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    Midpipe, intake and coolant went in last night. I will be starting her in a few hours.

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    Exciting!! Reading your thread gets me excited. I just ordered a EuroCode FMIC, k04 kit, and Milltek quadtip exhaust as well.

    Curious, how are you doing your custom tune? Unitronic? I was reading about different tuning options but wasn't able to find much for the B8. How much boost do you plan on running (compared to the APR k04 flash)? I know the stock B8 fuel pump and injectors are larger than previous gen A4s and does not need to be upgraded, but if you plan on maxing out the k04, would you need to upgrade? What whp are you aiming for?

    Sorry for all the questions, haha.

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    Major engine work being done, I give you props for undertaking that. You should be pleased with the result!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuShop View Post
    Exciting!! Reading your thread gets me excited. I just ordered a EuroCode FMIC, k04 kit, and Milltek quadtip exhaust as well.

    Curious, how are you doing your custom tune? Unitronic? I was reading about different tuning options but wasn't able to find much for the B8. How much boost do you plan on running (compared to the APR k04 flash)? I know the stock B8 fuel pump and injectors are larger than previous gen A4s and does not need to be upgraded, but if you plan on maxing out the k04, would you need to upgrade? What whp are you aiming for?

    Sorry for all the questions, haha.
    SHE's ALIVE!!!! connected the battery, double checked all lines and fired her up. She started up first try (naturally). Burned off some oil I spilled when prepping the turbo and after a minute of very light smoke, she just sat and purred. Got her up to operating temp, double checked all lines and everything seems good. Coolant is good, no CELs, boost gauge is showing good vacuum reading. I am letting her cool down and then I have to re-install the exhaust manifold heat shielding (PITA) and am going to connect my ross-tech and run diag. Not to mention, I want to add a few codes to the car. After that, I need to properly install the intake and reattach the bumper and all the miscellaneous items and fasteners. The hardest part is over now.

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    Since I will not drive her until Tuesday, I cannot attest to any of the parts, but what I can say is they look SEXY! As for the tune itself, I am leaving all of that up to my tuner. I do not have a set WHP figure or boost level in mind. I am going into this with the idea of the best possible configuration that does not jeopardize the integrity of the car. Whatever figure Mase comes up with, I will trust it. Mase is VERY good at what he does and I will leave that to him. All I can say is that with the level of adjustability he has compared to a base line map that is supplied by APR, the results should leave the car a joy to drive. I remember loading base maps on my motorcycles and getting custom tunes later. Even with such a small engine, the improvements over generic maps is impressive.

    The only issue I think I may face is a CEL from the aft O2 sensor. I might have to invest in one of those 90 degree O2 sensors with catalyst. We shall wait and see. In the mean time, I am going to finish putting her back together, get her outside and bathe her and snap some low res shots. Until tuning, I will not be able to provide any video/audio clips but rest assured people, they are coming. Stay tuned, I will have some updated pics shortly when she is back together and after she is clean. I gotta get back to work!

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    Props on the DIY and the build. Looking forward to seeing what Mase comes up with as far as tuning. I would think these 2.0's could hold a decent amount of boost and give you a nice HP as a result...and still get 25+mpg. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by rippin'av View Post
    Props on the DIY and the build. Looking forward to seeing what Mase comes up with as far as tuning. I would think these 2.0's could hold a decent amount of boost and give you a nice HP as a result...and still get 25+mpg. LOL
    Thanks for the props. It definitely was a learning experience. Typically I would have a manual by my side when undergoing something like this, but the piece of garbage that is available from Bentley is absolutely terrible. From my understanding with talking to Ross Tech, Bentley typically doesn't take returns after the software has been opened and installed, but after talking with Bentley directly, they agreed that their software is not what it needs to be and is going to give me a full refund. Their customer service was great and friendly, I just wish they would step up their game on the product side.

    On to more important issues. The car is 99% back together. I am just trying to engineer a way to get the carbonio installed with an oem fit and I believe I have a solution. I will test it out first and if I come back with good results, maybe a few of the members out there having issues with theirs fitting, will have a solution.

