VCDS coding of Audi Drive Select default setting

[miscio]

I have made with current meters.
Current is OK
motor cars on or off 12 volts is OK
This is a good thing?

[horchamol]

OMG please don't mix up current and voltage....

As far as the LIN bus is concerned you should know that it is a serial bus with data rates up to 19,2 kBd. A regular multimeter is not suited for measuring or displaying digital signals...

You wrote that you also had to build an adaptor in order to connect the ADS switch to J519. I mean, in your car there was already a wire connected to pin 4 of connector C of J519 before you retrofitted the switch, right? Assuming that your installation causes "trouble" now (whatever the reason may be), you should also have communication problems with the other devices conneted to the LIN bus. According to my documentation of J519 the 4th pin of connector C may be used by following devices (independent of your configuration):

Pin 4: LIN 2 (Charisma switch module -E592, air quality sensor -G238, refrigerant pressure and temperature sender -G395, garage door opener control unit -J530, front left seat ventilation control unit -J799, front right seat ventilation control unit -J800)

This means if there is a problem with your LIN bus, the other devices should generate error-messages as well or at least they should not work as expected. Did you check if there are any other error messages e.g. in ECU 8 (air condition)?

[jabicho]

well, I can tell you that some of my collegues at audisportiberica.com have tried this coding and after adaptations in channels 63-66 you can revert original coding in byte 7 and 8 to avoid "charisma " fault, it works!!

Bad news again...it doesn´t work, the fact that adaptation channels remain with "3" value even if you set bytes 7 and 8 to default led us to believe that ADS was still on, but the fact is that the car behaves as usual...we´ll keep trying to find a way to avoid this nagging fault, sorry for this

[miscio]

I did not know on this tension.
I did scan with VAG ...... no errors on climate
But every time I hear a noise coming from the climate .... is a clonc clonc it stops if I remove the loop automatically. But not always does, then conclude that the ADS would alternate running with malfunctioning climate, but it never works.
It could be video module XCARLINK that interferes on it??

[c99]

You can avoid "the Carisma error" only by adding the Carisma switch, no other way, that's it.

[c99]

I did not know on this tension.
I did scan with VAG ...... no errors on climate
But every time I hear a noise coming from the climate .... is a clonc clonc it stops if I remove the loop automatically. But not always does, then conclude that the ADS would alternate running with malfunctioning climate, but it never works.
It could be video module XCARLINK that interferes on it??

Activation of ADS has nothing to do with Climate control module.

[jabicho]

Depends on how you want to install it. You can splice all three wires there if you want. But if your going to go to the drivers side kick panel (or passenger side) for power then why not make a small harness and take all three wires there and splice at the source.

I will be showing more than one method of installation during the DIY. Which is well under way but much larger than I ever thought it would be with the wiring options. I'm not into the quick splice and run but I do try to show all options. I'm already up to 3 pages for this DIY and only a small portion is required depending on your installation method.

I have hooked my switch up on temp basis just to confirm it works and all I can say is Audi really needs to cut back the brightness on the selected option. Boy do those things throw some light.

This was with my exposure turned down two Full stops.



Oh and for those with MMI I have figured out a way that you can order just one button set instead of both saving you some money. More to come...

One of my collegues at audisportiberica.com (javiii) claims that he´s found the way for the buttons of the ADS switch to glow correctly, he´s found the coding on MODULE 9, BYTE 19.This is the way it looks like now, all ADS options glowing but the chosen one is highlighted:


And this is the result:



hope it helps, cheers

[cjc81]

Hey Guys,

My car has ADS, but on non-MMI (symphony radio). Would it make sense for me to default to "Individual", and set the rest of the settings via VAGCOM? (Since i cannot access them via the ADS MMI menu.)

Cheers.

[2005guidorosso]

Hello, someone can tell me where i can buy the switch and cover for ads retrofit???
Thanks all

[NPuter]

Hello, someone can rell me where i can buy the switch and cover for ads retrofit???
Thanks all

Is your car MMI or non MMI... Let me know, I can get the part numbers for you

[2005guidorosso]

My car is non MMI....and i don't know where buy the component..
Thanks

[FrankTheTank]

They don't normally come together. A lot of folks have Premium + specs with just the Sport Diff. For me (with a tiptronic), I quite like having the option now for improved throttle response, and shift changes/points as well as steering firmness. Fact is - this give me an option I didn't have. And it may well do the same for others...

