(viziers's) - FWD to AWD Conversion Project

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 03:44 AM

Just as the tile states ive finally started my conversion yesterday will have some pics hopefully later this evening.....

So far ive got the rear of the car on jack stands got the exhaust off tires off, E-brake lines off, shocks disconnected sensors unhooked now i just have to try and get the brake assembly off that the hard part because the brakes have NEVER been of the car ever.... They arent exactly located in a prime spot to get at them to apply any significant force to brake them free so i sprayed them with wd40 (all i have untill i get to store for some PB Blaster) in hopes tolosen them a bit..If that doesnt work the ill just take the lines off the calipers and try to take them off when i drop the rear that way the shocks wont be in the way..

Dont say use an impact gun because i already tried that with a 1100lbs torque 1/2" gun and it didnt even budge it!!!!!

vizi

**scoobycarolan** · 05-21-2009 05:42 AM

Wow, and they didn't budge? Good luck on the conversion!

**Charles** · 05-21-2009 06:38 AM

What do you mean, your brakes? The caliper? The disc?

**IceMole** · 05-21-2009 07:09 AM

Lets see some pics!

**Slo.Mo.Shun.** · 05-21-2009 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by IceMole

Lets see some pics!

Please

**dblock110** · 05-21-2009 08:32 AM

personall, i would sell te car then buy an AWD, this is insane

**A4CE1** · 05-21-2009 08:38 AM

probably would have saved money and time by selling the fwd and buying an awd... no? good luck!

**/\G** · 05-21-2009 08:59 AM

this is the most ridicluous undertaking I have seen in a while. you have balls my friend...good luck!

**DoThisMyWay** · 05-21-2009 09:44 AM

Nice project! Been following the thread in the B6 section.

**bcramer** · 05-21-2009 09:59 AM

I respect your decision to go this route, but I think you're a fool for doing it.

The ONLY time I think FWD to AWD conversions are a cool thing, is when an AWD of the same car is not offered. Which is obviously not the case this time.

Regardless... Good luck and I hope things turn out the way you want them to.

**ZEM930** · 05-21-2009 10:12 AM

Easier to sell and buy a quattro??? Props for going the extra mile though!

**dougyfresh** · 05-21-2009 10:27 AM

I'm assuming you've been reading this?
http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259582

Good Luck! You'll be stoked once power goes to all four wheels.

**greene08** · 05-21-2009 10:51 AM

Isn't there some extra computer modules you'll need as well to update the traction control and torque split programming? This seems like a MASSIVE undertaking...

**Bllzll** · 05-21-2009 10:57 AM

props for attempting this

BUT, this is going to kill resale value. Can you imagine trying to sell this as a quattro, and then carfax and VIN number showing its a FWD. Then having to explain to the potential buyer that you retrofitted quattro... that person is most likely going to run for the hills before you can even finish explaining.

**kooltechie** · 05-21-2009 11:20 AM

you're a brave man, Viziers.
best of luck!

**Shnab** · 05-21-2009 11:41 AM

I just hope the car will be reliable after doing all this work to it

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 04:35 PM

Hey all ill have an update soon as well as let you know some of thie issues and differences ive found so far and the little mishap i had..

With pics of course.....

vizi

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bllzll

props for attempting this

BUT, this is going to kill resale value. Can you imagine trying to sell this as a quattro, and then carfax and VIN number showing its a FWD. Then having to explain to the potential buyer that you retrofitted quattro... that person is most likely going to run for the hills before you can even finish explaining.

Resale........ hell the car already has 111,000 miles on it by the time i go to sell her she will probably have close to 300,000 mlies on her.. Yea im not selling this car ever...... Ill own this car until the wheels fall of it.. Then itll be time for the duct tape and bubble gum...

And as far as sell this and buy a QT well i got a hell of a deal on some of the pieces so it made it worth it for me.. Plus i know exactly how this car has been run and what its been through because im the 1st owner of it...

vizi

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by scoobycarolan

Wow, and they didn't budge? Good luck on the conversion!

The bolts that wouldn't come off were the ones that hold the bracket to the wheel spindle i let them sit over night with the WD40 and then when i got the rear out of the car it was much easier to get at them because the shock or anything else wasn't in the way.....

vizi

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by greene08

Isn't there some extra computer modules you'll need as well to update the traction control and torque split programming? This seems like a MASSIVE undertaking...

