Teaser...35r and SPA manifold [Archive]

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 11:33 AM

SPA manifold (http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?products_id=17887). I would say it is good for any t3 turbo up to matye a GT35R. Anything past that, and one should be looking into full tubular manifolds.

Well only thing past a 35r with a T3 flange would be a T3/67(aka 37r), at this point no one makes a T4 flange manifold but I am working on that.

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 11:36 AM

Mike -- You don't need a t4 to go faster....

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 11:51 AM

Mike -- You don't need a t4 to go faster....

Most of the turbos I am looking at are T4 hot side. There aren't any T3 flanged turbos worth trying out on my car.

Beemer832

09-19-2008, 11:51 AM

no he needs NOS... sorry we are hi-jacking jakes thread..

Jake: I tried VagCom again last night and still nothing. Gonna do some more research and see what I can come up with.

-josh

317ssayzarc

09-19-2008, 12:00 PM

H20?

nope, standalone pawns me till two weeks from now

[>_<] Tonight or Tomorrow Jake. I want to hug it [:p]

tonite [;)]

no he needs NOS... sorry we are hi-jacking jakes thread..

Jake: I tried VagCom again last night and still nothing. Gonna do some more research and see what I can come up with.

-josh

i dont give a fuck lol, i do it all the time

let me know where you get with the vagcom, i really want mine to work [headbang]

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 12:38 PM

regarding the vag-com maybe you guys pulled down an updated over the past few months that causing a conflict with the driver software..

Just a thought.

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 12:40 PM

Most of the turbos I am looking at are T4 hot side. There aren't any T3 flanged turbos worth trying out on my car.

Run 40 psi on the gt35r...............................[drive]

Das General

09-19-2008, 12:45 PM

I would think 40psi is probably out of its efficiency range.

Militant-Grunt

09-19-2008, 01:07 PM

What made you go with that manifold over a full race?

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 01:10 PM

What made you go with that manifold over a full race?

He was in a hurry to get a manifold, he wanted to buy the full setup off my car but I wasn't ready to sell and there were no FR manifolds in stock at the time. From now on I will have 1-2 FR manifolds in stock at all times.

Run 40 psi on the gt35r...............................[drive]

LOL, that is way out of its map. The highest the GT35r can run within its map is 34psi on our cars, but the sweet spot is 32psi which is why nearly every person running a 35r is doing so at 32psi. Who do you know that is running 40psi on a GT35r?

http://img88.exs.cx/img88/636/GT35RPR2-2.jpg

At sea level
32psi = 3.17 PR
40psi = 3.72 PR

If your going to suggest running it at 40psi make sure you actually know what your talking about first.

maxspeed

09-19-2008, 01:29 PM

TTITWWOP!!!!

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 01:30 PM

40 was a little bit of an exaggeration, but definietly higher than 32......

Didn't 034 run 40 psi (ON A MUCH BIGGER MOTOR) @ that event last year?

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 01:40 PM

After making 635 HP w/ Meth at 34psi
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=366080 (http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=366080)

I wanted to see what C-16 and 38 PSI can do on The Shops Dyno.. [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j170/freddy302/700awhp.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j170/freddy302/700hp2-1.jpg

38 psi...

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 01:45 PM

I have seen several gt35r and gt35r variants run boost approaching 40 psi.. So what the heck are you talking about? It might not be "efficient", but they still get some more power out of it.

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 01:48 PM

40 was a little bit of an exaggeration, but definietly higher than 32......

Didn't 034 run 40 psi (ON A MUCH BIGGER MOTOR) @ that event last year?

I thought they did but I seem to get 2 different stories from 2 different sources. One person says that it had a much larger turbo on the car pushing 40psi, another one said they saw a 35r under the hood while it was on the dyno for that event. So your guess is as good as mine.

Here is a picture of their car on the dyno at that event, let me know if you can figure out if that is a 35r or not.

http://www.034motorsport.com/articles/2007/eurotunergp/48-49/big/01.jpg

More boost doesn't exactly mean more air flow if it means going from 74% effiency to 60-65%. Just like a K03 or K04 when pushed out of its map, you end up making more tq but really no agains in peak hp. That big jump in effiency on the 35r is going to have a huge effect on the IAT's.

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 01:50 PM

All I am saying is a LIGHT, FULLY BUILT RACE CAR like yours should be able to trap 140 MPH, with that turbo fully maxed out.

P.S. Are you running raceware head studs?

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 01:52 PM

I have seen several gt35r and gt35r variants run boost approaching 40 psi.. So what the heck are you talking about? It might not be "efficient", but they still get some more power out of it.

LOL, that is not a real GT35r. The HTA turbo uses the BW extended tip wheel, it can run up 44psi and still be in its flow map. Lets try sticking to a "real" Garrett GT35r which is what I have in my car. The funny thing is that at 32psi or less the HTA nearly exactly the same peak whp, not till both turbos are pushed to 40+psi(way out of the real GT35r map) do they see a gain while using that $1700 HTA 35r. My friend even runs a HTA 35r on his EVO and it puts down 480whp at 23psi on 100 octane and thats on a 2.3 liter not a 2.0.

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 01:55 PM

LOL, that is not a real GT35r. The HTA turbo uses the BW extended tip wheel and it can run up to 44psi. Lets try sticking to a "real" Garrett GT35r which is what I have in my car.

I can't remember or find @ exactly what boost this dyno was, but IIRC it was somewhere between 34-37 psi.

1.8t motor to boot..

http://www.qedpower.com/qedDataII_files/image007.jpg

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 02:07 PM

I can't remember or find @ exactly what boost this dyno was, but IIRC it was somewhere between 34-37 psi.

1.8t motor to boot..

Pretty sure he said 2.2-2.3 bar which is 32-34psi. That setup never even made it into a car. We already know my car is making more power then that.

Nearly every Evo owner that I know of running a real GT35r is pushing 32psi. There was one from a shop in norcal that was running in the BOTI event and he was running nearly exactly the same ET I run.

317ssayzarc

09-19-2008, 02:27 PM

I can't remember or find @ exactly what boost this dyno was, but IIRC it was somewhere between 34-37 psi.

1.8t motor to boot..

Thats Bob Q's superflow engine dyno, he was testing all kinds of products on that motor, hence its nickname the "dyno mule"...

Heres a pic, Im going to go bolt it on http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0919081225.jpg

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 02:28 PM

They even gave you a set of nuts and bolts, how sweet...

No anti-surge cover???

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 05:05 PM

They even gave you a set of nuts and bolts, how sweet...

No anti-surge cover???

Dont need a anti-surge cover when running high boost, only when running very low boost.

dougyfresh

09-19-2008, 05:42 PM

the problem with vag-com is Vista [down]

35R on an SPS manifold is not ballin'.

35R on a Full Race tubular manifold is ballin' [:)]

Looking good Jake! Do I have to come over there and figure out Vag-Com for you?

Poopie

09-19-2008, 05:48 PM

take off the passenger side engine mount to get the bottom manifold nuts...just a heads up.

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 05:58 PM

Dont need a anti-surge cover when running high boost, only when running very low boost.

Its the other way around. You are referring to boost creep with a small waste gate.

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 06:04 PM

Its the other way around. You are referring to boost creep with a small waste gate.

I know the difference, surging will cause an unstable boost reading while boost creep just keeps going up with the rpm. I have never had a surging issue running 25+psi.

