I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build) [Archive] - Page 2

Storx

06-04-2010, 08:02 AM

the spring he was using was really weak.. it was like barely able to close the arm.. so if that says anything.. you are running an external wastegate right??? you should.. so you can control boost.. haha if you have your wastegate... just run it off spring.. what it 1bar??? then install the spring and if it spools like you want.. then you will be happy... i not been over to the shop.. since the other day.. been packing my house up getting ready for them to come pick up my stuff for tuesday.. and ship it all back to USA.. when i get back to the states.. you will be happy you have that turbo.. cause you will be able to do the mod im going to be doing.. really cheap.. and it will help you out on streetable driving.. but i want to test it out before i publish it all.. also i want to do more testing and studying into this spring only setup.. i really like it but i prefer to have the VGT open while cruising cause EGT shoot up fairly fast with it closed if you run in boost to long without it opening..

ALso just FYI bullseye performance is having an prototype billet wheel made for this turbo.. as it is similar to there HE351CW turbo.. just slightly different shaft.. and the billet wheel for the CW version was only 100.00 when they had there group buy.. so love is coming our way thanks to the DSM guys.. my buddy with an 13B Rotary setup with this turbo.. emailed me letting me know that he took his off to replace his blown rotor and the turbo was perfect.. no melting.. and he has spiked as high as 45psi....and revs his car out to 18k rpms.. on the track.. with it.. said he loves it over her old GT4088.. same power.. just so much more bottomend..

SpeedWorksAuto

06-04-2010, 08:48 AM

Are you running a oil restrictor in the feed line?

And, link me to the bullseye comp wheel stuff please!

I want to be able to run with mine open too. I been thining about using a vacuum refernced actuator with a check valve in it. Im thinking under vac have it hold the thing in the open position, and as vac goes down/load increase it closes it proportionally. Then maybe use drive pressure when boost builds to open it back up. Would be nice to find a actuator that can push and pull, and can be ran with a vac and boost line.

Storx

06-06-2010, 03:50 AM

ya.. that would be a pretty good idea.. a vacuum/boost actuator.. i wander how hard it would to machine one.. a normal wastegate cant be to complicated... to make..

There really isnt a thread on it.. just they sent me email saying they were... when i asked them if they had any interest in modding this turbo.. since they tend to mod every other Holslut (Holset) turbo.. hehe

I went to car show today here in korea.. and i am just apawed by how far America is on performance world.. hell there are Korean Model cars here in Korea.. Petrol that come stock with VGT turbos seen an Korean car there
Its called Samsung FLK36 it looks similar to an Honda S2000 but its like there sportscar here.. it has an 2.0L Hyundai engine with 2 VGT turbos... paired 1 turbo to 2 cylinders.. and there about the size of stock K03 each.. and they had power rated at 440hp..... i can only imagine the curve with both being VGT... The other thing that blew me about this car... the turbos are not horizontally mounted.. they are mounted vertically.. with the exhuast side facing directly down to the ground.. i always thought they had to be damn near leveled.. or bearings would sieze up.. i wish i knew more on mounting them this way.. it would make for huge advantage in any cars engine bay...

SpeedWorksAuto

06-06-2010, 10:08 AM

I saw some guy using a actual pneumatic actuator on his. That way he was actually able to control it via boost and vac, and really tune in the response. Since you gave the idea of running a cable to the lever, I am sure it wont look like butt like his did with that cylinder and bracketry hanging off of his turbo.

oil restrictor?

Storx

06-06-2010, 03:38 PM

its journal bearing.. so you dont use restrictor.. but i dont know if that is the best answer.. i never used an restrictor on any of the cars that has this turbo on them.. but none of them run as high of oil pressure as our car does.. i dont and its been free of seals leaking up to this far.. so my best guess dont run it.. but the stock truck does use one.. but it nearly 1/10 inch hole.. so i dont imagine it reducing any pressure.. maybe more for a pencil stream onto the bearing..

SpeedWorksAuto

06-12-2010, 12:26 AM

Been really busy with the car the last few days:

I was able to get the exhaust downpipe and wastegate all situated
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00422.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00423.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-12-2010, 12:35 AM

Needed to get some extra clearance since the compressor housing still wont clear the headlight:

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00424.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00425.jpg

Original outlet was 2.75" o.d. I had my guy weld on a and shorten it to 2.5 inches and wuite a bit shorter.

SpeedWorksAuto

06-12-2010, 12:38 AM

With a little trimming of the headlight/radiator support we now clear:
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00428.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00431.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00433.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-12-2010, 12:44 AM

long story short.....I had the cold side intercooler piping welded up, installed the last few bits and we are now on the road. Vids and details to come.

Storx

06-12-2010, 03:59 AM

long story short.....I had the cold side intercooler piping welded up, installed the last few bits and we are now on the road. Vids and details to come.

Awesome... that is so awesome... hope things work out for you man.. alot of people lately have been struck by the engine build forgetful bug... people doing builds and forgettin to tighten something and next thing they know the engine is back out cause of it.. 1 guy forgot to tighten the headbolts... so blew headgasket, one guy forgot to tighten the exhuast bolts so it warped his manifold from heat, and another guy forgot to torque the crankshaft cap bolts.. and destroyed his block in less them 60 miles.... please hope things are 100% good for you.. cause i been preeching this turbo for nearly 2 years now.. and noone would beleave me that it was worth running with the size of the turbo being larger then a GT35r... as more install them.. we will learn the tricks around them and mods will come.. like standard T3 flange housing.. and such.. as demand for them arise.. there is already a demand from some DSM guys.. but to small of group still...

I was struck by bad luck.. i flew from Korea to go to my home in North Carolina where i had a house for 10 years now... and picked up my Audi TT from shipping place... flyed into japen for them to cancel every flight after i got there because of a protest... and i was stuck in the airport for 26 hours.. then finally got a flight home to USA...went and picked up my car fromt he shipping company and on the drive down i had toolbox fall out the back of a truck and i swerved to miss it.. and scared myself half to death in my car when i hit the grass doing 75+mph... but luckly the car amazing steering and stopping power stopped me safely.. but i had a screw driver go through my intercooler core... and i had the actual toolbox smack the side of my front right wheel denting the forged lip tearing my tire sidewall open.. and dinting my rear quarterpanel...
about 3 other cars behind me rearend each other.. aswell the toolbox went through the car directly behind me's windshield...the truck hit his brakes to slow down.. but then took back off.. so shittie thing is i didnt get the tag number cause i was to busy swerving his dang toolbox...

then after a few hours and a tow.. i went and got a rental to get home to go sleep... to come home and find that someone had broken into my house and garage from the backyard window.. and the A/C was running full blaze with the window broken... so dont know what to expect for my power bill this month... but about 90% of my stuff is missing from what i can tell aswell as my $4,000+ TIG welder... so sad.. so i am in a hotel right now waiting for insurance company to open up so i can call them...

Sales@RAI

06-12-2010, 08:33 AM

Holy Crap storx. Is your insurance going to cover everything?

SpeedWorksAuto

06-12-2010, 09:09 AM

All the sudden my problems dont seem so big. Welcome to home?
This time I carefully eyed the temp gauge, and keep checking all my hoses to be sure I was getting the fluids to flow. Everything so far is good. The motor is leaning more than it was when I mocked everything up so now the turbo rubs somewhere on the strut tower. I have a lot of finalizing to do, but hopefully I will be able to do a break in today, and start putting some miles on it.

Anybody familliar with the software side? I am running Maestro and I need to know if I turn all the emissions stuff of in the software will it show readiness when I go to the emissions place?

Sigma 3

06-12-2010, 02:42 PM

Storx , sorry about your home coming.

Good luck Speed.

Storx

06-13-2010, 06:09 PM

hey speed. did you swap over to wideband?? cause you really need to have wideband for the turbo VGT adjustment.. cause the wideband alone has a hard enough time adjust in the quick time the A/F changes....

SpeedWorksAuto

06-14-2010, 08:28 PM

I just been watching the stock wbo2.

So, my car tune is set for 3bar fuel pressure, and my car is 4bar. To retune was a click away, but now the stupid damn thing wont communicate. The car runs and idles horrid since it is running stupid rich. I am seeing a fuel correction of around -24%. I am able to build about 5-6 psi of boost before the computer freaks out and throws me into limp.

I am running the VGT without any control, and it opens on its own. I just leave it open and run it. It sounds really good as the thing starts to spool, but its such a tease not being able to get on it.

Playing witht the VGT, I cant believe how much it quiets the exhaust with it all the way shut. Its almost stock sounding. Then as the VGT creeps open its like a exhaust cutout. I cant waut to get the actuator on this thing to keep it closed at idle to cut the noise.

SpeedWorksAuto

06-15-2010, 04:53 PM

WELL....after fouling out a few sets of plugs and chasing my tail. Not being able to build any boost without the computer freaking the hell out as it tried to pull over 25% of the fuel out at times..... I got in contact with a buddy of mines that is running the same year car on Maestro. COme to find out Chris Tapp's 630cc injector base files are set for a 3bar fuel pressure regulator, and My car runs a 4bar stock. No problem right? I mean, hell, thats just a couple clicks of the mouse away and JOILA a 4 bar tune right? Oh HELLS NAH, that would be too freakn easy. Now my software, out of the blue, doesnt even recognize my my car. No flashing, reading, logging for me....

Emailed Chris, and he has yet to return my mail. I took matters into my own hands, ran down to Absolute German and picked up a 3 bar. Car still took forever and a day to get to run, and when it did start it idled like crap. I went for a quick spin around the block and it was still sputtering like crazy. The more I let it run the better the idle got, until the sucker just got a hold of itself and idled like a champ.

With the 4 bar, I couldnt evn boost over 5 psi without the car going into limp, now I was able to get what my wastegate is set at, 13psi. She is still sputtering a bit under high load....building boost going uphill. I will have to wait for my software to get sorted to fix the rest of the issues.