Nope no modules QT is mechanical from what i understand... And actually this whole conversion is really easy to do.

vizi

**ed1380** · 05-21-2009 05:07 PM

1/2" impact gun pushing 1100ft/lb? you sure its not 3/4 or 1"?

good luck with the conversion.

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Shnab

I just hope the car will be reliable after doing all this work to it

It will still have its reliability when im done.. Everything gets torqued to specs it it has one...

vizi

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by dougyfresh

I'm assuming you've been reading this?
http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259582

Good Luck! You'll be stoked once power goes to all four wheels.

Yup when it all started... lol

P.S. Im still working on the pics for some reason its not letting me post them....

vizi

**Quattro** · 05-21-2009 05:33 PM

good luck, post a DIY!!! not sure how many people would attempt this!

props to you sir

**dirtybrd** · 05-21-2009 06:31 PM

Quattro is 100% mechanical. This was just done on a B6, this is the same thing. Everything is just removing FWD parts and replacing them with AWD parts.

**viziers** · 05-21-2009 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by dirtybrd

Quattro is 100% mechanical. This was just done on a B6, this is the same thing. Everything is just removing FWD parts and replacing them with AWD parts.

Exactly......

vizi

**killerb7** · 05-21-2009 08:59 PM

For sure post a DIY. Ill for sure do this.

**harryd14** · 05-21-2009 09:04 PM

this seems llike a serious project... how long do you expect it to take you? good luck with everything tho! and lets see those pic when you get them working!!!

**WayzataAudi** · 05-21-2009 09:13 PM

...you shoulda just done RWD. i dont even know that its possible but you would be prolly the only one on here running one, and itd be sick. good luck though broseff it sounds insane!

**ringofsteel** · 05-21-2009 11:57 PM

when complete I will send you a quattro badge. Congrats, and good luck! QUATTRO FTMW!

**cecaa** · 05-22-2009 01:51 AM

I don't have the courage to do this, but I admire your attitude of the doing the project.

Sure it is easier to sell fwd and buy an awd but I understand it as a passion of modifying cars, same reasoning as selling audi for honda for more power.

whatever it comes out, let us be posted!!
best of luck to you!

**minameismud** · 05-22-2009 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by dirtybrd

Quattro is 100% mechanical. This was just done on a B6, this is the same thing. Everything is just removing FWD parts and replacing them with AWD parts.

...and...turning the engine 90 degrees...

**LimiTed** · 05-22-2009 12:58 PM

wow. can i send u my quattro badge? u have balls for doing this.

**A4RingPimp** · 05-22-2009 05:30 PM

SUBSCRIBED FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please keep us updated on the progress!

U are going where none of us have gone before!

**viziers** · 05-22-2009 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by minameismud

...and...turning the engine 90 degrees...

Wrong the motor is longitudal...in the B7's

vizi

**Alkemix** · 05-22-2009 06:47 PM

you beat me to it. By almost an hour.

**viziers** · 05-23-2009 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Alkemix

you beat me to it. By almost an hour.

Lol..... i was wondering what he was talking about at first because my brain was fried out from all the work...lol

vizi

**viziers** · 05-23-2009 03:01 AM

Ok i got everything back together with pics from along the way for got to snap a few but no big deal... But to my question...

I have the STASIS QT Exhaust and when i installed it i first put the entire exhaust on with the bolts and all very losely and the tightened it from the front to the rear and i noticed the the exhaust rest very firmly on the rear crossmember bar ( That bar may not be there on a Qt if anyone wants to check for me) and the exhaust also rides against the rear CV joint gaurds. Is this common on the after market exhausts because the pipe diameter is larger than the stock one.

Where the 7" crossmember bar attaches to the body don't know it the QT has it or not but need to know.. Pic shows where it hits and there is a lot of preassure on that bar frpm the exhaust....

Here is the Exhaust hitting the CV Heat shield/Protector.....

vizi

**viziers** · 05-23-2009 04:37 AM

Here are some pics.. More to come..

My Sending unit. Can anyone tell me which connector pin is the POSITIVE side and which is the NEGATIVE side?? Or have a wiring diagram?? i gotta figure out with this harness thing for a temp gas guage until i can get the correct harness..

Pass Side Electrical Connections.

Driver Side Electrical Connections.

Electrical Connections pass through inside of car.

vizi

**minameismud** · 05-23-2009 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by viziers

Wrong the motor is longitudal...in the B7's

vizi

thought it was mounted transverse in FWDs. my bad.

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