Stage 3 here we COME!!!

[Dmoore016]

Here is the start to my first allroad build. Stage 3, 6 speed swap here we come!!!




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[ShelbyM3]

What a familiar sight! Welcome and congratulations! Love to see an Allroad 01E being used for your swap, too! Look forward to seeing your build.


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[Audibot]

Good to see another 6-speed swap on here. Best of success!

[allroadc5]

Here is the start to my first allroad build. Stage 3, 6 speed swap here we come!!!




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We all gonna be twins . Best of luck and congrats man


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[jbain2]

Nice! Good luck!


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[Dmoore016]

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[Dmoore016]

Here is its twin . The power of Dinsdale!!!!


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[allroadc5]

Here is its twin . The power of Dinsdale!!!!


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Oh damn you have two?! Nice work. Do you know who is tuning it yet?

[ShelbyM3]

Here is its twin . The power of Dinsdale!!!!


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Is that two-tone or the lighting? Wait, you have 2 Allroads?


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[Dmoore016]

Is that two-tone or the lighting? Wait, you have 2 Allroads?


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It is my Father in laws stage 3 car. It is wrapped in 3M DI-NOC wood grain. It’s a sweet car . He is the Mistro!!!!


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[Dmoore016]

Oh damn you have two?! Nice work. Do you know who is tuning it yet?

Yes!!! Stuklr


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[Audibot]

Aaron a cool dude to work with, at least when I went Stage 1 on my first allroad back in 2016.

[jbain2]

Yes!!! Stuklr


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He did my stage 3 allroad a couple of years ago. Great to work with.


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[allroadc5]

Yes!!! Stuklr


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Awesome, keep us updated. What are tune plans. 93? e85? I’m hearing a lot of positive about stuklr, seems like a great choice.


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[Dmoore016]

Will run 91/93


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[Dmoore016]

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[allroadc5]

Will run 91/93


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Nice! That dashboard is always a wonder to work under .


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[Dinsdale]

Nice! That dashboard is always a wonder to work under .


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It keeps me young and hating progressive lenses!

[allroadc5]

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[Dmoore016]

The findings of the teardown. When I purchased this car I was told the top end just had a fresh reseal and the timing belt and water pump was replaced not long ago. We found different !!!! Stock water pump and a barely tensioned belt !!! And leaky Mcleaks all over. Pretty bad when people are not honest !!!! Well onward and upward fresh parts it is!!!





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[Dmoore016]

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[Audibot]

Jeez! That reminds me of the water pump job on my RS. It had a sticker it was changed at 95k by a "reputable shop". At this point, it was leaking, and I was pressed for time, so sent it to the shop. All the bolts were way over-torqued and every component was literally no name. No branding, no scratched out rings, nothing. They had to use an induction heating tool on the bolts and even that took a lot of time to slowly work to get them loose without snapping. And the leak actually was coming from the freeze plug of all places.

Told the previous owner and he was shocked because it was not an insignificant amount of money he paid.

[ShelbyM3]

Dang man, that looks pretty bad for the song they told you. Maybe they got taken for a ride themselves, but it still sucks to find all of that. You’ve got a lot of work and elbow grease ahead of you.

This kinda just gave me PTSD.


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[Dmoore016]

Dang man, that looks pretty bad for the song they told you. Maybe they got taken for a ride themselves, but it still sucks to find all of that. You’ve got a lot of work and elbow grease ahead of you.

This kinda just gave me PTSD.


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Little bit of toothbrush scrubbing once we drop the sub frame down and she will be good as new , just wish he would have been honest and I would have had all these parts here before hand because it’s 20 years old . But nothing but a steps for a couple steppes
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[Dmoore016]

Where can I find an accurate wiring diagram for 6speed swap clutch pedal/switches?


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[jbain2]

Where can I find an accurate wiring diagram for 6speed swap clutch pedal/switches?


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Shoot me a PM. I can email you some stuff.


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[Dmoore016]

Sent


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[Dmoore016]

Got the pedals in


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[ShelbyM3]

Got the pedals in


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Did you have a hard time sourcing a clutch switch? And did you get an early pedal box or late pedal box?