SpeedWorksAuto

06-15-2010, 05:00 PM

Well, heres a couple vids showing the difference in sound with the VGT open and closed. There was lots of background noise, but you can get the idea:

VGT closed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaDGTdDF2UU

VGT open
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjOXN9SgA-I

Sigma 3

06-15-2010, 11:54 PM

Right on! Glad its coming together. I should be close as well. Then I can start on the real beast. ; ) Do you think you will have it done for the Levenworth drive?

SpeedWorksAuto

06-23-2010, 10:27 PM

im not sure how you feel about your manifold.. but we just welded the turbine housing directly to the manifold so we wouldnt have any issues with the weight making leaks.. cause if you read diesel forums.. and the stock truck has issues with the weight making leaks.. aswell some of the people who have put these on there older model cummins engines.... just take it to a good welder so he can get some good penetration.. the housing is just steel.. not nickle steel or cast iron like most garretts... i wish i could just show you what i mean but the dang pictures are all stuck on my buddys camera.. which doesnt want to connect to any PC we try to plug it into Grrrr.. but what we did was pickup one of those $90 dollar cast ATP closes and since people have issues with the threads cracking on them or coming out.. we just shaved it to the angle we wanted.. and just welded the housing directly to it.. also that large flat lump you see on the turbo.. you can shave that down by alot it just there because on the engine it came off of.. it rest against the motor there to help with the weight.... the housing on these turbos are nearly 1/2 inch thick on the walls..just look at it from the inside and you will see what i mean.. we also shaved the large water port and retapped it.. so we didnt have as much weight.... we took almost 2pds off the turbo..

I listened. The manifold bolts just couldnt stay tight, and I think one of them was pulling out the threads. SO, adapter to manifold WELDED, wastegate relocation adapter to manifold WELDED.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00456-1.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-23-2010, 10:30 PM

I also got rid of the silencer portion of the inlet.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00454-1.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00455-1.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-23-2010, 10:32 PM

And last but not least I trimmed the hump off of the turbine housing...

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00458-1.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-23-2010, 10:39 PM

For the last week or so, hell every since I got this thing running, I have been trying to figure out why I have been having such massive missfires. They were sometimes so bad that the car wouldnt even rev in neutral past 2k. Driving around under load.....NAH. If I slowly give it throttle sometimes it would just burble for a bit and adjust and run enough, but I havent been able to really get on it. If it wasnt for the hot plugs with the small gap I gave them I dont think this thing would even start and idle.

The more I thought about it, and it really sounded like a ignition problem. Plus I have been randomly getting the ESP light, leading me to think something was jacked electrically. I took the coils off and pulled back the rubber boot that was around the connector and......

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00460-1.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00461.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-23-2010, 10:42 PM

Three of the four coils had a wire that wasnt even connected, one coil connector just crumbled in my hand, and another just had a bunch of exposed wire just rubbing against each other.

I now have to find somewhere that will let me hack apart a harness so I can fix this mess. Hopefully this cures my running problems.

I am sure I am not the only one this has happened to. It seems as if the heat has turned the insulation brittle and with me constantly installing removing my coils they have been giving away. I dont know how long they have been like this, but as far as I remember something has always been a little bit off every since I did the GT3071.

bmx_a4

06-24-2010, 09:29 AM

Oh that sucks. I hate trying to rewire stuff. At least you found it though. I probably would've been stumped for quite a bit longer haha.

A4DRIVR

06-24-2010, 12:24 PM

I'm going to have to look into this... Ever since my last spark plug change, I have been getting wicked misfires. Not to mention my motor has started bucking on occasion, especially when cold or when under light load and light throttle inputs.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-01-2010, 08:40 AM

In trying to diagnose why my software wasnt reading my ecu I finally decided to give it one last effort. I wasnt going to leave the car until the problem was fixed. Something told me to go through my fuses again. One by one I pulled them out and they were all good. Then I looked on the back of the fuse panel cover and checked all the ones that were linked to the ecm. All of the sudden a spot labeled DIAG. just jumped out at me. I never saw that one before. I went to pull the fuse to check it.....ya I feel like such a 'tard. There wasnt even a fuse. I stuck a fuse in there tried the software and voila, just like that my ecu was recognized and everything was working again. Thing is I dont remember messing with any fuses in between the last time the software was working and when it stopped.

mcaanda

07-01-2010, 08:42 AM

The neighborhood squirrels are plotting against you.

Its the only solution.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-01-2010, 08:50 AM

NEXT.........car was still running stupid rich, and now I can see the thing dumping 23% fuel. I tried dialing it back a few times and no matter what I did it was just dumping gas. In talking to A4drivr, he told me which measuring blocks were for the o2 voltages, lambda and whatnot. I watched the o2 sensor volts for a few and they were stuck at .435 no matter what I did, and the car was dumping gas in. HMMMM...I unplugged the o2 and ran it. The car ran the exact same way. I ran and grabbed the o2 from my wbo2 setup plugged it in, cleared the codes, did a tb adapt, and magic. The car instantly ran better. At idle I still see it adding anywhere from 15-21%, but when it startd reading from the sensors, it doesnt just start loping and sputtering from it trying to fix a lean situation that doesnt exist. This time it was a seemless switchover. It still sputters a bit when cold at low rpms, but after that at most throttle inputs watching the laptop and driving, therer didnt appear to be any compensation in fueling needed.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-01-2010, 08:52 AM

Mcaanda, the evergreen speedway is having the drifting on the 9th and 10th, make it happen....the flyer says "RAIN OR SHINE"....LMAO

mcaanda

07-01-2010, 09:07 AM

Mcaanda, the evergreen speedway is having the drifting on the 9th and 10th, make it happen....the flyer says "RAIN OR SHINE"....LMAO

Thats right, we went last year but somehow didn't end up w/ any slightly used tires like a great number of others. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_evqBnv4L5AI/SQfr8czlu5I/AAAAAAAACX0/jIJZkhlx23o/s800/scratchchin.gif

SpeedWorksAuto

07-01-2010, 09:12 AM

year before last..........emphasis on RAIN. [drive]

A4DRIVR

07-01-2010, 09:38 AM

Now just post us up some logs so we can start to help you tune this beast! Google documents is the bomb... I'm just sayin'

SpeedWorksAuto

07-01-2010, 04:08 PM

google documents? what is this you speak of?

mcaanda

07-01-2010, 06:44 PM

It s an easy way to place documents online for others to download and review and share, but you need to have a gmail account for access. Its actually really slick and super easy to share documents with it.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-03-2010, 11:43 AM

Now, everything is still a bit rough since I am still my shakedowns, but boy let me tell you, a big turbo that can give you 10psi BEFORE 3k is where its at! Mind you I am still running straight wastegate spring, so I am limited to 13psi. I am still working on getting the thing to adjust so I can fully use the VGT rack. I also need to make a brace since the turbo is starting to make my adapter develop cracks.

But, overall, I couldnt be happier with my decision to go with this turbo.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-07-2010, 05:21 PM

Log from today:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnckIBaJqMJjdDE0ZllELWZ3V1R6X240VlhMWllVN nc&hl=en#gid=0

Let me know what you guys think. I have added 20% to my injector constant to bring my fuel trims more in line. and this log shows the results.

nagle10

07-07-2010, 05:23 PM

Dont have permission to view spreadsheet

SpeedWorksAuto

07-07-2010, 05:28 PM

how about now?

nagle10

07-07-2010, 05:28 PM

good to go

SpeedWorksAuto

07-07-2010, 06:32 PM

the car sems to be runing on the minumum timing map.........

SpeedWorksAuto

07-09-2010, 11:59 AM

mcaanda

07-10-2010, 03:54 AM

Emailed to Support, and figured out the software issue. All is good in the hood, except what now appears to be a massive boost leak.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnckIBaJqMJjdFZ2TjVyNmJ1dHJGUUt5NFhFUjR2M VE&hl=en#gid=0

WTF son, make that shit public.

silverman

07-10-2010, 08:57 AM

yeahhhhh public man!

PRY4SNO

07-10-2010, 10:58 AM

Wow. I read the whole goddamn thread this morning.

Hats off to you, sir. Looking forward to your dyno too!

nunya

07-10-2010, 01:29 PM

SpeedWorksAuto

07-11-2010, 12:33 AM

Sorry, I didnt think I had to make every single one Public:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnckIBaJqMJjdFZ2TjVyNmJ1dHJGUUt5NFhFUjR2M VE&hl=en

SpeedWorksAuto

07-11-2010, 12:38 AM

Any how I was mesing around yesterday and spotted a brand new M3...with the dope V8 in it....Holy crap those things sound soooo goood! After a few attempts at egging him on, I finally caught him with a stretch and open lane next to him. I got on it and let the BOV sing right in his open window. Ya, it was on and cracking. There was a stoplight and we were in the same lane, He punched it, I gave chase and we just locked in. We ended up dead even he didnt pull on me, and I didnt gain on him. But, that thing sounded damned sexy as hey was winding it out.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-11-2010, 12:45 AM

Later on in the evening I hooked up the MBC and gave it a few turns. Holy crap this thing a 20+psi is insane. I let it go a few times on the freeway, I dropped to third and let the rpms sit right at
4k. Anywhere I throttled the boost would jump past 25psi, and the tires let loose a little bit.....and then my FX400. I think soon it will be time for the next step in clutches. I will upload a video I caught in a few.

speedydragon

07-11-2010, 04:03 AM

^ I approve of that post.

bmx_a4

07-11-2010, 09:45 AM

SpeedWorksAuto

07-12-2010, 02:48 PM

ANd now we are back to square one...........I was driving on my way back form the parents, and I heard a slight pop. I pulled off at the next exit, opnened the hood, and smelled what seemed to be some brake/hydraulic fluid burning. It was all over the drivers side and was dripping down and getting blown down on the hot exhaust causing tons of smoke. Whatb really pissed me off was the fact that I saw this fluid dripping in the holes that you can see the flywheel through. Needless to say the clutch is slipping like crazy and I am starting to get really frustrated by the money pit now.

