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    Memory Seat and Mirrors DIY (Part 2)

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    Next, you need to remove the driver’s seat. Do this by removing the four 10mm 12 point bolts at the four corners of the seat tracks. See photo for reference.

    Disconnect the negative terminal from the battery at this point to safely disconnect the airbag in the next step. Use you 10mm socket for this. You don’t have to physically remove the seat from the car, just tilt it back against the rear seat bottom to get it out of the way. While the seat is tipped back, make sure you have the driver’s seat memory module (8E0 959 760) on the underside of the seat. You will see a thick wiring harness coming out of the seat bottom leading to the floor under the seat.

    Remove the plastic cover and you will see four connectors; yellow (airbag), red (seat power – the one we will be working on), green (seat heating) and black (seat belt sensors).

    Make sure you have disconnected the power at the battery, and then disconnect all four plugs. You will need to get access to the backside of the red socket (T10o) to insert the three repair wires (000 979 132). To do this you will need to release the plug socket from the black frame holding it in place. Use two jeweler’s screwdrivers or picks to release the tabs on both sides of the socket while pushing down on the socket. Push the socket down and to the side and then pull up on it so it is above the level of the carpet. Now it is in a position to work on it.

    Close up of the socket T10o, with the repair wire 000 979 132 ready to be inserted. Note purple locking tab on the socket.

    The red plug socket (T10o) has a purple locking tab that needs to be pulled to insert the repair wires. It is assumed you already have power to the seat, so I will not go into that procedure here. Cut the repair wires in half, so you have three individual wires with the pins on the end. We will be using pin positions T10o/5, T10o/6 and T10o/7. Butt splice your three 3 foot AWG 20-22 wires (some others have suggested CAT 5) to the ends of the repair wires. Insert the repair wire pins into the proper pin assignments from the backside of the socket until you hear them click in place. When you have all three in place, slide the purple locking tab back into place to lock the repair wires and re-install the red plug socket into the black frame in the floor. Plug in the four plugs from the seat harness back into the floor sockets. Run the wires you just installed in the socket under the carpet to the connection station in the driver’s A-pillar.


    You will need to move the connection station aside to get to the wire harness with the CAN High and Low wires.

    Here is where the harness is routed through the pillar. Note the green wire running to the green/black wire.

    You will now need to tap the other end of these wires into the three wires located in the driver’s side A-pillar area, behind the connection station. If you look closely at the photos below, you will see I tapped into the CAN wires on the inner side of the A-pillar and the green/black inside the bellows coupling between the outside of the A-pillar and the driver’s door itself. The wiring order is as follows; T10o/6 to orange/green (or/gn) for CAN Comfort High, T10o/7 to orange/brown (or/br) for CAN Comfort Low and T10o/5 to green/black (gn/sw). If you reach up inside the A-pillar behind the connection station, you will find a thick wiring harness. I pulled this down and carefully cut away some of the tape covering. You will find the two CAN wires here. I could not find the green/black wire in this harness, but I did find it in the bellows coupling between the door and A-pillar, so I tapped into it there.


    Location of the two CAN wires I tapped on the inside of the A-pillar. Notice how this this wire harness is. It comes out of the A-pillar and heads on up to the instrument panel. Carefully cut away some of the cloth tape wrapping to access the CAN wires here.


    Green/black wire tap in the bellows coupling.

    Not as elegant as I would have liked, but it worked! You can now re-install the seat and trim panels on the driver’s side door sill. Re-connect the negative battery terminal.

    Everything should be working at this point. It was really cool to see the mirror tilt down in reverse and the seat going back to its memorized position. You need to put the mirror switch in the right hand position for the tilt function to work. Mirrors fold with the switch in the 6 o’clock position. Please look up the seat memory programming procedure in your owner’s manual.

    Hope you have fun doing this mod now that I have done all the leg work for you.

