicone for.

this setup looks similar to the Stasis turbo installation PDF I found when removing the turbo. they include in there kit a relocation DV silicone that looks very similar to what you have done.

[ericpaulyoung]

Just FYI I can't get texts in Italy, so if anyone is sending me texts, I am not ignoring you ;)

[jsandor91]

Just FYI I can't get texts in Italy, so if anyone is sending me texts, I am not ignoring you ;)

Pics or your in detroit....

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[turbo944s2]

Jsandor why do you hate Detroit so much?

[jsandor91]

Jsandor why do you hate Detroit so much?

i don't lol i couldnt say camden because i go to school in camden. next best thing idk. didn't mean to offend anyone so sorry if i did.

[turbo944s2]

It's cool man I got a sense of humor, just was curious. I had a grudge against New Jersey when they swept the red wings for the Stanley cup.

Hey what are you gonna do about emissions with all those mods?

[jsandor91]

haha the whole world hates nj including myself.

i just got my new sticker before the turbo went on and passed with flying colors so im good for two years.
the place i go to is no CEL no problem

[jsandor91]

K few questions then. the relocation DV, do you need the T coupling that goes on the cold side to attach the DV to the cold side intercooler piping?
and the intake pipe I believe I saw the photos of his pipe and yes im sure it had 3 ports. so I just need to hook up everything kinda similar to stock locations. the OEM VC to Turbo intake pipe most are replacing with heater hose I assume and 5/8" is what it looks like. if you don't mind pm the the lengths and sizes that will be one more thing I can grab this week to minimize me running around when I get the turbo to Canada!!

Or if you could take a pic of that DV relocation setup on the cold side id like to see what its all about!! looks pretty straight forward!



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[mec]

updates on the tuning?

[jsandor91]

updates on the tuning?
Nope gonna stay on this tune till I can iron some things out with the car.

My to do list for the next few weeks
Cam follower
Fuel filter
Pcv delete / vta
Wrinkle black valve cover
True cold air intake
Meth injection (BMP+)
Grounding kit (0 gauge)

And non performance related
finally get my Miro's on lol.
Install Carbon fiber wrapped cupra lip
Finish my carbon fiber trim




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[jsandor91]

Nope gonna stay on this tune till I can iron some things out with the car.

My to do list for the next few weeks
Cam follower
Fuel filter
Pcv delete / vta
Wrinkle black valve cover
True cold air intake
Meth injection (BMP+)
Grounding kit (0 gauge)

And non performance related
finally get my Miro's on lol.
Install Carbon fiber wrapped cupra lip
Finish my carbon fiber trim


These alone should be good for 50hp ^^

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[mec]

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Hows' progress coming?

[jsandor91]

Its been slow lately. Put wheels and spacers on. Also attached the hose and nozzles for my intercooler sprayer kit . waiting on my buddy to get me a valve cover gasket so I can swap my valve cover and delete my pcv.

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[mec]

Its been slow lately. Put wheels and spacers on. Also attached the hose and nozzles for my intercooler sprayer kit . waiting on my buddy to get me a valve cover gasket so I can swap my valve cover and delete my pcv.

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Did you feel that your intercooler wasn't cooling enough on its own? I've been hearing lots about these intercooler sprayer kits, but wouldn't you have better results just misting inside the intake piping, that way water is not conducted through metal to cool but cools air directly?

Ooh you know what would be cool, is running some kind of nitrogen setup to most the intercooler, would probably be expensive but it would be ice cold!

[jsandor91]

Did you feel that your intercooler wasn't cooling enough on its own? I've been hearing lots about these intercooler sprayer kits, but wouldn't you have better results just misting inside the intake piping, that way water is not conducted through metal to cool but cools air directly?

Ooh you know what would be cool, is running some kind of nitrogen setup to most the intercooler, would probably be expensive but it would be ice cold!

that would be very cool no pun inteneded... with the ability to spray while not in boost i would be worried that the nozzles would cause puddling in the intake piping since it is not high pressure at all. my intercooler seems to be fine its rated to 480hp i think my ghetto intake is what's really hurting me.

[jsandor91]

haven't updated this in a while. car is running good have to change tunes as i have been getting high pressure fault codes. have the glovebox out to fix the hinge / wire up my boost manager plus

[aluthman]

High pressure fault codes for what? Fuel pressure? are you running the RS4 lpfp controller?