Ok so i have a question. I have a 2011 Audi S4, premium plus with 3G Nav, no sports diff. or ADS. So is this mod of activating ADS possible on my car? Also is sports rear diff just a setting that can be activated too with the Vag-Com/VCDS codes or do i actually have to have sports rear diff hardware installed on my car? Thanks for your help on this guys.

[NPuter]

Ok so i have a question. I have a 2011 Audi S4, premium plus with 3G Nav, no sports diff. or ADS. So is this mod of activating ADS possible on my car? Also is sports rear diff just a setting that can be activated too with the Vag-Com/VCDS codes or do i actually have to have sports rear diff hardware installed on my car? Thanks for your help on this guys.

For rear diff. I believe you have to have it - it is not just a coding thing...

Things like steering and throttle can be adjusted with coding...

[FrankTheTank]

For rear diff. I believe you have to have it - it is not just a coding thing...

Things like steering and throttle can be adjusted with coding...

Gotcha, so i cant just activate the Sports rear diff. because i didnt have that option installed on my car, but i can at least activate the Audi Drive Select using the vag-com/vcds coding , correct? Thanks in advance for you reply NPuter!

[hawc1506]

Hey is there an update on this post? A DIY document perhaps? Really looking forward to this!

[NPuter]

Hey is there an update on this post? A DIY document perhaps? Really looking forward to this!

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-VAG-COM-codes

[DavidB8]

I have a DIY about 75% done. I'll complete it sooner or later. However I think between here and the other post you can probably get most of the information you need if your impatient.

[mike1983]

Hello,

Can someone tell me if I could enable ADS on my car (Audi A8 3.0 TDI, 2006, MMI 2G HIGH, NAV)?

I managed to activate in the hidden menu the option Charisma and in my MMI menu appear ADS, but is inactive (gray).

It remains to do and the other encodings, but there are too many options change and I would be very helpful guidance to those who have succeeded.

Thank you,

[EvilBunny]

ok, so i have a B8 A4 avant Sline with Nav.

when i coded the extrerior and interior lights steering went to shit. reading through here, everyone seems to want the heavier steering. i can not get channels 63-66 to work, says NA.

how can i code the steering back to stock and keep the lighting changes?? plain and straight please lol

[rlarsen]

ok, so i have a B8 A4 avant Sline with Nav.

when i coded the extrerior and interior lights steering went to shit. reading through here, everyone seems to want the heavier steering. i can not get channels 63-66 to work, says NA.

how can i code the steering back to stock and keep the lighting changes?? plain and straight please lol

Just reverse what you have coded - but keep the coding for the lighting.

If you can't remember what you have coded, then have a look in the <ROSS_TECH_INSTALL_PATH>/Logs or <ROSS_TECH_INSTALL_PATH>/Debug folder - where you'll find the old codings.

[horchamol]

Accessing channels 63 to 66 requires a "security access" - VCDS offers this functionality. Instead of clicking "Adaptation - 10" click "Security Access 16" first. You have to enter the pin which will appear when moving your mouse over the edit box. I don't know by heart, but it must be around 20113. Afterwards click "Adaptation - 10" and you'll be able to change the settings.
However, these channels will only show up when you coded the ECU accordingly. I.e. first code Drive Select and then try to access channels 63 to 66.

[Greg4os]

I am double posting this as the other thread on the subject seems dead. I have done this to my car and can change the Audi Drive Select Individual in the MMI.

I have done the coding (along with the necessary Cent Elect and Adaptation Channels):
Byte 7, bit 5. 0 > 1
Byte 8, bit1 0 > 1
Byte 8, bit 2 0 > 1
Byte 17, bit 7, 0 > 1

While the steering is noticeably stiffer under Dynamic, there is absolutely no difference to Engine / Gearbox when set to Dyamic. No sharper throttle response, nothing. Seems no one has actually got this to work with any reasonable benefit. Some say they think there might be a slight change to the engine performance, throttle response. I say "bollocks"- either there is a noticeable difference or it's imagined...