    Also, the sun is out today so I will be able to wash the car and snap some photos. I will not be using my SLR, but at the same time will not be using my phone so the pictures will be of medium quality. The car looks a tad bit naked without the audi rings, but no worries...I do plan on adding them. Anyways, there is a LOT to write about and I will break up each part as its own post.

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    Are you thinking about doing a CF wrap on the lower blade or the OSIR CF fog grilles as well? That would really complete the look on the front for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander1010 View Post
    Are you thinking about doing a CF wrap on the lower blade or the OSIR CF fog grilles as well? That would really complete the look on the front for you.
    I definitely want to do the CF fog grilles and I have recently started looking into the blade in CF. Both are on the chopping block for my next phase. I expect to hit phase 2 of this build in about...2 months. Until then, she will be somewhat of a sleeper.

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    she's a beaut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1_Builder View Post
    I definitely want to do the CF fog grilles and I have recently started looking into the blade in CF. Both are on the chopping block for my next phase. I expect to hit phase 2 of this build in about...2 months. Until then, she will be somewhat of a sleeper.
    Cool. Even with the CF she may still be sleepy looking on the highway. I think you'll surprise quite a few unsuspecting cars riding up beside you.

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    First Post here lol

    I've had my new Audi for a month now. Quite frantically i'm loving every minute of it. See the story here is that im coming from a pretty modified 2010 SS Camaro and 2011 zx-6r. I have been glancing on the forums for a month now ever since picking up the vehicle from the dealer and have yet to see a thread like yours. Coming from Camaro5 to this forum is a big change. I'm still looking and reading through these threads and finding vendors and dealers that sell parts for these cars. Well long story short is basically I LOVE this thread! I just sat here and read the whole thing from start to almost finish :P I have to say what you have done is pretty much the route i am going for. Only Problem is cash and the Girlfriend lol (didnt really take to modding the Camaro) I'm not the most experienced in any of this stuff, but i do love to work on cars i can tell you that. I just really can't wait for the finished photos, videos, and numbers to be posted! Really excited here.

    Anyways Thanks for a amazing thread and write up! You setup looks super clean!

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    Great progress bud...and props for the DIY.

    Did you do a baseline dyno and decide not to show the results or did I misread one of your posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoynuR View Post
    I've had my new Audi for a month now. Quite frantically i'm loving every minute of it. See the story here is that im coming from a pretty modified 2010 SS Camaro and 2011 zx-6r. I have been glancing on the forums for a month now ever since picking up the vehicle from the dealer and have yet to see a thread like yours. Coming from Camaro5 to this forum is a big change. I'm still looking and reading through these threads and finding vendors and dealers that sell parts for these cars. Well long story short is basically I LOVE this thread! I just sat here and read the whole thing from start to almost finish :P I have to say what you have done is pretty much the route i am going for. Only Problem is cash and the Girlfriend lol (didnt really take to modding the Camaro) I'm not the most experienced in any of this stuff, but i do love to work on cars i can tell you that. I just really can't wait for the finished photos, videos, and numbers to be posted! Really excited here.

    Anyways Thanks for a amazing thread and write up! You setup looks super clean!
    Thanks Noynur. I appreciate the positive feedback. The audi will never live up to the speed and performance of that kawasaki of yours (BTW, Yamaha FTW!) but I know that with the mods I am doing, she will be an absolute joy to drive. The aftermarket for our cars isn't the best, but it isn't the worst either. For the most parts, all the big performance upgrades you can buy are listed in this thread (engine wise). I am also very excited to see how much APR's numbers compare to what I am outputting considering I have a few more goodies on the car as well as going with a complete custom tune. I have a few finishing touches with carbonio intake and the radiator shroud tonight. I have the coming home unit I have to find a new home for as well as what appears to be the outside air temp sensor. I test drove the car yesterday and she drove just fine. I didn't go into boost but the sound of that new exhaust is music to my ears.

    The build was actually very straightforward and if I were to do it again, could have done it in half the time with a fraction o the headaches. So if you ever do some of these upgrades, you wont have to worry about a long drawn out complex procedure. As for the girlfriend and the money...thats an issue all in itself. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Wah View Post
    Great progress bud...and props for the DIY.