[jsandor91]

High pressure fault codes for what? Fuel pressure? are you running the RS4 lpfp controller?

common rail high pressure a few times i spiked to 140 bar when i only have a 135 bar prv. according to epy the hpfp upgrade valve cannot dump pressure fast enough for when it spikes

[aluthman]

Hmmm, so what's the solution for this? I've got the HPFPupgrade 145 bar PRV and I've seen spikes to 140bar or so before. I've never had a fault code from it though.

[jsandor91]

Hmmm, so what's the solution for this? I've got the HPFPupgrade 145 bar PRV and I've seen spikes to 140bar or so before. I've never had a fault code from it though.

because i'm spiking more then the prv is rated for so i throw a code. since you have a 145 bar prv you have not exceeded it by hitting 140
epy altered my tune so i shouldn't spike more then 125 which should keep me from throwing a code.

[mec]

because i'm spiking more then the prv is rated for so i throw a code. since you have a 145 bar prv you have not exceeded it by hitting 140
epy altered my tune so i shouldn't spike more then 125 which should keep me from throwing a code.

I think the thing that Adam is getting at is that the PRV has no sensors, so the ECU does not know what the PRV rating is....usually this kind of thing is due to the tune.

[jsandor91]

I think the thing that Adam is getting at is that the PRV has no sensors, so the ECU does not know what the PRV rating is....usually this kind of thing is due to the tune.

hmm. i was under the assumption the the cracking of the prv was causing the cel because it cracks to keep pressure from getting to high.

"The 145 bar PRV will compliment any tune that has a requested 125 to 135 bar." according to hpfpupgrade so i thought to high of pressure leads to high pressure cel no?

[mec]

hmm. i was under the assumption the the cracking of the prv was causing the cel because it cracks to keep pressure from getting to high.

"The 145 bar PRV will compliment any tune that has a requested 125 to 135 bar." according to hpfpupgrade so i thought to high of pressure leads to high pressure cel no?

Well one thing that may be happening is that your PRV is designed to crack at 135 Bar, while it cracks, it may be that the ECU is still requesting fuel, so pressure builds to 135, prv cracks but is not open sufficiently so for a split second you see pressure go to 140 Bar. But then this would be an issue with the tuning. In this instance it is not the PRV relaying info but it would be the fuel rail sensor saying "ECU, you asked for 135, but i'm getting 140, I can't keep up with draining all this fuel" so then you would just remove a bit of fuel from the parts where you see spiking.

[jsandor91]

Well one thing that may be happening is that your PRV is designed to crack at 135 Bar, while it cracks, it may be that the ECU is still requesting fuel, so pressure builds to 135, prv cracks but is not open sufficiently so for a split second you see pressure go to 140 Bar. But then this would be an issue with the tuning. In this instance it is not the PRV relaying info but it would be the fuel rail sensor saying "ECU, you asked for 135, but i'm getting 140, I can't keep up with draining all this fuel" so then you would just remove a bit of fuel from the parts where you see spiking.


good explanation [up]
once i get my hands on a battery charger ill be switching tunes and seeing if the problem persists.

[mec]

Hopefully you get it taken care of!

[jsandor91]

Hopefully you get it taken care of!

turns on my low pressure side of things are acting funny. on several 2nd gear pulls i experienced fuel pressures as low as 2bar at redline and as high as 3.5bar. considering wiring my bmp+ to see if its the controller or the pump on its way out.

[mec]

turns on my low pressure side of things are acting funny. on several 2nd gear pulls i experienced fuel pressures as low as 2bar at redline and as high as 3.5bar. considering wiring my bmp+ to see if its the controller or the pump on its way out.

did you wire the BMP to the LPFP?

[drumnjuny]

the BMP is only activated at WOT so i'm not sure that would help you, if you wire it up make sure you wire a switch in that way you can compare the two runs at least

[Jake@JHM]

If it turns out to be your LPFP, we got them at a great price!

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/images/B7-A4-RS4-fuel-pump-in-tank_8E0919051CQ.jpg

Clicky! (http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/fuel-pump-assembly-sending-unit-oem-for-b7-a4-all-b7-rs4-p-1782.html)

Jake

[drumnjuny]

wow that is dirt cheap. cheaper than GAP

[Jake@JHM]

And we even offer technical support!

[mec]

the BMP is only activated at WOT so i'm not sure that would help you, if you wire it up make sure you wire a switch in that way you can compare the two runs at least

Why? that never made sense to me....if you bypass the wiring on the ECU and hook it up to the BMP, then it should control it at all times no?

[mec]

wow that is dirt cheap. cheaper than GAP

$15 cheaper! and while you are there you can pick up a $5 cheaper cam follower!

[mec]

And we even offer technical support!

