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    S6/S7 Start/Stop Button Retrofit - Bonus: How-To

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    NOTE: This is for those who already have the Convenience Key Start/Stop Button already in their B8 and wants a cosmetic change.

    I have to say, this isn't a huge mod but it's the little aesthetic touches that make it unique. I can't take full credit for this as I used the source below to help guide me and the OP there did an excellent job with details! Tried to take tons of pics and provide a How-To for the B8 DIY'ers as there are a couple differences.

    http://www.a5oc.com/forums/audi-a5-s...l-line-s6.html

    With the right tools and now that I've done it once, this mod can be done in about 15-20 mins for the mechanically inclined.

    *ALL* B8 Owners need to order the RHD Start Button - 4G2 905 217 B and 6 pin connector - 4D0971636. The issue is that ALL B8 models have the Start Switch on the left side of the console. The S6/S7 models have the switch on the opposite side of the driver. So all B8 models need the RHD switch no matter what side the driver is on. *Ordered from Alex @ EuroPrice*

    There are a few differences in the pin mapping for us compared to what is stated in the link above. I spent an hour and half trying countless pin configurations (No Exaggeration!) I was either getting the button to light up, but not start the car- Start the car, but the button wouldn't light up- Start the car with the light, and couldn't turn it off- Start the car without the light, and couldn't turn off- Or just nothing to work at all. After all that time spent I was about to give up right before I tried 1 more configuration and I was shocked that on my last try everything worked exactly how it should. What a pain in the ass, but it's done.

    B8 "S4" Pin Mapping
    OLD CONNECTOR >> NEW CONNECTOR
    PIN 1 >> PIN 4
    PIN 2 >> PIN 2 - Here is where the difference lies vs the mapping in the link above
    PIN 3 >> PIN 5
    PIN 4 >> PIN 3

    You can go here to get directions on how to remove the MMI console. (Thanks David!)

    http://www.audienthusiasts.com/Project_MMILED.html



    Here is the OEM Start/Stop Button in the B8S4.



    Here is the S6/S7 Button showing the part number on the sticker.



    Once you get the console removed, on the underside use a tiny screwdriver and work the 2 metal tabs on the button to remove from the front of the console.



    Here you will see the ridge that you will have to trim off. I used cutter pliers on it, and trimmed it down with an X-Acto knife.





    Here is the OEM pin connector. As you can see the pin numbers are marked on the back of the connector.





    Here is the New pin connector. These pin numbers are also marked but on the front of the connector. The actual connector snaps into the harness housing once you've pinned all the wires.





    On the OEM pin connector, pry open the harness from the front of the connector.



    From this point use a pin extractor, or in this case a "dental tool" to extract the 1st pin.



    As you can see Pin 1 from the OEM connector goes into Pin 4 of the New connector.



    Continue with the remaining 3 pins until you have them all in the New connector.



    Once completed, slide the connector into the harness housing. It can only go in 1 way.







    When you install the new button it does not click into place, as the metal tabs do not line up with the metal tabs off the original button. It is snug enough however, and you will be pushing the button every time you use it, so it's not going to go anywhere or move around on you.



    Reinstall your MMI console in reverse order and pat yourself on the back.



    Here's an illuminated night shot. I wish the red ring lit up to match the MMI knob and the Volume knob, but as much of a pain it was to get the button to light up at all and working properly, I can live with this.



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    Awesome, i Just got my switch today in the mail. Thanks for the heads up on the pinout!
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    Just so you all know if you didn't already.. ALL 2014 S cars will have the red ringed Start/Stop button next year... Silly guys at Audi are gonna make me do this retro fit as well. .

    Nice write up BTW.

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    Excellent and comprehensive writeup, thank you. I don't see myself doing this mod, but well done, man.
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    we really should have a DIY sticky - or is that in a separate forum somewhere?
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    S6/S7 Start/Stop Button Retrofit - Bonus: How-To

    Sweet mod...wish I had the time and balls to do it

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    Excellent write-up!

    Too bad we found out after the LHD drive switches went out that everyone in a B8 needs the RHD. The A6/A7 models move the switch back and forth for LHD and RHD models while B8 models do not and we all have the switch on the left side of the console.

    Loos great, thanks again!
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    Got to use this switch quite a bit this weekend, and it has a slightly different feel to it. It feels a little bit more solid than the OEM switch, if that is even possible. I like this mod alot- aesthetically and functionally!
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    Got mine into the car today, probably one of the quickest mods ive ever done.