I spent the evening looking for the leak and couldnt find it. I figured it would be obvious. Brake fluid topped off, power steering topped off, I cant seem to find the clutch resovoir. So, its coming out again when I decide what clutch to go with. I am kinda digging the spec stg3+. I like the idea that its a full face clutch and its rated for 550tq. My FX400 being a sprunng six puck did seem to chatter a little with my modded LWFW.

Any suggestions for a clutch. I never launch the car, it probably will never see track duty. I just need it to hold when the boost comes on fast and hard.

JumboBlack1.8

07-12-2010, 05:08 PM

I've got the Spec Stg3+ in my car.....It's fantastic....Great release point. Smooth, and NO chatter w/ a lightweight flywheel....It's an excellent option for a high HP DD. Love it

SpeedWorksAuto

07-16-2010, 03:51 PM

Storx

07-21-2010, 09:19 AM

I am going to loose it.

I cant find where all that fluid came from. The clutch pedal still has good pressure. The clutch does seem to release a bit differently, but I dont know how much of that can be attributed to the fact that it was saturated with fluid. My brake fluid res. is till topped off and thats puzzling me considering how much fluid seeamed to be blown all over my bay. I do have a funky rattling sound now coming from the clutch area. It goes away when I press in the pedal.

I am lost. How does a leak seem to fix itself? I havent seen any fluid since it happened, which would lead me to believe that wherever the fluid came from is probably now empty.

whats up man... long time no talk.. but i am happy to hear you got it for the most part running.. just figure out that leak and upgrade the clutch and you will be good to go.. just wait to you get to break 25psi.. 25psi seems to be like a huge warp in power after taht point.. it will kinda scare u when u hear what sounds like the turbo downspooling.. when its really not.. just the way it sounds at that point... The clutch i run is FX8500 Mini Twin and the driving is really smooth and nice compared to the Spec Stage 3+ engagement we had before that got destroyed by this turbo... I am still waiting on parts to fix my issues.. and hope to have my car back up and running after the issue on the interstate...keep in touch man.. [email protected]

SpeedWorksAuto

07-21-2010, 03:57 PM

Sales@RAI

07-23-2010, 06:22 AM

I dabbled in the 20+psi range by accident and it was pretty wicked. I keep saying I have a vid of it happening, but I cant find my cable so i can upload it.

As of now I am hunting down a transmission since the fluid that ruined my clutch wasnt from my slave...found that out the hardway after all four wheels locking up on a offramp.
I also need to track down another turbine housing since my little plate with the slots is seized and I think is warped from my car running with no timing and getting waaay tooo hot. My VGT isnt closing down all the way, and now the car feels like I have a 35r in it. Boost comes on ~4k to 4.5k.

1. Hells yea on breaking the tires free when you hit boost. I've done it on rare occasions, and it almost makes you laugh when you realize how much power it really is.
2. Sucks on the trans, my guess is that it was the plug on the side of it. Its like a T60 plug or something, but they come loose.
3. I have a Southbend Stage 4. I've launched it 50+ times with 450+awhp and no problems. I've even broken a FW and 3 transmissions in the meantime. I couldn't be any happier with it

JumboBlack1.8

07-23-2010, 06:42 AM

1. Hells yea on breaking the tires free when you hit boost. I've done it on rare occasions, and it almost makes you laugh when you realize how much power it really is.

Damn.....I've really gotta turn up my boost (at 18psi) and get my car dialed in (currently on the base tune).....I wanna know what that feels like [evilsmile][drive]

sean1.8t

07-23-2010, 09:06 AM

1. Hells yea on breaking the tires free when you hit boost. I've done it on rare occasions, and it almost makes you laugh when you realize how much power it really is.
2. Sucks on the trans, my guess is that it was the plug on the side of it. Its like a T60 plug or something, but they come loose.
3. I have a Southbend Stage 4. I've launched it 50+ times with 450+awhp and no problems. I've even broken a FW and 3 transmissions in the meantime. I couldn't be any happier with it

you are the minority there. like literally the only one. you have some sort of special sb stg 4 clutch. cause all others are junk. OP, get the 240 mm fx400

onemoremile

07-23-2010, 09:13 AM

SpeedWorksAuto

07-23-2010, 10:09 PM

well, today I drove 2 hours in traffic to get to some guys shop...that didnt know the address, or city better yet. This punk said he lives in Everett, so I am like cool. Me and the girl can shoot down ther right after work. Turns out he stays in Marysville. If you arent from around here driving from Renton to Everett is maybe 30-45 mins. with traffic in the carpool lanes at around 3pm. Marysville is the next neighboring city up from Everett, but for some reason it will take over an hour to get from exit 183 to exit 199. Then Dude didnt know how to pronounce street names. He aid left on Bruce street....he meant Grove street. Only way I found that out was by having him spell it. So, more time wasted driving around in MARYSVILLE looking for a no-existent street. Then I finally meet up with him, and he takes me yet another 20 or so minutes out into the backwoods. At this point I am wishing I grabbed a pistola on my way out the door.

Finally I get to this little dirt road that lead to this garage and therer was this totalled yellow a4. First thing I do is go check to see if it had a push down shifter, sure nuff it does. So, I am like jeez, I never really checked to see where the push down feature comes from. The shifter and I am fine, the tranny and I aint with it at all. I think push down reverse is hella lame. I start trying to call 034 and my local shops, and we are so far into BFE that I have no reception. After not really being able to determine what to do at this point I just tell ole boy that I have to get back at him another time.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-23-2010, 10:10 PM

I get home and research and I think I have come to the conclusion that I could have used the tranny with my shifter and linkage and been fine. Now I am really pissed!

sean1.8t

07-23-2010, 11:12 PM

I've put over 100k miles on an ofe sb with the ss plate. That includes over 10k miles on tracks. I've tried to break it but no luck yet. That said, I would go with something burlier for that much power.

yeah, but you were only on a k03 and k04 for the life of that clutch. im talking people that are running 300+wtq. you spinn the clutch and not the tires and you're in fuse-town. i've done it twice myself

onemoremile

07-24-2010, 07:40 PM

yeah, but you were only on a k03 and k04 for the life of that clutch. im talking people that are running 300+wtq. you spinn the clutch and not the tires and you're in fuse-town. i've done it twice myself

I agree hence that last line of my post. :)

Sales@RAI

07-28-2010, 01:56 PM

You can use any trans from 96-04 they are all identical except for the engine ratios

Sales@RAI

07-28-2010, 01:57 PM

you are the minority there. like literally the only one. you have some sort of special sb stg 4 clutch. cause all others are junk. OP, get the 240 mm fx400

I've only ever seen the Stage 5 fuse. The stage 4 has been great on just about everything. I think southbend got a bad name from the rivet problem they had, and the stage 5s fusing.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-28-2010, 08:38 PM

Why does this type of stuff happen to us?

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/SNC00522.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/SNC00523.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/SNC00524.jpg

A4DRIVR

07-29-2010, 04:54 AM

Where'd that come from? [:/]

NeedingAnAudi

07-29-2010, 10:27 AM

Looks like a pressure plate bolt. Yes?

SpeedWorksAuto

07-29-2010, 03:35 PM

All the pressure plate bolts are there. I dont have the slightest clue as to where this bolt came from. I was thinking maybe it got lucky and fell in one of the holes on top of the trans where you can see the flywheel through. Myabe I am just so irresponsible that I leave random bolts all over my engine bay. I really dont know at this point. I guess its good to know where the mystery fluid came from.

Sales@RAI

07-29-2010, 03:38 PM

hmmmm. So is the trans toast? Or are you going to patch it?

I'm trying to think about that bolt. Does it have a 5mm or 6mm head?

SpeedWorksAuto

07-29-2010, 04:57 PM

I believe it was a 6mm bolt. But that tranny is toast and its replacement is already mounted. I just need to connect everything and Its all done.

To add insult to injury, I took my manifold and associated crap in to work today to check it for flatness on the granite slab, because I was getting massive exhaust leaks. Sure enough the ATP logger is warped all to hell again. I am sure the ultra high EGT from the low timing situation didnt help. I really want to go another direction for that part of my build right now. I am thinking more along the lines of V-Bands on the mani and the turbo. and something like a SPA-ish setup. They look a bit more robust and have been shown to make a bit more power.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-30-2010, 06:44 PM

My boss and I looked over the mani again. He didnt beieve how much it warped until I showed him. "Holy crap, thats gotta be like .060.....its warped like a freaking banana!" So, after rigging this really awkard POS to the plate......

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00525.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00526.jpg

Now its sit perfectly flat, but at this point I just want it to last about a month or so until I am ready to have me a new mani made, or want to experiment with the SPA mani.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-30-2010, 06:58 PM

How the hell do you guys put the slave cylinder back on? I was messing with this thing for over an hour last night to no avail.

michael66899

07-31-2010, 12:05 AM

^its a real pain in the ass, I put some grease on it and use a long flathead as leverage to push it all the way in, good luck I can't wait to see this thing all finished up. Good luck man!

SpeedWorksAuto

07-31-2010, 12:56 AM

I finally was able to upload one of the yucky videos I tried to take when it was all together last. This was when I was on the freeway in third gear and I was slowly giving it gas. The boost came on all of the sudden, the tires let loose a lil bit, and I had to quickly grab for the wheel while holding the camera. I never really expected the car to get a bit squirmy. I had just added my MBC and aparently I needed to back it off quite a bit.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/th_SNC00473.jpg (http://s360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/?action=view&current=SNC00473.mp4)

SpeedWorksAuto

07-31-2010, 01:12 AM

Here a few pictures of my brace I was getting started on. My buddy that saw the pictures and then seen it in person and said it looks way better in person. Maybe I need to take better pictures. You can also see my external wastegate actuator and its bracket that I am using to move the vgt lever staring around 7psi.
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/fromtheq271.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/fromtheq272.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/fromtheq273.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/fromtheq270.jpg

NeedingAnAudi

07-31-2010, 09:37 AM

Wow thats a pretty cool brace, very artistic design. If you clean that up a little and shoot some paint that would be quite a focal piece.