Don Supreme

09-19-2008, 06:06 PM

I know the difference. I have never had a surging issue running 25+psi.

I surged and I know a couple that have had the same issue once they cross the 20 psi line.

317ssayzarc

09-19-2008, 06:09 PM

317ssayzarc

09-19-2008, 06:11 PM

take off the passenger side engine mount to get the bottom manifold nuts...just a heads up.

you cant be serious...

djwimbo

09-19-2008, 06:13 PM

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0919081225.jpg

Sharing is caring, now where's mine?

That looks like a big step in the right direction, and looks B/A if you ask me.

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 06:22 PM

you cant be serious...

What were you expecting with a cast top mount manifold? There is just more material on the manifold which gets in the way.

BTW when you get a chance put it on a scale.

djwimbo

09-19-2008, 06:27 PM

BTW when you get a chance put it on a scale.

What was the shipping weight on that assembly? 50+lbs?

Poopie

09-19-2008, 06:35 PM

you cant be serious...

i am serious. its not as straightforward as you think. on the middle bottom runners, be sure to install the shorter studs cause the stock ones will hit. last time i installed this manifold it was with the rad support off and it was easy to reach in and get to all the nuts, but i had to take off the engine mount and reinstall it after tightening it all down.

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 06:36 PM

What was the shipping weight on that assembly? 50+lbs?

Thats what I would like to know. Well I would like to know the weight of the manifold itself and he is going to need to remove the turbo from the manifold to install it.

317ssayzarc

09-19-2008, 08:13 PM

eh im tired/somewhere else, ill anser questions tommorrow, heres two more pics:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0919082101.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0919082149.jpg

Das General

09-19-2008, 08:16 PM

You got it in already? You work fast.

quattro16

09-19-2008, 08:16 PM

NICE NICE. Working on getting a spa manifold now. Who else sells them besides 034?

Nebone

09-19-2008, 08:16 PM

Looks much better than before man.

Vag-Com keeps crashing in Vista still? Doug, did you make your version work in Vista?

B518T

09-19-2008, 08:33 PM

Militant-Grunt

09-19-2008, 08:52 PM

Eh... I have concerns about that cast iron lasting the course. Though you can say the same about welds on a tubular manifold. Regardless I will definitely be going with a race manifold. Mike did you have any problems with leaks on yours?

How fun was that install Jake?

t1demont1

09-19-2008, 10:47 PM

sick shit man

bernB5

09-19-2008, 11:22 PM

looking good dude. car is running MINT on tapp right now, wish you had the same luck.
getting onto the service road tonight, 60 degree right turn, full throttle, ridiculously sideways with 23psi haha.
new vids tomorrow. can't wait til yours is up and running properly again

mike-2ptzero

09-19-2008, 11:44 PM

NICE NICE. Working on getting a spa manifold now. Who else sells them besides 034?

Who do you think.

[>_<]
Eh... I have concerns about that cast iron lasting the course. Though you can say the same about welds on a tubular manifold. Regardless I will definitely be going with a race manifold. Mike did you have any problems with leaks on yours?

No and mine was welded up by hand, Full-race has been using a robot welder on their manifolds for some time now.

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 05:12 AM

NIce!....if I had a turbo that big I would prolly make a brace for it!

i like the oil cooler on top of the front mount, but how is the front mount mounted to the car? would definitely like to see some more front end pictures....

i am assuming that you have rods, but are you still a 1.8?

You can see the passenger side bracket, look for the top of it near the headlight...

I have much much more than rods, and Im 2008cc

How fun was that install Jake?

Not so bad, the first times the worst...

looking good dude. car is running MINT on tapp right now, wish you had the same luck.
getting onto the service road tonight, 60 degree right turn, full throttle, ridiculously sideways with 23psi haha.
new vids tomorrow. can't wait til yours is up and running properly again

[cool] yay!

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 05:15 AM

You got it in already? You work fast.

not really... I got there at 7 and left at 10, and I spent 2 hours at harbor freight getting shit for the new shop..

NICE NICE. Working on getting a spa manifold now. Who else sells them besides 034?

send me or Issam a pm [;)]

Seerlah

09-20-2008, 06:12 AM

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 06:34 AM

That is a sweet set up [up]. Just as the next, everyone wants to see some vids after it is put together. Not a 45 second vid either. Something people can watch while eating thier pop corn with thier oohs and ahhs.

how about some lapping vids around limerock park? [:D]

once the standlone is done I plan on driving it as much as possible until the salt/sand goes down

onemoremile

09-20-2008, 07:26 AM

Eh... I have concerns about that cast iron lasting the course. Though you can say the same about welds on a tubular manifold.

Think about the way a big monoblock lump of cast iron expands uniformly versus welded together cast stainless tubes with individual runners. One expands up a little, another down a little, the flange and collector do a lot to keep things together. The tubular goes through hell compared to the stresses a cast lump sees. The cast mani has strength to spare.

A very good tubular manifold can last a good long time. Mike's is a perfect example of this. It may or may not have lasted through a road course season though. Drags and dynos are short hot bursts and relatively kind on the manifold. Keep those temps up for 20-30 minutes and the weight of that turbo starts becoming a real influence.

Seerlah

09-20-2008, 07:56 AM

how about some lapping vids around limerock park? [:D]

once the standlone is done I plan on driving it as much as possible until the salt/sand goes down

I really want to see 1st, 2nd, into 3rd gear WOT pulls. And if you are going to do this on a track, the 4th gear might be rather insane. And a couple of drag vids.

And not to advocate illegal activity, but maybe do a WOT pull on the street so another (meaning me) can get catch a nice gander of how it compares on the streets. Of course you don't have to, as the chances of getting viewed by an authority figure while in action is not slim.

When you think you will have this up and running? And you are going standalone, correct? Full specs on the build is a must.

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 07:59 AM

I really want to see 1st, 2nd, into 3rd gear WOT pulls. And if you are going to do this on a track, the 4th gear might be rather insane. And a couple of drag vids.

And not to advocate illegal activity, but maybe do a WOT pull on the street so another (meaning me) can get catch a nice gander of how it compares on the streets. Of course you don't have to, as the chances of getting viewed by an authority figure while in action is not slim.

When you think you will have this up and running? And you are going standalone, correct? Full specs on the build is a must.

We shall see about the videos...

It'll take me a while to post full spec, Ill do it later when Im not busy... I have a job to do a my shop so Im outta here, but Ill do up a list later [up]

mike-2ptzero

09-20-2008, 08:05 AM

Think about the way a big monoblock lump of cast iron expands uniformly versus welded together cast stainless tubes with individual runners. One expands up a little, another down a little, the flange and collector do a lot to keep things together. The tubular goes through hell compared to the stresses a cast lump sees. The cast mani has strength to spare.

A very good tubular manifold can last a good long time. Mike's is a perfect example of this. It may or may not have lasted through a road course season though. Drags and dynos are short hot bursts and relatively kind on the manifold. Keep those temps up for 20-30 minutes and the weight of that turbo starts becoming a real influence.

There are plenty of Full-race manifolds being used for road racing, drifting and other racing that puts the car on the track for a long period of time. It isn't like Full-races customers are just drag racers.

BTW my car has been on a road course twice, the first time was in 15-25 minute sessions going all day long and I had no issues with the manifold other then losing bolts the second track day for the 1.8t challenge but that was because the bolts I was using at the time couldn't cut it which is why I ended up going with ARP bolts.