    Did you do a baseline dyno and decide not to show the results or did I misread one of your posts?
    Wah, thanks for the props and for watching the thread. Sorry to report that I did not do the baseline run. At the time I was looking at another week just to get into the dyno, and I was under the impression that I would have the time I need to complete the car so I began the modding. Of course, time began precious and I wasn't able to knock everything out in a weekend like I had originally planned. Could I have waited and got the baseline? Yes...sadly. At least know that my baseline would only be about +/-5% off from any other stock 2.0t B8 out there. With that said, it is easy to guestimate my baseline numbers based on other members who were kind enough to provide pre-tuned dyno graphs. I hate to break promises but I had to pull the trigger when I saw the opportunity, even though it was all a mirage.

    Good news is...Dyno graphs will be up tomorrow!!! Tune is still scheduled at 1400 EST. I will snap some photos and stuff during the tune.

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    What kind of tone would you try and describe the exhaust sound as? I'm really not too familar with the way these cars sound, considering my big 6.2 with headers and hi flows and x pipe was a deep roar! i just don't want something like that on a classy car. Kinda going for a louder but clean sound! i really love those exhaust tips those would be the ones i get, man your build is nice haha wish i could buy those parts and have you help install lol cause the APR dealer in Austin, i actually used for my Camaro, and lets just say they didnt do things exactly right on my exhaust.

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    I've had my APR Quads for just over 100 miles now. They aren't 100% broken in, but when they sound "right" to me, they sound like you describe. Otherwise I was looking at AWE too. Stasis was too loud for me.

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    I just drove the car home from my shop. No CEL...yet. I expect one to throw pretty soon for the O2 sensor, but am not worried about at this point. On the drive, I stayed completely out of boost and limped her home. No funny smells, no odd vacuum readings and no sputtering or issues at cruising speeds and idle. All in all, it seems to be a successful install. Now for the pictures...I was able to grab my SLR and snap a few shots but the car is still completely filthy. It pours rain every day that I even think of washing my car. Anyways, I digress. Here are some shots until she is clean. Enjoy!

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    Now, time for a product review. I will try and keep it simple and str8 forward. Lets start with aesthetics:

    Osir rear valence: It looks beautiful, fits ok. There is a lip on the top portion of it and I am sure it is installed all the way in. Other than that small issue, its gorgeous looking and easy to install. Fits in all the factory tabs and lines up perfect with the 3 screws attaching it to the gas tank. I give it a 9/10 because of the lip issue. It should be flush. There is a possibility it is my fault, but with all the tabs inserted and the screw holes aligning perfectly...I doubt its my doing.

    Osir front grille: It also looks beautiful. Fitment still had some issues. One of the threaded barrels on the bottom that attaches the splitter portion to the grille was in the wrong spot. I had to drill the splitter piece in order for it to sit flush. Next, one of the screw holes needed to be elongated to fit on the side of the grille. Also, the rings cannot clip up to the mesh. This, to me, is a serious issue. I see the piece that Osir sells to fit the rings and its crazy expensive. Lastly, if you have a coming home sensor, it will need to be relocated as well as the outside air temp sensor (I am not 100% sure that this is what it is). Due to how open the mesh design leaves the grille, you need to be clever about where you put it as to avoid zip tying it to the mesh, which I am sure would look completely ghetto and I would rip it off your car to prevent further embarrassment. Other than that, which is actually all very simple fixes...its fits great. It gets 8/10 because of the rings and modification to allow fitment.

    CF radiator shroud: This part looks amazing and fit perfect. Mounts the same as the factory shroud and also utilizes the rubber trim. I give this a 10/10. One note...the carbon fiber weave pattern DOES NOT match up to the APR Carbonio intake housing, but does match perfectly to all the OSIR pieces.

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    so...much...cf...

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    Drool.... My only thing would be to add the Audi rings back to the front, but thats just me. Nice thread!

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    On to the review of the performance parts.