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    Looks really good with the 6mt! I assume the pin config I found worked for you as well? I was hoping it wasn't just a fluke for my car only. haha.
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    It looks good but I don't think it would go well with silver stitching interior. Just my 2 cent.
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    S6/S7 Start/Stop Button Retrofit - Bonus: How-To

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    S6/S7 Start/Stop Button Retrofit - Bonus: How-To

    What process did you use to get the surround off that's my only hold up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronz View Post
    What process did you use to get the surround off that's my only hold up...
    Take the climate controls out by pulling them forward, then just pull up on the surround from inside where the shift boot was.
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    There's also a link in the 1st post on how to remove the MMI console and climate controls.
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    There is a B8/8K version of the red ring start button for our cars which don't require wiring swap. I have it installed and the part number is 8K0 905 217 B, apparently the number is the same as the original silver one. Maybe there is a color code different but the label didn't show.





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    I'd be tempted if the ring lit up red at night, but for just a red painted ring... eh... I can't talk myself into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    I'd be tempted if the ring lit up red at night, but for just a red painted ring... eh... I can't talk myself into it.
    ...but it makes the car sound better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awhk82 View Post
    There is a B8/8K version of the red ring start button for our cars which don't require wiring swap. I have it installed and the part number is 8K0 905 217 B, apparently the number is the same as the original silver one. Maybe there is a color code different but the label didn't show.

    Very nice find man! Question, how does it fit in the housing, and does it snap in? Are the tabs the same as the OEM one, or did you have to modify and remove one of them as well?
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    It is just plug and play, no modification is needed. Another way to install is to pry the button portion out from the mechanism and swap over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn View Post
    we really should have a DIY sticky - or is that in a separate forum somewhere?
    Agreed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chusteveb View Post
    Agreed!
    I posted in the feedback forum before for a tech section, all the other models have it besides the b8s4
    Post in it and hopefully Anthony will add one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awhk82 View Post
    There is a B8/8K version of the red ring start button for our cars which don't require wiring swap. I have it installed and the part number is 8K0 905 217 B, apparently the number is the same as the original silver one. Maybe there is a color code different but the label didn't show.






    Alex - would this work in a US Spec B8 A4 2009?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander1010 View Post
    Alex - would this work in a US Spec B8 A4 2009?
    Can't see why not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex@Europrice View Post
    Can't see why not.
    Should we try a GB? Price is $108 on ECS. I think we could do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander1010 View Post
    Should we try a GB? Price is $108 on ECS. I think we could do better.
    I got mine from Europrice, was way cheaper than 108.
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    Why call it S6/S7? Looks exactly the same as B8.5 button...
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    Can't seem to find a link to purchase the part. Does anyone have a link?
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    ECS is overpriced. Can be had for $65.

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    ECS is overpriced. Can be had for $65.

    http://www.bks-tuning.com/epages/171...ducts/AUA5I050
    I saw this at BKS too but is this the one that will fit the B8 as a "plug and play" or the one we have to mod?

    awhk82 - thanks for sharing the part number but where did you buy the one that was "plug and play" for the B8? Sign me up!!!

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    If needed:

    A4, S4 Start/Stop Switch (Red Trim) – $75.00 each (Retail - $128.75)

    This is a plug in mod without having to change the plug or modify the switch.

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    A4, S4, RS4 Post-Facelift Start/Stop Switch (Red Trim) - $62.37 each (Retail - $101.00)
    Thanks Alex. No "pre-Facelift" version for a 2011 A4 B8? Or do have to make some mods to get it to work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keeva381 View Post
    Thanks Alex. No "pre-Facelift" version for a 2011 A4 B8? Or do have to make some mods to get it to work?
    I should clarify, this switch will work on ALL B8 and B8.5 models. Plug and Play for all B8 and B8.5 models!

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    Can't tell from the picture. Does this plug-n-play part (8K0 905 217 B) light up the letters, like the one from S6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niner View Post
    Can't tell from the picture. Does this plug-n-play part (8K0 905 217 B) light up the letters, like the one from S6?
    I'll be honest, off the top of my head I can't remember if the B8 and B8.5 stock ones light up. Do they? As long as the stock switch lights up this new red ringed switch will as well.

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    The letters light up, on both the all silver and silver/red ring buttons. The red ring does NOT light up... you can easily tell this by just looking at the pics of the two buttons. The differences between these two buttons seems to be just the button cover itself. One is all silver, the other is silver with a red outer ring... nothing else is special about them.... they may add 5HP however. :p

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    The words do light up, but the ring does not.
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    Alex, do you have any OEM fit push button starts that look like this?

    If so I would seriously consider this modification

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    The Euro ICBM launch start button...

    Thank you for noting the lettering lights up, assumed it did but I wanted to confirm first and without the Allroad around I could not first hand. The red ring will not light up as noted as well.

    Cheers,
    Alexander van Gerbig
    www.europrice.us
    [email protected]


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    INSTALL HELP: I'm not the smartest guy so just wanted to throw it out there that to replace the start/stop button, you need to push button UP AND OUT when trying to physically remove it. It does not pull down and out. Push the bottom of the button up towards to the ceiling of the car to get it out. Probably would've saved me 10 minutes!

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