Yeah but I heard that Jake guy is a real dick

[Jake@JHM]

Yeah but I heard that Jake guy is a real dick

Yeah that's what I heard too! Man if I ever run into that guy...

[jsandor91]

did you wire the BMP to the LPFP?


not yet. still currently on stock everything but the big fluctuations in pressure make me think the controller? idk [confused]


the BMP is only activated at WOT so i'm not sure that would help you, if you wire it up make sure you wire a switch in that way you can compare the two runs at least

so basically under wot the bmp tells the fuel pump to get its ass in gear? a switch is a good idea btw. also do you have any insight on how to wire it up?


If it turns out to be your LPFP, we got them at a great price!

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/images/B7-A4-RS4-fuel-pump-in-tank_8E0919051CQ.jpg

Clicky! (http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/fuel-pump-assembly-sending-unit-oem-for-b7-a4-all-b7-rs4-p-1782.html)

Jake

thanks for the offer but i'd likely upgrade to a dw300 .

[mec]

Yeah that's what I heard too! Man if I ever run into that guy...

You guys seem to be able to sell everything way lower than everyone else, whats the secret Jake?

[mec]

not yet. still currently on stock everything but the big fluctuations in pressure make me think the controller? idk [confused]



so basically under wot the bmp tells the fuel pump to get its ass in gear? a switch is a good idea btw. also do you have any insight on how to wire it up?



thanks for the offer but i'd likely upgrade to a dw300 .

Don't do it....lol the stock pump is the best option we have. DW-300 makes your gas gauge all funky because you can only use half of your tank, and its just not as nice as the stock unit. Definitely roll with the stocker

[jsandor91]

You guys seem to be able to sell everything way lower than everyone else, whats the secret Jake?

what i imagine

http://www.dvd.net.au/movies/t/08189-3.jpg

[Jake@JHM]

You guys seem to be able to sell everything way lower than everyone else, whats the secret Jake?

We order large quantities of stock to be able to pass on the savings [up]. Not to mention we leave little margin for ourselves and the little we do make on this platform goes right back into R&D for future products.

Jake

[Jake@JHM]

what i imagine

http://www.dvd.net.au/movies/t/08189-3.jpg

ROFL! Damn, now the truth is out.

[jsandor91]

Don't do it....lol the stock pump is the best option we have. DW-300 makes your gas gauge all funky because you can only use half of your tank, and its just not as nice as the stock unit. Definitely roll with the stocker

hmm. i'm afraid like the cam follower when running it at much higher then stock levels won't it continue to wear prematurely ?

[mec]

We order large quantities of stock to be able to pass on the savings [up]. Not to mention we leave little margin for ourselves and the little we do make on this platform goes right back into R&D for future products.

Jake
[up]Now that's a good business model!

[mec]

hmm. i'm afraid like the cam follower when running it at much higher then stock levels won't it continue to wear prematurely ?

There's not really enough evidence yet to be able to tell what the reasonable lifespan is at regular load and what it would be at a higher load. From what I understand, the lpfp controller is what can fry, it is generally what goes out as opposed to the pump.

my 2c, but the day my oem pump goes out, another oem one is going right back in, I don't want to deal with finicky gas gauges and having half of my usual range.

[drumnjuny]

when you hit wot it puts voltage through the lines, when you aren't in wot it doesn't. mine was set to 90% i think? you're controlling it as though it is a solenoid if i'm not mistaken... so its either on or off. and my map was 99% duty everywhere because its only shooting voltage at WOT

[jsandor91]

ROFL! Damn, now the truth is out.

knew it.


There's not really enough evidence yet to be able to tell what the reasonable lifespan is at regular load and what it would be at a higher load. From what I understand, the lpfp controller is what can fry, it is generally what goes out as opposed to the pump.

my 2c, but the day my oem pump goes out, another oem one is going right back in, I don't want to deal with finicky gas gauges and having half of my usual range.

do you have a aftermarket fuel controller? what about the ttrs pump?

[jsandor91]

when you hit wot it puts voltage through the lines, when you aren't in wot it doesn't. mine was set to 90% i think? you're controlling it as though it is a solenoid if i'm not mistaken... so its either on or off. and my map was 99% duty everywhere because its only shooting voltage at WOT

99% duty on the bmp correct?

[ericpaulyoung]

my 2c, but the day my oem pump goes out, another oem one is going right back in, I don't want to deal with finicky gas gauges and having half of my usual range.

FYI - I solved this one too :) But no spoilers, cause I don't know if I am going to go this route or just add a second in tank, or a surge tank, or ....