    APR Quad Exhaust: The exhaust is impeccable. High quality, and EXCELLENT fitment. *****NOTE Since this thread is related to the build and I have not been able to open her up, I cannot attest to the sound yet.***** Install was very straight forward, however, the instructions were very generic. They were for the catback model and included parts I didn't need. Also, the directions left some room for error. By simply stating "torque per manufacturers recommendation" is kinda lame. At least look up the torque specs and include them in the manual. It is the simple things that turn a product from great into amazing. I would like to make it known that I am not complaining, just making simple observations. I am very happy with the exhaust so far. My one complaint is that it is not listed anywhere on their site that you need to purchase the heat shielding and exhaust hangar bracket separately from their kit. This can cost you days worth of downtime if you do not catch this in time and the parts go on order. In all honesty, this is my only real gripe. Lets be real here people, the cost is public for this exhaust and for 2300 dollars, it would be nice to get the damn heat shielding and hangar bracket. Easily overlooked...easily included by APR. One last note, the tips are individually keyed. I did not know this at first and thought APR gave me incorrect tips! lol. I finally figured it out and switched them around enough to get the slash cuts and laser etched name correct. I give this product a 10/10 for ease of installation, flawless quality and great aesthetics...even with the missing heat shield and hangar.

    APR Carbonio: I like the product, but am not happy with the fitment. I can now see why people have to go to great lengths to get this thing lined up correctly with the radiator shroud. I am a perfectionist, so this is going to take some finesse when I can get a chance. The install was very easy. Instructions were spot on and made the install a breeze. I do think that a new turbo intake pipe should have been included with the kit. Engineering would not take ages and would be an excellent touch to really complete the product. I think for the price of this product, one such pipe could be included for a very small price increase. Depending on how well I can get this to fit, I might trade this product out for the Injen piece. I had not seen that intake prior to purchasing the APR piece and with its mismatched CF cover to the rest of my CF scheme...the fitment will need to be perfect or I will ditch it. So far, I am giving this product an 7/10. The CF aesthetics part of the intake doesn't mean shit if it isn't lining up correctly.

    APR K04 upgrade: What can I say, this isn't as simple as an intake or exhaust install. You are flirting with major modification here and really need to know your way around an engine before you start pulling this PITA out. Since no company has produced an aftermarket repair manual, it makes doing this by yourself very risky. You could always access the erWin database if you need some technical data. Anyways, there is no instructions provided with the kit. After contacting APR, they sent me some illustrations and other data. It definitely was useful in prepping the turbo but not in removing it. Just prep on the turbo itself and torque specs on all parts on the turbo. Again, this was useful but deff not ideal. At one point in the manual, it asks to remove the passenger side engine mount. I would NOT recommend doing this.
    I found (and this is from what I experienced so WARNING to anyone doing this, I am not a certified Audi mechanic and what I am about to explain is not the Audi method to remove the turbocharger assembly) that the easiest and best way to get the turbo out is actually very simple. Here is what I did, first I removed the airbox. Next, I removed the splash guard and undercarriage cover and disconnected the midpipe from the downpipe. After, I drained the coolant from the vehicle. The petcock is located on the coolant line (driver side) at the bottom of the radiator. Pulling down on the petcock releases the coolant. It is pretty difficult to pull down so don't worry. Then, I removed the manifold heatshield, and the 4 lines (oil supply, oil return, coolant supply, coolant return) and removed the 2 wiring harnesses on the underside of the turbocharger. Disconnect the crankcase vent line and vacuum line and remove the turbo support bracket (2 bolts). At this point, all lines should be disconnected from the turbo and the cat is still installed. The only thing holding the turbo in place is the nuts on the manifold assembly (5 top, 4 bottom). The 5 on top are the only thing holding the turbo to the head. The bottom nuts hold a retaining plate that the manifold slides into. The easiest way to remove this is to remove the 5 nuts and their corresponding studs. By doing this, the turbo can be slid up and becomes free. This made accessing the nuts for the cat (especially the one on the bottom side facing the block) easier to remove. I removed the cat and pulled the turbocharger free of the car. One last thing...if the turbocharger is still difficult to remove, unbolt the sensors on the top of the head by the coil packs and lay them on top of the engine. BTW, I have no freakin idea wtf these sensors are for and if someone knows, I would love to hear what they are.
    To install, prep the new turbo with studs for the downpipe and install the vacuum line and new hose clamp provided by APR. Test fit all the lines in the car with the turbo before tightening anything. The coolant return line (line facing the exhaust manifold) is a cocksucker to access when installed in the car. Our K03 turbo makes placement of this line simple by giving us a threaded mounting hole for the bracket on the line, unfortunately, this mount is not present on the K04 which means it requires a test fit to make sure the line is routed correctly. After test fitting all the lines, I removed the turbo and oriented the coolant return line correctly and tightened it. Ensure you use new crush washers (supplied by APR) on each line and torque everything accordingly. You can acquire the torque spec sheets from APR or myself (PM me for them). Once the turbo has been test fit, I installed the downpipe with the turbo in the car, but with the diameter decrease on the cat and a swivel socket, this isn't totally necessary (meaning you can do this once the turbo is fully installed if you wish). After installing the cat, I slide the turbo into the retaining plates and ran the 2 coolant lines and the oil return line. I added a small amount of fresh oil to the oil supply port on the top of the turbo and connected the oil supply line. Ensure you are using the new gaskets provided by APR for the oil return line and crankcase vent line. Other than that, torque everything down and follow the reverse order of removal. MAKE SURE, you use the torque tightening sequence on the manifold nuts. Do not simply run down them one at a time and torque them down. It is done in stages and in a specific order. This ensures equal torque across all 5 nuts. Well...I am sure I missed a few things, but I covered the main items. This is a quick (ha!) write up. Overall, I give the product a 10/10 simply because this is considered a professionally installed product. The parts were great, everything fit right up and they provided all the expendables, which is nice.