SpeedWorksAuto

07-31-2010, 11:54 AM

I am thinking about adding bolting some aluminum sheetting to it to help guard as heat shield. I admit I do have a lot of cleanup to do though. I was welding it together at my buds parents house and it was really late at night...and we were outside in the dark. I was just trying to get it together because I felt that at any moment my turbo was going to fall off.

Sales@RAI

07-31-2010, 12:34 PM

WOW. never realized how big that hotside was. Looks like you dont get boost till about 5500 though?

SpeedWorksAuto

07-31-2010, 02:47 PM

WOW. never realized how big that hotside was. Looks like you dont get boost till about 5500 though?

I get over 10psi by 3500rpm, and I start making boost about 3k

SpeedWorksAuto

08-02-2010, 05:05 AM

I finally got it buttoned back up yesterday...I actually was taking my time, working on it a few hours spratically. Good news is the clutch is holding. It is holding better than it was before actually. I babied it over to my buddies house and I took a few people for rides. With two other people in the car and around 20psi the clutch didnt slip one bit. I was really shocked.

So, you can clean a clutch disk. Mine was a prime example since it had all the tranny fluid shot on it, and sat in the fluid for over a week.

Bad news, I think I need a new starter now.

A4DRIVR

08-03-2010, 05:32 AM

It never ends...

SpeedWorksAuto

08-08-2010, 11:40 AM

I have beenworking on my tuning a bit and was able to add a ton of timing to the mid to low load range of the pump gas timing map. It has improved overall driveability, off boost response, and helps me get into boost where the fun happens a bit faster.

NOW, the real treat is when you get into the throttle vs. airflow map.

base throttle vs airflow map:
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/maestro/throttlevsairflowbasetune.jpg

same map smoothed out:
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/maestro/throttlevsairflowsmoothed.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

08-08-2010, 11:50 AM

This tweak alone has made the car so much more responsive. I am still working on getting it just right. IF you give it too much too soon the car will be a on off switch when it comes to the throttle....think sprint booster. So far I have made the transition from off boost to on way smoother. I think I have dropped the lag a few hundred more RPM. I dont know for sure what was going on with this map base, but i just didnt like the large jump from 5o something percent throttle to 100%. It seemed to me like it had lag dialed in to the throttle. I added a larger range of numbers to make it more of a curve, and I was able to get 10 psi by 3500rpms with my VGT not even closing down all the way. When my new turbine housing gets here, I think this is gonna be pretty nice since it should drop the lag by a few hundred more rpms.

Storx

08-09-2010, 07:40 PM

haha.. you are getting her good man.. cant wait to here from you when its all buttoned up.. i am still getting moved into my new place.. and been living out of a suitcase for almost 4 weeks now.. tell today when my stuff showed up.. i was so happy cause my car needed an oil change and i had like 4 sets of oil changes all saved up... since noone around my new place sells mobil 1 0w40 in stock.. have to special order it.. so i am a bit unhappy about that..

Storx

08-09-2010, 07:41 PM

i got my new cylinder head in and new cams from my buddy up in new york... im pretty hyped about porting out this head.. since the one i run now is a stock aeb with stock amu internals..

Altech75

08-16-2010, 05:25 PM

Damn man, you hit 5k and it was like the hammer just came down on that sonuvagun. I'd be scared shitless getting into that thing for the first time.

Audi Skate Snow

08-16-2010, 06:10 PM

i got my new cylinder head in and new cams from my buddy up in new york... im pretty hyped about porting out this head.. since the one i run now is a stock aeb with stock amu internals..

you want to sell the AEB head ot me?

SpeedWorksAuto

08-18-2010, 12:33 PM

Decided to change gears. All this make and break stuff is wearing on me.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/023.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

08-18-2010, 12:40 PM

Got the s4 sideskirts on the car already. Since I am 2001 I just epoxied them to the stock sills...

Me being too anxious and not giving a damn That it was 12am...I just had to see
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/025.jpg

before:
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/027.jpg

after:

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/039.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/042.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

08-18-2010, 12:47 PM

I Was able to grab a bunch oy navy interior pieces from a totalled S4 last weekend too.

All four door cards...I wanted em since they all had speakers in them, instead of just the fronts like the mine.
Rear Deck
A, B and C pillars Sunroof overhead light control, rear overhead lights, all four headrests, back of the front seats. The outermost section of the rear seats, the rear armrest, sunvisors, and a few more odds and ends.

I like it. Its hard to see what all is going on overall in the pictures, but before my interior was pretty much all white-ish.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/022.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/044.jpg

AND ALL THIS STUFF IS NOW FOR SALE FOR CHEAPO!!!

SpeedWorksAuto

08-18-2010, 01:11 PM

Headrests
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/029.jpg
A, B, C pillars and handles
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/fromtheq012.jpg
Seat backs
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/030.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/031.jpg
Rear seat bolsters
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/033.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/038.jpg
sunroof control/overhead lights and visors
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/fromtheq013.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Body%20and%20Interior/fromtheq011.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

08-18-2010, 01:14 PM

Only thing I didnt show was the rear armrest and the rear deck. The car is full of the old interior parts so those will be added later.

SpeedWorksAuto

08-18-2010, 01:35 PM

So, on to the breaking of things part. My turbo is now a paper weight. I guess the EXTREME high EGTs I got from running on the ultra ultra low timing map caused things to distort alot. First off the ring in my turbine housing siezed up. I ordered a new turbine housing, andthe vanes wont seat fully in the slots. Look again and they are all very slightly tweaked. I can see where they were hitting the slots the close down into. I tried fitting everything together, got a bit overzealous with a hammer (frustration) and now I have another one on the way.

Im also considering welding the turbine housing to the manifold/adapter like mentioned previously in the thread by Storx. I just cant keep this heavy turbo and manifold mated together leak free, and I dont think I can properly tune this thing with massive exhaust leaks.

BrokeDown[20V]

09-06-2010, 09:50 AM

Please send me a PM regarding the Bolsters I bought.

Sales@RAI

09-13-2010, 10:20 AM

damn, good thing the turbos are only $300

SpeedWorksAuto

09-16-2010, 04:12 PM

UPdate...

Been really busy at work, but still been at it.

*New parts installed in turbo
*75mm throttle body from Passat W8 installed
*exhaust housing welded on
*tune tune tune tune tune........

I will try to post pictures of the goods this weekend.

Dan[FN]6262

09-16-2010, 04:46 PM

very nice!!!!!!!!!

SpeedWorksAuto

09-18-2010, 09:08 AM

Some pictures to keep the thread alive:

75mm throttle body from a Passat W8
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/SNC00618.jpg

Measuring for the adapter
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/SNC00620.jpg

Showing why I will need a custom mani if I really want to put this 3" bore to use
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/SNC00621.jpg

Adapter done. 3" to 2.5" I.D. Will need to bore the intake mani. Probably get get just a hair over 2.5" I.D. when all done
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00623.jpg

Here you can see the work I will have to do to the stock mani to at least open it up to the minumum 2.5".
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00625.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00624.jpg

[wrench]

Sales@RAI

09-19-2010, 10:38 PM

I got about 3 AEB manis sitting here. Why not make a plenum? You certainly have the ability

SpeedWorksAuto

09-20-2010, 11:51 AM

I got about 3 AEB manis sitting here. Why not make a plenum? You certainly have the ability

I plan on making a whole new plenum area. I am thinking I am going to go the 2 1/2 times the cubic inch displacement route to size up my plenum. The base for the plennum will get some velocity stacks miled in. I am slo thinking on playing with the runner length a bit. I should be hacking apart the plenum you se in the pictures today since it is my spare.

Sigma 3

09-20-2010, 12:47 PM

Looking good! Did you get another holset?

SpeedWorksAuto

09-21-2010, 01:09 AM

Looking good! Did you get another holset?

Ya, I got another Holset. I am not ready to throw in the towel on this turbo yet.

Sales@RAI

09-21-2010, 02:51 PM

I plan on making a whole new plenum area. I am thinking I am going to go the 2 1/2 times the cubic inch displacement route to size up my plenum. The base for the plennum will get some velocity stacks miled in. I am slo thinking on playing with the runner length a bit. I should be hacking apart the plenum you se in the pictures today since it is my spare.

DO IT. Can't wait to see you finally dial in the holset. I've had my eye on these since I saw that aero guy's DSM thread way back

SpeedWorksAuto

09-21-2010, 05:49 PM

DO IT. Can't wait to see you finally dial in the holset. I've had my eye on these since I saw that aero guy's DSM thread way back

Funny thing...Aero and a few others are helping me get all my stuff dialed in.

Sigma 3

10-04-2010, 02:07 PM

Whats the word ?

SpeedWorksAuto

10-06-2010, 07:06 PM

nunya

10-06-2010, 08:37 PM

word is......last monday night I was heading over to my buddies house and a racoon sp? was running down the street...not across, but down the street. AS he went under my car the lil bastardo politley broke my oil level sensor, and a few other things. Didint catch it before it was too late. So, motor is back apart, head is at the shop AGAIN gettting the once over, and the block will soon follow.

Ouch man, damn raccoons. I guess you lost oil pressure?

--dillon

SpeedWorksAuto

10-08-2010, 02:53 PM

yup. Lost bottom end which sent crap through the head and lost that too.

I dont wanna do this anymore

Sales@RAI

10-13-2010, 11:54 AM

Wow, sorry to hear

A4DRIVR

10-13-2010, 12:05 PM

word is......last monday night I was heading over to my buddies house and a racoon sp? was running down the street...not across, but down the street. AS he went under my car the lil bastardo politley broke my oil level sensor, and a few other things. Didint catch it before it was too late. So, motor is back apart, head is at the shop AGAIN gettting the once over, and the block will soon follow.

That is one freakin' hard headed Raccoon! I'm glad that I invested in an aluminum skid plate... might be something you add to the build once you get the motor put back together.

A4DRIVR

10-27-2010, 04:56 AM

So... what's the dizzle? Is the beast headed back together yet?