2012 Q5 Stronic 2.0T with MMI 3G, Any ideas, much appreciated!

[Frinkferta]

I had a friend activate ADS for my nav 2011 b8. When I drove off, I noticed the car was in S mode when I was in fact in D. I switched to S, car stayed in S. switched back to D, car stayed in S. switched to M, car stayed in M. Switched back to D, car was in S mode.

We must have hit a wrong button somewhere when coding. What could have caused this?

Thanks in advance!


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[ed@mtl]

I had a friend activate ADS for my nav 2011 b8. When I drove off, I noticed the car was in S mode when I was in fact in D. I switched to S, car stayed in S. switched back to D, car stayed in S. switched to M, car stayed in M. Switched back to D, car was in S mode.

We must have hit a wrong button somewhere when coding. What could have caused this?

Thanks in advance!


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It could be that you did this:

[09 - Cent Elect.]
Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Engine/Gearbox (Improved throttle response and puts tranny into "S" mode when "D" is selected).

[Gunnark100]

Finaly installed buttons as well, noticed - if i change settings in mmi, lets say comfort to dynamic the button will not change from compfort to dynamic or opposite way changing setting with button, mmi remains as it was before, is this for everybody like this?

[Gunnark100]

Finaly installed buttons as well, noticed - if i change settings in mmi, lets say comfort to dynamic the button will not change from compfort to dynamic or opposite way changing setting with button, mmi remains as it was before, is this for everybody like this?

Just ignore my question - they should not work in sync.

[rlarsen]

Just ignore my question - they should not work in sync.

Yeah, the setting in MMI is the setup of the INDIVIDUAL option on the switch (buttons)

[Gunnark100]

Yeah, the setting in MMI is the setup of the INDIVIDUAL option on the switch (buttons)

Thanks Rene, figured out after 20min play:)

[podlbo]

OK i have "STRANGE" problem vith VCDS coding of Drive select.... There is NO problem with activation of "carisma" function in hidden menu... But after i tray CODING via VCDS i dont see any ob BYTE 8 option BITS (only Bit 5)!!! I have Audi A4 2009 sedan with retrofited MMI 3g high...
At this point i manage to do this:
1. Hidden Menü -> car -> cardevicelist -> Charisma aktivieren
2. Hidden Menü -> car -> carmenuoperation -> Charisma von 0 auf 5 stellen
3. MMI reset
4. Stg 09 Zentralelektrik -> Codierung 07 -> Lange Codierung -> Byte 7, bit 5, von 0 auf 1

After this i go to Byte 8 BUT i cannot check ANY of bits (with exception of bit 5) - bits ARE NOT VISIBLE, so i cannot check them


So i dont know what is wrong, at this point i cannot finish coding of drive select ;(

[Gunnark100]

OK i have "STRANGE" problem vith VCDS coding of Drive select.... There is NO problem with activation of "carisma" function in hidden menu... But after i tray CODING via VCDS i dont see any ob BYTE 8 option BITS (only Bit 5)!!! I have Audi A4 2009 sedan with retrofited MMI 3g high...
At this point i manage to do this:
1. Hidden Menü -> car -> cardevicelist -> Charisma aktivieren
2. Hidden Menü -> car -> carmenuoperation -> Charisma von 0 auf 5 stellen
3. MMI reset
4. Stg 09 Zentralelektrik -> Codierung 07 -> Lange Codierung -> Byte 7, bit 5, von 0 auf 1

After this i go to Byte 8 BUT i cannot check ANY of bits (with exception of bit 5) - bits ARE NOT VISIBLE, so i cannot check them


So i dont know what is wrong, at this point i cannot finish coding of drive select ;(

Very strange...did you : http://www.audienthusiasts.com/Project_ADS.html

If only bit 5 is available, you can try Lcode2 from top of the window it should make available all bits, not sure if module will accept changes after maybe module is wrong - cant belive

[Gunnark100]

Enable drive select installed first!!! I did step by step by the link and all ok, 2008 avant.