    Eurocode FMIC: This thing is awesome. Perfect fitment, excellent finish, fantastic manual...a joy to install. A few of the barrel nut clamps were a PITA to get on. The one attaching the flex adapter from the turbo to the intercooler (might be different on a K03 install) required some real finesse. If you run into this problem, a nice lil trick I learned when working on aircraft is to use some safety wire and safety wire pliers. Route a strand or two from the top to the bottom of the clamp and join them between the two halves of the clamp and start spinning. It will draw the clamp in plenty enough to get the stud through to get a few threads for the self locking nut. Oh...one thing I noticed...The torque on the 6 fasteners attaching the bracket to the crash bar seemed kinda high. I never hit 18 ft-lbs as it felt a little squirrely to me. I torqued them to around 13 or so and applied a light bead of red loctite. My benchstock is getting low and I couldn't risk snapping any of the supplied fasteners. One note...the bracket is a damn work of art. Two thumbs up to the machine (and programmer who drew the cad drawing) creating that bracket, that thing is gorgeous. This product deff gets a 10/10. great job Eurocode.

    Well folks...I am sure I am missing something but this is the quick and dirty. Car is being tuned in t-minues 14.5 hours, until then, enjoy my novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozone View Post
    Drool.... My only thing would be to add the Audi rings back to the front, but thats just me. Nice thread!
    I completely agree. I plan on adding the rings back on, but have to either buy the part or figure something out...either way, they will definitely be returned to my car.

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    looking good!
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    I love this thread.

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    Just read your novel. I think the tips for the exhaust need to be raised, kinda too far down from the openings of valence.

    Everything else looks perfect, I also don't think anyone has ever done the grill, shroud, and intake all in cf before. Pretty sick. Wish apr's matched the rest

    Thanks for the write ups, I'm thinking your enthusiasm for the performance mods is going to go up drastically once you get to "open her up" haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okan509 View Post
    Just read your novel. I think the tips for the exhaust need to be raised, kinda too far down from the openings of valence.