Let's just say it is definitely a "work around" (hint hint)

epy

[mec]

FYI - I solved this one too :) But no spoilers, cause I don't know if I am going to go this route or just add a second in tank, or a surge tank, or ....

Let's just say it is definitely a "work around" (hint hint)

epy

attention whore!!!!! no one likes secrets eric...no one

[drumnjuny]

99% duty on the bmp correct?

yep, when throttle is over a certain percent it clicks on, essentially is the understanding i have. the setting is somewhere in the BMP i don't remember cuz i haven't run mine in a while.

[jsandor91]

FYI - I solved this one too :) But no spoilers, cause I don't know if I am going to go this route or just add a second in tank, or a surge tank, or ....

Let's just say it is definitely a "work around" (hint hint)

epy

do share!
also lets say my stock fuel controller is my issue can i run the bmp with the stock fuel controller because the only time i have a problem is at wot?


yep, when throttle is over a certain percent it clicks on, essentially is the understanding i have. the setting is somewhere in the BMP i don't remember cuz i haven't run mine in a while.

hmm sounds like i have some tinkering to do. does anyone else have the bmp wired up this way besides you?

[mec]

yep, when throttle is over a certain percent it clicks on, essentially is the understanding i have. the setting is somewhere in the BMP i don't remember cuz i haven't run mine in a while.

ahh ok, when I had taken a look at it I had only seen the map that looks identical to the methanol map, and so I figured it was something that controlled always, but then you run into the issue that if the ECU never requests 90% you will never have the bmp working?

[drumnjuny]

shane would be the person to ask. he had wired his BMP but tbh i don't think he ever actually tuned for it or used the map.

and ya my map was just pegged at 99% lpfp duty no matter where i was in the map, i asked cuz i was like that's not safe and found out that it only controls it at wot

[austin white]

has anyone done the ttrs lpfp or is it mostly speculation? as far as i can tell there are only two lpfp options that are there, one being with usp which is too expensive, and the other being consistently flawed. for the most part no one really exceeds the stock pump, so i am finding it hard to see any alternatives to oem. Are there any others?

[aluthman]

Dw300 is also an option. EPY i think has the TTRS pump, but he Frankensteined it into a double pump setup. Most people are ok by using the RS4 pump controller and the stock pump.

[jsandor91]

small update. dash is still in pieces. did some vagcom mods today. clear corners ftw.

[mec]

Why is the dash in pieces? oh BMP right? that is not a fun wiring project. did you dyno yet?

[jsandor91]

Why is the dash in pieces? oh BMP right? that is not a fun wiring project. did you dyno yet?

Yea BMP and so much school work haven't had time to finish it. And no dyno yet but I pulled on a b8 s5 the other day

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[mec]

Yea BMP and so much school work haven't had time to finish it. And no dyno yet but I pulled on a b8 s5 the other day

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Heyo! Stock engine romping on v8! Has Epy still been tuning you or are you where you want to be fornow?

[jsandor91]

Heyo! Stock engine romping on v8! Has Epy still been tuning you or are you where you want to be fornow?

just been using this revision for now. no sense in doing anymore tuning yet. once i finish meth, fix my intake and figure out my lpfp woes ill get a revised file.

proof is in the pudding


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ona7DI9tSnU

[mec]

wow I did not expect it to be that big of a difference.... thats impressive man! The only other stock audi I've gone up against was an rs4, but it was a joke up here at altitude, that thing is like 280awhp. Then I went up against a k04, thing held perfectly with me....it was kind of pathetic.

[jsandor91]

wow I did not expect it to be that big of a difference.... thats impressive man! The only other stock audi I've gone up against was an rs4, but it was a joke up here at altitude, that thing is like 280awhp. Then I went up against a k04, thing held perfectly with me....it was kind of pathetic.

for what its worth he was in 5th on the second run. doesn't make as big of a difference for a n/a car vs boosted but still worth noting. also got to compare fly's leds to his and mine were brighter [:D] aftermarket parts ftw.

[mec]

now just get rid of two of your doors and it will be an all around better, sexier car!

[jsandor91]

now just get rid of two of your doors and it will be an all around better, sexier car!

i would actually prefer a s5 sportback!

[Jake@JHM]

Come race a JHM S5 =]

[jsandor91]

Come race a JHM S5 =]

Gladly ! How much time did all those bolt ons shave off ? I feel like that motor won't ever be really straight line fast without a bottle or a blower but boy does it sound good.

I went for a ride in the s5 I raced and it was so smooth I couldn't believe it.

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[mec]

Oooh jhm supercharged s5? Or just bolt ons

[Jake@JHM]

Gladly ! How much time did all those bolt ons shave off ? I feel like that motor won't ever be really straight line fast without a bottle or a blower but boy does it sound good.