SpeedWorksAuto

10-28-2010, 09:35 PM

Well, I finally uploaded a vid showing spool starting from low rpms. I think I was on the freeway 3rd or 4th gear. ~15psi before 4k.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usN3lzukmnc

I still wasnt going WOT yet since my mounts were junk and when boost hit the motor felt like it was gonna jump out the bay.

SpeedWorksAuto

10-28-2010, 09:36 PM

Shop said they had to cut the head apart. The junk that seized it all together was plastic. I dont know where that crap came from.

onemoremile

10-28-2010, 11:56 PM

A4DRIVR

10-29-2010, 05:42 AM

Shop said they had to cut the head apart. The junk that seized it all together was plastic. I dont know where that crap came from.

Did the plastic windage tray shatter and melt when you busted the oil pan?

Dan[FN]6262

10-29-2010, 05:54 AM

I've heard of windage trays melting...

SpeedWorksAuto

10-29-2010, 06:28 AM

Ya know, I forgot all about the plastic windage tray down there. I havent been able to pull the bottom end out yet so I wont be 100% yet. I will hopefully have time this weekend.

As far as spool, Its pretty much like that in all gears. I chose a higher gear so I could film it. In lower gears everything happens too fast. Just add this to the video I posted a page or so back and you get the idea. I am still tweaking my VGT settings though because sometimes it isnt really smooth. Up to about 10 psi it is a nice gradual pull, but past that I think the VGT is being pushed wide open and it cen get pretty scary if I wasnt trying to get on it. Maybe I just need to tune my throttle maps a bit.

walky_talky20

10-30-2010, 09:00 PM

Just read all 10 pages in 1 sitting. Wow, this build is very interesting. Hope you get it back together soon.

Did you get an oil pressure warning from the raccoon incident?

SpeedWorksAuto

10-31-2010, 08:43 PM

Well, it probably wasnt the oil leaking that killed it, but the fact that there was plastic blocking the passages. The windage tray was a no-show today when I pulled the oil pan. I sure hope he can get all that crap cleaned out of the passages.

A4DRIVR

11-01-2010, 04:37 AM

Sounds like you overheated the motor pretty good if you melted down the windage tray and cycled it thru the motor. You prolly want the shop to check both the block and head for warpage and cracks! If need be, I have a AEB cylinder head core I had planned to use for my rebuild (I think you know the one I'm talking about). It's still at the machine shop with a clean bill of health... I had it checked and pressure tested, and all is good.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-01-2010, 07:31 PM

Nah, I am god. They already rebuilt me a head. I sent you pictures today. The pistons are toast...major scuf***e. Needless to say I have a lot of figuring to do. Dave @ IE said hes got a set of 83mm 9.5:1 strokers on the shelf. If I go that route I will need to get a new block reworked...OR, I can get some 83.5mm pistons, and have the block opened up. Down side to that is I have to wait 2-3 weeks for them from JE.

"When life gives you lemons, paint that shit gold!".....................

A4DRIVR

11-02-2010, 05:54 AM

Damn skippy!

Sigma 3

11-04-2010, 01:44 PM

WTF I Did not get pictures???[:D] did you have a chance to read that thread? It sounds like you have made a choice to go ALL IN[;)]

SpeedWorksAuto

11-22-2010, 07:28 PM

Starting all over

Setup for sale:
http://www.audizine.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=44810

A4DRIVR

11-22-2010, 07:36 PM

Noooooooo......

A4DRIVR

11-22-2010, 07:36 PM

I thought u had an AEB intake mani...

SpeedWorksAuto

11-22-2010, 08:07 PM

Its listed...with the adapter, and w8 tb.

A4DRIVR

11-23-2010, 03:15 AM

Are u playin tricks on me... I could have swore it said AWM manifold yesterday. ; )

SpeedWorksAuto

11-23-2010, 06:56 AM

LOL....I did a "ninja" edit right after you posted

SpeedWorksAuto

11-23-2010, 06:59 AM

Anyhow I am going 32 or 40 valve. I am probably going to keep it stock for a while. I am getting worn out from dumping money in this thing every year seemingly around this time of year. Last year I bought all the pats to go from 1.8 to 2.1, this year I am doing the same thing? I quit !

f15046

11-23-2010, 10:58 AM

Are you selling the Holset setup with the manifold?

SpeedWorksAuto

11-23-2010, 01:49 PM

maybe. I hadent really thought about it

Sigma 3

11-24-2010, 01:11 AM

Lowdaily

11-24-2010, 02:20 AM

woah thats bad news, i say go bigger dont stick with a 1.8 displacement.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-24-2010, 09:05 AM

esplain yo self

I have been daydreaming about a 40valve V8 out of a A6.....

Sales@RAI

11-25-2010, 08:35 AM

Do the older A8 motor. Its an ABZ I believe. Ive been doing a ton of research on V8 swaps. They can handle a TON of power too

black99.5a4

11-25-2010, 08:45 AM

He's DBW, he wants to use a 00+ 4.2 if he tries to go backwards, you run into the same wiring delimas you do as trying to go DBW in a DBC car.. hell.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-25-2010, 10:58 AM

Well, I ve been told the older 32 valve 4.2 (not sure of engine codes yet) are a bit stronger. But, like the guy said the 2000+ 4.2 40 valve are DBW and will be easier to integrate to the car....If I decide to stay N/A.

I really want to boost it, maybe run a low pressure setup, and make a reliable good amount of power. My problem right now is engine management. I know I can get it to run with the stock ECU, but I really would rather get this thing together witht he intentions of boost. The only option I have right now is 034 and they arent exactly cheap with their SEM.

black99.5a4

11-25-2010, 02:01 PM

You should PM JK35 (Kyle), he runs AEM and has all but mastered it.. try a 1.X 60ft in the rain with the launch controlled all programmed and dialed in, by him. He can build you a plug and play harness for you car with Motronic plugs and all.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-25-2010, 11:29 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot all about that guy. Good call!

Sales@RAI

11-26-2010, 05:38 PM

http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=134583

Sigma 3

11-29-2010, 01:34 AM

vems standalone? dont know much about it though? gl my friend. call if I can be of assistance.

SpeedWorksAuto

01-31-2011, 10:11 PM

Was gonna do a 2.7 single turbo swap, but some Audizine member really turned me off of the whole idea.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/306748-Had-a-bad-experiance-with-B528QM

I guess I am more upset because I usually do my research on people before I buy stuff like this from them. Should have known it sounded too good to be true.

SpeedWorksAuto

01-31-2011, 10:14 PM

Apparently hes been doing this for a few years and somehow he is able to keep doing it on the same forum, even though he has had plenty of compaints.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/408566-Do-not-buy-from-b528qm

SpeedWorksAuto

01-31-2011, 10:15 PM

I am so turned off by this whole ordeal right now. I think Imma just throw the stroker back in and call it good.

JumboBlack1.8

02-01-2011, 05:25 AM

I'd do a 4.2 swap and call it a day. But you seem like a high HP guy......Throw the stroker back in a give Maetro another go. Theres a lot more information out now than when you started

SpeedWorksAuto

02-04-2011, 06:30 PM

I am actually looking into the 40 valve 4.2 swap again. I need to figure out who can get my ecm cleaned up so it would run right if I did the swap. I also need to figure out the clutch flywheel setup. I have a Fidanza LWFW for the 2.7 here. I wonder if that would work. Russian said he used a RS4 setup on his.

If I can get the little details figured out, I just might pull the trigger.

SpeedWorksAuto

02-11-2011, 08:01 PM

Its all Mine: single turbo 2.7 here I come!

http://www.audis4parts.com/product415.html

I am tired of waiting on B528QM. I got most of my money back from Paypal. Wells fargo got me A little more, but since I sent the money in three sums, Paypal is unwilling to refund me 450.00. He claims he shipped it almost two weeks ago....AGAIN. Now he isnt even responding to me, even after saying if I dont get the motor in 10 days hed refund all of my money.

So beware of B528QM......HE IS A CROOK.

SpeedWorksAuto

02-11-2011, 08:11 PM

Anyhow, the motor is going to get shipped middle of the week. While its at his shop, he will be doing the timing belt, and replacing a bunch of other gaskets.

A4DRIVR

02-12-2011, 10:47 AM

Is this motor from a different seller?

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SpeedWorksAuto

02-12-2011, 03:08 PM

Oh yeah. It's from a reputable shop this time. Lesson learned.

SpeedWorksAuto

03-06-2011, 05:06 PM

Well, I picked up my COMPLETE low mileage motor last Thursday.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0078.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

03-06-2011, 05:07 PM

And on Saturday got to work.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0085.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

03-06-2011, 05:11 PM

There is a lot less room than I figured for the single, so imma have to sacrifice the second, or Di like the coupe guy did and run it on the passengers side.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0083.jpg

I hope he doesn't mind me posting his pic.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/MarkandMike065.jpg

A4DRIVR

03-06-2011, 06:35 PM

A shop locally has built two single turbo S4's... but they cut out the second firewall and placed the turbo at the top rear of the motor. They turned out really sweet. The shop that helped locally was R-style performance, but VAST was a big contributor, as well as several other sponsors. The guy was doing one of the conversions for his senior design project for the University of Cincinnati (OCAS). I had seen it in person several times since I occasionally stop by to get some maintenance done on my cars as well as shoot the Schtuff with Chris (Owner of R-style).

SpeedWorksAuto

03-06-2011, 07:57 PM

Wasn't the r-style car the one that originally had the turbo on the passenger side, with exhaust crossover going over the top of the motor?

nunya

03-06-2011, 10:29 PM

Wasn't the r-style car the one that originally had the turbo on the passenger side, with exhaust crossover going over the top of the motor?

The Imola one, yea. Looked like a fire hazard with the down pipe's over over the top of the motor.

AudiA4_20T

03-07-2011, 07:53 PM

there's a whole single turbo thread on the B5 S4 forum

SpeedWorksAuto

03-07-2011, 08:21 PM

I know. I visit it often.