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    Re: Memory Seat and Mirrors DIY (Part 2)

    All, I can say is Thank you very much, I've been looking for this DIY for a long time.
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    Re: Memory Seat and Mirrors DIY (Part 2)

    derleicaman, many thanks for posting this - awesome. I can now finally try to figure out how to get the mirrors to fold (the only part of your mod that I would like to do for now).

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    Re: Memory Seat and Mirrors DIY (Part 2)

    Consolidated with part 1 and posted up in the DIY section.

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    Re: Memory Seat and Mirrors DIY (Part 2)

    Great write ups!

    I have powered S4 seats already in by B6 1.8TQS and the autodimming interior mirror retrofit has been done. So, if I have the correct modules under the seat and in the doors, to get the memory to work I just need to build the harness and run the wires from the seatbase to the car wiring? Does it matter my mirrors won't be power folding ones? Presumably in the future I can just bolt these (and the new switch) on?

    Also, I am in the UK - when you say the connectors on the drivers side A pillar do you think they will be in the same physical location in my car? ie the passengar side? In the US cars is your fusebox under the dash trim on the passengar side (my drivers side?)

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    Awesome write up!!

    I'm lucky enough to have access to an S4 being stripped which has memory seats - so hoping to pull all I need from it!!

    So, I can get the door card loom...

    This connects to the door loom - should I get this also?

    The red power plug under the seats - does that cable run far? Is it easy to remove? If so I'll get that too!!

    Is that all the wiring? Seat > pillar, pillar to door plug, door plug to door, door to door card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Awesome write up!!

    I'm lucky enough to have access to an S4 being stripped which has memory seats - so hoping to pull all I need from it!!

    So, I can get the door card loom...

    This connects to the door loom - should I get this also?

    The red power plug under the seats - does that cable run far? Is it easy to remove? If so I'll get that too!!

    Is that all the wiring? Seat > pillar, pillar to door plug, door plug to door, door to door card?
    If you can get the door panel complete its plug and play. That's what I did I got a 3.0 panel and straight plug and played it.


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    Awesome!

    So you got the memory door card and did not need to replace any further wiring at all?

    I assume you had to fit the memory module under the seat? Or did you buy seats that already had the module?

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    Can anyone offer any advice on this??

    I need to know what makes the memory and non-memory seat different...

    Ok, so there is a control box on the bottom. Can I just remove the control box from a memory seat and add it to a non-memory seat??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Can anyone offer any advice on this??

    I need to know what makes the memory and non-memory seat different...

    Ok, so there is a control box on the bottom. Can I just remove the control box from a memory seat and add it to a non-memory seat??
    As for the seat I bought a seat that had the module in it and I wouldn't imagine that a power seat could just be plug in played for a memory module because there are more wires under the seat for memory module and you still have to route those pins from car plug to the can bus wires as well stated in the diy above.

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    Yes, it seems that the motors are also different between memory and non-memory seats.

    HOWEVER, I've been told that if you detach the entire lower frame including rails (held on with four bolts, around 5 electrical connectors to disconnect) from a memory seat you should be able to simply attach to the non-memory seat. That lower frame has everything attached to it - the motors and loom - everything.

    So the theory would be remove frame from memory seat, install on to non-memory seat, and done.

    Ideal solution if you have access to both the seats!

    Not so useful for retro-fitting however. But useful to know that the new seat has to be a memory seat. Either that or you get the memory module, mounting bracket, new wiring harness - and I think also new motors(??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Hi there

    Yes, it seems that the motors are also different between memory and non-memory seats.

    HOWEVER, I've been told that if you detach the entire lower frame including rails (held on with four bolts, around 5 electrical connectors to disconnect) from a memory seat you should be able to simply attach to the non-memory seat. That lower frame has everything attached to it - the motors and loom - everything.

    So the theory would be remove frame from memory seat, install on to non-memory seat, and done.

    Ideal solution if you have access to both the seats!