I went for a ride in the s5 I raced and it was so smooth I couldn't believe it.

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Our N/A s5 went 12.6 with bolt-ons. Completely stock they are an absolute dog. Tuning plus hardware really wakes them up!


Oooh jhm supercharged s5? Or just bolt ons

Hmm.. Both!

[jsandor91]

Our N/A s5 went 12.6 with bolt-ons. Completely stock they are an absolute dog. Tuning plus hardware really wakes them up!



Hmm.. Both!

Ohh I only saw the 12.8 video didn't realize you guys got it down to 12.6 I'd like to go against a jhm 4.2 anything once I get my tuning down but until then I'm content with smoking stock 55k cars lol.

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[Jake@JHM]

Ohh I only saw the 12.8 video didn't realize you guys got it down to 12.6 I'd like to go against a jhm 4.2 anything once I get my tuning down but until then I'm content with smoking stock 55k cars lol.

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Most definitely!

Yeah we through on our lightweight rotors and where able to take some more time off. That time isn't officially released yet, but hopefully the S5 guys aren't browsing your thread [:D].

I am glad you are enjoying your car though! [up]

[jsandor91]

Most definitely!

Yeah we through on our lightweight rotors and where able to take some more time off. That time isn't officially released yet, but hopefully the S5 guys aren't browsing your thread [:D].

I am glad you are enjoying your car though! [up]

Every pound counts especially when your lugging around a big v8 !
Here's a question for you, I remember Shane mentioning similarities between his clutch kits and jhm's. Would the jhm flywheel work with my drakes stage v clutch ?

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[Jake@JHM]

Even more so when it is rotational mass! Lightweight rotors, Flywheel, and crank pulleys make a bigger difference than people realize.

Have you ever sprinted with shoes on, and then sprinted again without shoes? Same sort of effect!

Unfortunately not because the welded washers on the bottom of those RS4 pressure plates will not work with our flywheel. It will require a completely unmodified pressure plate. The disc should work though!

Jake

[jsandor91]

Even more so when it is rotational mass! Lightweight rotors, Flywheel, and crank pulleys make a bigger difference than people realize.

Have you ever sprinted with shoes on, and then sprinted again without shoes? Same sort of effect!

Unfortunately not because the welded washers on the bottom of those RS4 pressure plates will not work with our flywheel. It will require a completely unmodified pressure plate. The disc should work though!

Jake

damn i feel like i need some jhm parts on my car... all the cool kids are doing it.

[mec]

Every pound counts especially when your lugging around a big v8 !
Here's a question for you, I remember Shane mentioning similarities between his clutch kits and jhm's. Would the jhm flywheel work with my drakes stage v clutch ?

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I have a clutch masters singlemass flywheel that would fit...

[Jake@JHM]

damn i feel like i need some jhm parts on my car... all the cool kids are doing it.

Haha its not just the cool kids, its the kids know want parts that work! [up]

Jake

[jsandor91]

I have a clutch masters singlemass flywheel that would fit...

What was the chatter like with it ?

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[mec]

What was the chatter like with it ?

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0....I ran it with a vast stage 2 pressure plate and quite literally there was no chatter. The only setup that I have seen chatter is the Clutch masters aluminum flywheels, and the fx400. something about those two.

[aluthman]

0....I ran it with a vast stage 2 pressure plate and quite literally there was no chatter. The only setup that I have seen chatter is the Clutch masters aluminum flywheels, and the fx400. something about those two.

I can second this. I'm running the CM steel SMFW and a Drake's Stage 4 with no chatter.

[Jake@JHM]

All LWFWs will have some sort of "Chatter" its just usually so low that people with after market exhaust can't hear it. Or if you have the radio on.. or if you have the windows down.. or if you have the AC/Heater on.. lol

[mec]

All LWFWs will have some sort of "Chatter" its just usually so low that people with after market exhaust can't hear it. Or if you have the radio on.. or if you have the windows down.. or if you have the AC/Heater on.. lol

Pshhhhh you cray! Really though? I guess my definitely of chatter is when you take off you can feel small repetitive tugs...like the disk is skipping on the flywheel. I've never had that, but I have seen it in other cars with aluminum flywheels. Strange this is I don't get it with your flywheel.

[Jake@JHM]

Pshhhhh you cray! Really though? I guess my definitely of chatter is when you take off you can feel small repetitive tugs...like the disk is skipping on the flywheel. I've never had that, but I have seen it in other cars with aluminum flywheels. Strange this is I don't get it with your flywheel.