Nebone

09-20-2008, 01:04 PM

I really want to see 1st, 2nd, into 3rd gear WOT pulls. And if you are going to do this on a track, the 4th gear might be rather insane. And a couple of drag vids.

And not to advocate illegal activity, but maybe do a WOT pull on the street so another (meaning me) can get catch a nice gander of how it compares on the streets. Of course you don't have to, as the chances of getting viewed by an authority figure while in action is not slim.

When you think you will have this up and running? And you are going standalone, correct? Full specs on the build is a must.

Just watch Mikes videos. Jake will be pushing similar power.

I'll take some pics of this for Jake tonight.

t1demont1

09-20-2008, 01:49 PM

Is jake still going with lugtronic? Im very interested to see how the results turn out with this software.

mike-2ptzero

09-20-2008, 02:24 PM

Is jake still going with lugtronic? Im very interested to see how the results turn out with this software.

Hard to say since Jake changes his mind every second, so we wont really know till the car is actually running and tuned.

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 02:46 PM

Thats not true Mr Hood [:p]

I payed for the VEMS ecu last week

t1demont1

09-20-2008, 02:51 PM

never herd of VEMS. What made you choose this over all the standalone companies out there?

AudiA4_20T

09-20-2008, 04:49 PM

never herd of VEMS. What made you choose this over all the standalone companies out there?

its cheap, open source, works with all our factory sensors, has Can-Bus built in, and hes already DBC

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 04:53 PM

VEMS = lugtronics ecu, just without the fancy wrapping... I am getting the full lugtronic, but have only paid for the ecu since thats all I was asked to pay for a down payment for now

t1demont1

09-20-2008, 06:13 PM

oh alright. Cant wait to see how your setup comes out.

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 07:15 PM

oh alright. Cant wait to see how your setup comes out.

you and me both brotha

Das General

09-20-2008, 07:17 PM

What is the next step in the setup..

317ssayzarc

09-20-2008, 08:29 PM

Well the manifold is on finally... Sebastian came by and took some pics of how its done, Im sure he'll post up... Basically ground some off the mani then cut the stud really short, no motor mount removal thank god lol... Guess the next step is to build the lines (here Monday) and the downpipe/wastegate dump (here Monday)...

Nebone

09-21-2008, 01:11 AM

I sobered out and drove home at 3am. The manifold is bolted up and nothing had to be removed. I'll need a +1 rep for fishing out all your dropped nuts and wrenching for ya when your arm gave out ha.

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0791.jpg?t=1221984493
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0824.jpg?t=1221983695
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0802.jpg?t=1221983872
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0812.jpg?t=1221983903
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0806.jpg?t=1221984625
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0820.jpg?t=1221983928
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0790.jpg?t=1221984033
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0804.jpg?t=1221984131
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee329/dubaudiri/DSC_0788.jpg?t=1221984278

t1demont1

09-21-2008, 01:33 AM

good shit

Wizard-of-OD

09-21-2008, 01:36 AM

That one nut is the only bitch eh?

t1demont1

09-21-2008, 01:39 AM

yeah theres two or so that make installing the manifold fun.

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 07:42 AM

That one nut is the only bitch eh?

Well I came from an APR manifold so not much bothers me, but that one in the middle was a bitch... I did the following things to install the mani: 1) ground out the manifold a bit around that middle bottom nut 2) severely shortened the middle bottom stud 3) lightly ground the two neighboring studs because they were almost hitting the manifold itself and I couldnt get a feeler gauge in there to check so I would rather be safe than sorry, I only took like 3-4 threads off of those two studs...

The reason the middle one is such a bitch is because the manifold slopes down and then up, and it slopes down with the contour of the motor mount... There is no way to tighten it without taking off the motor mount, unless you chop that stud, which I obviously did from the pics lol... I have a shit load of tools and nothing I had worked, but then again I forgot my Snap On 1/4 drive universal sockets [headbang]... Regardless, the manifold is on and tight now!

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 07:47 AM

quattro16

09-21-2008, 08:29 AM

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 08:42 AM

Jake just curious on what happened to the other setup? Did you get it up and running good or just dumped it for this new project? Also does the ER intercooler piping matching up with the new turbo position?

Well I decided I didnt want to deal with an off the shelf tune, and I didnt want to drive to Canada to get a custom tune... So I decide to go standalone, and since I was starting from scratch I figured Id go larger... AWD dyno time is alotta money so I'd rather ante up for the 35R now than pay for another tune later... Hopefully Ill be picking my car up in three weeks, and it should still have some C16 in it when I pick it up [evilsmile]

Im going to have to use some 2" tubing and a coupler to extend my FMIC piping, it does not match up

Nebone

09-21-2008, 09:10 AM

This is the next step (found it in a different thread)

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/issamabed/SPAdownpipe.jpg

mike-2ptzero

09-21-2008, 09:20 AM

Well I decided I didnt want to deal with an off the shelf tune, and I didnt want to drive to Canada to get a custom tune... So I decide to go standalone, and since I was starting from scratch I figured Id go larger... AWD dyno time is alotta money so I'd rather ante up for the 35R now than pay for another tune later... Hopefully Ill be picking my car up in three weeks, and it should still have some C16 in it when I pick it up [evilsmile]

Im going to have to use some 2" tubing and a coupler to extend my FMIC piping, it does not match up

You will want to use 2.5" tube for the hot side since the GT35r compressor outlet is 2.5", but this means you will have a 2.5" to 2" reducer at the fmic inlet. Bad thing is that your ER Comp is rated for 600hp so its going to heat up quickly when you are trying to make 500whp, good thing is that ER offers a "race series" 800hp fmic for me that is basicly a 100% copy of the FMIC I have been running for some time.

Poopie

09-21-2008, 09:29 AM

Well I came from an APR manifold so not much bothers me, but that one in the middle was a bitch... I did the following things to install the mani: 1) ground out the manifold a bit around that middle bottom nut 2) severely shortened the middle bottom stud 3) lightly ground the two neighboring studs because they were almost hitting the manifold itself and I couldnt get a feeler gauge in there to check so I would rather be safe than sorry, I only took like 3-4 threads off of those two studs...

The reason the middle one is such a bitch is because the manifold slopes down and then up, and it slopes down with the contour of the motor mount... There is no way to tighten it without taking off the motor mount, unless you chop that stud, which I obviously did from the pics lol... I have a shit load of tools and nothing I had worked, but then again I forgot my Snap On 1/4 drive universal sockets [headbang]... Regardless, the manifold is on and tight now!

damn....must be your skinny arms that could reach down and behind the manifold.

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 09:44 AM

damn....must be your skinny arms that could reach down and behind the manifold.

Used a screw driver to guide the nut down onto the stud, then used a finger to spin it to thread it on, then I could use a wrench from there... Wouldnt have been possible w/o shortening the stud alot and grinding away at the manifold there

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 09:45 AM

You will want to use 2.5" tube for the hot side since the GT35r compressor outlet is 2.5", but this means you will have a 2.5" to 2" reducer at the fmic inlet. Bad thing is that your ER Comp is rated for 600hp so its going to heat up quickly when you are trying to make 500whp, good thing is that ER offers a "race series" 800hp fmic for me that is basicly a 100% copy of the FMIC I have been running for some time.

