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    Veteran Member Four Rings S4UCE's Avatar
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    Intermittent no-start issue

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    About four times in the past few months my car has decided not to start. It always seems to happen after I've driven the car a short distance (before the oil gets up to temp) and when I get back to the car within an hour or so. I doubt this is related but it's worth noting since it's happened this way every time. Battery reads 12 volts, starter cranks and the engine turns over normally but it never fires. If I just keep trying, after 5-20 minutes, the thing starts up fine like there was never an issue. WTF S4.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings tosh2.7's Avatar
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    does your fuel pump prime when you open the door
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    Veteran Member Four Rings ilyafil's Avatar
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    Possible CPS going out.
    "Basically the B7 is the girl you bring home to mom, and the B5 is her slutty sister."

    For Sale: Neuspeed Sport Springs

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tosh2.7 View Post
    does your fuel pump prime when you open the door
    My pump definitely doesn't prime when I open my door... It does on my Jetta, but on my S4 it doesn't and I'd definitely know with the 044 pump. I turn my key to on position, let the dash light up and then fire in the hole and I'm always okay. Stephen does the same thing, he doesn't just turn key and let it rip.
    Current: B9.5 SQ5 | Past: C7.5 S6, B5 S4, C7.5 A6, 8V A3, B8 A4, B5 A4 | Videos

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    Veteran Member Three Rings tosh2.7's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4 View Post
    My pump definitely doesn't prime when I open my door...
    good point. I've been working on VW's too long its messing up my head
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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilyafil View Post
    Possible CPS going out.
    That's a good idea.. Sucks that it's not throwing a code. I'll scan his car tonight to see if anything is there maybe a soft code was thrown this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by tosh2.7 View Post
    good point. I've been working on VW's too long its messing up my head
    Haha.. Fool!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings ilyafil's Avatar
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    On the CPS - next no start VAG it and see if you get RPM rise on crank.
    "Basically the B7 is the girl you bring home to mom, and the B5 is her slutty sister."

    For Sale: Neuspeed Sport Springs

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Okay cool.. I've been in the car when it does it, the RPMs deff aren't budging. We can confirm but I'm 99% sure and I think he'd agree that the RPM doesn't move. The car cranks cranks cranks but never turns over. Then randomly 20 mins later it'll start lol
    Current: B9.5 SQ5 | Past: C7.5 S6, B5 S4, C7.5 A6, 8V A3, B8 A4, B5 A4 | Videos

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    Veteran Member Four Rings ilyafil's Avatar
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    You wont see RPM rise on the cluster. Only in VCDS. All symptoms point to CPS though. If it's never been replaced - probably a good idea to just change it out.
    "Basically the B7 is the girl you bring home to mom, and the B5 is her slutty sister."

    For Sale: Neuspeed Sport Springs

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilyafil View Post
    You wont see RPM rise on the cluster. Only in VCDS. All symptoms point to CPS though. If it's never been replaced - probably a good idea to just change it out.
    Cool, thanks. We will look into that next time it happens and see about replacing it.
    Current: B9.5 SQ5 | Past: C7.5 S6, B5 S4, C7.5 A6, 8V A3, B8 A4, B5 A4 | Videos

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Current: B9.5 SQ5 | Past: C7.5 S6, B5 S4, C7.5 A6, 8V A3, B8 A4, B5 A4 | Videos

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    Veteran Member Four Rings S4UCE's Avatar
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    Thank you Michael, et al. I will replace the CPS and see what happens.

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    Established Member Two Rings Fattz89's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilyafil View Post
    Possible CPS going out.
    If the cps is not throwing a code then that ain't the issue. Check the icms that was my problem when I had this issue.
    T.S.E. HSC STG-5

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    Veteran Member Four Rings S4UCE's Avatar
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    I don't have ICMs

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    Veteran Member Three Rings tosh2.7's Avatar
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    also your Coolant temp sensor could be acting up.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings tosh2.7's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fattz89 View Post
    If the cps is not throwing a code then that ain't the issue. Check the icms that was my problem when I had this issue.
    9-10 there usually isn't a code thrown by the CPS
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    ^ Boom. Straight from the finest VW tech this side of the Mississippi!
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    Did u get your problem fix?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings S4UCE's Avatar
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    I ordered a new CPS, but I won't know if that fixes it until it doesn't happen again.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings S4UCE's Avatar
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    Just wanted to update with news that the new crank position sensor appears to have solved my issue. The car starts up quickly every time.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings tosh2.7's Avatar
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    life=complete
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    Veteran Member Four Rings AudiSportB5S4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tosh2.7 View Post
    life=complete
    Now he can be confident taking the ladies out on dates knowing it'll start every time.
    Current: B9.5 SQ5 | Past: C7.5 S6, B5 S4, C7.5 A6, 8V A3, B8 A4, B5 A4 | Videos

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    Veteran Member Three Rings tosh2.7's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiSportB5S4 View Post
    Now he can be confident taking the ladies out on dates knowing it'll start every time.
    bitches love cars that work 60% of the time all the time
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    Veteran Member Three Rings mightemouce's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4UCE View Post
    I ordered a new CPS, but I won't know if that fixes it until it doesn't happen again.
    By ordered you mean stopped by my house and hit up the grave yard

    Quote Originally Posted by S4UCE View Post
    Just wanted to update with news that the new crank position sensor appears to have solved my issue. The car starts up quickly every time.

    AH NO WHEY !
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    Veteran Member Three Rings mightemouce's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tosh2.7 View Post
    bitches love cars that work 60% of the time all the time
    Studies have proven this
    07 - RS4
    05.5 - 2.7t B7 -Sold
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