That is because you were thinking of REAL flywheel chatter.

I put the "" around chatter because the Audi community distinguishes chatter as the noise that gets transferred through a solid flywheel since there is no rubber or plastic to absorb it.

The Audi Owner version of chatter cannot be changed because of how deep it has gotten within the community. So I just roll with calling it "chatter" since I know they are referring to the noise and it would take too much time to explain to them that its not chatter when they will reply with "but this is what everyone says chatter is on the internetz"

Just like the whole spark plug debacle. 2 years of people believing X is the right spark plug heat range makes it really hard to convince them that it is wrong..[headbang]

[drumnjuny]

so... what spark plugs should we be using lol?

[Jake@JHM]

Lol!

1 heat range colder will be NGK 8 or Bosch 5

[drumnjuny]

bosch f5dp0r?

[mec]

zomg the information!!!!! So you are saying I really do have chatter, I just don't know any better?

[Jake@JHM]

bosch f5dp0r?

That would work great. Gap it at .028 and work it closer from there until its running best.

[mec]

work it closer? as in smaller gap? I thought bigger gap was better?

[Jake@JHM]

zomg the information!!!!! So you are saying I really do have chatter, I just don't know any better?

Haha you do not have real chatter. If you have what the Audi Community considers chatter you would never know because your exhaust is too loud.


work it closer? as in smaller gap? I thought bigger gap was better?

Yeah, smaller gap. More boost = more compression. More compression makes it harder for your spark to jump the gap so it needs to be tighter to keep from overworking your coil packs.

Also, the leaner it is the harder it is for the spark to jump gaps as well!

[jsandor91]

Haha you do not have real chatter. If you have what the Audi Community considers chatter you would never know because your exhaust is too loud.



Yeah, smaller gap. More boost = more compression. More compression makes it harder for your spark to jump the gap so it needs to be tighter to keep from overworking your coil packs.

Also, the leaner it is the harder it is for the spark to jump gaps as well!



under any circumstances do you recommend running two steps colder from stock? so ngk 9's

[Jake@JHM]

under any circumstances do you recommend running two steps colder from stock? so ngk 9's

Yeah high boost applications go for it. I just haven't seen a build on a 2.0T that would really call for a plug that cold. Since the heat range on a spark plug only indicates the plugs ability to dissipate heat, if you have too hot of a plug with too high of compression the plug will be retaining so much heat that it will detonate the charge before the spark plug even ignites. This is exactly how a diesel engine works.

The higher the compression - the colder the plug needed.

More boost = more compression.

[jsandor91]

Had out first warm day here in nj and my current intake setup is sucking the big one. 85 F according to my dash after a lousy second gear I was only able to pull 239 g/s where in 50 degree weather I would easily see 280-290 also even while cruising at 40mph my intake temps were through the roof 39 c which is like 102 f http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/15/sehemepa.jpg

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[Jake@JHM]

Had out first warm day here in nj and my current intake setup is sucking the big one. 85 F according to my dash after a lousy second gear I was only able to pull 239 g/s where in 50 degree weather I would easily see 280-290 also even while cruising at 40mph my intake temps were through the roof 39 c which is like 102 f http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/15/sehemepa.jpg

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What intercoolers? Throw on that stock intake/grille snorkel and see how much it drops.

[drumnjuny]

jake i need a heat shield from ya still!!

[Jake@JHM]

Haha I have that plastic one I painted black with a JHM decal on it if you want to buy it =P

[mec]

Haha I have that plastic one I painted black with a JHM decal on it if you want to buy it =P

lets start the biddding at $40

[jsandor91]

What intercoolers? Throw on that stock intake/grille snorkel and see how much it drops.

Tr18 rated for 480 HP or 720cfm .
Current intake looks like this but I have the OEM snorkel "feeding " air 17887

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[Jake@JHM]

lets start the biddding at $40

Sounds like a plan!



Tr18 rated for 480 HP or 720cfm .
Current intake looks like this but I have the OEM snorkel "feeding " air 17887

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the OEM snorkel is not shown in the photo, are we talking about two different things?

[Jake@JHM]

I am referring to this guy:

http://www.audiction.com/app/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/audi-a4-b7-2-0t-stasis-exhaust-034motorsport-hfc-install-03.jpg

[jsandor91]

Sounds like a plan!





the OEM snorkel is not shown in the photo, are we talking about two different things?

Yea it was added after , I'm talking about the piece that attaches to the front bumper to the intake

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[jsandor91]

17888 current pic

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[Jake@JHM]

Yea it was added after , I'm talking about the piece that attaches to the front bumper to the intake

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Hm..