Damn you, how much with a trade in? [:D]

djwimbo

09-21-2008, 09:48 AM

Wouldnt have been possible w/o shortening the stud alot and grinding away at the manifold there

What about the mount? Couldn't you just remove some from it?

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 09:58 AM

Thought about it but decided I was too lazy to bring the chain and picker 20ft to the front of the car... When I take it off this winter to get it ceramic coated, since the car doesnt go out after salt/sand goes down, maybe Ill do that and put it a longer stud...

t1demont1

09-21-2008, 10:01 AM

This is the next step (found it in a different thread)

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd25/issamabed/SPAdownpipe.jpg

I guess it makes sense that something so gorgeous would come from the likes of issam

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 10:12 AM

I would so buy it if:

A: I had more money lol
B: I didnt already have a 38mm Tial (I dig the purple Issam [up])
C: If I wasnt so juvenile and wanted a recirc wastegate (I may get sick of it)

t1demont1

09-21-2008, 10:17 AM

exactly, all us young guns dig the dump

bassed

09-21-2008, 11:50 AM

I guess it makes sense that something so gorgeous would come from the likes of issam

Meh open dump FTW.

t1demont1

09-21-2008, 01:02 PM

Meh open dump FTW.

I agree if that downpipe didnt have a recirc on it, then it would be 100% awesome. But im saying the quality of work looks amazing on it.

AudiA4_20T

09-21-2008, 01:33 PM

open dump ftw

Das General

09-21-2008, 01:46 PM

open dumps... awesome-o

A4 TSCHUSS

09-21-2008, 02:02 PM

I hate my open dump, I am rerouting it.

mike-2ptzero

09-21-2008, 02:03 PM

I agree if that downpipe didnt have a recirc on it, then it would be 100% awesome. But im saying the quality of work looks amazing on it.

No matter how hard you try a recirc will always turn into a open dump.

I hate my open dump, I am rerouting it.

You might want to wait till your running more boost, unless you plan on running very low boost at WOT all the time.

Poopie

09-21-2008, 02:12 PM

taking dumps ftw

A4 TSCHUSS

09-21-2008, 02:20 PM

You might want to wait till your running more boost, unless you plan on running very low boost at WOT all the time.

What does that mean? I ran it at 20psi before though. Will most likely run around 24-25psi when it's back together though.

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 02:20 PM

taking dumps ftw

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/sardonic.gif

Das General

09-21-2008, 02:23 PM

I hate my open dump, I am rerouting it.

What don't you like about it?

A4 TSCHUSS

09-21-2008, 02:25 PM

I hate the loud exhaust leak like sound which in reality it is when it is open. I think it sounds like shit. I just want to hear my exhaust not a rediculous screaming from the front of the car.

mike-2ptzero

09-21-2008, 02:33 PM

Damn you, how much with a trade in? [:D]

The race series FMIC is only $100 more vs the basic Comp. I am sure you could sell your Comp for very close to what you paid for it and then order the larger ER.

What does that mean? I ran it at 20psi before though. Will most likely run around 24-25psi when it's back together though.

The more boost you run the less exhaust gas is flowing out of the WG, the WG is also going to open later when running more boost.

But just to give you a heads up, the welds on a WG return back into the down pipe will never last very long. I had mine done by Full-race and it didn't last since the metal is thin, the temps are different in both pipes, they expand at different rates and in 2 different directions. Since then Full-race will not do any wg returns into a down pipe for customers.

Wizard-of-OD

09-21-2008, 02:37 PM

Meh open dump FTW.
If you want your Audi to sound like ass...[;)]

This is my PERSONAL OPINION.Please do not flame me for it.

onemoremile

09-21-2008, 02:40 PM

I'm with Issam on this one. Recirculated dumps are the elegant solution.

onemoremile

09-21-2008, 02:43 PM

There are plenty of Full-race manifolds being used for road racing, drifting and other racing that puts the car on the track for a long period of time. It isn't like Full-races customers are just drag racers.

BTW my car has been on a road course twice, the first time was in 15-25 minute sessions going all day long and I had no issues with the manifold other then losing bolts the second track day for the 1.8t challenge but that was because the bolts I was using at the time couldn't cut it which is why I ended up going with ARP bolts.

Didn't say yours would fall apart just that road course usage puts it through more stress.

Poopie

09-21-2008, 02:52 PM

i just like the novelty of the open dump. it scares people. same thing with the hks ssqv BOV i'm gonna run. its all in good fun.

Das General

09-21-2008, 02:57 PM

HKS SSQV...ut oh

pipe7284

09-21-2008, 03:07 PM

looking good Jake. hopefully you`ll be running before me since my damn ECU is taking too long!!!!!!

djwimbo

09-21-2008, 03:38 PM

i just like the novelty of the open dump. it scares people.

I'd rather scare people by throwing 3' flames out the tail pipe when they get passed.

Same deal with ATM BOV's. They sound cool, but I don't want to hear it ALL the time.

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 03:51 PM

I'd rather scare people by throwing 3' flames out the tail pipe when they get passed.

Same deal with ATM BOV's. They sound cool, but I don't want to hear it ALL the time.

Idk man, I built my buddies 20th motor a few weeks ago and it was crazy... A t61 with a 44mm gate running off the spring, it was LOUD... We went thru the ghetto in West Warwick where we did it, we scared the SHIT outta some people, we cold evoke screams outta anyone on demand, even the drug dealing looking kind [>_<]

AudiA4_20T

09-21-2008, 03:53 PM

I love the sound when that shit opens up

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 03:56 PM

Yea Im uploading a quick 1st 2nd gear burnout that Eric did after it warmed up to full temp on mile 1 lol

317ssayzarc

09-21-2008, 03:57 PM

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/th_P1050232.jpg (http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/?action=view&current=P1050232.flv)

Nebone

09-21-2008, 04:48 PM

I seen Bassed video on that back road and it sounded tits.

Poopie

09-21-2008, 04:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8JtWp1LFeA&feature=related

rrrooooooooaoaaaarrrrrrr

317ssayzarc

09-22-2008, 06:59 PM

This picture was growing on me and I now declare it officially fucking sick:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSC_0790.jpg

And yup its my new background, thanks Sebastian [up]

A4Rob

09-22-2008, 07:28 PM

you got a spa mani? nice

317ssayzarc

09-22-2008, 07:35 PM

you got a spa mani? nice

Yea for now... Id like to go tubular but cannot wait/afford it now... I just want to get the standalone tuned as is and then Ill work on the next phase and then some more tuning... Next step is a SEM intake manifold, tubular exhaust manifold/downpipe to match, new fmic core and 2.5" piping, retune

A4Rob

09-22-2008, 07:39 PM

Nice Jake. Can't wait to see the end product. Open dump FTW, its a BT, let it yell

317ssayzarc

09-22-2008, 07:49 PM

Nice Jake. Can't wait to see the end product. Open dump FTW, its a BT, let it yell

For sure, plus I plan on running high boost all the time so itll open real late and be pretty mild... Get your car running good?

A4Rob

09-22-2008, 07:54 PM

For sure, plus I plan on running high boost all the time so itll open real late and be pretty mild... Get your car running good?
Not yet. Idol is still off, and i'm still running super rich. Just put the 034 FMIC on and it at least helped fix the boost leak. I need to log my car really bad to see exactly what is happening. I bought new bosch tri electrode plugs to fix my fouled out plugs. Any ideas?