    Everything else looks perfect, I also don't think anyone has ever done the grill, shroud, and intake all in cf before. Pretty sick. Wish apr's matched the rest

    Thanks for the write ups, I'm thinking your enthusiasm for the performance mods is going to go up drastically once you get to "open her up" haha
    Thanks for your input. I know that the left exhaust needs to be tweaked slightly to the left as it contacts the inside of the valence. As for adjusting vertically, I am not so sure that can be done. The muffler hangs on the exhaust brackets by the standard rubber hangars. I can adjust this bracket to the left and the right, but I cannot adjust up and down. Actually, I could shim it to adjust it down but at the moment, I don't have a way to adjust it upwards. I will look into this further. I don't want to machine a new bracket for a 1/4" difference as that is a LOT of work.

    thanks for the comments and stayed tuned. The best is yet to come later this afternoon.

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    I was thinking the same for my quads...that they are falling a bit too low. I'm hoping the rubber hanger that holds them is an industry standard type and I can potentially look for a shorter one. I won't do so until I get my Reiger rear valence here and fit it all up first to see if it is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1_Builder View Post
    I completely agree. I plan on adding the rings back on, but have to either buy the part or figure something out...either way, they will definitely be returned to my car.
    It's a tough situation too. The OSIR looks beautiful, but the cost is 2/3 of the grille cost and is way out of scope. However, in their defense, laying up CF in that form properly is extremely difficult and likely a bit labor intensive. I actually cut the tabs off the back of my OEM rings and used 3M automotive tape to put in on my aftermarket Honeycomb grille which ended up looking pretty good and has stuck now through multiple car washes, etc.

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    awesome grill! i have the same one! looking to add more of their products in the future
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    I have the original APR RSC B8 exhaust that I was sent shortly before the "official release". I'm not sure if the design has changed but one of my comments back to APR was to add an additional hanger to the frontside of the passenger side exhaust. Did they make that change? If not, I would consider having a new hanger welded on (similar to the extra one on driver side) to take up some of the weight. After a few weeks (without this hanger) my passenger side was drooping slightly so I had one welded on locally.....MUCH MUCH better.

    The CF shroud looks great but it annoyed me that it didn't match the Carbonio weave so I decided to pass.....one of the ONLY CF parts that I have passed on :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cory_can View Post
    I have the original APR RSC B8 exhaust that I was sent shortly before the "official release". I'm not sure if the design has changed but one of my comments back to APR was to add an additional hanger to the frontside of the passenger side exhaust. Did they make that change? If not, I would consider having a new hanger welded on (similar to the extra one on driver side) to take up some of the weight. After a few weeks (without this hanger) my passenger side was drooping slightly so I had one welded on locally.....MUCH MUCH better.

    The CF shroud looks great but it annoyed me that it didn't match the Carbonio weave so I decided to pass.....one of the ONLY CF parts that I have passed on :)
    Passenger side muffler still only has one hangar. If I get any dropping I might also remove it and get a arm welded up and add another bracket to the chassis.

    Well, I am still not happy with the fitment. On the dyno today I sat there and watched the intake pull away from the shroud on every single pass. I am not talking about a few mm's here, I am talking an inch and a half worth of separation from the shroud. I think I am going to opt for the Injen one. I plan on going Osir fog grilles anyway, which solves a lot of worries that people have with the "lack of air" behind the fog grille.

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    Ok people, I know everyone was expecting results but I regret to inform you that I have bad news. The short and sweet...my car kept sending out an overboost engine code. The odd part about all of this is that we were not in an overboost condition. Even with the boost tables tuned down to lets say....7 psi, the car was spitting a overboost fault and cutting throttle. 7 hours and no fix. I am going to call APR tomorrow morning to see if they can throw me a bone here. AFAIK, the only electrical component that was changed is the boost solenoid. The new one was attached to the K04 and we are thinking that maybe this is not working correctly with the factory ECU. This might have been solved with APR's software. Anyways, we are stuck. We weren't even able to perform one full pull on the car without getting a throttle shut off. Any suggestions? We do not think that it has to do with the install itself as every part that was touched besides the new solenoid on the K04, is mechanical. Soo...it must be programming correct? Very frustrated at this point...we are going to try a few different things tomorrow and hope for the best. I am going to ping on APR to see if they can help me at all. All else fails, I will send my ECU in to APR and get the software that I have technically already paid for. Murphy's law...I swear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1_Builder View Post
    Passenger side muffler still only has one hangar. If I get any dropping I might also remove it and get a arm welded up and add another bracket to the chassis.