AudiA4_20T

03-07-2011, 10:35 PM

lol nice. I started a new project too.. B6 S4. Got a smokin deal on it with a blown motor. Was thinking about doing a Tial 2.7T in it, but I'm gonna master the 4.2 I think

Sigma 3

03-08-2011, 01:41 AM

lol nice. I started a new project too.. B6 S4. Got a smokin deal on it with a blown motor. Was thinking about doing a Tial 2.7T in it, but I'm gonna master the 4.2 I think
4.2 with the tial kit... just sayin. cellus I will be over there at the end of the month. i expect a running car and a ride.

AudiA4_20T

03-08-2011, 08:36 AM

4.2 with the tial kit... just sayin. cellus I will be over there at the end of the month. i expect a running car and a ride.

haha over where?

SpeedWorksAuto

03-08-2011, 09:53 AM

Ya, I would have if I ever got the standalone situation figured out. I contacted 034 months ago about getting one of their setups. They took all my info, but never got back to me. I don't have time like that, so I had to make a move. Funny thing.....my "move" was to buy a motor from a lame seller and wait 3 mos to get it.

We can all blame Jason at Addict for this swap. He's the one that said ditch the 4.2 and go for big power, and that the 4.2 just can't handle too much.

SpeedWorksAuto

03-08-2011, 10:08 AM

haha over where?

He stays a few hours from me.

Wizard-of-OD

03-09-2011, 06:55 PM

Here you can see the work I will have to do to the stock mani to at least open it up to the minumum 2.5".
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/stroker%20build/SNC00625.jpg
I am assuming you are going to weld that plate to the manifold yes?

AudiA4_20T

03-10-2011, 12:00 PM

SpeedWorksAuto

03-10-2011, 12:45 PM

I am assuming you are going to weld that plate to the manifold yes?

No it was bolted on.

Sigma 3

03-10-2011, 02:31 PM

3 weeks. Get to work.

onemoremile

03-10-2011, 03:37 PM

ditch the 4.2 and go for big power, and that the 4.2 just can't handle too much.

Gumpert and Spyker don't have a problem with it. Ever hear of Heffner's R8 twin turbo?

"The Apollo uses a 4163 cc bi-turbo intercooled version of the Audi V8 engine.[7] The 90° V8 has a closed-deck light metal crankcase with dry sump lubrication. The light metal cylinder heads have five valves per cylinder, four overhead camshafts, VarioCam Direct variable valve timing on the intakes, and hydraulic valve clearance compensation. The double-flow exhaust system has four oxygen sensors to monitor the gas mixture, and a 3-way catalytic converter. Modern controls include an on-board diagnostic system, eight-coil electronic ignition, sequential multipoint fuel injection, and an electronic (drive by wire) accelerator system.

There are 3 engine types available:
Base version - approximately 650 PS (478 kW; 641 bhp)
Sport version - approximately 700 PS (515 kW; 690 bhp)
Race version - approximately 800 PS (588 kW; 789 bhp)"

I could live with a 789 horse 4.2 tt. It wouldn't suck.

Quattro_2.7tt

03-13-2011, 09:55 PM

Gumpert and Spyker don't have a problem with it. Ever hear of Heffner's R8 twin turbo?

"The Apollo uses a 4163 cc bi-turbo intercooled version of the Audi V8 engine.[7] The 90° V8 has a closed-deck light metal crankcase with dry sump lubrication. The light metal cylinder heads have five valves per cylinder, four overhead camshafts, VarioCam Direct variable valve timing on the intakes, and hydraulic valve clearance compensation. The double-flow exhaust system has four oxygen sensors to monitor the gas mixture, and a 3-way catalytic converter. Modern controls include an on-board diagnostic system, eight-coil electronic ignition, sequential multipoint fuel injection, and an electronic (drive by wire) accelerator system.

There are 3 engine types available:
Base version - approximately 650 PS (478 kW; 641 bhp)
Sport version - approximately 700 PS (515 kW; 690 bhp)
Race version - approximately 800 PS (588 kW; 789 bhp)"

I could live with a 789 horse 4.2 tt. It wouldn't suck.

I got to ride in the race version. Won a raffle at EVOMS meet back in 09. It was fast as hell. I got pictures and video if you don't believe me!

SpeedWorksAuto

03-13-2011, 10:03 PM

Pics and vid please

Quattro_2.7tt

03-13-2011, 10:34 PM

Pics and vid please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ey8N1eFnc

At 3:04 and on is me in the Gumpert with a professional driver. One heck of a car!

pics:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9629/picture009za.jpg
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/1410/picture067.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8739/picture068g.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8814/picture070h.jpg

onemoremile

03-15-2011, 12:16 PM

Sweet googley moogley. I made a spot in my pants.

SpeedWorksAuto

03-22-2011, 10:00 PM

Got my feelings hurt today....
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0110.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0112.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0113.jpg

A4DRIVR

03-23-2011, 05:41 AM

I don't get it???

AudiA4_20T

03-23-2011, 09:16 AM

I don't get it???

He didn't realize that the runners were so small inside the shell when we was trying to make his single setup

Sigma 3

03-23-2011, 01:10 PM

Moment of silence... Now whats the plan? are you going to use s4 manis an re route the piping?

AudiA4_20T

03-23-2011, 01:14 PM

some guys buy the ebay manifolds and redo some of the piping

SpeedWorksAuto

03-23-2011, 04:49 PM

I was looking at the eBay/topspeed ones s guy has for sale locally. They seem like a bettet start point. Especially since I'd hack em apart anyhow. I just cant get past how tiny that tube is. Buddy of mine suggested 1.5" from the manifolds, then merge them 2 inch to the turbo inlet. I dunno 1.5 still seems small. I had it in my head to run 2" from the manis.

Wizard-of-OD

03-23-2011, 07:43 PM

No it was bolted on.
Ok so you slotted the throttle body then?

SpeedWorksAuto

03-23-2011, 08:14 PM

Ok so you slotted the throttle body then?

What? Why would I need to slot anything?

One set of bolt holes had a countersink to recess the bolts to the mani itself, and the other was the bolt pattern for the throttle body. Why would I make an adapter plate from just to slot the holes on a mating part?

SpeedWorksAuto

03-25-2011, 11:17 PM

I got my hands on a set of 2.8 manis. They seem to be more of what I was thinking ad far as using stock manifolds. I like that they are cast, thick and heavy. They are also quite a bit bigger in the I.d.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0123.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0120.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0122.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

04-06-2011, 01:14 AM

Nothing stock.is really going to make me happy. So, a snap of a camera, about 5 minutes on SolidWorks, and 2 minutes on the laser, voila, a template for me to go and check on the motor before I get cracking.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0150.jpg

I was going to just buy some flanges, nut I just couldn't see spending the cheese that vendors wanted for them just because I was being lazy.

Sigma 3

04-12-2011, 01:37 AM

Do work son!

AudiA4_20T

04-26-2011, 06:30 PM

Decided to go with a 2.7T for my B6 S4 shell. Interested in what you're doing

SpeedWorksAuto

04-26-2011, 08:26 PM

Well, I am still waiting on the flanges. My mills here are booked tight, but I have a few friends that might be able to help me out.

Looking for some small (1.5-1.75" v bands) and coming up with nothing. I'd like to have a vband connection after the manis.

A4DRIVR

04-27-2011, 05:51 AM

Siliconeintakes.com is a great website for hardware... however, it looks as if 2.00" v-bands are as small as they carry. You may try giving them a call.

V-BANDS (http://www.siliconeintakes.com/index.php?cPath=10&osCsid=dcfd1dea25f13db371534eedf060710a)

AudiA4_20T

04-27-2011, 06:58 AM

http://www.hivolume.com/en/select.php?aftermarket_part=7711

Gonna have to use something like the Tial MV-S 38mm flange

AudiA4_20T

04-27-2011, 07:34 AM

http://www.hivolume.com/en/select.php?aftermarket_part=7711

Gonna have to use something like the Tial MV-S 38mm flange

SpeedWorksAuto

04-27-2011, 08:20 PM

I saw the ones from High volume. I didnt like the thumb screw on the clamp. I also have been looking at the mvs clamps and flanges, but I cant find any definate info as to how big the I.D. is. From a technical sheet I saw from Tial, I think the 38mm the wastegate inlet flange is 1.93" OD at the weld end. The wastegate discharge is 1.675" OD at the weld end. So, it should mate up to 1-1/2" SCH 10 piping. I am going to use 1 1/4 piping for the manis, so i will need to transition to the bigger size.

A4DRIVR

04-28-2011, 04:51 AM

If nothing else, you could fab up the rings. You know, make the ID and weld diameter the size you need, then set-up the OD of the flange to accept the 2.00 v-band clamp. Just a thought...

SpeedWorksAuto

04-28-2011, 07:43 PM

I know.....I know.....I just need to find some dimensions for the o.d of the flanges. I was thinking of doing it that way too because I wanted some kind of male female connection to help align the flanges.

SpeedWorksAuto

04-28-2011, 08:32 PM

I just did a bit of searching and I found three companies that make/have v-bands all the way down to 1.5"

SPDexhaust.com
clampco.com
reidwashbonracing.com

SpeedWorksAuto

04-29-2011, 07:21 PM

Finally got me some flanges cut out thanx to a buddy of mine. http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/imagejpeg952.jpg

Now I can finally get to work.

SpeedWorksAuto

05-17-2011, 12:14 AM

Finally getting started

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0212.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0213.jpg

A4DRIVR

05-26-2011, 09:34 AM

Any more updates?

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SpeedWorksAuto

05-26-2011, 07:53 PM

Lol..slowly hacking my car apart making room for Mr.holset. That thing is a bit of a beast and is requiring a lot of real estate.