Euro-Tuner

09-22-2008, 07:58 PM

I hate my open dump, I am rerouting it.

I second that

317ssayzarc

09-22-2008, 08:03 PM

Not yet. Idol is still off, and i'm still running super rich. Just put the 034 FMIC on and it at least helped fix the boost leak. I need to log my car really bad to see exactly what is happening. I bought new bosch tri electrode plugs to fix my fouled out plugs. Any ideas?

My car always idled great at a steady 1k rpm, which is the typical Tapp idle... Sure you have NO vaccum leaks?

317ssayzarc

09-22-2008, 08:04 PM

I second that

Where the hell have you been [confused]

How you been Jon?

Nebone

09-22-2008, 08:08 PM

I'm going to miss the unveiling of all this power your new purty engine and turbo make. When I met ya first you were building this so you can have fun this summer. Plans change huh? I'll see ya tomorrow and then I'm off to Deutschland.

Militant-Grunt

09-22-2008, 08:43 PM

This picture was growing on me and I now declare it officially fucking sick:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSC_0790.jpg

And yup its my new background, thanks Sebastian [up]

Haha nice, cant wait to see videos of it running.

Bic-Ball

09-22-2008, 08:58 PM

is it purple wastegate?

Nebone

09-22-2008, 09:00 PM

Yup it's purple ionized.

Remember I didn't tighten those manifold nuts TIGHT so check it before you start it.

Also, are you getting methanol injection before the tune?

317ssayzarc

09-23-2008, 04:02 AM

Yup it's purple ionized.

Remember I didn't tighten those manifold nuts TIGHT so check it before you start it.

Also, are you getting methanol injection before the tune?

Nah, not this time around, maybe before I bring it in to get tuned next

Bigjuice

09-23-2008, 05:32 AM

Nice set up.....
Do you have or intend to use any aftermarket cams?

Nebone

09-23-2008, 06:41 AM

Cat cams already installed.

317ssayzarc

09-23-2008, 09:16 AM

Cat cams already installed.

Yup, 1013653's

maxspeed

09-23-2008, 09:39 AM

meh, if u dont make 500whp horsepower you suck at buying parts [:p]

Nebone

09-23-2008, 02:18 PM

meh, if u dont make 500whp horsepower you suck at buying parts [:p]

2nd that. I mean c'mon....[wrench]

317ssayzarc

09-23-2008, 02:22 PM

I expect nothing less than 200whp

dougyfresh

09-23-2008, 02:43 PM

I expect nothing less than 200whp

haha. That's what your motor makes with no boost.

317ssayzarc

09-23-2008, 03:07 PM

haha. That's what your motor makes with no boost.

Ive learned not to expect SHIT.... I know its capable of 400whp or so more, but Im not going to expect it

Don Supreme

09-23-2008, 03:45 PM

Ive learned not to expect SHIT.... I know its capable of 400whp or so more, but Im not going to expect it

My thoughts exactly...

Nebone

10-03-2008, 03:35 PM

Updates? Is it getting tuned yet?

1fstavant

10-03-2008, 07:25 PM

jake srry bout the parts deal...but your build looks awesome are you going to sng this year?

317ssayzarc

10-03-2008, 07:54 PM

Updates? Is it getting tuned yet?

Aloha from the US homie [>_<]

It was supposed to be last weekend, but Kevin was busy... Now this weekend Im busy... So next weekend it is, then Ill be picking it up and driving it straight to sng...

Also a couple of changes... The car will NOT be getting dyno tuned yet... I need to fab up a new intercooler since my current ER comp just will not cut it for roadrace. I also need to get the SEM mani on my car (soon) and put on my OBD 1 VR throttle body I have laying around. And I need to make an exhaust, just a downpipe for now haha (I did order $500+ of 304 bends and tube but idk if itll be here in time). Plus I figure if I get sick of the .63 AR, I can switch to the .82 before the final tune, a friend of mine in Oregon has one spare off of his MK1 rabbit [cool]

Think thats all the updates for now Sebastian, Ill post up if I missed anything [up]

317ssayzarc

10-03-2008, 07:56 PM

jake srry bout the parts deal...but your build looks awesome are you going to sng this year?

Its cool man, let me know when you need anything, Im always gonna be here [cool]

Ill be at sng, not sure about racing... Im only going to have driven the car a day at the time of sng, not sure Ill be comfortable yet... Plus Im not bringing a trailer this time, so I dont want to push an unproven setup. And my timing will be low, since Kevin isnt dyno tuning it he cant see peak torque and consequently cant max timing...

quattro16

10-03-2008, 08:02 PM

Jake get it ready for Nov 9th for hpde1 in NJ new track Thunderbolt. I'll be there.

1fstavant

10-03-2008, 08:17 PM

sounds good, thing should rip when your all tuned up

317ssayzarc

10-03-2008, 08:24 PM

Jake get it ready for Nov 9th for hpde1 in NJ new track Thunderbolt. I'll be there.

Im thinking about it, dunno if I can swing it, I have a big Matco/Snap On bill at the moment

317ssayzarc

10-03-2008, 08:25 PM

sounds good, thing should rip when your all tuned up

Yea thats the idea, I think itll rip just fine even without aggressive timing

TQMB5

10-03-2008, 08:38 PM

317ssayzarc

10-03-2008, 09:16 PM

where did you buy your bends from? i bought 350 and i had one bend extra[:D] I think my order consisted of 3) 120 1) 90 and 6 feet of straight. that was from turbo back to a big ass mother fuckin aero muffler that was a big slut to fit. i ordered from http://store.racing-solutions.org/

also, what are you doing for head work again, sorry if its been mentioned but im lazy.

who eventually will be doing your custom tune?

I ordered from the same place... I bought the following plus some 1/2" 304 tube for my oil return from another site:

12 ft 304 3"
2 180* bends 3" 304
1 3" flex pipe
1 stainless 3" Vband assembly
1 stainless 02 bung
2 90* 2.5" aluminum
2 ft 2.5" aluminum
and like a few other things Im forgetting

headwork consists of the following:
ported AEB head
all new valve guides
Supertech exhaust valves
new lifters
CAT 3653 cams
CAT gold springs
CAT adjustable cam gear

Kevin Black or I will be doing the final tune, if its too much money when Im ready, Ill do it myself... Ive tuned many a car on the dyno, but never one as high hp/liter as this one will be [:|]

t1demont1

10-04-2008, 12:09 AM

I wish i could weld, save me a lot of trouble it would.

317ssayzarc

10-04-2008, 05:04 AM

No doubt, now I just need a TIG and plasma cutter and Im set

quattro16

10-04-2008, 08:28 AM

I Have A Good Intercooler Core For Cheap If You Want It. I'll Get Pics And Sizes Later. Pm Me.

Euro-Tuner

10-04-2008, 08:50 AM

Where the hell have you been [confused]

How you been Jon?

just messing around with the car, been good, your build is looking great. cant wait to see the finished product.

317ssayzarc

10-04-2008, 09:04 AM

I Have A Good Intercooler Core For Cheap If You Want It. I'll Get Pics And Sizes Later. Pm Me.

I have a few Garrett cores laying around here, but no 800hp core [:(]

317ssayzarc

10-04-2008, 09:06 AM

just messing around with the car, been good, your build is looking great. cant wait to see the finished product.