    Well, I am still not happy with the fitment. On the dyno today I sat there and watched the intake pull away from the shroud on every single pass. I am not talking about a few mm's here, I am talking an inch and a half worth of separation from the shroud. I think I am going to opt for the Injen one. I plan on going Osir fog grilles anyway, which solves a lot of worries that people have with the "lack of air" behind the fog grille.
    BTW, there is another hanger thread on the passenger side under the spray lining. It's at the exact same spot as the drivers side and you just have to scrape it away.

    I was considering changing my intake for the injen as well because of fitment; although it's improved with tweaking of the piping and shroud. I'm using the Lusch CF grill and fog housings so I also have the air flow advantage(through the fog housing). Let us know if you decide to go that direction.

    Yes, programming....it was one of the major changes APR made between Stg1 and Stg2. The HFC's have less back pressure and therefore creates an overboost and throttlecut.
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    good read, can't wait to read your review on power after you get tuned

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    So I limped the car down to VolksWürks in Gainesville Fl. Got the APR tune with maps 87 91 93 and 100. Software loaded fine with no hiccups and the CEL for O2 and overboost went away. All that was left was pure driving ecstasy. It is a completely different car all together. Lets start from the top because I am scatter brained at the moment.

    The first thing I noticed was how fast the car boosted. It went from vacuum to boost in fractions of a second...and not just 1 psi people. When I stomped on the gas, a second later my boost needle was pinned at 25 psi and the car was SCREAMING. First gear in stock was always a huge disappointment for me, but with the software and all the goodies, it is very very smooth and powerful. It continues to rocket you through the RPM range until its time to shift and again delivers smooth solid power. Before I knew it I was at 65 mph in a 35 so I had to slow down a tad. The car is a pure joy to drive. I just got home about 2 hours ago and washed her up for tonight. This weekend, I will snag some nice HD video of a few pulls and grab my studio mic and get some exhaust and turbine songs for yall. Also, I will grab my Go Pro and mount it to the hood and get some nice hard pulls with the audio right by the engine bay.

    Bottom line...completely different car. I am going to get in touch with Mase tomorrow afternoon to see if I can drop by the shop and snag a few dyno pulls to see what sort of numbers I am putting down.

    On a side note, I would like to thank Jeff from VolksWürks for booking me at the last minute and give a big thanks to Mase for all the time he put in at no charge.

    This deff isn't the end of this thread people so stayed tuned for some dyno charts.

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    I'm sure you must be thrilled with the end result. Can't wait to see the dyno pulls.. Any chance of you finding a B8 S4 or new M3 in your area to compare to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmaroney View Post
    I'm sure you must be thrilled with the end result. Can't wait to see the dyno pulls.. Any chance of you finding a B8 S4 or new M3 in your area to compare to?
    I was thinking the exact same thing on the way home. I would love to ride next to an S4 to see how she compares. Maybe a post in the S4 section is required?

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    The dyno will be fun but I think the improved street feel that you've already experienced is what's important. The numbers that you see "might" appear disappointing when compared to some, but dyno results don't give you the entire picture of the vastly improved "drivability". On the complete opposite side of the spectrum some cars that dyno high don't perform on the street according to the numbers. Good job, have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cory_can View Post
    The dyno will be fun but I think the improved street feel that you've already experienced is what's important. The numbers that you see "might" appear disappointing when compared to some, but dyno results don't give you the entire picture of the vastly improved "drivability". On the complete opposite side of the spectrum some cars that dyno high don't perform on the street according to the numbers. Good job, have fun.
    Couldn't agree more. Numbers or not...its a pleasure to drive and worth all the blood sweat and hard earned cash. The numbers are just to get people an idea of what it takes to get to this point. A simple stage 1 flash and intake isn't going to net you 300hp, and this might help people understand that. Numbers are just that..numbers. You wanna feel what my numbers are like, stop by jax and lets go for a ride. numbers might seem low when posted, but its a blast!
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    this is epic so glad i stumbled on this one

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    As long as you're smiling and feel a little bit on the edge at WOT, numbers are pointless :)

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