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[Audibot]

Interested in how you did the wiring too. My 05 Allroad is a swap supposedly done by audis4parts, but cruise control does not work. It thinks the clutch is forever engaged in that respect. I have not done much digging outside of removing the switch to verify it's not bad via multimeter.

[Blacka1vw]

If it’s stuck switch or wired in a way that it thinks its pedal depressed always it should start without pushing the clutch. There is also a check in vcds to see the pedal status.

[Dinsdale]

Did you have a hard time sourcing a clutch switch? And did you get an early pedal box or late pedal box?


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Early pedal box. Swap kit came with both clutch switches and brake light switch with pigtails.

[ShelbyM3]

Early pedal box. Swap kit came with both clutch switches and brake light switch with pigtails.

Nice! I have a buddy who just flipped an 03 and the late style pedal was a PIA, he put 5 masters in it, and finally swapped out to an early B5 pedal.

AudiS4Parts.com for the swap?


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[Dinsdale]

Nice! I have a buddy who just flipped an 03 and the late style pedal was a PIA, he put 5 masters in it, and finally swapped out to an early B5 pedal.

AudiS4Parts.com for the swap?


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Audizine member provided this kit! I did use a AudiS4Parts.com swap kit when I built my allroad. Phil was very helpful answering many questions thru out the build process. I'm very happy with it after 2 years and about 10k miles.

[Audibot]

If it’s stuck switch or wired in a way that it thinks its pedal depressed always it should start without pushing the clutch. There is also a check in vcds to see the pedal status.

Car does indeed start without the clutch depressed. I did check with VCDS to see what happens when I press the clutch, and it's at that point the values go to 0, telling it the clutch isn't pressed. Something's backwards. Here's the setup:




I've removed the lower switch and tested that one via multimeter, and it is good. The upper one I have not touched, and hence I was interested in the wiring.

Sorry OP if I'm derailing your thread.

[Dinsdale]

Car does indeed start without the clutch depressed. I did check with VCDS to see what happens when I press the clutch, and it's at that point the values go to 0, telling it the clutch isn't pressed. Something's backwards. Here's the setup:




I've removed the lower switch and tested that one via multimeter, and it is good. The upper one I have not touched, and hence I was interested in the wiring.

Sorry OP if I'm derailing your thread.

No worries, we're here to build fast cars and share the information.
In your pic it looks like 1 wire on the clutch position switch is connected to 12v on the brake switch. That wire should connect to ground not 12v.
The clutch switch with the red plug is the clutch position switch for the starter interlock relay. It has 2 wires. 1 wire connects to ground. The other wire connects to the brown/white wire on J207 the starter interlock relay. The relay is in position #4 on the Fold Relay Panel buried behind the Micro Central Electric Panel under the dash. It's a pain to get too.
The white switch is the cruise control switch. It also has 2 wires. 1 wire connects to pin #39 on the ECU the other wire connects to a switched 12v source. I just ran a short jumper over to white wire on the brake light switch for the switched 12v source.
Cheers mate

[Audibot]

No worries, we're here to build fast cars and share the information.
In your pic it looks like 1 wire on the clutch position switch is connected to 12v on the brake switch. That wire should connect to ground not 12v.
The clutch switch with the red plug is the clutch position switch for the starter interlock relay. It has 2 wires. 1 wire connects to ground. The other wire connects to the brown/white wire on J207 the starter interlock relay. The relay is in position #4 on the Fold Relay Panel buried behind the Micro Central Electric Panel under the dash. It's a pain to get too.
The white switch is the cruise control switch. It also has 2 wires. 1 wire connects to pin #39 on the ECU the other wire connects to a switched 12v source. I just ran a short jumper over to white wire on the brake light switch for the switched 12v source.
Cheers mate

Thanks! Appreciate the explanation! I agree--it looks like it's going to that white wire. Different (better?) view:




Looks like I will tackle this when I pull the uprights to do the wheel bearings. Trying to wrap up work on enough of my garage to get cars back in.

[Dmoore016]

Tha mad man Dinsdale is going to town motor out and on to the next phase!!!


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[Dmoore016]

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[Audibot]

Nice!