Your car going to be back in shape for sng? If not, let me know if theres anything I can do to help... Or I can set it up so it can get trailered down to my shop in upper RI and Ill have it ready for sng [wrench]

1fstavant

10-04-2008, 06:22 PM

my precison 750 kept me at 26" celcius at wot...i would look into one of those for your goals

317ssayzarc

10-04-2008, 08:31 PM

my precison 750 kept me at 26" celcius at wot...i would look into one of those for your goals

Im not sure that would cut it on a 35R on C16

mike-2ptzero

10-04-2008, 10:09 PM

my precison 750 kept me at 26" celcius at wot...i would look into one of those for your goals

But your setup isn't making anywhere near 750chp and he plans making that much with the GT35r.

Don Supreme

10-05-2008, 07:10 AM

Im not sure that would cut it on a 35R on C16

Come one Jake, don't be rediculous, of course the 750 core is enough for a 35r on c16.........

Why wouldn't it be?

mike-2ptzero

10-05-2008, 07:20 AM

Come one Jake, don't be rediculous, of course the 750 core is enough for a 35r on c16.........

Why wouldn't it be?

They make a 825hp core that is 3" longer and 1/8" shorter which would be the better choice for the 35r at 32+psi.

1fstavant

10-05-2008, 07:22 AM

wow all i was sayin was look into the precision series...sorry to bother all of you

317ssayzarc

10-05-2008, 07:33 AM

Come one Jake, don't be rediculous, of course the 750 core is enough for a 35r on c16.........

Why wouldn't it be?

Well 600whp = around 750chp... It would work, but I would have no room to grow

317ssayzarc

10-05-2008, 07:33 AM

wow all i was sayin was look into the precision series...sorry to bother all of you

Oh I know, dont get upset, no ones targeting you [cool]

1fstavant

10-05-2008, 07:48 AM

lol

Euro-Tuner

10-05-2008, 08:13 AM

Your car going to be back in shape for sng? If not, let me know if theres anything I can do to help... Or I can set it up so it can get trailered down to my shop in upper RI and Ill have it ready for sng [wrench]

SNG?? where/what is that?

mike-2ptzero

10-05-2008, 08:16 AM

SNG?? where/what is that?

SNG = Show N Go at E-town. I know that and dont even live on the east coast. [;)]

1fstavant

10-05-2008, 03:21 PM

gonna b the firt trak for me...id its runin on time

bassed

10-05-2008, 03:31 PM

gonna b the firt trak for me...id its runin on time

English please?

1fstavant

10-05-2008, 06:16 PM

shitty cell phone reply at work...itll be the first time at the track if the motors done in time....damn everyones hating on me today

Euro-Tuner

10-05-2008, 08:08 PM

oh, I think even if I get my car running Im just gonna throw it up for winter, or atleast strip some shit off it...

317ssayzarc

10-11-2008, 06:26 PM

Well, the car was supposed to go in for standalone today, but a nasty raised man hole cover busted my oil pan... Needless to say, I need my daily driver and the car will be put off another week due to this event... It even set off my airbag and bent my subframe!!

1fstavant

10-11-2008, 06:45 PM

that sucks once again not the month of the b5 huh [headbang]

Don Supreme

10-11-2008, 07:22 PM

317ssayzarc

10-11-2008, 07:47 PM

This happened to the A4?

Nah, my golf daily driver [down]

AudiA4_20T

10-11-2008, 08:58 PM

meh, the golf is cool but the awd is legit, let me know if u need a subframe...

u need to get the a4 goin...................

317ssayzarc

10-11-2008, 09:32 PM

A4's actually all set to go, bumper and everything even... I just need to fix my Golf, I drive well over 500 a week now with the drives to and from the shop, so I need my car... Btw, the fucking city is going to pay for this shit, the fucking fire truck was scraping its pan on this fucking man hole cover... As they were putting down speedy dry, they were like, "Dude, Id fucking car my insurance company asap and file a claim, this is total shit"... I agree and thats exactly what I did

Das General

10-11-2008, 09:34 PM

I bent 2 of my wheels due to shitty roads in my town. I tried to fight it, but I haven't received scheisse. They did repave the road though.

317ssayzarc

10-11-2008, 09:40 PM

figured id share a shitty cell pic:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/1011082244.jpg

and derek, sorry bro, next weekend

Das General

10-11-2008, 09:44 PM

No worries bud. Do whatcha gotta do.

dougyfresh

10-13-2008, 06:34 AM

The Golf fixed yet? I can't believe the damage that manhole caused.

Thanks for those tips on the A4's suspension. Now we just gotta figure out how to get that damn upper front spindle bolt out. After reading the Bentley, it looks like that bolt has to slide out in order to remove the upper control arms from the spindle. That's how the tie-rod end works.

Mmm. Chinese food.

317ssayzarc

10-13-2008, 09:24 AM

Well Ill come down there sometime... Put the car in the air to do the pan, and noticed the suframe was MUCH worse than I thought... Subframe looks like it was cheese and someone took a grater to it, and its smooshed 3" backwards... Plus where it bent, the control arm mounts, and its pushed back 2" and the control arm doesnt have but a couple strands of subframe metal to hold it in anymore... Oh, and the back dog bone mount tore... So I need a subframe, control arm, oil pan (have it), and new gray leather seat.................

t1demont1

10-13-2008, 09:34 AM

so the airbag went off in the seat? thats nuts. You dont think there was any frame damage grabbing the subframe and the dogbone like that?

317ssayzarc

10-13-2008, 09:35 AM

so the airbag went off in the seat? thats nuts. You dont think there was any frame damage grabbing the subframe and the dogbone like that?

We shall see when I put it on the alignment rack... If so, the Golf car will be parted [headbang][headbang][headbang]

Don Supreme

10-13-2008, 10:06 AM

We shall see when I put it on the alignment rack... If so, the Golf car will be parted [headbang][headbang][headbang]

Your insurance should total the car. Did you have full coverage @ the time of the accident?

dougyfresh

10-13-2008, 01:59 PM

317ssayzarc

10-13-2008, 02:16 PM

Your insurance should total the car. Did you have full coverage @ the time of the accident?

No sir, I dont have anything but liability on either of my cars... A4 is worth 5-6 grand and my Golf the same... I have 3k in mods in the Golf and over 20k in the Audi, neither can be covered for how much they are worth to me. Plus if you ever saw my Golf, you would be suprised if I said it had 50k on it, and it has 100k [eek]

317ssayzarc

10-13-2008, 02:17 PM

That sucks!

If you need my Jeep let me know.

Need to get your A4 done first! [>_<]

dougyfresh

10-13-2008, 04:04 PM

Need to get your A4 done first! [>_<]

I have my bicycle. How else do you think I'm getting to NJ to pick up the A4? bicycle to New Haven. Train to NYC, train out to central NJ. Bicycle to ASP

I'll get a photo of that MKII tomorrow for you. Just because.

Don Supreme

10-13-2008, 04:07 PM

I have my bicycle. How else do you think I'm getting to NJ to pick up the A4? bicycle to New Haven. Train to NYC, train out to central NJ. Bicycle to ASP

I'll get a photo of that MKII tomorrow for you. Just because.

Really? nice...

dougyfresh

10-13-2008, 05:13 PM

Really? nice...

