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DOBERMAN@UA
09-20-2008, 04:33 AM
I've got conversation with local dealer, they propose me to install Garret RS turbo with custom made(full race manifold), FMIC(I gues AWE, but it depends), injectors and fuel pump.
The RS have chosen(2871 much slower on low rpms) because it smaller and has more hp and tg on low rpm.
The limit of RS is obout 360 hp, my dealer sad that if I'm not going to low engine resource a lot I shouldn’t make more than 320 hp on stock internals. RS is ball bearing turbine which has very good reaction on low rpms. Any ideas?[wrench]

agorich
09-21-2008, 11:00 AM
bump for information?

rudtf
09-21-2008, 11:02 AM
it's prob the same awe kit that another thread is about. unless he really means diller and it runs on pickle juice

UrKurt
09-21-2008, 01:25 PM
Typical RS turbo upgrades (like VF engineering's (http://www.vf-engineering.com/index.php?v=/kit_audi_a4.php)) require built internals (you'll need stronger rods) for higher power levels, so this sounds right.

Doctor
09-21-2008, 01:34 PM
Here in Greece, multiple TFSIs, such as GTIs, S3s run over 360hp with stock internals, for a very long time...So I dont think its a problem up to 400hp...
What im saying is not something new though...

acidrome
09-21-2008, 01:42 PM
Typical RS turbo upgrades (like VF engineering's (http://www.vf-engineering.com/index.php?v=/kit_audi_a4.php)) require built internals (you'll need stronger rods) for higher power levels, so this sounds right.

The RSS turbo upgrade from VF Engineering does not require built internals and will achieve 320~350whp. Only the RSR will require built internals and will give atleast 400whp.

I dont know if you guys saw this it was in the TT forum, This was an event in Greece from one of VF Engineerings new vendors


Our new distributor from Athens Greece RAS has sent us these pictures from the Athens Tuning Show. I thought you TT owners would be interested?

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/Delius-VF/DSC09022.jpg

Nice display of our RSS kit
For more details please visit our web site:
http://vf-engineering.com/images/choosebrand-turbo.gif
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/Delius-VF/DSC09049.jpg

The cars and candy.

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/Delius-VF/DSC09024.jpg

The ever demonic grin of the TT!

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/Delius-VF/DSC09055.jpg

Our kit also fits the SEAT Cupra. Note the Greek flag on the engine cover.

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd358/Delius-VF/DSC09046.jpg

[race] Thanks for the pics RAS[drive]

UrKurt
09-21-2008, 02:12 PM
Sorry for the confusion, I realize I wasn't very clear. When I said "higher power levels" I mean within VF's range of kits, i.e., the RSR.

Doctor
09-21-2008, 02:22 PM
Yeap they are from Greece...Actually i know one of the guys in the photos above...LoL

DOBERMAN@UA
09-21-2008, 11:35 PM
Typical RS turbo upgrades (like VF engineering's (http://www.vf-engineering.com/index.php?v=/kit_audi_a4.php)) require built internals (you'll need stronger rods) for higher power levels, so this sounds right.

IT IS not RS turbo kit from VF(I'm not against that fellows, but my car is on the other continent...).


The RSS turbo upgrade from VF Engineering does not require built internals and will achieve 320~350whp. Only the RSR will require built internals and will give atleast 400whp.

I dont know if you guys saw this it was in the TT forum, This was an event in Greece from one of VF Engineerings new vendors


400 hp is possible on stock internals! But for how long? It would be a time bomb!
This kit is build on Garret RS turbo VF BT kit is build on 2871R which has more potential than RS turbo, but it has slower response because of larger turbo wheels. I need Very smooth power in car from low rpms, and not to have the beast at 5000 rpms
320-350 hp is much more than stock and this would be enough not to hurt internals

Slo.Mo.Shun.
09-22-2008, 06:29 AM
S3s kind a have a thing called FORGED INTERNALS.

Ps, Stock rods can gold up to 400 HP

DOBERMAN@UA
09-22-2008, 06:55 AM
S3s kind a have a thing called FORGED INTERNALS.

Ps, Stock rods can gold up to 400 HP

If rods could gold up to 400, this amount of ponies will find weak place in engine, to take the way out. It's like when you ride on a time bomb
With forged internals it is possible to have 600,
but you have to rebuild your engine significantly, I'm not talking about sum of money required

Slo.Mo.Shun.
09-22-2008, 07:14 AM
It's like when you ride on a time bomb

Exiting, inst it ?

I would have a high boost and low boost tune, High boost as close as I can get it to 385 and low 360 ( BHP ). Maybe I would throw in race to get that extra few ponies. ( wouldn't go anything smaller than a GT30 )

Remember this BTs dont produce that much TQ

DOBERMAN@UA
09-22-2008, 07:21 AM
Exiting, inst it ?

I would have a high boost and low boost tune, High boost as close as I can get it to 385 and low 360 ( BHP ). Maybe I would trow in race to get that extra few ponies.

Remember this BTs dont produce that much TQ

What turbo do you have?

Slo.Mo.Shun.
09-22-2008, 07:23 AM
Almost forgot to say, many 1.8T guys do what I just said on GT 28s and 30s, most motors last for a couple of years, but when they go, they go.

Last one I saw had one of the rods snap and make a hole the size of my fist on the block, plus the piston welded itself on the cylinder wall, and the rod produced other less pronounced craters.

K03S, and an unhealthy amount of nitrous.

DOBERMAN@UA
09-22-2008, 08:27 AM
Almost forgot to say, many 1.8T guys do what I just said on GT 28s and 30s, most motors last for a couple of years, but when they go, they go.

Last one I saw had one of the rods snap and make a hole the size of my fist on the block, plus the piston welded itself on the cylinder wall, and the rod produced other less pronounced craters.

K03S, and an unhealthy amount of nitrous.

That's what I'm talking about, I don't wanna to buy new engine in one year.
For more power you should pay more atentions to internals

Slo.Mo.Shun.
09-22-2008, 09:11 AM
By all means, do internals, because once you get a taste of the new power you are going to want more, and catastrophic failure is not nice.

DOBERMAN@UA
09-22-2008, 09:46 AM
By all means, do internals, because once you get a taste of the new power you are going to want more, and catastrophic failure is not nice.

On stock internals I'm going to have 320 hp. What do you think is it critical for engine[wrench]?[wrench]

Slo.Mo.Shun.
09-22-2008, 09:53 AM
That is fine, just make sure you have your fueling right.

DOBERMAN@UA
09-22-2008, 10:01 AM
That is fine, just make sure you have your fueling right.

APR fuel pump and s3 injectors[drive]

Slo.Mo.Shun.
09-22-2008, 10:03 AM
Great, good luck [up]

Just double check on the injectors, I think there are BT specific Injectors.

DOBERMAN@UA
09-23-2008, 03:14 AM
Talking about garret RS, is it really so good as I was told?

AAAA
09-23-2008, 06:55 AM
the 28rs is good for small power, and decent low end torque. if you're looking for 320chp then a 28rs is fine for you. and no, you don't need to do rods for that power. the rods in these engines are stronger than 1.8ts

DOBERMAN@UA
09-23-2008, 10:33 AM
the 28rs is good for small power, and decent low end torque. if you're looking for 320chp then a 28rs is fine for you. and no, you don't need to do rods for that power. the rods in these engines are stronger than 1.8ts

What is the critical amount of hp for engine?

Slo.Mo.Shun.
09-23-2008, 11:58 AM
400 bhp

DOBERMAN@UA
09-23-2008, 09:54 PM
400 bhp

Maibe I could consider about 350 or it mo risonable to stay with 320?