SpeedWorksAuto

06-01-2011, 05:39 PM

Firewall gone for now. Will weld in new steel for bracing once I get everything situated. Frame rail is also getting a little love.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0235.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-01-2011, 06:06 PM

Thanks to Agtronic and the posts amd pictures here : http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2498193&page=2

I now have my v band solution....(hope they don't mind me reposting the pics here)

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Misc_172.jpg
1 1/2 SCHEDULE 10 PIPING

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Misc_176.jpg
WASTEGATE OUTLET FLANGE

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Misc_179.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Misc_177.jpg
WASTEGATE INLET FLANGE

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/Misc_178.jpg

I am going to order up a set of the inlet flanges and clamps since my manis will transition to 1 1/2 schedule 10 piping and butt weld them on.

clamp : http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=2271&cat_key=678&prodname=Tial+MVS+Clamp+Inlet
flanges : http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=2269&cat_key=678&prodname=Tial+MVS+Flange+Inlet

SpeedWorksAuto

06-07-2011, 11:58 PM

I Finally got around to making the turbo flange. I was waiting for one of the NC mills to free up, but I had to suck it up, go old school and do it on a manual. 2" inlet to turbo, coming from a 1.5 schedule 10 croosover from manis.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0240.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0242.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0243.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0244.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0245.jpg

Dan[FN]6262

06-08-2011, 07:40 AM

I like where this thread is going.

SpeedWorksAuto

06-08-2011, 08:29 PM

Got it mostly tacked together. V bands were supposed to show up today, but they had to be drop shipped from Tial. I won't see them until Friday.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0250.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0251.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0252.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0253.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-10-2011, 11:23 AM

Fresh off the truck.
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0260.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-10-2011, 12:29 PM

O.D. works out great
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0262.jpg

I.D. not so much
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0264.jpg

I am going to bore them out to about where the second inside diameter starts and eliminate the taper on the inside.
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0265.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-10-2011, 12:34 PM

This whole ordeal kinda sets me back about a week. I planned to have it in the car for final fit, and back out again to drop off at the welder today.

I am really nervous about a completely solid setup. If it tweaks any while he is welding it, I am worried it won't fit back together. I don't want to run flex joints because I don't trust them that much, since I am using that thick piping it should be more than adequate to deal with the stress.

SpeedWorksAuto

06-10-2011, 08:38 PM

Done!
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0267.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0266.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-11-2011, 05:31 PM

Way more room than I thought
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0276.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0274.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-13-2011, 04:24 PM

I have to make myself do something to it everyday or imma loose interest.....new steel to replace some of the crap I hacked out and to help support the power steering rack.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0281.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0282.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0283.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

06-15-2011, 12:36 AM

Well the brace as it was pictured before has been nixed.....

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0285.jpg

Forgot to add the wastegate, and I think I found a really good spot for it.

Sigma 3

06-15-2011, 01:50 AM

keep it up man!

SpeedWorksAuto

06-18-2011, 12:52 PM

Got the manifolds all welded up.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0290.jpg

I am just adding things to the engine bay for bracing between the towers.

michael66899

07-07-2011, 10:18 AM

Good shit buddy, anymore updates? I've been too busy dicking around with my new car and haven't really done any work on the blue car, you should send me those flanges to get me a little more motivated :)

SpeedWorksAuto

08-21-2011, 05:07 PM

Just a litte progress for this weekend:

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0528.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0539.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0537.jpg
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0536.jpg

diabolical1

08-22-2011, 03:49 AM

5857;6581511']I like where this thread is going.
oh yeah!

it's gotten serious!

MOtown A4

09-03-2011, 10:57 AM

any updates? saw vast's RWD single turbo out on woodward ave. down here in detroit a few weeks ago, sickeningly fast! this should be legit!

SpeedWorksAuto

10-21-2011, 10:48 PM

Still at it just getting worn out and frustrated. Parts are still being sourced and I think the remaining parts are payed for just waitin on some vendors to get it together and send them.

Funny how I have been having problem after problem with vendors here, and I tell my local Audi friends about the vendor and they are all like "DUH! we could have told you they suck". Kinda wish the forum was more informative. I mean if it were a private seller and they were screwing up, it would be all over the place. Let one of theses so called "reputable" vendors do the same thing, and it goes unspoken of. Why? I ahve so much wasted time and energy that I almost gave up on this project...hell, the car all together. If they suck, people should know so that the next man can make a informed decision on where to get his parts from, and maybe the vendor would get a chance to see that they do suck, and get their act together.

flynnr

10-21-2011, 11:02 PM

well who was it then? I personally would like to hear about your experiences so i dont make the same mistake you do...

Sigma 3

10-21-2011, 11:47 PM

It was 034 They told him they would next day his stuff and he would have it on Thurs. there was a problem with the transaction and they droped the ball and didnt get back to him. It sucks because they had days to make it right. If he had not called them or checked his bank statements he would be waiting for an order that was never coming. Now My question is what did they do to make it right? You are right if this was one of us we would be put on blast.

SpeedWorksAuto

10-22-2011, 12:15 AM

To put it short yeah. That was part of the story dealing with 034. I called them everyday since I placed the order, and anybody that answered the phone didn't have any answers.....only that KEN was going to call me back. When he did call me back,today, Friday....mind you I made the order on Tuesday, he said my card didn't go through, but "we got a bad connection and he would call me back in a minute". This was @ like 9am. So, when I called him back at 5:45pm I cancelled my order, and I don't think I will be doing business with them again. Not only was the guy dealing with me not upfront, the parade each person put on when I called really pissed me off to say the least. If the shit wasn't there or there was an issue why didn't someone just say so on the many times I called? On and on and on....I can keep going but in the end, this whole transaction sucked, and I am glad it wasn't a really high dollar purchase.

This is just one of the vendors on here that I have been dealing with that has subpar service. I just can't get over the fact that these vendors want to charge an ARM and a leg for their product, and then the service totally sux. Makes me question their whoie business.

Makes we wish I didn't deal with this clickish ass brand and its flakey ass aftermarket in the first place.

So far the only company that has been there for me through all of this crap is Integrated Engineering...highly recommend them, and my boy in Arizona "fuk it" motorsport.

murdered APR a4

10-22-2011, 06:57 AM

i haven't had good experiences with with 034 as well, being put on hold then forgot about....lol or not getting my parts for two weeks when you pay for 2nd day air or something like that, yeah idk where quality control is but it isn't at their business

Doctor

10-22-2011, 07:11 AM

Deja vu . . .

SpeedWorksAuto

10-22-2011, 08:11 AM

Hell, I remember a few months ago I was ready to buy one of their expensive ass ecu, and I just got till time after time someone was gonna call me back once they figure out what all I need and how much. I had cash waiting to buy, and I had to keep calling them to try and get them to stop dragging their feet. I figured if it was this hard to get them to take my money, how hard would it be for me to actually get help when I needed it with the product. I mean, they do swear up and down that they offer so much support, stand by their product blah blah blah.

SpeedWorksAuto

10-22-2011, 08:19 AM

As soon as I tried to get away from a 4cyl build and had to use other vendors for my build, I have been regretting it almost everyday since. Literally been problems since day one.

THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY VENDOR I HAVING PROBLEMS WITH.

The thing that really bugs me is that have everything at my disposal hardware wide to totally phase them out of my builds, I just dint have the time since I am so slammed at work.

A4DRIVR

10-23-2011, 06:23 AM

I hear ya bother. I had similar problems with them that I specifically mentioned in my build thread. Not only that, but also poor build quality of parts.

Getting them to ship something in a timely manner is like pulling teeth. Not that long ago I went back for more punishment and ended canceling my order.

Either way. I'm sorry to hear your build is suffering from it. Keep us posted... Supplier issues and all.

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SpeedWorksAuto

10-24-2011, 09:08 AM

Took two steps back yesterday. I had to hack apart my crossover where the wastegate tube is and fit in new piping and a flex section. Not extremely satisfied with the results but it should work ok.

Would have been nice to have the smaller flex tube so I could rework the semi finished downpipe instead. But........

Next I'm going to take the stock turbo drain tubes, hack them apart, and weld -10 fitting on one, and block the other off.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-01-2011, 02:38 PM

Single turbo setup finally complete. Now I just need to get the nickel and dime stuff....oil lines, coolant lines, sensors and wiring.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0008.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0007.jpg

I added a s4 power steering rack since its supposed to have a better ratio, and most hot stuff is DEI titanium wrapped. I just need to finish that last section if the downpipe.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-02-2011, 09:14 AM

New compressor wheel for the he351VE and a few others:

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/seepicture.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/asde.jpg

I think once I am up and running I will toss one of these suckers in.

ZimbutheMonkey

11-02-2011, 02:24 PM

OK, do you have any more info on the compressor wheel on the left? I've seen them on the Bullseye Power site but couldn't figure out if they were for real or if it was some kind of April Fool's gag. Assuming they're for real, has anyone ran them back to back vs an equivalent straight edged billet compressor to see if they actually work any better? I've read the technical posts that Bullseye has put up, and they seem like an interesting design. However without any real testing, it's just speculation to me at this point.

Also, mad respect for what you're doing man. Not very many people here that are actually doing their own fabrication work and all. I had a similar scenario this summer with my build. It's a LOT of friggin' work when you're doing all the fabrication. I know the last bits when you're tired, frustrated and worn out can suck, but just push through it. You look like you're going to have a wicked setup man, it'll be worth it all in the end. Looking forward to seeing it done [up]

SpeedWorksAuto

11-02-2011, 03:33 PM

Its called the BatMoWheel.
Dynos are there for back to back. I think I saw that people are seeing arpound 40hp on gas motors, and since these are made for Holset too (diesel) they are seeing like 2 billion ft pound of torque and like 6hp in those applications too...J/K.

I think this is where I am going to be buying mine from:
http://www.cumminsperformanceparts.com/hxorhebaishe.html

Supra guy went from high 792whp to 941whp with one of these wheels.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?629666-Bullseye-Power-Batmowheel/page3

ZimbutheMonkey

11-02-2011, 06:15 PM

OK, but in the Supra thread, it was compared to a non extended tip GT series turbo (GT 42?). I'd really like to see a test against a billet extended tip turbo. i.e. 366 ETT billet w a straight leading edge vs a 366 ETT w the Batmowheel edge.