What? the bike ride? Regardless.. I think I am going to ride my bike down to ASP when I do wind up picking up my car. What better than a fixed gear / some train ride from Hartford to south Jersey? Better than hitching rides.

Oh, Jake... that MKII has Recaros. [>_<]

317ssayzarc

10-13-2008, 05:39 PM

Oh, Jake... that MKII has Recaros. [>_<]

Stop it now Doug, Im warning you... Have little money to spend as it is but I just cant help looking like this: [:d] when I think about a nice MKII 1.8t [evilsmile]

t1demont1

10-13-2008, 06:08 PM

that sounds like a fun ride, but very very long

Nebone

10-14-2008, 07:40 AM

Sucks to hear about the golf man! I had an extra subframe from my brothers jetta but forgot where I placed it. Go to a junkyard and get some parts and you'll be set. Poor Golf and don't part it.

317ssayzarc

10-14-2008, 09:06 AM

Sucks to hear about the golf man! I had an extra subframe from my brothers jetta but forgot where I placed it. Go to a junkyard and get some parts and you'll be set. Poor Golf and don't part it.

Hoping its not bent at the frame... I just dug into my Audi fund for some parts for it... Little bit over 600 for a used subframe, new oil pan, dog bone mount inserts, new control arms with poly bushings, poly sway bar bushings, new ball joints, and some total 5w-40

Dont think I could let it go easily, Im very attached at this point...

dougyfresh

10-14-2008, 10:14 AM

that sounds like a fun ride, but very very long

Nah. That's a short ride for me. [:D]

Nebone

10-15-2008, 02:04 PM

Fix the golf yet? I'm surrounded by 100hp B5s here with altezzas. Why don't people here have a clue...the damn cars come from here.

AudiA4_20T

10-15-2008, 02:23 PM

Fix the golf yet? I'm surrounded by 100hp B5s here with altezzas. Why don't people here have a clue...the damn cars come from here.

bring back some Ecodes!

Nebone

10-15-2008, 02:28 PM

Each newer B5 has ecodes here. I'm going to tour the main VW godly factory next week...I'm shaking in my seat just thinking about it. Can't take pics tho...

317ssayzarc

10-15-2008, 02:32 PM

Hows it going with the internship stuff? Havent fixed the golf yet, need parts to come in... Got the oil pan today!

Nebone

10-15-2008, 03:20 PM

Waiting to hear back from VW. I oficialy know people who work for VW here in Wolfsburg and in the Mexico plant now. Takes about 6 months for VW to respond about a job and about a year for Audi! I'd take a blue collar job at VW/Audi in a heartbeat tho now.

317ssayzarc

10-18-2008, 08:51 AM

Well I guess Ill explain this week since nothing good is coming out of it like I thought... Was gonna suprise you guys at Fall sng but...

Left my shop at 8 pm Thursday night, went and dropped off the car at Forcefed Engineering for Kevin Black to tune it, got there at 2:10 am... Left there at 3:00 am after bs'ing with Kevin for a while... Went to NJ to pick up a customers S4, got there at like 3:50 am and started to load shit up. Had to put all the parts of the car including the engine and tranny in the bed, then load up the car. Left there at around 5:30 am, hit a bit of NYC traffic and got home around 10:30 am...

Why did I do this crazyness?!? Because I was told I might be able to have my car for Fall sng... I'm paying Forcefed to make feed and return lines for the turbo, and to weld my intercooler pipe since I couldnt get access to a TIG until this weekend... Now I just called and they said a few days, which is fine... But if its going to be a few days more, then its not even close to sng and why would they even say that to me? I would have rather done the stuff myself then taken it down when it was ready... Now Ive lost a days pay and whatever labor costs for the lines and IC pipe... Im sure Ill be happy with the outcome, Im just a bit disgruntled at the moment...

Don Supreme

10-18-2008, 09:05 AM

Nebone

10-18-2008, 06:59 PM

AudiA4_20T

10-18-2008, 08:50 PM

I know the feeling............

seriously

317ssayzarc

10-19-2008, 06:48 AM

Nice man. If they do it right you will be so happy and won't even care that you spent the money. Sometimes it's just "easier" to let someone else do it. You picked up that S4 for the single turbo setup with the trailer? Is the Golf done?

Yea I sure hope so...

Yup, picked up the S4. Nope, my Golf aint done, Black Forest Industries sucks ass... Paid mid-day Monday, it shipped Thursday night [headbang]

Nebone

10-19-2008, 04:14 PM

Why are you dealing with them?

317ssayzarc

10-19-2008, 04:25 PM

Got control arms with poly bushings, poly sway bushings and a stage 1 dogbone mount

Das General

10-19-2008, 04:26 PM

Thanks for pickin up the S4 Jake!

I gotta eventually come down to drop off some goods. And you are going to have to show me what the 35r is like...

317ssayzarc

10-19-2008, 06:53 PM

Stop by Clints on the way up and pick up the things I missed haha... There was alotta shit there, sure I missed something...

Nebone

10-21-2008, 03:45 AM

Make some decent daytime vids of the car when it's done and I do hope it will be this time.

dougyfresh

10-21-2008, 07:25 AM

Why did I do this crazyness?!? Because I was told I might be able to have my car for Fall sng... I'm paying Forcefed to make feed and return lines for the turbo, and to weld my intercooler pipe since I couldnt get access to a TIG until this weekend... Now I just called and they said a few days, which is fine... But if its going to be a few days more, then its not even close to sng and why would they even say that to me? I would have rather done the stuff myself then taken it down when it was ready... Now Ive lost a days pay and whatever labor costs for the lines and IC pipe... Im sure Ill be happy with the outcome, Im just a bit disgruntled at the moment...

Hmmm. Sounds VERY familiar... (I want my car back. Esp with these 35degF mornings.)

Stop by Clints on the way up and pick up the things I missed haha... There was alotta shit there, sure I missed something...
Parts everywhere. Knowing your luck the parts you picked up were for Clint's A4 and not Derrick's S4.

AudiA4_20T

10-21-2008, 11:52 AM

Hmmm. Sounds VERY familiar... (I want my car back. Esp with these 35degF mornings.)

Parts everywhere. Knowing your luck the parts you picked up were for Clint's A4 and not Derrick's S4.

that would be so bad, but i doubt it

t1demont1

10-26-2008, 07:35 PM

any updates?

317ssayzarc

10-26-2008, 07:54 PM

Dont even get me started!!!

Ill just leave it at no, and Ill post up once I actually pick it up (told soon, but who fucking knows)...

firstars

10-26-2008, 07:57 PM

this sounds like the story of every build/custom tune lololol

AudiA4_20T

10-26-2008, 08:04 PM

I can just imagine u flipping out at everything jake lol

317ssayzarc

10-26-2008, 08:04 PM

this sounds like the story of every build/custom tune lololol

Yea I know [>_<]

t1demont1

10-26-2008, 08:25 PM

Yea I know [>_<]

sorry to twist the knife in your back by asking for an update lol. I just want to see how you do with the vems/lugtronic. Ive been thinking long and hard about that route

317ssayzarc

10-26-2008, 08:32 PM

Oh no problem, Im just a bit bitter because I have my own shop and I know how long it takes to do stuff... I wish I just did it here, but I was offered a shot at Show and Go (yea, a WEEK ago) so I bit the bullet... Its not the standalone thats the hold up, its the minimal fab thats taking a while that bothers me...