    Not so useful for retro-fitting however. But useful to know that the new seat has to be a memory seat. Either that or you get the memory module, mounting bracket, new wiring harness - and I think also new motors(??)
    Yea I mean I'm sure it can be done but honestly the amount of money and time to do a rail swap and such it might be more cost effective to try searching a salvage yard around your area and see if they have a seat out of a 3.0 that has all of the functions and you can just plug and play it and don't have to worry about wiring issues in the future.

    Car-part.com is a really good resource to search local yards around your area

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    It looks like I'll have access to both seats so would not cost me anything as such. So, for me, a good solution. But only as I should have access to both seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    It looks like I'll have access to both seats so would not cost me anything as such. So, for me, a good solution. But only as I should have access to both seats.
    if you have acess to both seats why wouldnt you just put the meemory seat in your car? Or if its damaged just take parts off normal power seat.

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    Different colours :o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion Heart View Post
    Different colours :o)
    I would look into swapping the covers there's a couple guides on here and it would be wayyyyy easier.

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    Really??? Easier than removing four bolts and disconnecting some electrical connectors?

    The rails frame disconnects from the seat with four bolts, and the motors and loom are all connected to this. Must be 10x easier than trying to swap leather??

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    Hi guys, picking up this old thread. I followed this guide today to fit memory seats switch to my s4 cab. Switch is in and lights up and I'm now at the point of connections under the seat. I can't for the life of me get the red plug socket out. Can anyone give a more detailed guide on how to pull it out? I've tried mini screw drivers down the sides but it doesn't seem to want to pop out. What sides is it held in by?
    Thanks anyone that can help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren.kellum View Post
    Hi guys, picking up this old thread. I followed this guide today to fit memory seats switch to my s4 cab. Switch is in and lights up and I'm now at the point of connections under the seat. I can't for the life of me get the red plug socket out. Can anyone give a more detailed guide on how to pull it out? I've tried mini screw drivers down the sides but it doesn't seem to want to pop out. What sides is it held in by?
    Thanks anyone that can help!

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    Two 10mm hold the connector bracket, remove them and you'll be able to push the connector throught it after releasing the tabs.
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    Cool thanks will check again tomorrow. Also I should have checked the switch before launching into unbolting the seat, but wondering if my s4 already has the wiring under the seat and maybe just didn't have the switch fitted. Or is it more likely that if it didn't have the switch, then it won't have the under seat wires either? Either way, will hopefully all be sorted tomorrow...

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    B6/B7 S4 have the memory seat from the factory, unsure if its the same in Europe though.

    You'll know once you look at the connector.
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    Ok so I got the socket out, mine seems to have pins in 5 6 and 7 already. So in theory that should then? Noticed that pin 5 is a thicker brown wire pin. There isn't mention in this diy to having to use a bigger repair wire for 5 so could something be different? Although looking at the diy photo the bigger pin does seem to show. My plug in photo below

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren.kellum View Post
    Ok so I got the socket out, mine seems to have pins in 5 6 and 7 already. So in theory that should then? Noticed that pin 5 is a thicker brown wire pin. There isn't mention in this diy to having to use a bigger repair wire for 5 so could something be different? Although looking at the diy photo the bigger pin does seem to show. My plug in photo below

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    The pin listed in the DIY you're following as a mistake, the pin listed as 5 in your DIY should be 10.

    Check here, I posted the correction

    But you seem to be pre-wired for memory seats.
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    Ah yes sorry thanks. Well I've put everything together again since it seems I have the wiring under the seat and all I have is the stop light showing power to the switch, but it doesn't seem to work. I've connected the switch to the regulator using repair wires as per the diy and tapped the 2 wires to the door lock. Is there anything else that might be a reason why it's not working? I have power fold mirrors too.

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    Ok, I just bought a set of S4 Recaro Seats and there is no control module under the seats. I thought all S4 Recaro a have the control modules installed. I could buy a control module, but I have absolutely no idea how to wire it in. I don't even know if it can be installed. I'm so disappointed. My project consists in retrofitting all possible options to my B6. This summer I managed to buy the seats and the solar panel sunroof...

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