No harm in getting one I guess, but I have to wonder how much power it adds above and beyond a similar compressor.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-02-2011, 07:26 PM

I don even think BW sells the wheel separate for their turbos. Dude said it comes on the new turbos only IIRC. I kind of recall him telling a few people that in either that thread or somewhere else. The only one I found that was wheel only was for the holsets. In the supra guys thread there was a story about the sucess of the wheel in a diesel app. in post#32

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/asfdasdf.jpg

"Congrats to Aron Nick from Blacks Diesel for winning the Super Stock Quick 16 in Bradenton. After months of dyno testing we decided to switch from our standard billet wheel to the new "BatMoWheel" right there at the track during test and tune. This immediately picked him up a tenth and 2 mph on the very next run. Then we installed our race cover for eliminations which put this truck in the 10's for the first time. All in all this truck picked up 3 tenths in the quarter mile which put him in the finals and ultimately won the race. "

*ADD...I guess, after reading the quote, they might do the wheel seperately.

ZimbutheMonkey

11-03-2011, 04:06 PM

In any case, I'll be stoked to see your setup run, batmowheel or not. If you do get one, take some detailed pics though.

Sigma 3

11-06-2011, 05:20 PM

Way to keep pushin[wrench]!

SpeedWorksAuto

11-06-2011, 09:47 PM

Still at it.

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0052.jpg

bmx_a4

11-06-2011, 09:57 PM

Oh that looks like fun!

SpeedWorksAuto

11-07-2011, 10:53 PM

One more:

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0049.jpg

SpeedWorksAuto

11-20-2011, 09:39 PM

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0092.jpg

http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/SpeedWorksAutoTuning/IMAG0093-2.jpg

Anybody have wiring diagrams for the late b5 1.8 body from ecm connectors, and the s4 ? I been looking for days and only found the s4

SpeedWorksAuto

11-24-2011, 01:13 PM

Ok, Guess thats a no. I have them both from the Bentley. They arent what I am used to looking at. I guess I will start by tracing the wires to see what needs to be changed around and what goes where. Feel free to chime in.

SO, HERE GOES:

SpeedWorksAuto

11-24-2011, 01:15 PM

Starting with the 10 pin black connector = T10M (1.8T) T10M(2.7TT)

some stuff stolen from :http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/425744-The-1.8T-Wiring-Harness-Explained?highlight=wiring+diagram

1. blue: from the voltage regulator (D+/61)/generator to T32a/12 on J218(instrument cluster processor)
2. green/blue: rpm signal from pin 37 on ECU to A45(wire connection RPM signal, in instrument panel wiring harness) to T32/11 on J218(instrument cluster processor)
3. white/grey
4. red (large gauge): power to pin 62 ECM ( splits to 9 and pin 2 on J271 - motronic engine control module power supply relay)
5. brown/yellow: from pin 2 on G2(engine coolant sensor) to sensor ground, shared ground with coolant level sensor
6.
7. blue/yellow: from T32/22 on instrument cluster combination processor to pin 1 on Engine Coolant Level Warning Switch
8. red/blue: power to pin 15 fuel pump relay to pin 65 on ECM
9. blue/brown: from pin 1 engine coolant temperature to T32/22 on instrument cluster combination processor
10. brown/red: from pin T32/28 instrument cluster combination processor to to pin 2 on speedometer vehicle speed sensor (VSS)

1. blue: from the voltage regulator (D+/61)/generator to T32a/12 on J218(instrument cluster processor)
2. green/blue: rpm signal from pin 37 on ECU to A45(wire connection RPM signal, in instrument panel wiring harness) to T32/11 on J218(instrument cluster processor)
3. white/grey: from cluster to oil pressure switchto pin 116 on ECU
4. red: from positive wire 30 to ECU pin 62
5. brown/yellow: pin 4 on engine coolant temp sensor to ground, shared ground with coolant level sensor
6.
7. blue/green(blue/yellow): from T32/22 on instrument cluster combination processor to pin 1 on Engine Coolant Level Warning Switch
8. red/blue: power to pin 15 to fuel pump relay and then to pin 65 on ECU
9. blue/brown: from pin 2 on G2(engine coolant sensor) to T32/8 on J218(instrument cluster combination processor)
10. brown/red: from pin T32/28 instrument cluster combination processor to to pin 2 on speedometer vehicle speed sensor (VSS)

SpeedWorksAuto

11-24-2011, 01:48 PM

10 pin brown connector = T10 (1.8T) T10(2.7TT)

1. green/red
2.
3. white/blue
4. red/black (large gauge): from J433(locking relay for starter(anti theft immobilizer) to 50? at starter
5. black/blue
6.
7.
8. black/red: mini fuse 10a #5 pin 1/15? on G266(oil level thermal sensor)
9. red/grey
10.

- T10, Brown, 10 pin
1. green/red - K-line diag wire into ECU pin 43
2. green/brown - to pin 47 on ECU from instrument cluster combination processor
3. white/blue - vehicle speed signal to pin 54 on ECU
4. red/black (large gauge) - from park/neutral position relay to ignition/starter switch
5. black/blue - to pin 3 on back-up light switch
6.
7.
8. black/red - to pin 1 on oil level thermal sensor
9. red/grey - to pin 3 on oil level thermal sensor
10. yellow - to pin 81 on ECU from ?

SpeedWorksAuto

11-24-2011, 01:48 PM

10 pin orange connector = T10ar (1.8T) T10ar(2.7TT)

1. red/green (large gauge): (red and gray)from pin 6 on J271(motoronic power suppy relay) 20a fuse #29 to A151(to pin 1 on all four injectors - chiltons) to t10ar1 to D23 to pin 121 on ECU
2.
3.
4. black/blue (large gauge): 20a fuse #7 to: pin 6 on cruise control switch, pin 3 on brake vacuum vent switch, pin 2 on clutch vent valve switch, PIN 3 ON J220
5. black/blue (large gauge): from 87f/DTI (green wire) on fuel pump relay to 10a fuse #32 to D95(wire connection injectors in engine comaprtment wiring harness)
6. white/yellow: pin 80 on ECU to t10ar/6 to t6aa/1 to pin 1 on V144(leak down detection pump)
7. yellow/red: pin 25 on ECU to t10ar/7 to t6aa/2 to pin 2 on V144(leak down detection pump)
8.green/yellow (large gauge): from s3/87a on fuel pump relay to 10a fuse #34 to A20(wire connection 15a in wiring panel harness) to t10ar8 to D22(connector over fuse 234)
9.
10.

- T10ar, Orange, 10 pin
1. red/green (large gauge): from 87f/DTI (green wire) on fuel pump relay to 20a fuse #29 to A151 (connector -4- (87), in instrument panel wiring harness) to t10ar/1 to 15 on all 6 coils.
2. red/brown - to pin 48 on ECU from instrument cluster processor
3.red/yellow
4.
5. black/blue (large gauge) - from t32/1(32 pin blue connector on instrument panel processor) to A2(plus connection (15), in instrument panel wiring harness) to 20a fuse #32 to A20(wire connection (15a), in instrument panel wiring harness) to t10ar/5 to pin 1 on all six injectors
6. white/yellow : pin 80 on ECU to t10ar/6 to t6aa/1 to pin 1 on V144(leak down detection pump)
7. yellow/red : pin 25 on ECU to t10ar/7 to t6aa/2 to pin 2 on V144(leak down detection pump)
8. green/yellow (large gauge) - from s3/87a on fuel pump realy to 10a fuse 34 to A152(connector -5- (87), in instrument panel wiring harness) to t10ar/8 to D22(connector over fuse 234)
9. brown/red
10. blue/violet - engine overhead warning light PIN 19 ON ECU

Wires I moved:
pin 1 red/green to pin 5 to power all six coils and correct termial on FPR

SpeedWorksAuto

11-24-2011, 01:49 PM

15 PIN ORANGE/3 PIN RED connector = T15? (1.8T) T15M(2.7TT)

ORANGE
1. green/brown
2.
3. black/grey
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14. orange/brown - connection (low-bus)
15. orange/black - connection (high-bus)

RED
1. blue/red
2. blue/violet
3.

- T15m, Red, 15 pin
1. green/brown - From ABS control module to ECU pin 74
2.
3. black/grey - A/C control head to ECU pin 41
4.
5. black/violet - to pin 30 on ECU from instrment cluster
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14. orange/brown - connection (low-bus)
15. orange/black - connection (high-bus)

RED
1.
2. blue/violet
3.

SpeedWorksAuto

11-24-2011, 01:50 PM

15/3 pin white connector = T15/T3aa (1.8T) T15/T3aa(2.7TT)

1. yellow/blue
2. yellow/lilac
3. brown/red
4. grey/yellow
5. grey
6. brown/green
7. red/grey - PIN 1 ON T6Y
8. blue - PIN 2 ON T6Y
9. red/yellow - PIN 3 ON T6Y
10. black/white - PIN 6 ON T6Y
11. red/black - PIN 2 BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH
12. white/red - PIN 4 BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH
13. red/green
14.
15.

T3aa
1.
2. red (large gauge)
3. red/grey (large gauge)

- T15, White, 15 pin
1. yellow/blue - to pin 1 (4 on 2001) on throttle body
2. yellow/lilac - to pin 2 on throttle body
3. brown/red - to pin 3 on throttle body
4. green(grey)/yellow - to pin 4 (5 on 2001) on throttle body
5. green(grey) - to pin 5 (1 on 2001) on throttle body
6. brown/green - to pin 6 on throttle body
7. red/grey - to pin 1 on connector T6y
8. blue - to pin 2 on connector T6y
9. red/yellow - to pin 3 on connector T6y
10. black/white - to pin 6 on connector T6y
11. red/black - to pin 2 on brake light switch
12. white/red - to pin 4 on brake light switch
13. red/green - to pin 1 on clutch vacuum vent valve switch
14.
15.

T3aa
1.
2.
3. red (large gauge)