Im also trying out the new bosch high impedance 1000cc injectors, which is cool [up]

t1demont1

10-27-2008, 09:00 AM

yeah i was talking to kevin about those, ive been thinking about those too

mike-2ptzero

10-27-2008, 11:09 AM

317ssayzarc

10-27-2008, 02:20 PM

Doesn't the stand alone your going with allow you to use low imp injectors?

Yes it does, but its cheaper to run these instead of injector drivers. Also I was led to believe that high impedance injectors are superior in some ways...

Nebone

10-27-2008, 02:53 PM

will it be ready by next H20?

317ssayzarc

10-27-2008, 02:59 PM

will it be ready by next H20?

Ready as in done forever? NEVER ahaha... Still have to do at least a new intercooler, bigger throttle body, intake manifold and 044 fuel pump... But who knows how long that will take since I'm now unemployed [:(]

Nebone

10-27-2008, 03:02 PM

This is what you should do for money now...watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SdSNctcu34) and watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yypcyrkiZV8&feature=related)

mike-2ptzero

10-27-2008, 03:02 PM

Ready as in done forever? NEVER ahaha... Still have to do at least a new intercooler, bigger throttle body, intake manifold and 044 fuel pump... But who knows how long that will take since I'm now unemployed [:(]

Time for a job at Taco Bell? [;)]

317ssayzarc

10-27-2008, 03:09 PM

This is what you should do for money now...watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SdSNctcu34)

I wish... Find me an opening [cool]

Time for a job at Taco Bell? [;)]

Hell yea! If I could find one... Shit, I spent 30+ bucks on that shit this weekend, they are the only place open after 3AM around URI, its like a monopoly haha...

quattro16

10-27-2008, 07:10 PM

I thought you had your own shop? So how are out of a job?

317ssayzarc

10-27-2008, 07:58 PM

I do, but that was at my own leisure... I had a steady 45+ hr a week job, but not anymore...

t1demont1

10-27-2008, 08:23 PM

fuck the economy

317ssayzarc

10-27-2008, 08:54 PM

Indeed sir, and I fear it will only get worse for at least the next 6 months...

quattro16

10-28-2008, 06:30 PM

I hear ya. They just let go few hourly guys and some salesmen at the dealer. Two guys were there for over 25 years!!!!! But I'm ok when I make 90 + hours a week.

317ssayzarc

10-28-2008, 07:53 PM

90+ hrs a week and Audi of America hasn't come to time trial you yet?

quattro16

10-29-2008, 09:17 AM

Time trial LOL. Its all paperwork. I don't mean to brag but my personal best was 116 hours 3 weeks ago!

317ssayzarc

10-29-2008, 10:43 AM

One of my teachers, who worked for a Ford dealer, was doing transmission swaps so fast he had Ford come down and time trial him. He was screwed either way, either he couldn't do in the 2hrs (book was 7hrs) and he lost hundreds of hours OR he did it, then they lower the amount of time you get.... They ended up lowering the time... Then he went on to perfect heater cores, they did it again and he lowered the time alotted...

A4Rob

10-29-2008, 10:54 AM

Time trial LOL. Its all paperwork. I don't mean to brag but my personal best was 116 hours 3 weeks ago!

You worked Sunday to Sunday 16.5 hours every day?

mike-2ptzero

10-29-2008, 10:57 AM

317ssayzarc

10-29-2008, 11:00 AM

You worked Sunday to Sunday 16.5 hours every day?

Flat rate Rob [;)]

My buddy Paul worked 14hrs and left at lunch break at BMW once [:D]

317ssayzarc

10-29-2008, 11:02 AM

Which is good for the customers and bad for all the other tech's.[>_<]

Yea, but your screwed either way... You wanna keep making money, but you dont wanna lose hundreds of hours (that youve probably already spent haha)...

quattro16

10-29-2008, 12:28 PM

No But The Actual Time It Took Was 54 Hours Of Actually Being Clocked In. There Is Alot More That Goes Into This, But All I Can Say Is That I'm One In A Million To Be Where I'm At Making The Money I Do. But Now Onto Big Turbo Threads!!!!!!!!

t1demont1

10-29-2008, 05:02 PM

caps lock ftl lol it makes you look like you took the time to capitalize the first letter of every word

Bic-Ball

10-29-2008, 10:01 PM

mind if i ask what audi dealership you work at on long island? i've tried a few and feel the most comfortable with anchor.

zerb

10-31-2008, 10:49 AM

get this thing done. [wrench][drive]

317ssayzarc

10-31-2008, 10:53 AM

get this thing done. [wrench][drive]

Send me an 044 [;)], oh, and find a way to get in touch with ForceFed... I cant, and they have MY fucking car [evilmad][headbang][evilmad][headbang][headbang][headbang][headbang]

Who the hell are you anyways noob?

Don Supreme

10-31-2008, 11:16 AM

Send me an 044 [;)], oh, and find a way to get in touch with ForceFed... I cant, and they have MY fucking car [evilmad][headbang][evilmad][headbang][headbang][headbang][headbang]

Who the hell are you anyways noob?

Hold up now --- You sent this car to get tuned, hoping for 600 AWHP and you didn't put a fuel pump in it?

317ssayzarc

10-31-2008, 11:24 AM

Sent the car to get street tuned... Weak boost, like 25psi and weak timing like 13*... I have a walbro in there now, but that wont cut it... I built the engine to do anything I wanted, I built the rest around a T25 3071R... I need a bigger fmic, better pump and bigger throttle body/intake mani before I get it dyno tuned... That will be towards the spring...

zerb

10-31-2008, 12:23 PM

nooooooob, damn thats harsh.

317ssayzarc

10-31-2008, 12:33 PM

Well you couldnt figure out how to send a pm for 10 mins... LOL

Btw, try to figure this one out [:p], I sent you a lovely friend request, figure out how to accept it [:D]

You should stick around and work on those 5 posts Johnny... It'd be nice to have another fellow SPA/35R user here [cool]

Don Supreme

10-31-2008, 12:36 PM

Weak boost = 25 psi --- yeah hahaha I like the sound of that.

zerb

10-31-2008, 12:40 PM

ill be around jake, ill post my project later on tonight over here...andthat friend thing is gonna take me forever to figure out. hah

317ssayzarc

10-31-2008, 12:50 PM

ill be around jake, ill post my project later on tonight over here...andthat friend thing is gonna take me forever to figure out. hah

That would be real cool...

Dont worry about the friend request... Sean (aka DonSupreme) hasn't figured it out yet either and he's no noob... Or he just doesn't like me [=(] [>_<]

317ssayzarc

10-31-2008, 12:52 PM

Weak boost = 25 psi --- yeah hahaha I like the sound of that.

Yea, I have a feeling I'm gonna get sick of it fast and be like: this .63 has got to go... I have a Vband .82 at my disposal, so thats not a problem [up]

Don Supreme

10-31-2008, 01:04 PM

Well you have that 2l, so anything is possible, but I certainly won't be going any bigger than .63 ----------

317ssayzarc

10-31-2008, 01:06 PM

Well you have that 2l, so anything is possible, but I certainly won't be going any bigger than .63 ----------

Yea I may even go to a 1.06 and spin it to 9k just to see what happens... I would like to do a dbb67 instead, since Im sure its a better choice but I cant afford that [:(]

And my comp ratio is too high... I may go to 83.5mm and lower it down to 8.5:1