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    The Health Benefits of Carbon-Ceramic Brakes?!?

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    And it's NOT just the fact that better brakes save lives via shorter stopping distances. It appears that particulate matter from brake pads can negatively impact health. CCBs aren't perfect, but at this point in time they're better than standard brakes: https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2...emissions.page

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    Interesting that they studied brake pad composition. The majority of brake dust is from the rotors.

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    Was this an ingenious way to justify CCB's? - I'm 100% believer.

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    Interesting study. It makes me wonder about the effects of multiple days at the track, both inside the car with open windows (and surrounded by cars at times doing heavy braking), plus being in the paddock - not to mention jumping out of the car to check tire pressures before they cool (and sometimes getting in close proximity to hot brakes).

    As far as health benefits, for my husband a major benefit is less strain on his (already bad) back due to reduced need to wash wheels. Overall less bending, less washing, easier maintenance (which for him is a real benefit).

    Also, when washing a dirty car from the track with filthy (steel) brakes, there is brake dust deposited on the concrete driveway. After the car wash he spends time rinsing the driveway to minimize corrosive effects and staining.

    If it’s not one thing…it’s another. I LOVE CCB for the superb slowing/stopping power and the super clean wheels, and as a result a cleaner car
    2024 RS6 Performance: Nardo - CCB

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGarageQueen View Post
    Interesting study. It makes me wonder about the effects of multiple days at the track, both inside the car with open windows (and surrounded by cars at times doing heavy braking), plus being in the paddock - not to mention jumping out of the car to check tire pressures before they cool (and sometimes getting in close proximity to hot brakes).

    As far as health benefits, for my husband a major benefit is less strain on his (already bad) back due to reduced need to wash wheels. Overall less bending, less washing, easier maintenance (which for him is a real benefit).

    Also, when washing a dirty car from the track with filthy (steel) brakes, there is brake dust deposited on the concrete driveway. After the car wash he spends time rinsing the driveway to minimize corrosive effects and staining.

    If it’s not one thing…it’s another. I LOVE CCB for the superb slowing/stopping power and the super clean wheels, and as a result a cleaner car
    Saving more than 75 lbs of unsprung mass is my favorite part of the CCBs, that right there soothes the back as the ride is much improved. It works out to 30lbs per corner when combined with the performance wheels. Glides so much smoother than an X5M, or even E63S wagon. Rotors lasting 5x (unless tracking) is another boon. The brake dust and looks are just the icing on top.
    '25 RS6 performance, Sebring Black/Cognac, CCBs
    '18 GT3 6MT, GT Silver/Black, CCBs
    '10 Land Cruiser, Super White/Beige
    '06 M3 6MT, Interlagos Blue/Black
    '06 F-350, White/Grey, 6.0 4x4 RCLB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickos1 View Post
    Saving more than 75 lbs of unsprung mass is my favorite part of the CCBs, that right there soothes the back as the ride is much improved. It works out to 30lbs per corner when combined with the performance wheels. Glides so much smoother than an X5M, or even E63S wagon. Rotors lasting 5x (unless tracking) is another boon. The brake dust and looks are just the icing on top.
    I would be very curious to know the difference in say 0-60 and 100-0 CCB vs Steel. Theoretically the car should perform like it's 500# lighter or more as all that mass is spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickos1 View Post
    Saving more than 75 lbs of unsprung mass is my favorite part of the CCBs, that right there soothes the back as the ride is much improved. It works out to 30lbs per corner when combined with the performance wheels. Glides so much smoother than an X5M, or even E63S wagon. Rotors lasting 5x (unless tracking) is another boon. The brake dust and looks are just the icing on top.
    I completely agree! I’m far less sensitive to the ride than hubby, but you’re right about the benefits.

    We test drove an E63AMG and it rode like a buckboard! We cut our drive short. Couldn’t wait to get out of it. It was a rather big let-down as it was a very cool car (in theory). This was several years ago and maybe they are improved, but we’re not motivated to find out.
    2024 RS6 Performance: Nardo - CCB

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    Lest we forget the included 190mph limiter w/CCBs too ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickos1 View Post
    Lest we forget the included 190mph limiter w/CCBs too ;-)
    I have not gone 190mph... YET. 163 was fine though. I had a 2024 ordered, passed on it the day it showed up to order a 2025 with the brakes. I didn't expect there to be a 2025.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickos1 View Post
    Lest we forget the included 190mph limiter w/CCBs too ;-)
    Though there's nowhere I can drive where I might come close, I have to admit it's fun to watch people's eyes bug out when I casually mention that my "station wagon" goes to 190! I didn't buy this car with track days in mind as I already have a track car -- but I do wonder what I could get the RS6 up to on the long back stretch at COTA. I could get to 160 in my 2014 Z/28, before deploying the anchors, but I'm guessing the RS6 might get to 170mph. It would be slower out of T11, but those turbos would probably make it pull harder past 100mph...

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    [filed under: How I justify expensive CCBs to my spouse]

    HA!!!!

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    I actually measured my GFs car then the RS6 to show her I can fit our 320# worth of dogs in it.

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