[p0isin]

I've had a tr18t fmic for a while now and it works fine. It required minor crash bar modification, I posted a thread on it if you want more info.

[jsandor91]

I've had a tr18t fmic for a while now and it works fine. It required minor crash bar modification, I posted a thread on it if you want more info.

I already have it installed but I said screw the crash bar but I'll check it out and reconsider installing it

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[jsandor91]

Did another test cruised at 40mph outside temp 68 intake air temp close to 80. However at 70mph I was only see temps around 72-74. And barely went up after a second gear pull

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[drumnjuny]

pretty sure this thread needs moar launch control video...

[Jake@JHM]

pretty sure this thread needs moar launch control video...

x54321

[mec]

How do you like your spin-techs? I've been looking to redo my exhaust a bit...

[jsandor91]

pretty sure this thread needs moar launch control video...


x54321

i launched it but the big turbo tire spinning epicness wont allow me to post it.


jk. what view do you guys want. like gopro pov view or like outside view ?

[jsandor91]

How do you like your spin-techs? I've been looking to redo my exhaust a bit...

love them personally. my exhaust video on youtube should give you a idea of how they sound.
imo they are some of the deepest sounding mufflers for a 2.0 fsi . i got alot of compliments and people asking me what exhaust i had.
i don't have ressonators so they drone pretty bad but ill be getting a a synapse no drone soon hopefully.

[mec]

love them personally. my exhaust video on youtube should give you a idea of how they sound.
imo they are some of the deepest sounding mufflers for a 2.0 fsi . i got alot of compliments and people asking me what exhaust i had.
i don't have ressonators so they drone pretty bad but ill be getting a a synapse no drone soon hopefully.

Synapse resonators? I thought they make DV/BOV's? Also while we are on this note, how do you work launch control?

step 1: Go to maestro and click the button, set RPM's to 4000.
step 2: Flash.
step 3: Profit
step 4:????
step 5: Activates by itself in the car?

[drumnjuny]

i think its just, when the clutch is floored and you're stopped and in first, and then u floor the gas, it will stop at the assigned rpm right?

[mec]

huh....that seems way too simple, like something that I would totally fall into while just driving sometime.

[drumnjuny]

huh....that seems way too simple, like something that I would totally fall into while just driving sometime.

nah. you'd have to be standstill and 100% throttle

[jsandor91]

Synapse resonators? I thought they make DV/BOV's? Also while we are on this note, how do you work launch control?

step 1: Go to maestro and click the button, set RPM's to 4000.
step 2: Flash.
step 3: Profit
step 4:????
step 5: Activates by itself in the car?

Synapse makes a branch resonator in all different sizes !
And what arjun said . you have to be stopped

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[mec]

Wow just looked it up, That is awesome, I hope they are a decent price....that would be really cool, I'm surprised no one has made these in mass quantities before, its a genius idea.

[jsandor91]

Wow just looked it up, That is awesome, I hope they are a decent price....that would be really cool, I'm surprised no one has made these in mass quantities before, its a genius idea.

They are like 40-70 . I want one but not enough to pay like 300 to make one .

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[mec]

They are like 40-70 . I want one but not enough to pay like 300 to make one .

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thats a crazy good price

[drumnjuny]

wow i will buy one at that price.... maybe. my exhaust sounds pretty good actually but a branch resonator would allow me to fine tune the slight drone that i do have, to a little lower/higher RPMs.


then again exhaust and frequencies are so foreign to me, might be best to just leave it how it is.

[mec]

wow i will buy one at that price.... maybe. my exhaust sounds pretty good actually but a branch resonator would allow me to fine tune the slight drone that i do have, to a little lower/higher RPMs.


then again exhaust and frequencies are so foreign to me, might be best to just leave it how it is.

You're exhaust is perfect, I wouldn't add one. I'm still so blown away by how much difference there is in exhausts.

[drumnjuny]

i know right, you'd think its just metal tubing but no...

[mec]

i know right, you'd think its just metal tubing but no...

metal tubing with all sorts of crazy juju

[Jake@JHM]

Is it just me, or is jsandor the only BT car that is currently being enjoyed? (that was not a complete kit from a company) Not to mention he is still on stock rods!

[drumnjuny]

^^ yup. BT cars weren't meant to be enjoyed Jake!! get with the program haha...


in all seriousness if i hadn't just destroyed one of my wheels... my car would be "done" right now. only needs a few more things and i will be on to the enjoyment part... although TBH i already have been enjoying driving this thing hard for the past two months or so. replacing the hubs, wheel bearings, and control arms did wonders!! Can't wait to get my summer tires back on and finish this bitch.