[rlarsen]

OK i have "STRANGE" problem vith VCDS coding of Drive select.... There is NO problem with activation of "carisma" function in hidden menu... But after i tray CODING via VCDS i dont see any ob BYTE 8 option BITS (only Bit 5)!!! I have Audi A4 2009 sedan with retrofited MMI 3g high...
At this point i manage to do this:
1. Hidden Menü -> car -> cardevicelist -> Charisma aktivieren
2. Hidden Menü -> car -> carmenuoperation -> Charisma von 0 auf 5 stellen
3. MMI reset
4. Stg 09 Zentralelektrik -> Codierung 07 -> Lange Codierung -> Byte 7, bit 5, von 0 auf 1

After this i go to Byte 8 BUT i cannot check ANY of bits (with exception of bit 5) - bits ARE NOT VISIBLE, so i cannot check them


So i dont know what is wrong, at this point i cannot finish coding of drive select ;(

If the bit isn't available as a check box, then you need to change it manually in the binary field xx1xxxxx - after you've changed it to 1, then move the focus away from the field (eg. with the TAB-key), and close the window - as you would have done normally.

But why do you want to change bit 5 ?? - you don't have "Sports Differential" ??

[podlbo]

Yes i follow this DIY STEP by STEP (for VCDS coding part)... so i dont know where to look for the problem... Retrofit was done by my car electritian (but i give him exact same DIY manual) so i dont know if the instalation prosess was done correct. Can this be problem if installing wires???
Drive select is ENABLED and done OK via Stg 09 Zentralelektrik -> Codierung 07 -> Lange Codierung -> Byte 7, bit 5, von 0 auf 1

[podlbo]

But why do you want to change bit 5 ?? - you don't have "Sports Differential" ??

Bit 5 IS only VISIBLE bit i can check ;)... I can tray with binary field 00010110 -> this code will enable bit 1 (i have 1n3), 2 and 4?

[rlarsen]

Bit 5 IS only VISIBLE bit i can check ;)... I can tray with binary field 00010110 -> this code will enable bit 1 (i have 1n3), 2 and 4?

The binary you have is bit 1, 2 and 4

[podlbo]

OK, will tray this and i need to check wiring if it is done correct... :) Thanks

[Gunnark100]

OK, will tray this and i need to check wiring if it is done correct... :) Thanks

Wiring cant be the issue with coding, as same coding process without switch(ground,12V and linbus)-but always good to double check.

[podlbo]

OK :) Will check wiring and option to add direct binary code (i dont have VCDS so it takes some time...). Which BITS i need to enable in 6 speed manual? There are so many infos -> in guide is sugestert to enable 0,1,2,4... there are some guides theat sugesst only enable 2 and 4 (if not possible use 0 and 1).... Im thinking to use 1,2 and 4, will this be OK -> or i need to add 0?
I dont have Sports diferencial and Magnetic susspension ;)

Thanks guys

[Gunnark100]

OK :) Will check wiring and option to add direct binary code (i dont have VCDS so it takes some time...). Which BITS i need to enable in 6 speed manual? There are so many infos -> in guide is sugestert to enable 0,1,2,4... there are some guides theat sugesst only enable 2 and 4 (if not possible use 0 and 1).... Im thinking to use 1,2 and 4, will this be OK -> or i need to add 0?
I dont have Sports diferencial and Magnetic susspension ;)

Thanks guys

Enable what you have and can and want(pointless add things you do not have 3,5)...you can test :0,1,2,4...you can play with settings later via mmi anyway a bit etc... bit 0 - up to you...

Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Engine/Gearbox (This bit will also enable S mode even when D is selected For Autos- This bit was determined to be optional)
Byte 8 Bit 1 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering (This bit enables steering response control)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Engine (Reported for better throttle response)
Byte 8 Bit 4 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Steering (If equipped)

You will never need to enable the following unless you install the equipment. From Factory these will be enabled if the equipment is installed in your car.
Byte 8 Bit 3 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Suspension On MMI Menu (Magnetic Suspension)
Byte 8 Bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Sports Differential On MMI Menu (If equipped)

[podlbo]

Ok i have Servotronic (PR-1N3) -> so i will tray to enable bits 1,2,4.