[mec]

Is it just me, or is jsandor the only BT car that is currently being enjoyed? (that was not a complete kit from a company) Not to mention he is still on stock rods!

I enjoy my car for 2-3 months at a time...then something goes wrong lolol.

[Jake@JHM]

Haha poor 2.0T

[jsandor91]

Is it just me, or is jsandor the only BT car that is currently being enjoyed? (that was not a complete kit from a company) Not to mention he is still on stock rods!

i take that as a compliment thanks jake [up]

she has almost 10k on her since i went bt and haven't had any real problems except i had the night from hell on sunday

driving home from visiting the gf at yale which is approx 160 miles from me. its 2am empty road, i see halos approaching me pretty quickly.

its a e39 540i with dinan badges and a hell of the a supercharger whine. we slow down to 50 to do a pull first pull i put a couple cars on him.

we slow down and go again from 40 this time, i only get a about a car on him car is feeling sluggish still seeing decent psi. and i hear a loud pop intercooler pipe popped off car shut off coasted off the road.

long story short had the right size wrench for the clamp but it was near impossible to get to with the bumper on as it was the piece between the turbo outlet and fmic hot side.

its secure now but still gonna order a new coupler for good measure .


^^ yup. BT cars weren't meant to be enjoyed Jake!! get with the program haha...


in all seriousness if i hadn't just destroyed one of my wheels... my car would be "done" right now. only needs a few more things and i will be on to the enjoyment part... although TBH i already have been enjoying driving this thing hard for the past two months or so. replacing the hubs, wheel bearings, and control arms did wonders!! Can't wait to get my summer tires back on and finish this bitch.

[Jake@JHM]

No problem[up]

You like to race a lot. You need to keep a go pro with you at all times to capture these races! That way you can bring back hope for the B7 community because everyone things the 2.0T is a slow car.

[jsandor91]

No problem[up]

You like to race a lot. You need to keep a go pro with you at all times to capture these races! That way you can bring back hope for the B7 community because everyone things the 2.0T is a slow car.

its not so much that i like to race but when people hear the loudness, the wide and low wheels etc. they start with me and if conditions are ideal ( no traffic, open road, clear weather) why not have some fun.

my suction cup mount broke so i will need to get a new one but as soon as i do ill keep it in my car for such a occasion.

i think your proving to everyone that a properly tuned bolt on k03 isn't a slow car either. low 13's is what alot of performance 6 and 8 cyl are making from the factory

[Jake@JHM]

its not so much that i like to race but when people hear the loudness, the wide and low wheels etc. they start with me and if conditions are ideal ( no traffic, open road, clear weather) why not have some fun.

my suction cup mount broke so i will need to get a new one but as soon as i do ill keep it in my car for such a occasion.

i think your proving to everyone that a properly tuned bolt on k03 isn't a slow car either. low 13's is what alot of performance 6 and 8 cyl are making from the factory

Hold the camera with your mouth if you have too!

Haha thanks [up]. My car was quicker than most of the WRX/EVOs that were at the track too! People seeing a B7 go up against a known quick car like a supercharged BMW gains excitement and motivation!

[seal66]

Damn man it is awesome that your car is running great. My slow mo surprises a lot of cars out there.

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[mec]

Haha poor 2.0T

2.0t FTL!!!! It's all about the 2.5T!! or teslas....I really want a model s....such executive.

[jsandor91]

Hold the camera with your mouth if you have too!

Haha thanks [up]. My car was quicker than most of the WRX/EVOs that were at the track too! People seeing a B7 go up against a known quick car like a supercharged BMW gains excitement and motivation!

ill have to start a thread " what did your b7 race in mexico today"

where videos can be posted lol.

and thats awesome evo's are pretty damn fast out of the box.


Damn man it is awesome that your car is running great. My slow mo surprises a lot of cars out there.

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i'd be willing to bet your car is faster then mine now!
can we get some acceleration videos!?

[Jake@JHM]

ill have to start a thread " what did your b7 race in mexico today"

where videos can be posted lol.

and thats awesome evo's are pretty damn fast out of the box.



i'd be willing to bet your car is faster then mine now!
can we get some acceleration videos!?

A B7 Kill thread would be sweet! If it becomes popular enough it could even become a sticky =P

X2 for e85 vids

[jsandor91]

A B7 Kill thread would be sweet! If it becomes popular enough it could even become a sticky =P

X2 for e85 vids

makin it lol

[Jake@JHM]

makin it lol

You going to flood it with all of the videos you can find?